At least 1,400 US-based ethnic Chinese scientists exited American institutions for mainland China, study reveals
At least 1,400 US-based ethnic Chinese scientists switched their affiliation last year from American to Chinese institutions, according to a joint report by academics from Harvard, Princeton and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
The high number illustrates a “chilling effect” resulting from US government policies deterring research and academic activity by scientists of Chinese descent and suggests American research could suffer, said the Asian American Scholar Forum, an advocacy group that published the findings.
根據普林斯頓大學、哈佛大學和麻省理工學院的研究人員收集的數據,2021年,有1,400多名在美國接受培訓的中國科學家放棄了在美國學術單位或企業的工作,轉而回到中國,該人數比前一年增加22%。倡導組織亞裔美國學者論壇(Asian American Scholar Forum)將於周五公布這些數據,其依據是學術期刊上作者姓名下地址的變化。
There were 77 cases and more than 150 defendants prosecuted under the China Initiative over three years, according to MIT Technology Review’s analysis in December 2021.
The FBI said in January some 2,000 investigations focused on the Chinese government stealing information and technology, but it did not specify how many of these came under the China Initiative.
Meanwhile, US universities appeared to have reacted differently when their employees were indicted, with some quickly firing professors and distancing themselves, while others openly supported their staff during the prosecutions.
At least 1,400 US-based ethnic Chinese scientists switched their affiliation last year from American to Chinese institutions, according to a joint report by academics from Harvard, Princeton and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
The high number illustrates a “chilling effect” resulting from US government policies deterring research and academic activity by scientists of Chinese descent and suggests American research could suffer, said the Asian American Scholar Forum, an advocacy group that published the findings.
https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2022/10/22/at-least-1400-us-based-ethnic-chinese-scientists-exited-american-institutions-for-mainland-china-study-reveals
越來越多的華裔科學家和工程師放棄了美國頂級大學的終身職位,前往中國或其他地方,這一現象表明美國對這個推動創新的群體的吸引力正在減弱。
許多學者所稱的日益敵對的政治和種族環境是導致這一趨勢的原因之一,該趨勢已促使拜登政府與華裔學者合作,以解決後者的關切。
根據普林斯頓大學、哈佛大學和麻省理工學院的研究人員收集的數據,2021年,有1,400多名在美國接受培訓的中國科學家放棄了在美國學術單位或企業的工作,轉而回到中國,該人數比前一年增加22%。倡導組織亞裔美國學者論壇(Asian American Scholar Forum)將於周五公布這些數據,其依據是學術期刊上作者姓名下地址的變化。
https://cn.wsj.com/articles/%E7%BE%8E%E4%B8%AD%E9%97%9C%E4%BF%82%E7%B7%8A%E5%BC%B5%E4%BF%83%E4%BD%BF%E8%8F%AF%E8%A3%94%E7%A7%91%E5%AD%B8%E5%AE%B6%E9%9B%A2%E9%96%8B%E7%BE%8E%E5%9C%8B%E5%A4%A7%E5%AD%B8-%E5%9B%9E%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%AD%E5%9C%8B-121663889106
我交情比较深的朋友多年前回去的有两个,
都是绿卡也不要的(从来没想入过籍)。共同特点是:
有老婆,没孩子。。
每个人有自己的选择,不用广而告之。
还有以前回去,现在又回来的。孩子大了,回美上高中/大学。
还有的生3娃,说要不然白来美国了。你品品就知道了。
其实,有点文化的人,不至于那么俗气。
There were 77 cases and more than 150 defendants prosecuted under the China Initiative over three years, according to MIT Technology Review’s analysis in December 2021.
The FBI said in January some 2,000 investigations focused on the Chinese government stealing information and technology, but it did not specify how many of these came under the China Initiative.
Meanwhile, US universities appeared to have reacted differently when their employees were indicted, with some quickly firing professors and distancing themselves, while others openly supported their staff during the prosecutions.
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人穷的时候这样做的不少吧?读物理博士有TA/RA,用CS master 找个高薪的工作。
通过N个代理公司申请H1。印度人这么做的不少吧?
容易,或相对容易地晋升,少了很多在美国作为华人的劣势,多了很多优势,当然不是说在大陆就没有压力,比如很多人说的要有关系,但红二代三代从事技术职场的应该不多,更多是和他们一起合作,不像美国,任何一个人都可能利用某种软优势爬到华人上面理所当然地当老板,华人在其它族裔眼里,基本还是被定义为适合打工抬轿的阶层。
应该说,美国对科技人员总体还是不错,利用美国的富裕给了科技人员良好的生活,如果没有太大的雄心壮志,在美国满足于打工,过过小康日子,还是很不错的,对美国应该感谢,但对有更大雄心壮志的人才来说,可能是不会满足于,只当个科学家,教授或工程师的,毕竟,他们还想更上一层楼,再说社会还是靠他们在推动进步,有需要他们的地方,更适合他们的地方,他们肯定是会去的,全球高层人才基本都是这个思路,不仅仅是华人。
LP支持,因为想回去照顾父母
他是T25 tenured professor
一个14年前回国创业,携全家,娃长大后回美国读的大学。
https://www.tradersmagazine.com/departments/buyside/young-guns-hit-the-trading-floor/
与其蹲在美国,心里不爽,双重效忠,不如一走了之,再不回头。
那些以”身在曹营心在汉“的自我安慰,但是无法面对子女解释得清楚为啥自己做两面人,当面说谎而自我高尚,却又要教孩子不要说谎。越解释越是西瓜皮擦屁股-越擦越黏糊。
中国有句俗语:死了张屠户,不吃混毛猪。这句俗语,毛泽东用过,今天不妨用在这些逃跑的人们身上。
只是,这些人走后,留下华人不可信任的一地鸡毛,把后世华人子弟的道路,弄得坎坷不平。
其他族裔的人不是傻瓜,本来就是竞争激烈的机会和职位,嘴巴不说不等于遇事不给华人子弟添个堵,打个坝。
失去信任和credit,在美国是个很严重的事。
就此而言,这些人一定会被华人子弟诟病,甚至他们自己的儿女们也会不肖与之为伍。