怎么估算 Deferral Admission 概率

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楼主 (文学峸)

EA中被H、Y、P、S、M给Defer了,那么在RD阶段被录取的概率有多高呢?

H、P和M基本上 defer 了大部分的EA,那这些Deferral在RD阶段的概率就不高。

S和Y的deferral,只占极少部分的EA,这两家的Deferral在RD阶段的概率就很高。

但是,低到底是多低,高又是多高,今天教你一个估算方法,以后就不用盲目了。

那些做惯了多年Counselor、Consultant的,除了真的有AO内线的,谁也搞不清这个概率。那么从今往后,咱就把他们都辞了算了。

我没有内线,但我算得出今年S家Deferral Admission概率 87%,Y家是60%,H家只有18%,M家最惨才8%。Williams的Defferal很少,录取概率几乎100%。

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圣诞快乐!
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greenleaf304
UPenn 呢?
贾平凸
66%
p
piglet12
那 杜克呢?
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umccgs
今年Y deferred 20%的EA,后面录取率还有60%,说明他们的录取率有12%吗?
贾平凸
60%
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20% EA are deferred, not 30%
贾平凸
Where did you get 18%?

60% of EA deferrals to RD will end up admitted in RD. This is a conditional probability.

加兰
请问Rice的是ed,也有这个deferal admission 吗
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randomness
好奇你这是怎么算出来的。这数据的确没地方去找。不过能拿到defer少的学校的defer的学生,最后都能进个不错的学校
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umccgs
Yale RD的录取率是3.3%,deferred会有12%吗?所以deferred还是有优势的?
贾平凸
No enough info to assess Rice
贾平凸
你算是问到点子上了。

关键在回答三个问题:1)how many deferrals from EA/ED;2)how many acceptable applicants in RD;and 3) how many to offer in RD.

1)用公布的或者已知的或者谣传的 Deferral Rate

2)用RD admission rate来估算RD新申请里的合格数量(想想为什么这样做其实很合理)

3)用RD offer数量每年都公布,基本差不多。

早春二月2
愿闻其详????
贾平凸
Yale deferral admission probability = 60%
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https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/znjy/6594006.html
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pennycomp
如果notre Dame 的 defteral rate 是16% ., Defer 了是不是大概率会进了?
宝马奔驰
先问这个问题,被defer到RD的,会被waitlist吗?怎么估算?waitlist之后,怎么估算被捞起概率?

defer-to-waitlist捞起率和RD-waitlist捞起率是一样的吗?

常来客
圣诞快乐!西北defer能录的概率呢?
成功鼠
CMU 呢?
专业潜水妈
我们ED U Pen 被defer, 我看U Penn 没有发表数据defer 的percentage 到底是多少。
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k-18
Deferred: 1566. Assuming 60% get admitted, that's1096

Assuming RD population is 44925 (projected from last year). RD admits = 2275(last year) - 709 (EA) - 1096 = 470.

470 /44925 = 1%. This is unlikely low.

If we assume 30% deferred are admitted, then 30% * 1566 = 548.

Assuming RD population is 44925 (projected from last year). then RD admits = 2275(last year) - 709 (EA) - 548= 1018.

1018 /44925 = 2.3%. This feels more reasonable.

But all things considered, I think only 20-25% deferred will be admitted.

 

Even simpler calculation,

20% * 60% = 12%, add that to EA admits of 9%, we got 21% total for EA pool. That's highly unlikely when the overall pool has <5% chance.

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ND Deferral Admission Probability = 39%
贾平凸
您这个问题也很好

但这一帖还解决不了您这个问题,以后再开贴解决WL Admission Rate的估算。

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NU Deferral Admission Probability = 70%
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IDK
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66%
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umccgs
60%*%20%=12%
贾平凸
Good thought

But H RD admission class 2027 is 2.5%. Do you think RD applicants can share this average rate in RD round? I think those applied in RD should have a much lower percentage of admitable candidates than the average RD admission rate. To say it is 1.5% is very reasonable.

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k-18
I can't find a link for the number 2.5%. This is the key
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quantnj
建议你干脆列个表T20,30的Defer Admission Rate.
贾平凸
So I told you it is 2.5%, this can be the key too
贾平凸
不着急,会开的。数据都是攒的,攒来不易啊
z
zhudi
请问布朗呢?谢谢!
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greenleaf304
defer percentage 不是66%
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k-18
Then it is good news for the deferred

even though it suggests the rate of 30%, per my original calculation. Perhaps 60% for the S deferred

专业潜水妈
Defer的那封email 写了,去年被defer的人, 10%被录取
g
greenleaf304
deferred 的66%被录取吧?
美丽森
请问Y和S的数据是怎么估算得出的?S是不是基本不公布数据的?
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flyhigh135
M家自己公布的去年deferral admission rate 是1.8%, 今年会提高到8%?
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youtub
不可能一下子提高这么多。他估算的每个学校的推迟录取率都高得离谱。
专业潜水妈
Penn 发了一封deferred FAQ 的email, 清楚写了 10%。怎么可能66%那么高。
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youtub
根据MIT公布的数据计算:去年推迟录取率1.8%,RD录取率3%(不包含推迟者),早申有66%被推迟。推迟录取率低于RD
如切如磋
芝大 EA defer 呢?
贾平凸
您受累,贴出来看看
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您受累,贴出来看看
贾平凸
您受累,贴出来看看
贾平凸
55%
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我在网上趴多年,连续关注,攒的
贾平凸
你说的这是Class 2026,前年,不是去年。我估算的是今年。

“Class 2026 (2021-22申请年度)EA 14781, admit 697, defer 9488,deferral admission 176 (1.8%)”

以上是College Essay Guy 说的关于前年的数字。不是去年class 2027。MIT并未公布这个。这1.8%,是他根据下面这个数据估算而已。

 

而MIT公布的,是下面这个Class 2025的Ella T '25在admission blog里说的数据:

August 26th, 2021

Once I got to MIT, I met more people who were deferred. Even though there were 10,673 applicants who were deferred, only 194 were accepted. That's 1.8%. I've heard a lot of things about this. Some said that we were the luckiest at MIT. Some said that we were the worst at MIT. I tried to embrace both. Now, I don't think either are true.

贾平凸
如果我的估算% 在low end,会自动调高一点,毕竟不能0;如果算出来的high end,会自动压低,毕竟不能100
贾平凸
芝大数字最难搞。我只能说defer是political考量,admission%很低。
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youtub
MIT的数据是2023年class2027的录取情况,不是前年的。看来数据搜集的功夫不到家。
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youtub
谢谢您拿出真实数据,也相信您的数据来源。他的估算高的离谱,也没有搜集到真实有用的数据。
贾平凸
谢谢分享,2027数据有链接可分享吗?
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oops_yz
This is from Penn website, read NO. 5
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youtub
当然有可靠来源,你也可以自己找到的
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DukeAB
什么算法啊 :)牛!
贾平凸
Thanks a lot!
贾平凸
我找不到才找你要的啊,来向楼上oop__sy学习一下呗
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xzmpc
是不是理解错了! 应该是在所有被录取的学生里, 有10%曾经在EA轮被defer过的意思吧
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BlueJacket
我在网上查的, S deferrd 往年录取率最高是25% 左右, 怎么今年能到87呢。
专业潜水妈
这里,明确写了去年的数据

专业潜水妈
我刚把那封信的截屏贴在前面
晓楠22
贾平凸
分享一下链接
贾平凸
你娃才牛呢!
衡芷
Yale EA deferred 20% x admitted 17% = Yale RD的录取率3.3%

Yale EA deferred 20%  x admitted 17% = Yale RD的录取率3.3%

是不是可以这样理解?大概EA deferred的学生中有17%左右在RA录取?