University of Pennsylvania, Graduate Group in Computer and Information Sciences, founded in 1959 in the Electrical Engineering Department: Initial Ph.D. graduate, Richard Wexelblat in December 1965. The Computer and Information Sciences Department started by 1972. Princeton University's Digital Systems program was founded in the late 1950s or early 1960s in the Electrical Engineering Department. I did not determine an initial graduate which might be in 1960 or 1961. A joint Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Department started in the mid 1970s, and the current Computer Science Department began in 1985. Purdue University, Department of Computer Sciences, October 1962, was the first Computer Science Department in the United States: Karl Usow, June 1966. University of Wisconsin - Madison, Computer Sciences Department, July 1964: Sister Mary Kenneth Keller, June 1965. University of North Carolina, Information Sciences Department, July 1964: Paul Oliver and Jan Prokop, May 1969. University of Virginia, Applied Mathematics and Computer Science Department, November 1964: William Wulf, June 1968. The current Computer Science Department dates to a 1986 separation. University of Michigan. Two entries: Communication Sciences Graduate Program, 1957: John Holland, 1959. Communication Sciences Department, 1964, renamed Computer and Communication Sciences Department, 1967. I discovered no graduates of the departments to mention. The current Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Department is a 1984 merger of Electrical and Computer Engineering with Computer and Communication Sciences. University of Illinois. Computer Science Department started 1964 and added graduate degrees 1966. I discovered no graduates to mention. Stanford University, Computer Science Department, January 1965: William McKeeman and Raj Reddy, 1966. Carnegie Mellon University. Two entries: Computer Science Department, July 1965: Renato Iturriaga and Thomas Standish III, 1967. The Systems and Communications Sciences interdisciplinary program, 1961: Jerome Feldman and Ralph London, June 1964, both through Mathematics. Cornell University, Computer Science Department, 1965: Joel Sturman, 1966. University of Iowa, Computer Science Department, 1965: Morteza Rahimi, December 1968. University of Utah, Computer Science Department, 1965: Charles Carr, June 1969. Washington University in St. Louis, Applied Mathematics and Computer Science Department, 1965: Irving Tang, June 1965.
https://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2022/02/13/11290610.html
前十名专业的平均年薪略高于68000美元,其中计算机工程以74000美元的年薪排名第一,其余依次为:化学工程(70000美元)、航空航天科学(70000美元)、电气工程(70000美元)、计算机科学(70000美元)、工业工程(69000美元)、机械工程(68000美元)、杂项工程(65000美元)、土木工程(63000美元)、通用工程(62000美元)。

另一方面,在五年后薪资排名垫底的十个专业大多是文科专业,这些专业毕业后的年薪不到4万美元。某些情况下,排名较低的专业的收入几乎不到收入最高专业的一半。
排名最末的专业是家庭与消费科学。年收入仅为32000美元,不及大部分收入最高专业前十名的一半。其余从低到高依次为:通用社会科学(34000美元)、表演艺术(34000美元)、社会服务(35000美元)、人类学(36000美元)、儿童早期教育(36000美元)、神学和宗教(36600美元)、心理学(37000美元)、通识教育(37400美元)、外语(38000美元)、英语语言(38000美元)、杂项生物科学(38000美元)、休闲和接待(38000美元)、纯美术(38000美元)。

不过这两年我听到的CS出来的基本起薪都在10万以上。
当然那些底部专业学校也不care也开着因为有钱人家就需要这些知识,他们不需要为五斗米折腰。但是对这些需要为五斗米折腰的老中拼命追藤除了老中的面子还是面子。。。
早好几年前,第一位的CE新毕业的就10W了,别的还没算。我知道的就有三个,藤校毕业去西岸。今年的,CE,刚毕业,基本工资10W以上高高的,别的还没算,名校CS毕业去西岸。现在的二代40W真不是梦,而且他们是真喜欢自己的专业。
还没有毕业工作还只是intern,吹的或被吹的都是藤赚多少多少眼花缭乱。
高科技股票一跌那酸的呀 希望人家一跌到底,人家的RSU泡汤。自己都不懂RSU是啥,也不知道股票跌正是拿RSU的真正赚钱的机会。。。笑话。
我们也是申请到藤后仔细研究后放弃的。不必酸藤或anti藤。只说事实。
前两年的紫檀藤迷家长眼里只有藤条,砸锅卖铁,弯道超车都要爬藤。哪怕考古专业也在所不惜。
那时候集体嘲笑旗舰州大和蓝翔CS。现在只要是CS就是CC也要进。
从一个极端奔向另一个极端
FB和amazon两家的package比其他好,可是我知道的好几个都同时拿到了offer,但宁愿去pay的比他两家低很多的M或G,我问为什么,孩子们回答,公司文化不好。
不然名利双收多好
us news 的排名广告 已经逐步把藤的工程往上提,就像十几年前us news悄悄的把藤的CS往上提一样。
你看十年前的藤list有人是CS吗?没有吧。
以前象CMU的CS都不起眼,现在多著名呀。所以慢慢也会出色的。
CS的大小厂对他们毕业生都趋之若鹜。 放过藤吧 ,不上藤的未必不优秀,自信点哈
http://csrankings.org/#/fromyear/2011/toyear/2021/index?all&us
不上藤的未必不优秀,上藤的一定优秀。他再砸藤,我帮你砸他。
还可以在藤校读个排名超前的专业再加CS,double major。浪里个浪。。
紫檀只认40万吧
每年也就雇藤几个而已。而且不少是PM。就说G一家这几年都是上万的雇人,所有的藤加起来一年毕业生都没有这么多。说不上趋之若鹜。
毕业后继续留在学校读书的,钱是一部分,不是全部。这里相信扎钱眼里的也是少数,大多数还是希望自己的孩子开心。
H在computer science 正式出道之前对comput ing 领域有着卓越的贡献,别的就不说了。
藤的理工及CS 都太学术,是州大把高大上的学术普及实用所以世人多知道州大的理工及CS
这个不是你贬低藤的理由,要尊重历史尊重前辈。LOL
看看那些文科专业,都是藤花最强专业
还不得另加一个CS吗
要不得哎。
没有CS本科,哪儿来的CS Ph D
没有种子哪儿来的果实,对吧
你不觉得不喜欢藤贬藤的越多越好啊?
藤校的CS排名并不算低。如果是名校的CS,比方CMU的CS,UM的CS,我相信并不比藤校好进。能进名校的CS,基本也可以进藤校。
心平气和一点,你这态度其实是非藤不欢啊。晚安!
这样说有意思吗?对现在的孩子读书有什么指导意义? 计算机兴起时主要领域哪有藤啥事呀?
很高兴看见紫檀现在只认钱不认藤了
CS热门也是近几年的事。
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随便拿来就有反例。就算学校好也不意味娃就比别的学校的娃强啊。
不喜欢啥学校,别上就是。
藤的优势就是有钱
砸也能砸出来。
在学生,家长手里啊,喜欢申请什么学校就申请什么学校,放心好了,不会存在什么藤校,名校校长打电话求申请入学的事。
你知道的,我的观点一直是学校专业排名比学校排名重要,孩子高兴最重要。
扛不住了,迷糊去了
晚安
Who Earned First Computer Science Ph.D.? | blog@CACM | Communications of the ACM
Purdue确实是第一个CS department,但Penn给了第一个Ph。D。但不是从CS系里发的博士学位
University of Pennsylvania, Graduate Group in Computer and Information Sciences, founded in 1959 in the Electrical Engineering Department: Initial Ph.D. graduate, Richard Wexelblat in December 1965. The Computer and Information Sciences Department started by 1972. Princeton University's Digital Systems program was founded in the late 1950s or early 1960s in the Electrical Engineering Department. I did not determine an initial graduate which might be in 1960 or 1961. A joint Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Department started in the mid 1970s, and the current Computer Science Department began in 1985. Purdue University, Department of Computer Sciences, October 1962, was the first Computer Science Department in the United States: Karl Usow, June 1966. University of Wisconsin - Madison, Computer Sciences Department, July 1964: Sister Mary Kenneth Keller, June 1965. University of North Carolina, Information Sciences Department, July 1964: Paul Oliver and Jan Prokop, May 1969. University of Virginia, Applied Mathematics and Computer Science Department, November 1964: William Wulf, June 1968. The current Computer Science Department dates to a 1986 separation. University of Michigan. Two entries: Communication Sciences Graduate Program, 1957: John Holland, 1959. Communication Sciences Department, 1964, renamed Computer and Communication Sciences Department, 1967. I discovered no graduates of the departments to mention. The current Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Department is a 1984 merger of Electrical and Computer Engineering with Computer and Communication Sciences. University of Illinois. Computer Science Department started 1964 and added graduate degrees 1966. I discovered no graduates to mention. Stanford University, Computer Science Department, January 1965: William McKeeman and Raj Reddy, 1966. Carnegie Mellon University. Two entries: Computer Science Department, July 1965: Renato Iturriaga and Thomas Standish III, 1967. The Systems and Communications Sciences interdisciplinary program, 1961: Jerome Feldman and Ralph London, June 1964, both through Mathematics. Cornell University, Computer Science Department, 1965: Joel Sturman, 1966. University of Iowa, Computer Science Department, 1965: Morteza Rahimi, December 1968. University of Utah, Computer Science Department, 1965: Charles Carr, June 1969. Washington University in St. Louis, Applied Mathematics and Computer Science Department, 1965: Irving Tang, June 1965.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_science
The world's first computer science degree program, the Cambridge Diploma in Computer Science, began at the University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory in 1953. The first computer science department in the United States was formed at Purdue University in 1962.
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/early-history-computing-princeton
https://www.cs.princeton.edu/news/article/princeton-cs-30-years-and-still-roll
他没看见州大出来的填不饱肚子的不是更多
就是杠呗。在乎得不得了。有本事自己上州大别跟别人比。现在是死乞白赖让人仰望上州大的,巴不能藤校的吃不上饭
什么心态什么人啊
可是没必要酱缸心态
得不到的都抹黑一番
说实话你在国内的话北大清华怎么样,轮得到你评论吗?
以点盖面,拿工资最高的地区来说事。弯曲的地区工资在美国1%之内,没有普遍性。另外你去Google一下,The average work time of an employee at Google is just 4 years,网上有海量的这方面的讨论,something is not right。
我在北京街头遇见过拉板儿车的非得说上大学没用。本坦有几位口气总让我想起那位师傅
一看你就不是学CS的,嘿嘿
神话了都
这是经济学最基本的原理,供求关系决定的啊,你能拿高薪,是因为你能给老板创造更高的利润。
出卖的是自己的劳动力。
学文科的人,更注重的本来就不是自己的劳动力价值,而是自己本身的价值。让自己或者别人活得更有价值,而不是创造更多的价值。
看工程专业,也不能光看工资,高工资的计算机专业是吃青春饭的。专业更新太快,而排在后面的土木机械之类是越老越吃香。基本上知识不用大幅度更新。
这两者是不同理念。
光看工资,不看付出,那样的话读书还不如当十八轮司机。