NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in December 2019
By Maggie Fox, CNN
Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021 US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins
US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04
(CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks before the first officially reported cases. Frozen blood samples indicate people in five states -- Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Mississippi and Massachusetts -- were infected with coronavirus days or weeks before any cases were officially reported in those states. Volunteers taking part in the National Institutes of Health's All of Us study, an ongoing effort to gather health information on 1 million people, donated blood as part of the study. Tests of 24,000 samples taken in early 2020 showed antibodies to coronavirus in the blood of at least nine people, the All of Us researchers reported in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.
"These included individuals with specimens collected January 7 from Illinois, January 8 from Massachusetts, February 3 from Wisconsin, February 15 from Pennsylvania, and March 6 in Mississippi," they wrote.
The first previously recognized case of Covid-19 in Illinois was reported on January 24 in a woman who had just returned from Wuhan, China, the researchers said.
The first confirmed case in Massachusetts was not until February 1. In Wisconsin, the first confirmed case had been February 5, in Pennsylvania the first reported case was March 6 and in Mississippi it was March 11. Since it takes about two weeks to develop antibodies after infection, the findings indicate some of the volunteers were infected in December, the researchers said.
"This study contributes to the evidence of low-level circulation of SARS-CoV-2 in many states at the start of the US epidemic," the researchers wrote.
"Among the first 12 known cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in the United States, the earliest recognized symptoms onset date was January 14, 2020, and all 12 cases had recently traveled to mainland China or were close contacts of recent travelers. Domestic testing for SARS-CoV-2 began in mid-January 2020," they added. At the time. the federal government only recommended testing people with symptoms who had a history of travel, or direct contact with a traveler. These findings suggest that policy missed cases, the researchers said. "I think what this study shows is that there are a lot of pieces still that we have to uncover and put together from all the days of this epidemic in the United States," Dr. Keri Althoff, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health who worked on the study, told CNN. A study published last November found evidence of antibodies in people's blood in the US as early as December 13. Other studies have also indicated the virus landed in the US in December. While the data being given as part of the study is anonymized, the researchers can contact the volunteers and plan to do so, Sheri Schully, who is working on the All of Us project at NIH, told CNN.
"They have a participant portal where they can actually go in and see what's being done with their specimens," Schully said. They'll be asked for any more information about whether they had traveled or been in contact with someone who may have traveled back in 2019 and early 2020. One of the volunteers whose blood tested positive who also filled out a health survey reported fever, cough and sore throat and said they believed they may have had Covid-19 at around the time the blood specimen was taken. "Review of electronic health record data during the relevant time frame revealed two seropositive participants had illnesses compatible with mild COVID-19 (e.g., fatigue and mild respiratory symptoms), but additional testing was limited and no diagnosis was confirmed. The other seven seropositive participants had no evidence of health care utilization in their electronic health record data," the researchers added. The findings do not mean coronavirus was spreading widely in the United States in December 2019 or January 2020, the researchers said. Get CNN Health's weekly newsletter
"It's important to remember that if you did think maybe you had Covid in those early days -- which I don't think there's a person out there who hasn't racked their brain about what they might have had at the start of the pandemic -- it was very, very low prevalence," Althoff said. "So if you did have some sort of respiratory infection, the likelihood that it was SARS-CoV-2 is actually pretty low in this timeframe." The researchers took care to make sure they did not get false positives on the antibody tests, and tested each sample twice. Nonetheless, they said, it's possible the tests detected pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses that happened to randomly create antibodies to the 2019 coronavirus. Four other coronaviruses regularly infect people, causing common cold symptoms.
The tests used on the blood samples detect the immune response to infection and do not look for direct evidence of infection. The findings also indicated minorities were harder hit by the virus even early in the pandemic. Seven of the nine samples were taken from older, minority participants, the researchers said.
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】 : https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/ : index.html : NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in : December 2019 : By Maggie Fox, CNN : Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021 : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04 : (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating : at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】 : https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/ : index.html : NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in : December 2019 : By Maggie Fox, CNN : Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021 : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04 : (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating : at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】 : https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/ : index.html : NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in : December 2019 : By Maggie Fox, CNN : Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021 : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04 : (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating : at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
"Among the first 12 known cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in the United States, the earliest recognized symptoms onset date was January 14, 2020, and all 12 cases had recently traveled to mainland China or were close contacts of recent travelers. Domestic testing for SARS-CoV-2 began in mid-January 2020," they added.
At the time. the federal government only recommended testing people with symptoms who had a history of travel, or direct contact with a traveler. These findings suggest that policy missed cases, the researchers said.
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】 : "Among the first 12 known cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in the United States : , the earliest recognized symptoms onset date was January 14, 2020, and all : 12 cases had recently traveled to mainland China or were close contacts of: recent travelers. Domestic testing for SARS-CoV-2 began in mid-January 2020, : " they added.
The researchers took care to make sure they did not get false positives on the antibody tests, and tested each sample twice. Nonetheless, they said, it's possible the tests detected pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses that happened to randomly create antibodies to the 2019 coronavirus. Four other coronaviruses regularly infect people, causing common cold symptoms.
【 在 kz80 (慢枪手) 的大作中提到: 】 : 你不要只读你想读的部分 : At the time. the federal government only recommended testing people with : symptoms who had a history of travel, or direct contact with a traveler. : These findings suggest that policy missed cases, the researchers said. : States : all : 2020,
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】 : https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/ : index.html : NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in : December 2019 : By Maggie Fox, CNN : Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021 : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04 : (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating : at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
It can be difficult to distinguish antibodies that neutralize SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, from antibodies that fight other coronaviruses, including some that cause the common cold. Researchers in both the NIH and CDC studies used multiple types of tests to minimize false positive results, but some experts say it still is possible their 2019 positives were infections by other coronaviruses and not the pandemic strain .
【 在 SLE (嗯，就这样定了。) 的大作中提到: 】 : It can be difficult to distinguish antibodies that neutralize SARS-CoV-2, : the virus that causes COVID-19, from antibodies that fight other : coronaviruses, including some that cause the common cold. Researchers in : both the NIH and CDC studies used multiple types of tests to minimize false : positive results, but some experts say it still is possible their 2019 : positives were infections by other coronaviruses and not the pandemic strain : .
Tests of 24,000 samples taken in early 2020 showed antibodies to coronavirus in the blood of at least nine people, ------------------------------------------ 24000个样本里测出9例，比例很低啊。而且是early 2020.
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】 : Tests of 24,000 samples taken in early : 2020 showed antibodies to coronavirus in the blood of at least nine people, : ------------------------------------------ : 24000个样本里测出9例，比例很低啊。而且是early 2020.
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】 : https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/ : index.html : NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in : December 2019 : By Maggie Fox, CNN : Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021 : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04 : (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating : at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
Nonetheless, they said, it 's possible the tests detected pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses that happened to randomly create antibodies to the 2019 coronavirus. Four other coronaviruses regularly infect people, causing common cold symptoms.
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】 : https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/ : index.html : NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in : December 2019 : By Maggie Fox, CNN : Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021 : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04 : (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating : at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】 : https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/ : index.html : NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in : December 2019 : By Maggie Fox, CNN : Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021 : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04 : (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating : at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
Frozen blood samples indicate people in five states -- Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Mississippi and Massachusetts @@@@@@@@@@ 没敢检查里德堡实验室更近的弗吉利亚州，DC，和马里兰的血液样本。真相呼之欲出啊！
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】 : https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/ : index.html : NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in : December 2019 : By Maggie Fox, CNN : Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021 : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins : US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04 : (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating : at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
【在 piggybank(没钱的小猪猪)的大作中提到：】 ：Frozen blood samples indicate people in five states -- Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Mississippi and Massachusetts ：@@@@@@@@@@
【 在 ridgwaymj (ridgwaymj) 的大作中提到: 】 : 用这个方法测测全中国19年12�9�7之前的血样。只要测的数量足够大，肯定会有一些阳 : 性的。 : ：Nonetheless, they said, it : ：'s possible the tests detected pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses : that
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NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in
December 2019
By Maggie Fox, CNN
Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021
US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins
US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04
(CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating
at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks
before the first officially reported cases.
Frozen blood samples indicate people in five states -- Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Mississippi and Massachusetts -- were infected with
coronavirus days or weeks before any cases were officially reported in those states.
Volunteers taking part in the National Institutes of Health's All of Us
study, an ongoing effort to gather health information on 1 million people,
donated blood as part of the study. Tests of 24,000 samples taken in early
2020 showed antibodies to coronavirus in the blood of at least nine people, the All of Us researchers reported in the journal Clinical Infectious
Diseases.
"These included individuals with specimens collected January 7 from Illinois, January 8 from Massachusetts, February 3 from Wisconsin, February 15 from Pennsylvania, and March 6 in Mississippi," they wrote.
The first previously recognized case of Covid-19 in Illinois was reported on January 24 in a woman who had just returned from Wuhan, China, the
researchers said.
The first confirmed case in Massachusetts was not until February 1. In
Wisconsin, the first confirmed case had been February 5, in Pennsylvania the first reported case was March 6 and in Mississippi it was March 11.
Since it takes about two weeks to develop antibodies after infection, the
findings indicate some of the volunteers were infected in December, the
researchers said.
"This study contributes to the evidence of low-level circulation of SARS-CoV-2 in many states at the start of the US epidemic," the researchers wrote.
"Among the first 12 known cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in the United States, the earliest recognized symptoms onset date was January 14, 2020, and all 12 cases had recently traveled to mainland China or were close contacts of
recent travelers. Domestic testing for SARS-CoV-2 began in mid-January 2020," they added.
At the time. the federal government only recommended testing people with
symptoms who had a history of travel, or direct contact with a traveler.
These findings suggest that policy missed cases, the researchers said.
"I think what this study shows is that there are a lot of pieces still that we have to uncover and put together from all the days of this epidemic in
the United States," Dr. Keri Althoff, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health who worked on the study, told CNN.
A study published last November found evidence of antibodies in people's
blood in the US as early as December 13. Other studies have also indicated
the virus landed in the US in December.
While the data being given as part of the study is anonymized, the
researchers can contact the volunteers and plan to do so, Sheri Schully, who is working on the All of Us project at NIH, told CNN.
"They have a participant portal where they can actually go in and see what's being done with their specimens," Schully said. They'll be asked for any
more information about whether they had traveled or been in contact with
someone who may have traveled back in 2019 and early 2020.
One of the volunteers whose blood tested positive who also filled out a
health survey reported fever, cough and sore throat and said they believed
they may have had Covid-19 at around the time the blood specimen was taken.
"Review of electronic health record data during the relevant time frame
revealed two seropositive participants had illnesses compatible with mild
COVID-19 (e.g., fatigue and mild respiratory symptoms), but additional
testing was limited and no diagnosis was confirmed. The other seven
seropositive participants had no evidence of health care utilization in
their electronic health record data," the researchers added.
The findings do not mean coronavirus was spreading widely in the United
States in December 2019 or January 2020, the researchers said.
Get CNN Health's weekly newsletter
"It's important to remember that if you did think maybe you had Covid in
those early days -- which I don't think there's a person out there who hasn't racked their brain about what they might have had at the start of the
pandemic -- it was very, very low prevalence," Althoff said.
"So if you did have some sort of respiratory infection, the likelihood that it was SARS-CoV-2 is actually pretty low in this timeframe."
The researchers took care to make sure they did not get false positives on
the antibody tests, and tested each sample twice. Nonetheless, they said, it's possible the tests detected pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses that
happened to randomly create antibodies to the 2019 coronavirus. Four other
coronaviruses regularly infect people, causing common cold symptoms.
The tests used on the blood samples detect the immune response to infection and do not look for direct evidence of infection.
The findings also indicated minorities were harder hit by the virus even
early in the pandemic. Seven of the nine samples were taken from older,
minority participants, the researchers said.
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7-12月份呢？如果是新冠，中国这么大的人口密度和往来人流量，还能到2020年1月份
才在武汉大规模爆发？用你的脑子好好想想。
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.sohu.com/a/334463872_313745
: 2019年上半年中国流感病例超过去4年总和
: 根据中国疾病预防控制中心统计数据发现，2019年1-6月全国共报告流感病例191万，死
: 亡279例，几乎是过去五年的流感上报人数总和（193万）。
武汉距离周边的城市和省份难道比美国更远？
这厮真的很下贱，猪油蒙了心，说话如同放屁！
【 在 solarlight (MC重金属愚公) 的大作中提到: 】
: 上海并没有，莫非武汉去美国的人比去上海，北京，深圳的还多？LOL
: ：五毛觉得跟救命稻草似的。
: ：12月美国就有零星感染不正常么，武汉有班机直飞美国。
2019年上半年中国流感病例超过去4年总和
根据中国疾病预防控制中心统计数据发现，2019年1-6月全国共报告流感病例191万，死亡279例，几乎是过去五年的流感上报人数总和（193万）。
【 在 SidRat (I am Sid .) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你丫放屁！
你丫放屁！
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】
: 2019年，中国流感人数是之前4年的总和，其实就是新冠。
允许检测武汉和中国之前流感大量死亡病人样本，肯定会有发现。
【 在 jojoyz (jojoyz) 的大作中提到: 】
: 更早吧，不信允许检测之前流感大量死亡病人样本，肯定会有发现
🛋️ 沙发板凳
更早吧，不信允许检测之前流感大量死亡病人样本，肯定会有发现
李奇微正在赶来的路上，边跑边训练舌头：吃葡萄不吐葡萄皮
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/
: index.html
: NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in
: December 2019
: By Maggie Fox, CNN
: Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04
: (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating
: at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
cnn 这个说 2019/12/13 就有 antibody 了， 那应该是 12 月初 就传染了， 跟武汉
差不多时间
【 在 jojoyz (jojoyz) 的大作中提到: 】
: 更早吧，不信允许检测之前流感大量死亡病人样本，肯定会有发现
李奇微肯定会说，武汉九十月份就有了。
然后再把谣言重复若干遍，你给任何证据她都视而不见。
这个 病毒起源好复杂，G7要好好查一下
【 在 ABCHBC (小李飛飝刀) 的大作中提到: 】
: 李奇微肯定会说，武汉九十月份就有了。
: 然后再把谣言重复若干遍，你给任何证据她都视而不见。
会不会最后追查到巨巨下的命令，给安个反人类罪？
意大利10月初就抗体，美国不肯查更早的，心虚着呢。。。
CNN预见到8月巨巨要王者归来，在给巨巨挖坑
这篇文章明显就是打下埋伏，为三个月后的报告铺垫一下。毕竟美国恢复经济抑制通胀需要中国的帮助。
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/
: index.html
: NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in
: December 2019
: By Maggie Fox, CNN
: Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04
: (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating
: at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
不只是日期，还有比例
检测了9个州数千份样本， 9个州全部发现抗体。按比例当时美国有几百万人有抗体
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】
: cnn 这个说 2019/12/13 就有 antibody 了， 那应该是 12 月初 就传染了， 跟武汉
: 差不多时间
我记得2019年冬天很多孩子都病得很厉害
JB彻查疮巨投毒
JB把疮巨钉死在十字架上
毒轮孕奉疮巨为圣轮子
传疮轮经
电子烟致病谎言要被揭穿了
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/
: index.html
: NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in
: December 2019
: By Maggie Fox, CNN
: Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04
: (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating
: at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
大利不争气，提早到11月
我帝不调整时间线就对不上了
武毒所泄露是9-10月间
小将不是造谣美国的溯源研究被叫停了吗？这么快就自打耳光了？
"Among the first 12 known cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in the United States, the earliest recognized symptoms onset date was January 14, 2020, and all
12 cases had recently traveled to mainland China or were close contacts of
recent travelers. Domestic testing for SARS-CoV-2 began in mid-January 2020," they added.
拿证据来，李佳佳个傻逼扎针还是扎到美帝头上来了。
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】
: 武毒所泄露是9-10月间
看来我怀疑得过新冠完全正确了。。
人得敏感啊
你不要只读你想读的部分
At the time. the federal government only recommended testing people with
symptoms who had a history of travel, or direct contact with a traveler.
These findings suggest that policy missed cases, the researchers said.
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】
: "Among the first 12 known cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in the United
States
: , the earliest recognized symptoms onset date was January 14, 2020, and
all
: 12 cases had recently traveled to mainland China or were close contacts of: recent travelers. Domestic testing for SARS-CoV-2 began in mid-January
2020,
: " they added.
The researchers took care to make sure they did not get false positives on
the antibody tests, and tested each sample twice. Nonetheless, they said, it's possible the tests detected pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses that
happened to randomly create antibodies to the 2019 coronavirus. Four other
coronaviruses regularly infect people, causing common cold symptoms.
果然不出所料啊。。。
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】
: 武毒所泄露是9-10月间
武汉和世卫的调查也是这样啊，武汉早期有7万份疑似流感的病例，结果只测了其中69
个有新冠症状的病例的血样，然后说这69份病例血样的抗体都是阴性。
武汉多测一些早期的血样，100%可以找出比官方通报的12月初更早的新冠。
【 在 kz80 (慢枪手) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你不要只读你想读的部分
: At the time. the federal government only recommended testing people with
: symptoms who had a history of travel, or direct contact with a traveler.
: These findings suggest that policy missed cases, the researchers said.
: States
: all
: 2020,
被你说中了
【 在 ABCHBC (小李飛飝刀) 的大作中提到: 】
: 果然不出所料啊。。。
武汉现在能知道的首例都已经到了11月一号了， 九月泄漏， 12月传到别的国家很正常，
【 在 ABCHBC (小李飛飝刀) 的大作中提到: 】
: 果然不出所料啊。。。
武汉的实际传播肯定大大早于官方承认的12月初啊，首例不是一个常年在家根本没有海鲜市场接触史和旅游史的普通老人吗？世界各国美国意大利都在积极溯源，也不在意把本国发现的首例时间线前推，只有中国不溯源不研究捂盖子，这个就是典型的凶手心态。
【 在 kz80 (慢枪手) 的大作中提到: 】
: 被你说中了
五毛觉得跟救命稻草似的。
12月美国就有零星感染不正常么，武汉有班机直飞美国。
中国自己报的零号病人，足不出户，12/8就发病了，这个人能感染，说明中国早就传开了，最后发现也是因为医院已经出现挤兑了。这个病有个特征就是感染高峰期，医院必出现“挤兑”，哪个国家都经历过。中国根本解释不了为啥其他国家都爆在武汉之后。
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/
: index.html
: NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in
: December 2019
: By Maggie Fox, CNN
: Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04
: (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating
: at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
It can be difficult to distinguish antibodies that neutralize SARS-CoV-2,
the virus that causes COVID-19, from antibodies that fight other
coronaviruses, including some that cause the common cold. Researchers in
both the NIH and CDC studies used multiple types of tests to minimize false positive results, but some experts say it still is possible their 2019
positives were infections by other coronaviruses and not the pandemic strain
.
属实，抗体阳性不等于感染新冠病毒。
【 在 SLE (嗯，就这样定了。) 的大作中提到: 】
: It can be difficult to distinguish antibodies that neutralize SARS-CoV-2, : the virus that causes COVID-19, from antibodies that fight other
: coronaviruses, including some that cause the common cold. Researchers in
: both the NIH and CDC studies used multiple types of tests to minimize
false
: positive results, but some experts say it still is possible their 2019
: positives were infections by other coronaviruses and not the pandemic
strain
: .
Tests of 24,000 samples taken in early
2020 showed antibodies to coronavirus in the blood of at least nine people,
------------------------------------------
24000个样本里测出9例，比例很低啊。而且是early 2020.
可以直接注射100吨新冠病毒吗？
【 在 srx(srx) 的大作中提到: 】
: 会不会最后追查到巨巨下的命令，给安个反人类罪？
这个抗体检查就不是一个精确的测试方式， 前端的时间什么18年的下水道阳性也应该
是一样的测试方式
再往前查，查到2019上半年，结果会更让人惊喜。
其实，国内大部分人早已经认定美国才是毒源。
上海并没有，莫非武汉去美国的人比去上海，北京，深圳的还多？LOL
【在 mynight01(一束星光)的大作中提到：】
：五毛觉得跟救命稻草似的。
：12月美国就有零星感染不正常么，武汉有班机直飞美国。
动不动就说别人是5毛，其实你自己是一头最大的五毛。住在一个鸟不拉屎的地方，找
不到工作，只能做5毛了
【 在 mynight01 (一束星光) 的大作中提到: 】
: 五毛觉得跟救命稻草似的。
: 12月美国就有零星感染不正常么，武汉有班机直飞美国。
: 中国自己报的零号病人，足不出户，12/8就发病了，这个人能感染，说明中国早就传开
: 了，最后发现也是因为医院已经出现挤兑了。这个病有个特征就是感染高峰期，医院必
: 出现“挤兑”，哪个国家都经历过。中国根本解释不了为啥其他国
★ 发自iPhone App: ChinaWeb 1.1.5
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】
: Tests of 24,000 samples taken in early
: 2020 showed antibodies to coronavirus in the blood of at least nine people,
: ------------------------------------------
: 24000个样本里测出9例，比例很低啊。而且是early 2020.
"at least"是至少的意思
lol
相当于在武汉是差不多是4000人接触过病毒
按中国标准，绝对算是极其严重的疫情
不要跟狸鸡萎（aka: 柴0- 绝经大妈）辩论，浪费时间。
应该说，不要跟这些1450台巴独运轮浪费时间
【 在 ABCHBC (小李飛飝刀) 的大作中提到: 】
: 李奇微肯定会说，武汉九十月份就有了。
: 然后再把谣言重复若干遍，你给任何证据她都视而不见。
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】
: 武毒所泄露是9-10月间
发现在威斯康星，密西西比这些土逼地方，基本就是当地物种，不是输入。输入肯定先到大地方。
【 在 Wagyu(瓦古) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不只是日期，还有比例
: 检测了9个州数千份样本， 9个州全部发现抗体。按比例当时美国有几百万人有
抗体
我女儿也是在南加州，咳嗽，很难受，当时去urgent care，医生安慰说不是白喉就回
家了
【 在 initid (星辰) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我记得2019年冬天很多孩子都病得很厉害
【 在 ptql (Query) 的大作中提到: 】
: 武汉现在能知道的首例都已经到了11月一号了， 九月泄漏， 12月传到别的国家很正常，
没证据，我还说你老母家5、6月份就有了呢。
张口造谣，其谁不会？
要是武汉11月1日有病例，那么三天翻一倍，到12月1日是1024例，到1月1日就是上百万例。
1月23日武汉封城。1月23日距离11月1日是84天，2^(84/3)= 2.68亿。
这个病，就算1%的死亡率，1月份应该死了200-300多万了。
事实上，病毒什么出现的的，我们不知道，但是什么时候死了第一例病人，是清楚确凿的——武汉的第一例新冠死亡是 2020年1月10日！
武汉不测而已，要测100%可以测出更早的抗体。世卫抱怨中国不肯提供武汉早期血液样本供检测。
世卫调查时，武汉拿了7万份病例，最后只测了其中69个有新冠症状的血样，抗体都是
阴性。你要是把7万份血样都测一遍，我敢保证肯定有少数阳性的。当然也有可能是假
阳性或者其他原因导致。
【 在 wewill2009 (daluobe) 的大作中提到: 】
: "at least"是至少的意思
: lol
: 相当于在武汉是差不多是4000人接触过病毒
: 按中国标准，绝对算是极其严重的疫情
antibody很难说。美国有那么多保留流感拭子的样本，测这个才有意义。https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2008646
这篇文章至少说明了，至少在PNW，2月前没有流行起来。2月后一开始流行的都和第一
个来自武汉的病例同源。
2019年底，美国好多人得了严重流感，医生宣称是猪流感，但是怎么吃Tamiflu 也不好，死了不少人。其实就是新冠。
【 在 jojoyz (jojoyz) 的大作中提到: 】
: 更早吧，不信允许检测之前流感大量死亡病人样本，肯定会有发现
2019年，中国流感人数是之前4年的总和，其实就是新冠。
【 在 forenzhang (fye) 的大作中提到: 】
: 2019年底，美国好多人得了严重流感，医生宣称是猪流感，但是怎么吃Tamiflu 也不好
: ，死了不少人。其实就是新冠。
I saw the same information on msnbc and foxnewshttps://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/covid-19-virus-illinois-massachusetts-states-reported-cases#&_intcmp=hp1r_10,hp1r
大家一起来念，“拿钱发帖死全家”。
【 在 DaGe1 (未明大哥) 的大作中提到: 】
: 动不动就说别人是5毛，其实你自己是一头最大的五毛。住在一个鸟不拉屎的地方，找
: 不到工作，只能做5毛了
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChinaWeb 1.1.5
念过的你以后就不说人家是五毛？
【 在 mynight01 (一束星光) 的大作中提到: 】
: 大家一起来念，“拿钱发帖死全家”。
: 【 在 DaGe1 (未明大哥) 的大作中提到: 】
: : 动不动就说别人是5毛，其实你自己是一头最大的五毛。住在一个鸟不拉屎的地方
，找
: : 不到工作，只能做5毛了
这样的结论,美国人能接受,但台湾人是万万不能接受,无法接受。。。
看这架势是要把锅扣到巨巨头上吗？巨巨冤啊
新冠病毒不怎么影响孩子吧？
【 在 initid (星辰) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我记得2019年冬天很多孩子都病得很厉害
+1
能理解理念不同，但不能容忍拿钱发帖和专职认知作战的垃圾
【 在 mynight01 (一束星光) 的大作中提到: 】
: 大家一起来念，“拿钱发帖死全家”。
其实这些愿意提供血样参与研究的人本身可能就是偏见样品。要是当时中国全国范围内这样采样结果未必比这严重。
2019下半年，带小孩看医生，顺表聊了一下流感疫苗，医生说打不打没多大区别，最近两年大约20%的有效率。
【 在 forenzhang (fye) 的大作中提到: 】
: 2019年底，美国好多人得了严重流感，医生宣称是猪流感，但是怎么吃Tamiflu 也不好
: ，死了不少人。其实就是新冠。
然鹅你回复的这个星光，当年非说三十九个惨死越南偷渡客是中国人，说越南政府之所以承认是越南人是因为中国买通了越南政府，凡有异议都被她骂是五毛，事后她跟没事一样死皮赖脸在这里混。对了，去年她还说聚聚会当选，各种有病言论，结果硬生生给她把聚聚咒下去。我看她才是五毛在反串认知作战，来败坏海外异议人士形象的。
【 在 busted (busted) 的大作中提到: 】
: +1
: 能理解理念不同，但不能容忍拿钱发帖和专职认知作战的垃圾
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】
: 武汉不测而已，要测100%可以测出更早的抗体。世卫抱怨中国不肯提供武汉早期血液样
: 本供检测。
: 世卫调查时，武汉拿了7万份病例，最后只测了其中69个有新冠症状的血样，抗体都是
: 阴性。你要是把7万份血样都测一遍，我敢保证肯定有少数阳性的。当然也有可能是假
: 阳性或者其他原因导致。
无论你怎么说，4000人按武汉的标准也是极其严重的疫情
【 在 wewill2009 (daluobe) 的大作中提到: 】
: "at least"是至少的意思
: lol
: 相当于在武汉是差不多是4000人接触过病毒
: 按中国标准，绝对算是极其严重的疫情
腥胱是来军版过性生活的， 不要太苛刻人家
【 在 DaGe1 (未明大哥) 的大作中提到: 】
: 动不动就说别人是5毛，其实你自己是一头最大的五毛。住在一个鸟不拉屎的地方，找
: 不到工作，只能做5毛了
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChinaWeb 1.1.5
2019-2020 流感病人样本几千份，华盛顿大学已经做过核酸检测了，只有在 2020年2月之后的样本里才发现新冠病毒。
【 在 jojoyz (jojoyz) 的大作中提到: 】
: 更早吧，不信允许检测之前流感大量死亡病人样本，肯定会有发现
抗体检测有假阳性率，可以参看任何抗体检测方法的说明书。
其它冠状病毒造成的抗体，都可以被当成新冠病毒抗体。普通流感里就有冠状病毒。
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/
: index.html
: NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in
: December 2019
: By Maggie Fox, CNN
: Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04
: (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating
: at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
给你看看腥胱的本色
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/Military/56133395_0.html
发信人: mynight (一束星光), 信区: Military
标 题: Re: 国人怕死, 但死亡来临的时候表现很伟大
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 4 23:24:57 2020, 美东)
邪教徒个个都不怕死。
【 在 Bifujian (哈哈儿) 的大作中提到: 】
: 那些成千上万奔赴疫区的医护人员,还有很多基层的工作人员,干警,都是冒着生命威胁
: 尽职尽责.如果没有这些视死如归,勇敢奉献的大多数中国人,中国早就灭国灭族多少次
: 了.一个民族能有着几千年的历史,从一次一次灾难打击中重新站起来不是偶然的, 靠的
: 其实就是这样一群人.
【 在 busted (busted) 的大作中提到: 】
: +1
: 能理解理念不同，但不能容忍拿钱发帖和专职认知作战的垃圾
【 在 Seventy6 (走着瞧，瞧着走) 的大作中提到: 】
: 抗体检测有假阳性率，可以参看任何抗体检测方法的说明书。
也有假阴性
: 其它冠状病毒造成的抗体，都可以被当成新冠病毒抗体。
：普通流感里就有冠状病毒。
流感病毒是冠状病毒？？？？？？你这是完全瞎扯吧？
据我从前的阅读：冠状病毒有不少种，但是对人有害的只有7种左右；流感不在其中。
【 在 Seventy6 (走着瞧，瞧着走) 的大作中提到: 】
: 2019-2020 流感病人样本几千份，华盛顿大学已经做过核酸检测了，只有在 2020年2月
: 之后的样本里才发现新冠病毒。
很奇怪。这个应该是CDC做。现在这个24000和一年前的7000都是CDC做的，上次有红十
字会和私家公司参与。华盛顿大学的人顶多会是参与者。
能给个source吗？
Nonetheless, they said, it
's possible the tests detected pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses that
happened to randomly create antibodies to the 2019 coronavirus. Four other
coronaviruses regularly infect people, causing common cold symptoms.
这个验证起来非常简单，把已知的4种引起普通感冒的coronaviruses 的S蛋白和N蛋白
做和covid19一样的抗体检测试剂，如果都是阳性说明这些阳性病人产生抗体对普通感
冒的coronaviruses非特异性，如果只有covid19试剂检测阳性，说明不是什么普通感冒的coronaviruses引起的抗体，就是得了covid19.非常简单可靠的检测。
哥早说了
共产党员李文良吹的是美国的丧哨
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/
: index.html
: NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in
: December 2019
: By Maggie Fox, CNN
: Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04
: (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating
: at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
现在（美，中， 意）都查到12月， 谁往前查谁倒霉。
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/
: index.html
: NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in
: December 2019
: By Maggie Fox, CNN
: Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04
: (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating
: at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
Frozen blood samples indicate people in five states -- Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Mississippi and Massachusetts
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没敢检查里德堡实验室更近的弗吉利亚州，DC，和马里兰的血液样本。真相呼之欲出啊！
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SB独运轮台巴港灿特地申个小号上来瞎BB
【 在 bldslk () 的大作中提到: 】
: vhttps://youtu.be/EFM85o7JDKo
: vhttps://youtu.be/l_w8WynhyKc
: vhttps://youtu.be/bmntDg_wdwE
: vhttps://youtu.be/zyzsKSaXmtQ
: vhttps://youtu.be/EFM85o7JDKo
: vhttps://youtu.be/l_w8WynhyKc
: vhttps://youtu.be/bmntDg_wdwE
: vhttps://youtu.be/zyzsKSaXmtQ
: vhttps://youtu.be/EFM85o7JDKo
: vhttps://youtu.be/l_w8WynhyKc
: ...................
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五矛，邪恶政权制造病毒，隐瞒疫情，祸害全球。
无法甩锅。如果先在别的地方爆发，全球早就毁灭了。
【 在 jojoyz (jojoyz) 的大作中提到: 】
: 更早吧，不信允许检测之前流感大量死亡病人样本，肯定会有发现
书早就说过，新冠就是我弟搞的生物战，某堡事故流出，然后投毒武汉。
【 在 Qiguoji (我是个清纯的猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/health/coronavirus-all-of-us-blood-survey/
: index.html
: NIH researchers find more evidence Covid was circulating in the US in
: December 2019
: By Maggie Fox, CNN
: Updated 9:00 AM ET, Tue June 15, 2021
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins
: US intelligence working on report about Covid-19 origins 04:04
: (CNN)Researchers have found more evidence that coronavirus was circulating
: at low levels across the United States as early as December 2019 -- weeks : ...................
义大力血样抗体阳性推到2019年9月 （大力SCI文章早已发了，WHO正在重新检查。）
序列推到2019年11月10日
中国倒是想往前推，无奈没数据，无处可推。
美国是推到2019年12月，不肯再推了
【 在 kli1 (mia) 的大作中提到: 】
: 现在（美，中， 意）都查到12月， 谁往前查谁倒霉。
狸鸡萎，这些1450台蛙贱畜。
【 在 wsn01(第一号猥琐男) 的大作中提到: 】
: 义大力血样抗体阳性推到2019年9月 （大力SCI文章早已发了，WHO正在重新检查。）
: 序列推到2019年11月10日
: 中国倒是想往前推，无奈没数据，无处可推。
: 美国是推到2019年12月，不肯再推了
twitter上老外看到这个新闻很多人都能理性分析
只有上面几个SB独运轮为了舔自己美爹还在各种嘴硬，成天被喂屎还只能说很香，真可悲的人生
补充下，
以任何形式带任务发贴，不管拿钱不拿钱，全家出门遭雷劈遭车撞
【 在 mynight01 (一束星光) 的大作中提到: 】
: 大家一起来念，“拿钱发帖死全家”。
+1
专职认知作战的，是非常恶毒的，vicious! 人人得而诛之
【 在 busted (busted) 的大作中提到: 】
: +1
: 能理解理念不同，但不能容忍拿钱发帖和专职认知作战的垃圾
我记得这个检测的收集，是仅仅在华盛顿州的一个小区域内，自愿接受流感检测，你把这么小范围的结论推广到全美国？那是不是你家有人得了新冠死了，占你家1/3，那推
广到全美就是1/3美国人死于新冠？
【 在 Seventy6 (走着瞧，瞧着走) 的大作中提到: 】
: 2019-2020 流感病人样本几千份，华盛顿大学已经做过核酸检测了，只有在 2020年2月
: 之后的样本里才发现新冠病毒。
PCR尸体更准些!!
【 在 ptql (Query) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这个抗体检查就不是一个精确的测试方式， 前端的时间什么18年的下水道阳性也应该
: 是一样的测试方式
我记得这个所谓检测样本收集是在华盛顿州的一个小区域内，由流感病人自愿提供的样本。哈，在统计学里，这个叫什么？把这个小区域自愿者的检测结果推广到全美，你认为可靠么？
【 在 wewill2009 (daluobe) 的大作中提到: 】
: 很奇怪。这个应该是CDC做。现在这个24000和一年前的7000都是CDC做的，上次有红十
: 字会和私家公司参与。华盛顿大学的人顶多会是参与者。
: 能给个source吗？
和军运会连上了
和军运会连上了
和军运会连上了
【 在 I23 (嘿嘿) 的大作中提到: 】
: 哥早说了
: 共产党员李文良吹的是美国的丧哨
+1
专职认知作战的是邪恶的，vicious! 人人得而诛之。
【 在 busted (busted) 的大作中提到: 】
: +1
: 能理解理念不同，但不能容忍拿钱发帖和专职认知作战的垃圾
对了，我还记起来，这个检测是在3月2日华盛顿州的柯克兰老人院发生疫情后，去检测由当地流感病人自愿提供的样品来了解最早的新冠病毒感染者，结论是在二月之前并没有检测到新冠病毒。请注意，这个检测样品来源是当地范围内的自愿提供样品的流感患者，并非所有到医院就诊的流感患者检测试样。这个结论连推广到华盛顿州都不行，更不用说推广到全美了！
【 在 wewill2009 (daluobe) 的大作中提到: 】
: 很奇怪。这个应该是CDC做。现在这个24000和一年前的7000都是CDC做的，上次有红十
: 字会和私家公司参与。华盛顿大学的人顶多会是参与者。
: 能给个source吗？
+1
补充下，应该是任何形式带任务发贴的，全家出门遭车撞死光
【 在 mynight01 (一束星光) 的大作中提到: 】
: 大家一起来念，“拿钱发帖死全家”。
【 在 papaJohns (pizza) 的大作中提到: 】
: +1
: 补充下，应该是任何形式带任务发贴的，全家出门遭车撞死光
五毛死全家
是 我家老二班上一半都回家休息过
【 在 initid (星辰) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我记得2019年冬天很多孩子都病得很厉害
没传给家长，祖父母？没有人因此死亡么？
没有，那算什么新冠！
只有源自武汉的病毒才会造成大批病人死亡，那个才是真正的新冠。其他都是中共胡搅蛮缠的玩意。
【 在 baal (白日梦) 的大作中提到: 】
: 是 我家老二班上一半都回家休息过
中国怎么会没有数据？世卫说中国不肯提供武汉早期志愿者需苦供检测，明明是做贼心虚。
【在 wsn01(第一号猥琐男)的大作中提到：】
：义大力血样抗体阳性推到2019年9月 （大力SCI文章早已发了，WHO正在重新检查。）：序列推到2019年11月10日
不是没敢检查，是查了没有。
【在 piggybank(没钱的小猪猪)的大作中提到：】
：Frozen blood samples indicate people in five states -- Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Mississippi and Massachusetts
：@@@@@@@@@@
用这个方法测测全中国19年1297之前的血样。只要测的数量足够大，肯定会有一些阳性的。
【在 gopher1(gopher)的大作中提到：】
：Nonetheless, they said, it
：'s possible the tests detected pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses that
美国只查到12月，之前的不查了。
【 在 ridgwaymj (ridgwaymj) 的大作中提到: 】
: 用这个方法测测全中国19年12�9�7之前的血样。只要测的数量足够大，肯定会有一些阳
: 性的。
: ：Nonetheless, they said, it
: ：'s possible the tests detected pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses
: that
什么叫不查，是查了没有，还是不让查？证据？
中国拒绝向世卫提供武汉早期血液样本是世卫写进正式报告的。
【 在 simadong (simadong) 的大作中提到: 】
: 美国只查到12月，之前的不查了。
: ，肯定会有一些阳
允许检测武汉和中国之前流感大量死亡病人样本，肯定会有发现。
【 在 jojoyz (jojoyz) 的大作中提到: 】
: 更早吧，不信允许检测之前流感大量死亡病人样本，肯定会有发现
你丫放屁！
【 在 ridgway (ridgway) 的大作中提到: 】
: 2019年，中国流感人数是之前4年的总和，其实就是新冠。
2019年上半年中国流感病例超过去4年总和
根据中国疾病预防控制中心统计数据发现，2019年1-6月全国共报告流感病例191万，死亡279例，几乎是过去五年的流感上报人数总和（193万）。
【 在 SidRat (I am Sid .) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你丫放屁！
武汉距离周边的城市和省份难道比美国更远？
这厮真的很下贱，猪油蒙了心，说话如同放屁！
【 在 solarlight (MC重金属愚公) 的大作中提到: 】
: 上海并没有，莫非武汉去美国的人比去上海，北京，深圳的还多？LOL
: ：五毛觉得跟救命稻草似的。
: ：12月美国就有零星感染不正常么，武汉有班机直飞美国。