The NIAID said Wednesday afternoon that a preliminary data analysis of the trial data from 1,063 patients found patients taking the drug recovered 31% faster than those taking the placebo. In remdesivir patients, the median time to recovery was 11 days. In placebo patients, it was 15 days.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIAID's director, told reporters at the White House that remdesivir had "a clear cut significant positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery." He said the mortality rate was lower in the remdesivir group (8%), when compared with those taking the placebo (11%), noting that it's not yet a statistically significant finding. However, he further cemented his support for the remdesivir data, saying "this will be the standard of care."
福气谈话视频。 【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】 : The NIAID said Wednesday afternoon that a preliminary data analysis of the : trial data from 1,063 patients found patients taking the drug recovered 31% : faster than those taking the placebo. In remdesivir patients, the median : time to recovery was 11 days. In placebo patients, it was 15 days. : Dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIAID's director, told reporters at the White House : that remdesivir had "a clear cut significant positive effect in diminishing : the time to recovery." He said the mortality rate was lower in the : remdesivir group (8%), when compared with those taking the placebo (11%), : noting that it's not yet a statistically significant finding. However, he : further cemented his support for the remdesivir data, saying "this will be : ...................
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】 : The NIAID said Wednesday afternoon that a preliminary data analysis of the : trial data from 1,063 patients found patients taking the drug recovered 31% : faster than those taking the placebo. In remdesivir patients, the median : time to recovery was 11 days. In placebo patients, it was 15 days. : Dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIAID's director, told reporters at the White House : that remdesivir had "a clear cut significant positive effect in diminishing : the time to recovery." He said the mortality rate was lower in the : remdesivir group (8%), when compared with those taking the placebo (11%), : noting that it's not yet a statistically significant finding. However, he : further cemented his support for the remdesivir data, saying "this will be : ...................
一个老药,被试验很多次,从来没效果。 ”the drug failed a number of real-life tests — not just against hepatitis but also against Ebola in Africa. The drug languished, unapproved for any use “
说是人民的希望,不如说 股市伟哥。
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】 : The NIAID said Wednesday afternoon that a preliminary data analysis of the : trial data from 1,063 patients found patients taking the drug recovered 31% : faster than those taking the placebo. In remdesivir patients, the median : time to recovery was 11 days. In placebo patients, it was 15 days. : Dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIAID's director, told reporters at the White House : that remdesivir had "a clear cut significant positive effect in diminishing : the time to recovery." He said the mortality rate was lower in the : remdesivir group (8%), when compared with those taking the placebo (11%), : noting that it's not yet a statistically significant finding. However, he : further cemented his support for the remdesivir data, saying "this will be : ...................
The NIAID said Wednesday afternoon that a preliminary data analysis of the
trial data from 1,063 patients found patients taking the drug recovered 31% faster than those taking the placebo. In remdesivir patients, the median
time to recovery was 11 days. In placebo patients, it was 15 days.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIAID's director, told reporters at the White House
that remdesivir had "a clear cut significant positive effect in diminishing the time to recovery." He said the mortality rate was lower in the
remdesivir group (8%), when compared with those taking the placebo (11%),
noting that it's not yet a statistically significant finding. However, he
further cemented his support for the remdesivir data, saying "this will be
the standard of care."
就是喝凉水15天恢复,吃神药11天恢复。
这个效果真的比中药强?
显然完全不如中药!
中药能提振美国股市么?
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这个效果真的比中药强?
: 显然完全不如中药!
能啊,关键是老美傻逼,看不到这一点
就想跟党妈同归于尽
【 在 sanguang (散光) 的大作中提到: 】
: 中药能提振美国股市么?
福气谈话视频。
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】
: The NIAID said Wednesday afternoon that a preliminary data analysis of the
: trial data from 1,063 patients found patients taking the drug recovered 31%
: faster than those taking the placebo. In remdesivir patients, the median
: time to recovery was 11 days. In placebo patients, it was 15 days.
: Dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIAID's director, told reporters at the White House
: that remdesivir had "a clear cut significant positive effect in
diminishing
: the time to recovery." He said the mortality rate was lower in the
: remdesivir group (8%), when compared with those taking the placebo (11%), : noting that it's not yet a statistically significant finding. However, he : further cemented his support for the remdesivir data, saying "this will be
: ...................
你这个解读完全是扯淡。屁股决定脑袋。
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】
: The NIAID said Wednesday afternoon that a preliminary data analysis of the
: trial data from 1,063 patients found patients taking the drug recovered 31%
: faster than those taking the placebo. In remdesivir patients, the median
: time to recovery was 11 days. In placebo patients, it was 15 days.
: Dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIAID's director, told reporters at the White House
: that remdesivir had "a clear cut significant positive effect in
diminishing
: the time to recovery." He said the mortality rate was lower in the
: remdesivir group (8%), when compared with those taking the placebo (11%), : noting that it's not yet a statistically significant finding. However, he : further cemented his support for the remdesivir data, saying "this will be
: ...................
谁说不是呢?
美国现在新冠死亡率5.7%
吃了神药,做出来结果8%。
这不是日狗吗?
【 在 qingtianbao () 的大作中提到: 】
: 你这个解读完全是扯淡。屁股决定脑袋。
: %
: diminishing
他的意思是这个药开了个头而已,不过病程缩短说明此药确实有抗病毒作用,但有一点很重要,他没有说是不是双盲的,不是的话无法排除安慰几效应
【 在 kuzi (万年潜水员) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVtLcdi9O70
: 福气谈话视频。
: %
: diminishing
这是个很好的思考题,看了你这贴,十秒钟之内看不出问题的,那就是脑子不够数。
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】
: 谁说不是呢?
: 美国现在新冠死亡率5.7%
: 吃了神药,做出来结果8%。
: 这不是日狗吗?
这个试验有对照,试验组8%对照组11%的死亡率,不过二者没有统计学意义上的差异
具体数据比如样本数量等不公布,目前应该也看不出来更多的东西吧
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】
: 谁说不是呢?
: 美国现在新冠死亡率5.7%
: 吃了神药,做出来结果8%。
: 这不是日狗吗?
据说开始时NIH这个试验和中国曹彬组织的试验的endpoint 差不多,都包括病死率的指标
但是3月20日NIH试验改成了time to recovery
【 在 keystone0504 (飞翔之父) 的大作中提到: 】
: 他的意思是这个药开了个头而已,不过病程缩短说明此药确实有抗病毒作用,但有一点
: 很重要,他没有说是不是双盲的,不是的话无法排除安慰几效应
单从恢复时间来说
让没有生命危险的患者
吃这种伤睾丸的药,就为了提前四天出院
也挺缺德。
【 在 wljyx (nescaf) 的大作中提到: 】
: 据说开始时NIH这个试验和中国曹彬组织的试验的endpoint 差不多,都包括病死率的指标
: 但是3月20日NIH试验改成了time to recovery
endpoint改动就好像开了枪,再围单孔画靶子。
【 在 wljyx (neendscaf) 的大作中提到: 】
: 据说开始时NIH这个试验和中国曹彬组织的试验的endpoint 差不多,都包括病死率的指标
: 但是3月20日NIH试验改成了time to recovery
也就是说NIH原试验提前中止了
【 在 wljyx (nescaf) 的大作中提到: 】
: 据说开始时NIH这个试验和中国曹彬组织的试验的endpoint 差不多,都包括病死率的指标
: 但是3月20日NIH试验改成了time to recovery
这叫打哪指哪
【 在 StMicheal (archangel) 的大作中提到: 】
: endpoint改动就好像开了枪,再围单孔画靶子。
: 指标
是不是中国因为病人不够以后改的?如果是有可能是因为统计学原因,把time作
endpoint比用event要求的sample size小
【 在 StMicheal (archangel) 的大作中提到: 】
: endpoint改动就好像开了枪,再围单孔画靶子。
: 指标
没说终止
就是Endpoint 改了
【 在 niuheliang (别问我是谁) 的大作中提到: 】
: 也就是说NIH原试验提前中止了
: 指标
中国病人不够,但是美国病人那么多,可不要太够了。
【 在 keystone0504 (飞翔之父) 的大作中提到: 】
: 是不是中国因为病人不够以后改的?如果是有可能是因为统计学原因,把time作
: endpoint比用event要求的sample size小
你的脑袋完全就是屁股。美国新冠死亡率是包括大量确证轻症在家隔离的。吃了药的,都是需要住院治疗的。要么你蠢,要么你是廊庑七毛?工资涨了,可喜可贺啊。
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】
: 谁说不是呢?
: 美国现在新冠死亡率5.7%
: 吃了神药,做出来结果8%。
: 这不是日狗吗?
严格将,住院时间缩短并不能确定此药一定有抗病毒作用,应该测服药前后的病毒载量变化才是抗病毒最确切的指标。
【 在 keystone0504 (飞翔之父) 的大作中提到: 】
: 他的意思是这个药开了个头而已,不过病程缩短说明此药确实有抗病毒作用,但有一点
: 很重要,他没有说是不是双盲的,不是的话无法排除安慰几效应
老酱又出来骂街啦,哈哈哈
要是骂街能降低死亡率
你们天天跟川和团总瓢把子一起骂街
美国死亡率应该不断降低呀
【 在 kuzi (万年潜水员) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你的脑袋完全就是屁股。美国新冠死亡率是包括大量确证轻症在家隔离的。吃了药的,
: 都是需要住院治疗的。要么你蠢,要么你是廊庑七毛?工资涨了,可喜可贺啊。
8% = 11% 这种高深的公式,至少要大学以上学历才能理解吧。
统计学上确实是相等的
你没学过,也不能说你没文化
毕竟你还认识8 和11
比无脑老酱强多了
【 在 Amorphou (阿毛) 的大作中提到: 】
: 8% = 11% 这种高深的公式,至少要大学以上学历才能理解吧。
如果不是双盲,我要是医生就让吃了人民的希望的提前十天回家等死,最后统计出来住院天数少了十天。
你搞错了,医生不会往家赶病人
往家赶的是保险公司,我帝的保险公司又不是国营
住院越短它越赚钱。
保险公司不掏钱,医生赶病人是被迫的
【 在 gjstx (gjstx) 的大作中提到: 】
: 如果不是双盲,我要是医生就让吃了人民的希望的提前十天回家等死,最后统计出来住
: 院天数少了十天。
我说说在做人民希望临床试验时赶病人回家,就可以证明人民的希望能缩短住院时间十天。临床试验的费用都是药厂出,和保险无关。保险公司也不会当冤大头出钱给试验品。但我的实验会让药厂很满意。
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你搞错了,医生不会往家赶病人
: 往家赶的是保险公司,我帝的保险公司又不是国营
: 住院越短它越赚钱。
: 保险公司不掏钱,医生赶病人是被迫的
参与试验是病人自愿,
药厂出的钱寥寥无几,药水钱,少量试验补偿费而已
大头都是保险公司和联邦兜底
【 在 gjstx (gjstx) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我说说在做人民希望临床试验时赶病人回家,就可以证明人民的希望能缩短住院时间十
: 天。临床试验的费用都是药厂出,和保险无关。保险公司也不会当冤大头出钱给试验品
: 。但我的实验会让药厂很满意。
病人护理的所有费用,还有律师协议的成本,病人出问题后的补偿保险,统统药厂出。好比某病人使用一种危险很高的实验药,弄不好病人要抢救,要长期护理,保险公司吃饱了撑的出这些费用。保险公司只会给你保标准的护理和治疗,你如果是该死的病,就保到你在标准护理下死为止,或者你的保险额度用完为止。这也是为何之有美国大公司才有可能推出新药,虽然小公司每年筛选出的药更多,但小公司没钱完成三期临床,最后只能把专利卖给大公司去做。
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】
: 参与试验是病人自愿,
: 药厂出的钱寥寥无几,药水钱,少量试验补偿费而已
: 大头都是保险公司和联邦兜底
最精确描述这个行为的词就是:
鞭尸。
一个老药,被试验很多次,从来没效果。
”the drug failed a number of real-life tests — not just against hepatitis but also against Ebola in Africa. The drug languished, unapproved for any
use “
说是人民的希望,不如说
股市伟哥。
【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓-一品御前带刀老中医) 的大作中提到: 】
: The NIAID said Wednesday afternoon that a preliminary data analysis of the
: trial data from 1,063 patients found patients taking the drug recovered 31%
: faster than those taking the placebo. In remdesivir patients, the median
: time to recovery was 11 days. In placebo patients, it was 15 days.
: Dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIAID's director, told reporters at the White House
: that remdesivir had "a clear cut significant positive effect in
diminishing
: the time to recovery." He said the mortality rate was lower in the
: remdesivir group (8%), when compared with those taking the placebo (11%), : noting that it's not yet a statistically significant finding. However, he : further cemented his support for the remdesivir data, saying "this will be
: ...................