Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab
Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday with National Geographic.
“If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] evolved in nature and then jumped species,” Fauci says. Based on the scientific evidence, he also doesn’t entertain an alternate theory—that someone found the coronavirus in the wild, brought it to a lab, and then it accidentally escaped.
有良知的人看不下去了 巨巨这个烂人 【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】 : http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/ : Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab : Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious : Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians : and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday : with National Geographic. : “If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now : , [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could : not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about : the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] : ...................
【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】 : http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/ : Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab : Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious : Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians : and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday : with National Geographic. : “If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now : , [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could : not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about : the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] : ...................
There is no current evidence to suggest that coronavirus leaked from a Chinese research laboratory, intelligence sources have told the Guardian, contradicting recent White House claims that there is growing proof this is how the pandemic began.
The sources also insisted that a “15-page dossier” highlighted by the Australian Daily Telegraph which accused China of a deadly cover up was not culled from intelligence from the Five Eyes network, an alliance between theUK, US, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.
British and other Five Eyes agencies do believe that Beijing has not necessarily been open about how coronavirus initially spread in Wuhan at theturn of the year. But they are nervous about getting involved in an escalating international situation.
On Sunday Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, said: “I can tell you that there is a significant amount of evidence that this came from that laboratory in Wuhan.”
【 在 beijingren3 () 的大作中提到: 】 : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/five-eyes-network- contradicts- : theory-covid-19-leaked-from-lab : There is no current evidence to suggest that coronavirus leaked from a : Chinese research laboratory, intelligence sources have told the Guardian, : contradicting recent White House claims that there is growing proof this is : how the pandemic began. : The sources also insisted that a “15-page dossier” highlighted by the : Australian Daily Telegraph which accused China of a deadly cover up was not : culled from intelligence from the Five Eyes network, an alliance between the : UK, US, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. : ...................
【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】 : http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/ : Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab : Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious : Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians : and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday : with National Geographic. : “If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now : , [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could : not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about : the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] : ...................
【 在 comeandgo 的大作中提到: 】 : :废话，伏羲还能能怎么说？给武毒所三百万刀RO1是他亲手批的。 : : :【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】 :: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/ :: Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab :: Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and :Infectious :: Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians :: and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday :: with National Geographic.
UNDERSTANDING THE RISK OF BAT CORONAVIRUS EMERGENCE Award Number: R01AI110964 ORGANIZATION: NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY & INFECTIOUS DISEASES OPDIV: NIH AWARD CLASS: DISCRETIONARY AWARD ACTIVITY TYPE: SCIENTIFIC/HEALTH RESEARCH (INCLUDES SURVEYS)
【 在 mfnx (yxinar) 的大作中提到: 】 : 放屁，钱怎么会是他批。都是政府机构批的。 : : : :废话，伏羲还能能怎么说？给武毒所三百万刀RO1是他亲手批的。 : : : : : :【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】 : :: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/ : :: Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab: :: Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and : :Infectious : ...................
【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】 : http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/ : Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab : Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious : Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians : and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday : with National Geographic. : “If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now : , [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could : not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about : the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] : ...................
Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab
Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians
and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday
with National Geographic.
“If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus]
evolved in nature and then jumped species,” Fauci says. Based on the
scientific evidence, he also doesn’t entertain an alternate theory—that
someone found the coronavirus in the wild, brought it to a lab, and then it accidentally escaped.
這哥們準備好被解僱了？
有良知的人看不下去了 巨巨这个烂人
【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】
: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/
: Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab
: Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious
: Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians
: and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday
: with National Geographic.
: “If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there
now
: , [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this
could
: not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything
about
: the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus]
: ...................
Falci并没有和川普说不一样的话，他认为这个病毒不是制造出来的，是自然产生的，
但是没有排除在武汉实验室利有人玩蝙蝠不小心成了0号病人，而后者这种可能性是美
国相信的。我个人也相信这种说法，世界上研究蝙蝠最牛逼的实验室就在武汉，这个病又在武汉爆发, more than a coincidence
WHO和五眼情报也定论了
【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】
: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/
: Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab
: Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious
: Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians
: and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday
: with National Geographic.
: “If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there
now
: , [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this
could
: not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything
about
: the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus]
: ...................
Fauci也不认同lab泄漏的说法，看最后一段
【 在 linyuelegant(Linyuelegant) 的大作中提到: 】
: Falci并没有和川普说不一样的话，他认为这个病毒不是制造出来的，是自然产
生的，
: 但是没有排除在武汉实验室利有人玩蝙蝠不小心成了0号病人，而后者这种可能
性是美
: 国相信的。我个人也相信这种说法，世界上研究蝙蝠最牛逼的实验室就在武汉，这个病
: 又在武汉爆发, more than a coincidence
There is no current evidence to suggest that coronavirus leaked from a
Chinese research laboratory, intelligence sources have told the Guardian,
contradicting recent White House claims that there is growing proof this is
how the pandemic began.
The sources also insisted that a “15-page dossier” highlighted by the
Australian Daily Telegraph which accused China of a deadly cover up was not
culled from intelligence from the Five Eyes network, an alliance between theUK, US, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.
British and other Five Eyes agencies do believe that Beijing has not
necessarily been open about how coronavirus initially spread in Wuhan at theturn of the year. But they are nervous about getting involved in an
escalating international situation.
On Sunday Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, said: “I can tell you
that there is a significant amount of evidence that this came from that
laboratory in Wuhan.”
这个说法应该不成立。蝙蝠病毒跟人的差了1000个核苷酸。再变异也不会这么大。必然有中间宿主。
【 在 linyuelegant (Linyuelegant) 的大作中提到: 】
: Falci并没有和川普说不一样的话，他认为这个病毒不是制造出来的，是自然产生的，
: 但是没有排除在武汉实验室利有人玩蝙蝠不小心成了0号病人，而后者这种可能性是美
: 国相信的。我个人也相信这种说法，世界上研究蝙蝠最牛逼的实验室就在武汉，这个病
: 又在武汉爆发, more than a coincidence
當初也沒有證據 人傳人
【 在 beijingren3 () 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/five-eyes-network-
contradicts-
: theory-covid-19-leaked-from-lab
: There is no current evidence to suggest that coronavirus leaked from a
: Chinese research laboratory, intelligence sources have told the Guardian,
: contradicting recent White House claims that there is growing proof this
is
: how the pandemic began.
: The sources also insisted that a “15-page dossier” highlighted by the
: Australian Daily Telegraph which accused China of a deadly cover up was
not
: culled from intelligence from the Five Eyes network, an alliance between
the
: UK, US, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.
: ...................
废话，伏羲还能能怎么说？给武毒所三百万刀RO1是他亲手批的。
【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】
: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/
: Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab
: Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious
: Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians
: and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday
: with National Geographic.
: “If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there
now
: , [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this
could
: not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything
about
: the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus]
: ...................
估计发现是美国实验室泄露出去的.
怕追查，提前甩锅给自然界。
巨巨“人民公敌”的list上又多了一个
放屁，钱怎么会是他批。都是政府机构批的。
【 在 comeandgo 的大作中提到: 】
:
:废话，伏羲还能能怎么说？给武毒所三百万刀RO1是他亲手批的。
:
:
:【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】
:: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/
:: Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab
:: Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and
:Infectious
:: Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians
:: and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday :: with National Geographic.
科学家出来说一句良心话，兔崽子们立马想着怎么反咬一口
这帮兔崽子还真需要川普来对付
那是因为没有证据，证据被销毁了。所以在没有证据的情况下，就推不出那个结论。这就好比王健在法国摔死，法国警察看了看不像谋杀，因为没有谋杀和自杀的证据，于是就信了是不慎摔死，当天结案。
【 在 zibao (友谊花开万里香) 的大作中提到: 】
: Fauci也不认同lab泄漏的说法，看最后一段
:
: Falci并没有和川普说不一样的话，他认为这个病毒不是制造出来的，是自然产
: 生的，
:
: 但是没有排除在武汉实验室利有人玩蝙蝠不小心成了0号病人，而后者这种可能
: 性是美
:
: 国相信的。我个人也相信这种说法，世界上研究蝙蝠最牛逼的实验室就在武汉，
: 这个病
:
: 又在武汉爆发, more than a coincidence
:
有哪个权威医学杂志说这是人造的或是实验室泄露的？那就好比正好抓到一只蝙蝠
，而且这个蝙蝠还有冠状病毒可以传给人，那人还泄露到市场。这比被雷劈死的概率还小。
造谣真是上下两个嘴皮一碰就来。真正搞这个研究的多少还是有良知，明明一加一等于二的事，非说成三，是要被人笑话的。
说制造病毒？你让美国造一个看看？说泄露的，你看看有谁能逮一只这种蝙蝠的？还是那句话，这里喊口号的多，估计还是闲的。
没有证据你咋得出结论的呢？你找不到证据就说证据被销毁，你有证据说证据被销毁吗？还是因为没有证据所以证据被销毁了？
【 在 linyuelegant(Linyuelegant) 的大作中提到: 】
: 那是因为没有证据，证据被销毁了。所以在没有证据的情况下，就推不出那个结论。这
: 就好比王健在法国摔死，法国警察看了看不像谋杀，因为没有谋杀和自杀的证据，于是
: 就信了是不慎摔死，当天结案。
我对这些学术细节不懂，但是有两个事实:
1.武汉病毒所是世界上研究蝙蝠冠状病毒最牛逼的组，science nature随便发。
2.这个病最开始在武汉大爆发，而在中国湖北之外却没有。
这就好比你老婆生了个黑人孩子，这是你的孩子吗？我觉得不是，但是因为我没有你的DNA样本，所以我也没有证据。但是我知道两个事实：
1.这个孩子是你老婆生的，你和你老婆都是黄人
2.这个孩子是黑人
【 在 microyu (yu) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这个说法应该不成立。蝙蝠病毒跟人的差了1000个核苷酸。再变异也不会这么大。必然
: 有中间宿主。
这叫无罪推断，只要我没有看到病毒来自实验室的证据，我就认为这个病毒不来自实验室，坚持null hypothesis就是自然演化而来。
【 在 zibao (友谊花开万里香) 的大作中提到: 】
: 没有证据你咋得出结论的呢？你找不到证据就说证据被销毁，你有证据说证据被销毁吗
: ？还是因为没有证据所以证据被销毁了？
:
: 那是因为没有证据，证据被销毁了。所以在没有证据的情况下，就推不出那个结
: 论。这
:
: 就好比王健在法国摔死，法国警察看了看不像谋杀，因为没有谋杀和自杀的证据
: ，于是
:
: 就信了是不慎摔死，当天结案。
:
如果实验室都培养不出来（基因改造，诱导变异，杂交，细胞/动物筛选，等等自然和
非自然手段），自然进化出来的概率有多大？
文章和研究课题显示五毒所一直在致力于把蝙蝠身上的病毒进化到可以跨物种包括人类的感染的研究。
现在没有证据明病毒来自武汉实验室并不是说能排除病毒来自武汉实验室的可能。
自然起源的证据更没有，怎么可以忘下科学论断？
NIH的纲目给了NIAID，而NIAID的主任是Fauci.
http://taggs.hhs.gov/Detail/AwardDetail?arg_AwardNum=R01AI110964&arg_ProgOfficeCode=104
UNDERSTANDING THE RISK OF BAT CORONAVIRUS EMERGENCE
Award Number: R01AI110964
ORGANIZATION: NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY & INFECTIOUS DISEASES
OPDIV: NIH
AWARD CLASS: DISCRETIONARY
AWARD ACTIVITY TYPE: SCIENTIFIC/HEALTH RESEARCH (INCLUDES SURVEYS)
NIAID外包给生态健康联盟，生态健康联盟又外包给石正丽（石正丽和生态健康联盟的
主席是十几年的老相识了）。
虽然有个中间环节，但是你叫Fauci去撇清关系？
非要Fauci说，我特么是病毒改造总监么？
【 在 mfnx (yxinar) 的大作中提到: 】
: 放屁，钱怎么会是他批。都是政府机构批的。
: :
: :废话，伏羲还能能怎么说？给武毒所三百万刀RO1是他亲手批的。
: :
: :
: :【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】
: :: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/
: :: Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab: :: Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and
: :Infectious
: ...................
对中国就搞有罪推断，对美国就搞无罪推断
这就是你们傻逼双标汉奸慕洋犬的标准操作
【 在 linyuelegant (Linyuelegant) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这叫无罪推断，只要我没有看到病毒来自实验室的证据，我就认为这个病毒不来自实验
: 室，坚持null hypothesis就是自然演化而来。
中国要有这能力，西方就得跪了，还敢索赔
人心散了，队伍不好带了
新冠病毒一定是人为设计出来的，大自然不可能进化出如此狡猾的病毒
人类自诞生起就跟冠状病毒家族共存，几百万年了
在2003年SARS出现之前，人类只发现了4种冠状病毒
但20年不到已经出现了3种新的冠状病毒，特别是出现了像新冠病毒这样厉害的病毒
在人类的历史上，没有任何一次“瘟疫”的情形跟这次相近
所以，包括SARS在内，21世纪出现的这三种新的冠状病毒都是人为设计出来的
但中国绝无这样的能力，中国现在连设计出SARS这种级别病毒的能力都没有
水必定很深。让进化论背锅，是最妥当的办法。
【 在 freeangle (努力做个老将的资深小将) 的大作中提到: 】
: 估计发现是美国实验室泄露出去的.
: 怕追查，提前甩锅给自然界。
基本的黑臉白臉遊戲而已
【 在 desesperado (desesperada) 的大作中提到: 】
: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/
: Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab
: Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious
: Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians
: and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday
: with National Geographic.
: “If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there
now
: , [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this
could
: not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything
about
: the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus]
: ...................
要这么算，那是破疮批的buget, 源头是破疮。
【 在 ACE2 (能杀新冠，还能喝的，唯有开水！) 的大作中提到: 】
: NIH的纲目给了NIAID，而NIAID的主任是Fauci.
: http://taggs.hhs.gov/Detail/AwardDetail?arg_AwardNum=R01AI110964&arg_ProgOfficeCode=104
: UNDERSTANDING THE RISK OF BAT CORONAVIRUS EMERGENCE
: Award Number: R01AI110964
: ORGANIZATION: NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY & INFECTIOUS DISEASES
: OPDIV: NIH
: AWARD CLASS: DISCRETIONARY
: AWARD ACTIVITY TYPE: SCIENTIFIC/HEALTH RESEARCH (INCLUDES SURVEYS)
: NIAID外包给生态健康联盟，生态健康联盟又外包给石正丽（石正丽和生态健康联盟的
: 主席是十几年的老相识了）。
: ...................
cdc的左叉时刻不忘反川
麻痹的直接证据没有，间接证据一箩筐
奥巴驴
【 在 mfnx (yxinar) 的大作中提到: 】
: 要这么算，那是破疮批的buget, 源头是破疮。
我说的就是fauci对中国搞无罪推断，川普对中国搞有罪推断，是有区别的。fauci这种人更公平一点。
【 在 greendot (清风抚山岗) 的大作中提到: 】
: 对中国就搞有罪推断，对美国就搞无罪推断
: 这就是你们傻逼双标汉奸慕洋犬的标准操作
【 在 ACE2 (能杀新冠，还能喝的，唯有开水！) 的大作中提到: 】
: NIH的纲目给了NIAID，而NIAID的主任是Fauci.
: http://taggs.hhs.gov/Detail/AwardDetail?arg_AwardNum=R01AI110964&arg_ProgOfficeCode=104
: UNDERSTANDING THE RISK OF BAT CORONAVIRUS EMERGENCE
: Award Number: R01AI110964
: ORGANIZATION: NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY & INFECTIOUS DISEASES
: OPDIV: NIH
: AWARD CLASS: DISCRETIONARY
: AWARD ACTIVITY TYPE: SCIENTIFIC/HEALTH RESEARCH (INCLUDES SURVEYS)
: NIAID外包给生态健康联盟，生态健康联盟又外包给石正丽（石正丽和生态健康联盟的
: 主席是十几年的老相识了）。
: ...................
Fauci和五毒所隔了几条街的关系都能被你扯起来
台巴和美国政府勾结这么明显，现在急于甩锅的美国政府用台巴的阴谋论打中国却应该是真实可信的？
老将的双标真是不断突破下限。你们每天这样不用脑子的活都不会有一点羞耻吗？