On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers.
Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State University, Logan, Utah. On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel “who was in authority in the presence of God,” a “son of the morning.” (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25–27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)
How could two such great spirits become so totally opposite? The answer lies in the principle of agency, which has existed from all eternity. (See D&C 93:30–31.) Of Lucifer, the scripture says that because of rebellion “he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies.” (Moses 4:4.) Note that he was not created evil, but became Satan by his own choice.
When our Father in Heaven presented his plan of salvation, Jesus sustained the plan and his part in it, giving the glory to God, to whom it properly belonged. Lucifer, on the other hand, sought power, honor, and glory only for himself. (See Isa. 14:13–14; Moses 4:1–2.) When his modification of the Father’s plan was rejected, he rebelled against God and was subsequently cast out of heaven with those who had sided with him. (See Rev. 12:7–9; D&C 29:36–37.)
That brothers would make dramatically different choices is not unusual. It has happened time and again, as the scriptures attest: Cain chose to serve Satan; Abel chose to serve God. (See Moses 5:16–18.) Esau “despised his birthright”; Jacob wanted to honor it. (Gen. 25:29–34.) Joseph’s brothers sought to kill him; he sought to preserve them. (Gen. 37:12–24; Gen. 45:3 –11.)
It is ironic that the agency with which Lucifer rebelled is the very gift he tried to take from man. His proposal was that all be forced back into God’s presence. (See Moses 4:1, 3.) But the principle of agency is fundamental to the existence and progression of intelligent beings: as we make wise choices, we grow in light and truth. On the other hand, wrong choices—such as the one Satan made—stop progress and can even deny us blessings that we already have. (See D&C 93:30–36.)
In order for us to progress, therefore, we must have the opportunity to choose good or evil. Interestingly, Satan and his angels—those who opposed agency—have become that opposition. As the prophet Lehi taught, “Men are free according to the flesh; and all things are given them which are expedient unto man. And they are free to choose liberty and eternal life, through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death, according to the captivity and power of the devil; for he seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself.” (2 Ne. 2:27.)
Although the Father has allowed Satan and his angels to tempt mankind, he has given each of us the ability to rise above temptation. (See 1 Cor. 10:13.) He has also given us the great gift of the Atonement.
When the Lord placed enmity between Eve’s children and the devil, Satan was told that he would bruise the heel of Eve’s seed, but her seed would bruise his head. (See Moses 4:21.) President Joseph Fielding Smith explained that “the ‘God of peace,’ who according to the scriptures is to bruise Satan, is Jesus Christ.” (Answers to Gospel Questions, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1957, 1:3.) Satan would bruise the Savior’s heel by leading men to crucify Him. But through his death and resurrection, Christ overcame death for all of us; and through his atonement, he offers each of us a way to escape the eternal ramifications of sin. Thus, Satan’s machinations have been frustrated and eventually he will be judged, bound, and cast into hell forever. (See Rev. 20:1–10; D&C 29:26–29.)
In Hebrew, the word bruise means “to crush or grind.” Therefore, the very heel that was bruised will crush Satan and will help us overcome the world and return to our Father. As we use our agency to choose good over evil, the atonement of Christ prepares the way for us to return to our Father in Heaven.
We can only imagine the sorrow of our Heavenly Father as he watched a loved son incite and lead a rebellion and lose his opportunity for exaltation. But we can also imagine the Father’s love and rejoicing as he welcomed back the beloved son who had valiantly and perfectly fought the battles of life and brought about the great Atonement through his suffering and death.
【 在 liufanghe (garfield) 的大作中提到: 】 : 高级黑吗,这篇讲道义讲得很实在呀 : Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State University : , Logan, Utah. On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, : Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those : unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the : prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our : Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the : Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel “who was in authority : in the presence of God,” a “son of the morning.” (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76 : :25–27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge : ...................
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】 : Free will is good. If God is good, he has given us free will. : ‘God knows in advance all the choices we will make; therefore we are not : free, and cannot be held responsible when we do wrong.’ : If I could choose this or that, how does God know what I will choose before : I’ve chosen? : If God doesn’t know, then God doesn’t know everything, so isn’t : omniscient.
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】 : (1) God is omnipotent (that is, all-powerful). : (2) God is omniscient (that is, all-knowing). : (3) God is perfectly good. : (4) Evil exists.
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】 : How can Jesus and Lucifer be spirit brothers when their characters and : purposes are so utterly opposed? : http://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/06/i-have-a-question/how-can-jesus-and-lucifer-be-spirit-brothers-when-their-characters-and-purposes-are-so-utterly-opposed?lang=eng&adobe_mc_ref=https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/06/i-have-a-question/how-can-jesus-and-lucifer-be-spirit-brothers-when-their-characters-and-purposes-are-so-utterly-opposed?lang=eng&adobe_mc_sdid=SDID=03072E1E02D01E23-2834B0EB57AB4D33|MCORGID=66C5485451E56AAE0A490D45: %40AdobeOrg|TS=1640817677 : On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are : brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with : latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that : Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, : therefore, spirit brothers.
How can Jesus and Lucifer be spirit brothers when their characters and
purposes are so utterly opposed?
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On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and,
therefore, spirit brothers.
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】
: How can Jesus and Lucifer be spirit brothers when their characters and
路西法
高级黑吗,这篇讲道义讲得很实在呀
Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State University, Logan, Utah. On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord,
Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the
prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our
Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the
Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel “who was in authority in the presence of God,” a “son of the morning.” (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25–27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge
and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s
older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)
How could two such great spirits become so totally opposite? The answer lies in the principle of agency, which has existed from all eternity. (See D&C
93:30–31.) Of Lucifer, the scripture says that because of rebellion “he
became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies.” (Moses 4:4.)
Note that he was not created evil, but became Satan by his own choice.
When our Father in Heaven presented his plan of salvation, Jesus sustained
the plan and his part in it, giving the glory to God, to whom it properly
belonged. Lucifer, on the other hand, sought power, honor, and glory only
for himself. (See Isa. 14:13–14; Moses 4:1–2.) When his modification of
the Father’s plan was rejected, he rebelled against God and was
subsequently cast out of heaven with those who had sided with him. (See Rev. 12:7–9; D&C 29:36–37.)
That brothers would make dramatically different choices is not unusual. It
has happened time and again, as the scriptures attest: Cain chose to serve
Satan; Abel chose to serve God. (See Moses 5:16–18.) Esau “despised his
birthright”; Jacob wanted to honor it. (Gen. 25:29–34.) Joseph’s brothers sought to kill him; he sought to preserve them. (Gen. 37:12–24; Gen. 45:3
–11.)
It is ironic that the agency with which Lucifer rebelled is the very gift he tried to take from man. His proposal was that all be forced back into God’s presence. (See Moses 4:1, 3.) But the principle of agency is fundamental
to the existence and progression of intelligent beings: as we make wise
choices, we grow in light and truth. On the other hand, wrong choices—such as the one Satan made—stop progress and can even deny us blessings that we already have. (See D&C 93:30–36.)
In order for us to progress, therefore, we must have the opportunity to
choose good or evil. Interestingly, Satan and his angels—those who opposed agency—have become that opposition. As the prophet Lehi taught, “Men are
free according to the flesh; and all things are given them which are
expedient unto man. And they are free to choose liberty and eternal life,
through the great Mediator of all men, or to choose captivity and death,
according to the captivity and power of the devil; for he seeketh that all
men might be miserable like unto himself.” (2 Ne. 2:27.)
Although the Father has allowed Satan and his angels to tempt mankind, he
has given each of us the ability to rise above temptation. (See 1 Cor. 10:13.) He has also given us the great gift of the Atonement.
When the Lord placed enmity between Eve’s children and the devil, Satan was told that he would bruise the heel of Eve’s seed, but her seed would
bruise his head. (See Moses 4:21.) President Joseph Fielding Smith explained that “the ‘God of peace,’ who according to the scriptures is to bruise
Satan, is Jesus Christ.” (Answers to Gospel Questions, Salt Lake City:
Deseret Book Co., 1957, 1:3.) Satan would bruise the Savior’s heel by
leading men to crucify Him. But through his death and resurrection, Christ
overcame death for all of us; and through his atonement, he offers each of
us a way to escape the eternal ramifications of sin. Thus, Satan’s
machinations have been frustrated and eventually he will be judged, bound,
and cast into hell forever. (See Rev. 20:1–10; D&C 29:26–29.)
In Hebrew, the word bruise means “to crush or grind.” Therefore, the very heel that was bruised will crush Satan and will help us overcome the world
and return to our Father. As we use our agency to choose good over evil, the atonement of Christ prepares the way for us to return to our Father in
Heaven.
We can only imagine the sorrow of our Heavenly Father as he watched a loved son incite and lead a rebellion and lose his opportunity for exaltation. But we can also imagine the Father’s love and rejoicing as he welcomed back
the beloved son who had valiantly and perfectly fought the battles of life
and brought about the great Atonement through his suffering and death.
反正都是扯淡，知不知道有什么区别
属实，都是tmd扯大淡
【 在 NYER2002 (loveNY) 的大作中提到: 】
: 反正都是扯淡，知不知道有什么区别
教会华人大妈也不知道你是毛粉。。。。
教会华人大妈都知道叔是毛粉
【 在 bnw (中国人民是党的铜墙铁壁) 的大作中提到: 】
: 教会华人大妈也不知道你是毛粉。。。。
犹他大学，魔门教的教义，难怪
【 在 liufanghe (garfield) 的大作中提到: 】
: 高级黑吗,这篇讲道义讲得很实在呀
: Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State
University
: , Logan, Utah. On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord,
: Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to
those
: unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the : prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our : Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the
: Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel “who was in
authority
: in the presence of God,” a “son of the morning.” (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76
: :25–27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge : ...................
一元论宗教必然导出的结论呗。
为了摆脱这个困境，基督教发明了自由意志这个概念。
就是你坏是自己坏，和上帝无关。
圣经里没有撒旦吧，这是后人编出来
【 在 StMicheal(archangel) 的大作中提到 】
: 一元论宗教必然导出的结论呗。
: 为了摆脱这个困境，基督教发明了自由意志这个概念。
: 就是你坏是自己坏，和上帝无关。
上次我们已经简单说了魔鬼和撒旦的来龙去脉，他们是有个体人格的真实存在。理性、启示，还有个人生命的经验都支持确实有这种类型的邪恶存在。圣经告诉我们，撒旦是一个堕落的天使，而且原本可能还是最优秀最高级的天使，是遮掩约柜的基路伯，是天上万军之首；他是一个灵，不过他并非无所不在，但是他移动速度很快，另外他手下还有一支追随他的魔鬼兵团，都是和他一起悖逆堕落的天使。所以呢，我们总结一下。第一个问题，撒旦存在么？答案为：是的，牠存在。第二个问题，撒旦是谁？牠是什么东西？答案：牠是一个灵，原本是一个非常强大的天使，后来堕落了，而且牠还带了许多天使和牠一起堕落，一起抗拒神和阻碍神的目标实现，这些天使就成为牠手下的魔鬼。从圣经还能看出来，属灵的争战无所不在：在约伯记，撒旦能来到神的王座与神争论；在但以理书，说到天上有争战；至于在地上的战斗，那就更多了，旧约新约都有许多记录。对此，我们可绝不能轻忽啊。
至于这一次，我想和大家分享一下关于撒旦的第三个问题：撒旦有哪些特点呢？我们要把撒旦说得更详细一些，描画得更细致一些，让大家对他有更清楚的认识。实际上，我们如果想对世界的现实和未来有更深刻的理解，就需要对撒旦这个人类的敌人，有个清楚的认识。了解对手才能更好地认识自己。保罗就说过：「我们必须熟悉撒旦的诡计」；在哥林多后书2:11，保罗说：「免得撒但趁着机会胜过我们，因我们并非不晓得他的诡计。」对撒旦认识得越多，我们的防御就会越好。所以我觉得这个分享是很有必要的。
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9A%84%E6%80%A7%E6%A0%BC%E5%92%8C%E7%89%B9%E7%82%B9
【 在 frypig (国际著名昆虫学家副厅教授博导主攻蟑螂) 的大作中提到: 】
: 圣经里没有撒旦吧，这是后人编出来
:
: 一元论宗教必然导出的结论呗。
:
: 为了摆脱这个困境，基督教发明了自由意志这个概念。
:
: 就是你坏是自己坏，和上帝无关。
:
去教会的大多中国人就是奔着撒旦去的，都是要下地狱的。
大多数都是冲着免费pizza, 和妹子去的，不至于下地狱
【 在 GBMend(诺华老药工) 的大作中提到 】
: 去教会的大多中国人就是奔着撒旦去的，都是要下地狱的。
【 在 GBMend (诺华老药工) 的大作中提到: 】
: 去教会的大多中国人就是奔着撒旦去的，都是要下地狱的。
J*** 这是啥 看不懂
【 在 bj3(蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】
你出门去山里带个上帝像带个跳蛋原来是去给你信撒旦教的弟兄们玩的呀。你找华人教会的人提前插队打疫苗时有没有和他们探讨过上帝和撒旦的关系呀。
你连最基本的神学概念都没有啊。
二元论早就被奥古斯丁批判了。
你好好读点书吧。
撒旦弄不好是上帝分身呢，或者上帝是多重人格？就跟双性恋一样分裂？
奥古斯丁是后来晚辈学士，只是个批注圣经混饭吃的文人。你只对批注感兴趣，却对原文不闻不问，你怎么能舍本求末？
【 在 SCABBARD (无忌) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你连最基本的神学概念都没有啊。
: 二元论早就被奥古斯丁批判了。
: 你好好读点书吧。
【 在 piggybank (没钱的小猪猪) 的大作中提到: 】
: 撒旦弄不好是上帝分身呢，或者上帝是多重人格？就跟双性恋一样分裂？
很好，你这个态度很好。唯独圣经，是对的。但是，过去神学家的经典注释，绝不能忽视。
而且，在你深研圣经原文之前，你应该学习希腊文和希伯来文，要研究就要研究原版原文，这就是我决心去神学院进修的主要原因。
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】
: 奥古斯丁是后来晚辈学士，只是个批注圣经混饭吃的文人。你只对批注感兴趣，却对原
: 文不闻不问，你怎么能舍本求末？
既然上帝无所不能，为什么又会又撒旦的存在
如果撒旦的存在是上帝故意安排的
那上帝是不是太坏了？
你又来扯希腊文和希伯来文，圣经已经翻译成100多种语言了，翻译不是问题。
上帝和撒旦是兄弟旧约中有叙述
【 在 SCABBARD (无忌) 的大作中提到: 】
: 很好，你这个态度很好。唯独圣经，是对的。但是，过去神学家的经典注释，绝不能忽
: 视。
: 而且，在你深研圣经原文之前，你应该学习希腊文和希伯来文，要研究就要研究原版原
: 文，这就是我决心去神学院进修的主要原因。
根据加尔文神学，撒旦确实是在上帝的完全掌控之下的。但是，撒旦的堕落，和人的犯罪，却都又是他们自己的罪的结果。
【 在 mydada (我爹) 的大作中提到: 】
: 既然上帝无所不能，为什么又会又撒旦的存在
: 如果撒旦的存在是上帝故意安排的
: 那上帝是不是太坏了？
翻译怎么不是问题。耶证的圣经就不是和合本圣经，翻译上的偏差能导致教义发生重大分歧。
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你又来扯希腊文和希伯来文，圣经已经翻译成100多种语言了，翻译不是问题。
: 上帝和撒旦是兄弟旧约中有叙述
“却都又是他们自己的罪的结果。”
你要信上帝是万能的，就不会说这种话了。
https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E4%B8%8A%E5%B8%9D%E6%82%96%E8%AE%BA/812126
【 在 SCABBARD (无忌) 的大作中提到: 】
: 根据加尔文神学，撒旦确实是在上帝的完全掌控之下的。但是，撒旦的堕落，和人的犯
: 罪，却都又是他们自己的罪的结果。
上帝既然无所不能，为什么不能阻止人的堕落？
【 在 SCABBARD (无忌) 的大作中提到: 】
: 根据加尔文神学，撒旦确实是在上帝的完全掌控之下的。但是，撒旦的堕落，和人的犯
: 罪，却都又是他们自己的罪的结果。
上帝万能论导致如此结果
1. 人世间的罪恶上帝能管，但不管
2. 如果 1 成立，那上帝就不是善的上帝
【 在 mydada (我爹) 的大作中提到: 】
: 上帝既然无所不能，为什么不能阻止人的堕落？
撒旦是大天使，是受造之物。耶稣是圣子，是由圣父所“生”，而不是所“造”。
关于基督的神人二性论，亚他那修信经就明确了，是正统神学教义。你的这种说法，就是亚流派神学的一个变种。异端。。。异端。。。。异端。。。。
你到底去的是什么教会，平时没学正统教义吗？
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你又来扯希腊文和希伯来文，圣经已经翻译成100多种语言了，翻译不是问题。
: 上帝和撒旦是兄弟旧约中有叙述
上帝是无所不能，又是你的创造者，为什么听你的？
【 在 mydada (我爹) 的大作中提到: 】
: 上帝既然无所不能，为什么不能阻止人的堕落？
你没学基本的加尔文神学吗？这个问题加尔文已经明确解释过了。
你去的到底是什么教会？不会是耶证异端教会吧？
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】
: 上帝万能论导致如此结果
: 1. 人世间的罪恶上帝能管，但不管
: 2. 如果 1 成立，那上帝就不是善的上帝
Free will is good. If God is good, he has given us free will.
‘God knows in advance all the choices we will make; therefore we are not
free, and cannot be held responsible when we do wrong.’
If I could choose this or that, how does God know what I will choose before I’ve chosen?
If God doesn’t know, then God doesn’t know everything, so isn’t
omniscient.
【 在 SCABBARD (无忌) 的大作中提到: 】
: 撒旦是大天使，是受造之物。耶稣是圣子，是由圣父所“生”，而不是所“造”。
: 关于基督的神人二性论，亚他那修信经就明确了，是正统神学教义。你的这种说法，就
: 是亚流派神学的一个变种。异端。。。异端。。。。异端。。。。
: 你到底去的是什么教会，平时没学正统教义吗？
你去看一下奥古斯丁对于自由意志是怎么解释的？亚当在堕落之前，是有自由意志的，是真正的自由意志，可以选择犯罪，也可以选择不犯罪。
但是，自从亚当犯罪之后，人类就没有真正意义上的自由意志。也就是说，人有选择犯这种罪的自由，也有犯那种罪的自由，但是没有不犯罪的自由。
加尔文把这个观点发展成了“全然败坏”，或者“全然无能力”，郁金香五点的第一条。
你的神学观点一塌糊涂。如果不是没学明白，就是走偏了路，成为了异端。
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】
: Free will is good. If God is good, he has given us free will.
: ‘God knows in advance all the choices we will make; therefore we are not : free, and cannot be held responsible when we do wrong.’
: If I could choose this or that, how does God know what I will choose
before
: I’ve chosen?
: If God doesn’t know, then God doesn’t know everything, so isn’t
: omniscient.
(1) God is omnipotent (that is, all-powerful).
(2) God is omniscient (that is, all-knowing).
(3) God is perfectly good.
(4) Evil exists.
【 在 SCABBARD (无忌) 的大作中提到: 】
: 根据加尔文神学，撒旦确实是在上帝的完全掌控之下的。但是，撒旦的堕落，和人的犯
: 罪，却都又是他们自己的罪的结果。
伊比鸠鲁哲学，还以为你多高端呢？使徒行传里记载了保罗驳斥过这派的哲学。
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】
: (1) God is omnipotent (that is, all-powerful).
: (2) God is omniscient (that is, all-knowing).
: (3) God is perfectly good.
: (4) Evil exists.
【 在 SCABBARD (无忌) 的大作中提到: 】
: 伊比鸠鲁哲学，还以为你多高端呢？使徒行传里记载了保罗驳斥过这派的哲学。
就是说上帝觉得人的堕落不是什么坏东西？
【 在 SCABBARD (无忌) 的大作中提到: 】
: 上帝是无所不能，又是你的创造者，为什么听你的？
撒旦就是圣灵。三位一体。
【 在 bj3 (蘑菇头) 的大作中提到: 】
: How can Jesus and Lucifer be spirit brothers when their characters and
: purposes are so utterly opposed?
: http://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/06/i-have-a-question/how-can-jesus-and-lucifer-be-spirit-brothers-when-their-characters-and-purposes-are-so-utterly-opposed?lang=eng&adobe_mc_ref=https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/06/i-have-a-question/how-can-jesus-and-lucifer-be-spirit-brothers-when-their-characters-and-purposes-are-so-utterly-opposed?lang=eng&adobe_mc_sdid=SDID=03072E1E02D01E23-2834B0EB57AB4D33|MCORGID=66C5485451E56AAE0A490D45: %40AdobeOrg|TS=1640817677
: On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ,
are
: brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted
with
: latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm
that
: Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and,
: therefore, spirit brothers.
【 在 TheMatrix (TheMatrix) 的大作中提到: 】
: 撒旦就是圣灵。三位一体。
: 7
: are
: with
: that
Hell yeah! How the satanists became the good guys
http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/hell-yeah-how-the-satanists-became-the-good-guys-1.3991820
【 在 SCABBARD (无忌) 的大作中提到: 】
: 伊比鸠鲁哲学，还以为你多高端呢？使徒行传里记载了保罗驳斥过这派的哲学。
【 在 AbuHajaar (扎针了没) 的大作中提到: 】
: J*** 这是啥 看不懂
: