转贴:从犯罪、无家可归到精神分裂和自杀

米兰之夜
楼主 (文学峸)

The text from her son Randy that Heather Bacchus received at 1:26 AM on July 17, 2021, seemed like good news.

“I’m quitting weed for good and want to surround myself with healthy and happy people,” he wrote. “This has been too much for me and for you guys.”

Less than an hour later, at 2:09 AM, a second text arrived.

“I love you and am sorry for everything. I love dad and the same to him. I wish I would have been a better person.”

It was his suicide note.

That night, Randy killed himself.

His death followed a months-long struggle with psychotic episodes and paranoid delusions — something his parents, Heather and Randy Sr., say was triggered by years of heavy cannabis use.

Now research suggests they were right: a study published by the National Institutes of Health warns that cannabis use is implicated in 30% of cases of schizophrenia among men aged 18 to 30.

The study links schizophrenia to cannabis use disorder: the inability to stop using cannabis despite the negative impacts it is having on the user’s life.

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米兰之夜
楼下有朋友说大麻不等于毒品,可是从我现在知道的信息看,大麻就是毒品。1/3的18 to 30岁精神分裂症和使用大麻有关。
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fuz
你在混淆概念, 亦或自己也没搞明白。大麻有好多种

https://www.bbc.com/ukchina/simp/vert-cap-46450564

 

https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/world-44567085

淮南为橘 淮北为枳?

大麻首先在英文中有很多名字和外号,包括Cannabis,Hemp,Pot, Weed,Marijuana等等。就这些名字是否意味着不同的含义或大麻种类,对此不仅有不同说法,混淆起来可能让人对大麻的概念和作用也会产生不同理解。

加拿大参院批准的休闲性大麻合法化的大麻英文名是Cannabis。这是官方选择的词汇,也是大麻家族来自拉丁文的学名统称,包括植物学上的三大类大麻。

从用途上分,可分为工业大麻、医用大麻和休闲性大麻(毒品),其中有些种类是多用途的。
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是否是毒品大麻,关键在于这种大麻中所含的毒品成份四氢大麻酚(简称THC)的含量有多少。中国汉麻中THC的含量低于0.3%。

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近年来,一些大麻新品种含有高水平的THC,这是一些人士坚决要求严禁大麻的原因,他们说:它可能导致使用者对大麻上瘾,出现生理和精神问题。特别是年青人吸食或口服大麻后,大大增加了他们患精神病的危险,包括精神分裂症和双重人格等。

 

 

 

 

这个是医学界的看法

https://www.mayoclinic.org/zh-hans/drugs-supplements-marijuana/art-20364974

 

 

我们州的相关法规,特别强调:必须来自工业大麻,THC含量低于0.3%

https://arkansascannabis.org/cbd#:~:text=Yes.,THC%2C%20as%20federal%20law%20requires.

 

Per the Arkansas Industrial Hemp Act, a CBD product is considered legal if it satisfies at least one of the following requirements:

Approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

Derived from industrial hemp as described by state legislation

Does not contain more than 0.3%THC

Does not include any living hemp seeds or plant materials

Arkansas residents can legally possess, sell, and consume hemp-derived CBD products that meet these criteria under the Arkansas Industrial Hemp Act.

 

 

米兰之夜
1/3这个数据是NIH给的,肯定比夫子权威,它说的说就是“cannabis use”, 它没说何种大麻。

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/young-men-highest-risk-schizophrenia-linked-cannabis-use-disorder 

米兰之夜
另一个孩子自杀前三天和他妈妈说。

Just before Thanksgiving 2019, 19-year-old Johnny had dinner with his parents. He turned to his mother and said, “I just want you to know you were right about the marijuana. You told me it would hurt my brain, and it has ruined my mind and my life. I’m sorry, I love you.”

Three days later, Johnny jumped off a parking garage and died.

 

永远老李
我感觉DRUG与本坛有很大的距离,老大爷老奶奶们连用筷子用玻璃碗正常吃几顿饭都忧心忡忡,WEED啥的根本就不敢沾

至于鬼子们,他们愿意用DRUG就让他们用就是了,谁也拦不住。

米兰之夜
从2014年开始,一位科罗拉多医生发现急诊室年轻精神病发作患者爆炸式增多,最小患者7岁。

还是主贴里链接里的信息:

Around 2014, the Pueblo, Colorado-based doctor noticed an explosion of young cannabis users presenting with psychotic episodes.

Today, she sees at least one case daily—and the youngest sufferer she has encountered was just 7.

“I really think the issues that we’re seeing now are being driven by high potency, the encouragement to use, and the public’s perception of lack of harm,” Dr. Randall said.

我搜了一下,科罗拉多州正是从2014年开始大麻合法化的:

In 2012, Colorado voted to legalize recreational marijuana beginning in 2014, making it the first state alongside Washington to permit recreational use. Several other states have recently legalized the use of medical or recreational marijuana, with other states considering similar measures (Figure 2).

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永远老李
躺着整两口真是爽啊

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weed123
哈哈
米兰之夜
又捣乱

等你变成李老的时候,估计也和我们差不多

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r41866
我理解你的立场,但是如果要实现你的目的,这里并不是最好的论坛
日月茗
谢谢分享!跟健康相关,我顶你!
日月茗
大家还有后代在国外的,多学点知识没坏处。你的发言没有任何价值,能少说两句吗?
永远老李
我想说什么或者不想说什么轮不到你多嘴
玻璃坊
我从来没说过大麻是什么好东西,但是您用一个吸大麻得抑郁症自杀的例子就能证明大麻是毒品了?没吸过大麻得抑郁症自杀的人更多
玻璃坊
芬太尼杀死了几十万人了。跟毒品做斗争为什么不从危害最大的开始?
玻璃坊
植物毒品里罂粟、古柯和衍生品海洛因、可卡因危害要大的多,偏偏挑一个害处不如烟草的做斗争
米兰之夜
朋友你好!芬太尼诞生于57年。我现在想10年之内发生了什么,所以它暂不在我的考虑之内。

而且,它基本属于药物的滥用和个人行为,对它的危害大家认识也比较一致。

玻璃坊
这个坛子是“健康养生”;您真的认为上这个坛子的不知道什么是大麻、大麻的利与弊?

我自己不用大麻,但这个坛子有人用;我不认为他们您帮他们认清大麻的害处。

 

还是那句话,如果您对毒品的态度是认真的,您就应该从最有害的开始,而不是随意pick一个。

玻璃坊
确实很有喜剧效果LOL
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goingplace
哈哈。。。
纤风
美国市面上的CBD Oil 通常是来自Hemp 。Hemp的THC含量很低,通常在0.3%以下,符合联邦法规的要求。
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pickshell
+1 确实大麻存在不同种类,单凭个名字很易混淆或误导,包括媒体也常搞错。
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pickshell
这说法不合理,估计“精神病发作患者爆炸式增多”存在其他原因。

大麻合法化前/后,实际真正吸大麻的人数并没有太大变化。,

米兰之夜
这里我想说的不是CDB oil,是Cannabis,也就是所谓的娱乐性大麻。

在美分州合法化的娱乐大麻,THC>3%,CBD较低; 而医用大麻,THC<3%, CBD更高。

所以要说上瘾性,娱乐大麻更坑。

米兰之夜
帖子转的,是关于cannabis的危害。cannabis也就是娱乐性大麻的正式名称。

所转的帖子是关于cannabis(娱乐性大麻),这点很清楚,因为里面引用的NIH论文,就是SCZ和cannabis use的关系。所以,首先一点可以确定,就是那个帖子的主题是娱乐性大麻,不是谈医用大麻、工业大麻。

至于weed, pot,也就是个外号,没有成分意义。

所转的帖子里,一个孩子说“quit weeds";

还有一句话,说”a third of pot smokers are plagued by the disorder“ 。 

所以,weed, pot之类的名称不代表大麻产品的类别,只是cannabis的外号,而已。

 

 

 

米兰之夜
对CBD,因为好多数据支持,我现在是谨慎同意它没问题。之所以谨慎,是我的直觉告诉我,它有问题。

但我又不能以直觉就把很多人的结论和实验给否了。

纤风
就像附子是把双刃剑。CBD甚至THC对有些病人来说利大于弊。医用大麻值得研究探索。

例如:Sativex是一种由THC和CBD组成的药物,专门用于治疗多发性硬化症相关的症状。

纤风
反对滥用娱乐性大麻。
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pickshell
对,“THC含量”才是关键。
唐宋韵
刚看到。这篇真是扯,没有科学道理。不能因为是英文写的,就要膜拜。