BUSINESS NEWS SEPTEMBER 27, 2019 / 12:01 PM / UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO Trump considers delisting Chinese firms from U.S. markets: source Alexandra Alper WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s administration is considering the possibility of delisting Chinese companies from U.S. stock exchanges, a source briefed on the matter said on Friday, in what would be a radical escalation of trade tensions between the two countries.
FILE PHOTO: Traders work on the floor at the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) in New York, U.S., September 9, 2019. REUTERS/Brendan McDermid The move would be part of a broader effort to limit U.S. investments into China, the source said, confirming an earlier report by Bloomberg that sent shockwaves through financial markets.
Nothing but the same tactics of a desperate Trump. He gets in trouble then screams wildly in all directions threatening everyone and everything.... just like a 3 year old tossing a tantrum.
Trump has ZERO power to control US investors because he has falling on his face with his stupid trade war. The Chinese have not flinched off the Oct 1st deadline. They see a sinking loser con man that is now enveloped in impeachment. It is the Hitler in his bunker idea... "I will take everyone down with me." Two days ago he was threatening markets would crash if he were to be impeached. Well Trump you are now under impeachment investigation. One crying screaming 3 year old tantrum moment over and over again.
Trump has lost his trade war. China beats him like a drum. US exports down 18% globally. The farmer is finished. Manufacturing in recession. Consumer suddenly stopping. Small business sentiment rots.
Meanwhile Trump was back on the Huawei anger bandwagon again. Huawei has now eliminated dependence on US suppliers. It has gone from bad to worse with each long Trump passing day.
Finally Trump has zero power to block private citizen investment in China. There is no point in even talking about it. Its just more hot air from this unfit loser.
The more important issues which I assure will be investigated in the impeachment process are Trump's market manipulation.
"the Trump administration was considering delisting Chinese companies from US stock exchanges and limiting Americans’ exposure to the Chinese market through govt pension funds, effectively imposing sovereign capital control."
"Some argue that the US has leverage because China needs US financial investment. I am not at all convinced. China has plenty of domestic savings -- its problem has been putting that to good use. It doesn't need to import savings and China's current account surplus has been rising (along with China's trade surplus) this year -- China is on net still a capital exporter."
And it still maintained 6% growth last year. We are not China's number one in exports. China does not need the US at all. It continues to put money into its infrastructure with a huge new airport called the starfish. It is beautiful. They keep investing in high speed rail growing their manufacturing business and into its BRI investments. The US does nothing but accrue more debt and more QE. Its infrastructure is falling apart and no US CEO's exception of a few are invested in anything here. We are in desperate need of infrastructure repair and growth.
China has already been dumping US treasuries. It could still do this and survive but the US could not
It has become increasingly obvious that Drumpf is a despot, in the mold of Bennito Mussolini.
I mean, come on, he pretends to support "free market capitalism" while issuing illegitimate "orders", so called "Presidential edicts, that have absolutely ZERO weight in law, to American Corporations to leave China and produce their goods elsewhere. Where have we seen this kind of behavior before. Well, Both Mussolini and Hitler spring to mind.
Now, on top of all that, he believes he has the 'right' to decide which compamies are listed on the Americna Stock Exchanges.
You my friends, have a rabid and dangerous animals on your hands, and if you think he is going to come to his senses, somehow miraculously, then you are as in need of psychiatric help as much as he is.
In fact, he needs to be comatized, for a good long period of time.
BUSINESS NEWS
SEPTEMBER 27, 2019 / 12:01 PM / UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO
Trump considers delisting Chinese firms from U.S. markets: source
Alexandra Alper
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s administration is
considering the possibility of delisting Chinese companies from U.S. stock
exchanges, a source briefed on the matter said on Friday, in what would be a radical escalation of trade tensions between the two countries.
FILE PHOTO: Traders work on the floor at the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) in New York, U.S., September 9, 2019. REUTERS/Brendan McDermid
The move would be part of a broader effort to limit U.S. investments into
China, the source said, confirming an earlier report by Bloomberg that sent shockwaves through financial markets.
卧槽,这是哪个ID说的啊,美帝急了连自己都捅
太有喜感了
正好回国上市
百度,阿里巴巴都是赚钱公司,市值太高了,没法自己回去,川普帮他们下架,太有喜感了
P10要跳楼了
看来 干死中国真是床铺的理想,这都已经不能再用意识形态和利益来衡量了
你们智商太低了,这是金融战,阿里私有化可能需要两千亿美元,你印两千亿美元给阿里私有化?
【 在 xlzero(megatron) 的大作中提到: 】
: 太有喜感了
: 正好回国上市
: 百度,阿里巴巴都是赚钱公司,市值太高了,没法自己回去,川普帮他们下架,太有喜
: 感了
流通的市值占总市值很小一部分。 可能只有几百亿美元。
【 在 OneFlyingPig (time) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你们智商太低了,这是金融战,阿里私有化可能需要两千亿美元,你印两千亿美元给阿
: 里私有化?
:
: 太有喜感了
:
: 正好回国上市
:
: 百度,阿里巴巴都是赚钱公司,市值太高了,没法自己回去,川普帮他们下架,
: 太有喜
:
: 感了
:
【 在 OneFlyingPig (time) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你们智商太低了,这是金融战,阿里私有化可能需要两千亿美元,你印两千亿美元给阿
: 里私有化?
:
: 太有喜感了
:
: 正好回国上市
:
: 百度,阿里巴巴都是赚钱公司,市值太高了,没法自己回去,川普帮他们下架,
: 太有喜
:
: 感了
:
傻子啊,那是阿里自己要私有化退市,现在是巨巨给他delist,阿里还出钱?你真傻了
他们不需要人民币。
没有美元计价的股票,对公司发展不利。平行姐们也不可能回去了
【 在 xlzero (megatron) 的大作中提到: 】
: 太有喜感了
: 正好回国上市
: 百度,阿里巴巴都是赚钱公司,市值太高了,没法自己回去,川普帮他们下架,太有喜
: 感了
Nothing but the same tactics of a desperate Trump. He gets in trouble then
screams wildly in all directions threatening everyone and everything....
just like a 3 year old tossing a tantrum.
Trump has ZERO power to control US investors because he has falling on his
face with his stupid trade war. The Chinese have not flinched off the Oct
1st deadline. They see a sinking loser con man that is now enveloped in
impeachment. It is the Hitler in his bunker idea... "I will take everyone
down with me." Two days ago he was threatening markets would crash if he
were to be impeached. Well Trump you are now under impeachment investigation. One crying screaming 3 year old tantrum moment over and over again.
Trump has lost his trade war. China beats him like a drum. US exports down
18% globally. The farmer is finished. Manufacturing in recession. Consumer
suddenly stopping. Small business sentiment rots.
Meanwhile Trump was back on the Huawei anger bandwagon again. Huawei has now eliminated dependence on US suppliers. It has gone from bad to worse with
each long Trump passing day.
Finally Trump has zero power to block private citizen investment in China.
There is no point in even talking about it. Its just more hot air from this unfit loser.
The more important issues which I assure will be investigated in the
impeachment process are Trump's market manipulation.
你真会扯谈,阿里的股票是全流通。
其实大部分上市公司上市并不是为了那10%的募集资金,而是为了将来解禁后全流通,
那样就可以100%变现。
【 在 yzl232(三十三) 的大作中提到: 】
: 流通的市值占总市值很小一部分。 可能只有几百亿美元。
"the Trump administration was considering delisting Chinese companies from
US stock exchanges and limiting Americans’ exposure to the Chinese market
through govt pension funds, effectively imposing sovereign capital control."
He doesn't have the balls to do this
阿里敢不出钱私有化,那肯定是马云蔡崇信不要命了,蔡崇信还拿套现的钱买了NBA篮
球队,到时候抓人加冻结资产,那就钱和命都没了
【 在 xlzero(megatron) 的大作中提到: 】
: 傻子啊,那是阿里自己要私有化退市,现在是巨巨给他delist,阿里还出钱?你真傻了
【 在 bigBall2 (BB) 的大作中提到: 】
: 他们不需要人民币。
: 没有美元计价的股票,对公司发展不利。平行姐们也不可能回去了
阿里不知道,反正百度有回去的想法,问题是市值高自己买不起
巨巨来个命令帮他delist,一大半中概都得乐死
剩下一半骗钱的本来就是骗钱,无所谓
at the end, the real commie is Trump
【 在 lubbock12 (非老非小将) 的大作中提到: 】
: 看来 干死中国真是床铺的理想,这都已经不能再用意识形态和利益来衡量了
"Some argue that the US has leverage because China needs US financial
investment. I am not at all convinced. China has plenty of domestic
savings -- its problem has been putting that to good use. It doesn't need to import savings and China's current account surplus has been rising (along with China's trade surplus) this year -- China is on net still a capital
exporter."
And it still maintained 6% growth last year. We are not China's number one
in exports. China does not need the US at all. It continues to put money
into its infrastructure with a huge new airport called the starfish. It is
beautiful. They keep investing in high speed rail growing their
manufacturing business and into its BRI investments. The US does nothing but accrue more debt and more QE. Its infrastructure is falling apart and no US CEO's exception of a few are invested in anything here. We are in desperate need of infrastructure repair and growth.
China has already been dumping US treasuries. It could still do this and
survive but the US could not
【 在 yzl232 (三十三) 的大作中提到: 】
: 流通的市值占总市值很小一部分。 可能只有几百亿美元。
治理何在?是美国政府要强迫阿里退市。那就请美国政府印钱
【 在 OneFlyingPig (time) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你们智商太低了,这是金融战,阿里私有化可能需要两千亿美元,你印两千亿美元给阿
: 里私有化?
:
: 太有喜感了
:
: 正好回国上市
:
: 百度,阿里巴巴都是赚钱公司,市值太高了,没法自己回去,川普帮他们下架,
: 太有喜
:
: 感了
:
你的智商真是不够用,几年前很多中概想私有化,后来并不是市值太高买不起,而是中国怕它们消耗外汇储备,不准它们私有化了。
如果能私有化回国上市,那是要赚好几倍的,国内对这些企业的估值比美股高好几倍。还记得当年的暴风影音吗?
说百度美股市值高只能暴露你是个不会炒股的文盲。
【 在 xlzero(megatron) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: 阿里不知道,反正百度有回去的想法,问题是市值高自己买不起
<br>: 巨巨来个命令帮他delist,一大半中概都得乐死
<br>: 剩下一半骗钱的本来就是骗钱,无所谓
<br>
【 在 OneFlyingPig (time) 的大作中提到: 】
: 阿里敢不出钱私有化,那肯定是马云蔡崇信不要命了,蔡崇信还拿套现的钱买了NBA篮
: 球队,到时候抓人加冻结资产,那就钱和命都没了
:
: 傻子啊,那是阿里自己要私有化退市,现在是巨巨给他delist,阿里还出钱?你
: 真傻了
:
你是说到了中美互相没收对方公司资产的时候?那谁损失大?阿里巴巴损失多少,从同等美国公司身上罚回来就行啊
另外你不知道海外中概上市全是尼玛奇葩的结构,注册地都在维京群岛和开铺满这种鬼地方,国内控制人把股权质押给那边注册的公司,然后再去美国上市
你强行要阿里巴巴退市,阿里就是可以不出钱,你拿他真没办法,理论上美国ADS不具
有阿里巴巴公司股权
所以巨巨发声以后中国要出一万亿退市,你妈比你这智商上天了
【 在 OneFlyingPig (time) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你的智商真是不够用,几年前很多中概想私有化,后来并不是市值太高买不起,而是中
: 国怕它们消耗外汇储备,不准它们私有化了。
: 如果能私有化回国上市,那是要赚好几倍的,国内对这些企业的估值比美股高好几倍。
: 还记得当年的暴风影音吗?
: 说百度美股市值高只能暴露你是个不会炒股的文盲。
:
: 阿里不知道,反正百度有回去的想法,问题是市值高自己买不起
:
: 巨巨来个命令帮他delist,一大半中概都得乐死
:
: 剩下一半骗钱的本来就是骗钱,无所谓
:
It has become increasingly obvious that Drumpf is a despot, in the mold of
Bennito Mussolini.
I mean, come on, he pretends to support "free market capitalism" while
issuing illegitimate "orders", so called "Presidential edicts, that have
absolutely ZERO weight in law, to American Corporations to leave China and
produce their goods elsewhere. Where have we seen this kind of behavior
before. Well, Both Mussolini and Hitler spring to mind.
Now, on top of all that, he believes he has the 'right' to decide which
compamies are listed on the Americna Stock Exchanges.
You my friends, have a rabid and dangerous animals on your hands, and if you think he is going to come to his senses, somehow miraculously, then you are as in need of psychiatric help as much as he is.
In fact, he needs to be comatized, for a good long period of time.
退市价格由股东大会决议, 嗯, 会做人的阿里会用$68的"上市价格"退市的
人家在香港已经退过一次了, 经验十足
【 在 OneFlyingPig (time) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你真会扯谈,阿里的股票是全流通。
: 其实大部分上市公司上市并不是为了那10%的募集资金,而是为了将来解禁后全流通,
: 那样就可以100%变现。
:
: 流通的市值占总市值很小一部分。 可能只有几百亿美元。
:
delist 而已。谁给你赔钱啊,你到联合国告去吧。
自己私有化当然要出钱把股票买回来,被强制下市那就是川普出钱了,你以为马云会傻到配合川普出钱买自家股票?
【 在 OneFlyingPig (time) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你们智商太低了,这是金融战,阿里私有化可能需要两千亿美元,你印两千亿美元给阿
: 里私有化?
:
: 太有喜感了
:
: 正好回国上市
:
: 百度,阿里巴巴都是赚钱公司,市值太高了,没法自己回去,川普帮他们下架,
: 太有喜
:
: 感了
:
【 在 OneFlyingPig (time) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你的智商真是不够用,几年前很多中概想私有化,后来并不是市值太高买不起,而是中
: 国怕它们消耗外汇储备,不准它们私有化了。
: 如果能私有化回国上市,那是要赚好几倍的,国内对这些企业的估值比美股高好几倍。
: 还记得当年的暴风影音吗?
: 说百度美股市值高只能暴露你是个不会炒股的文盲。
:
: 阿里不知道,反正百度有回去的想法,问题是市值高自己买不起
:
: 巨巨来个命令帮他delist,一大半中概都得乐死
:
: 剩下一半骗钱的本来就是骗钱,无所谓
:
傻子,16年以前,赚钱的公司都在国外上市,阿里,腾讯,百度
那个时候百度日进斗金不为过,李克强专门召集大佬们开会探讨回归问题,百度说自己市值太高回不去,想私有化回去赚几倍的也要看你有多少钱,百度几百亿美元市值,能出钱私有化的私人集团就没有,没那么多钱买回去,百度在美国几百亿美元市值,换成人民币就几千亿,你要私有化回去上市列估值起码上万亿,那成巨无霸,根本不现实
至于限制换汇是针对那些垃圾公司,急着回去炒概念捞钱,暴风影音都快破产了
前些时候,这里有人发过一个帖子,说贸易战已经结束了,下一步是金融战了。水平真高啊。我当时就转给了朋友,大家都说好。
回共产中国上市!你以为那样能很挣钱的话共产党当年会让他们来美国?中国石油中国石化咋不在纽约上市呢?用你小脑想想都明白。
【 在 xlzero (megatron) 的大作中提到: 】
: 太有喜感了
: 正好回国上市
: 百度,阿里巴巴都是赚钱公司,市值太高了,没法自己回去,川普帮他们下架,太有喜
: 感了
【 在 tran299 (熟道勇释放很少) 的大作中提到: 】
: 退市价格由股东大会决议, 嗯, 会做人的阿里会用$68的"上市价格"退市的
: 人家在香港已经退过一次了, 经验十足
这种中概,同股不同权,管理层都是有绝对投票权,全是奇葩架构,巨巨一个房地产二代懂个屁
干死共产中国president Trump就是美国英雄,死后雕像上总统山
【 在 lubbock12 (非老非小将) 的大作中提到: 】
: 看来 干死中国真是床铺的理想,这都已经不能再用意识形态和利益来衡量了
阿里又不在米国做生意, it 在米国有个p的资产, 倒是可以把马云买的小岛给没收了
天朝在米国基本没有啥品牌, 也就是没有啥实体, 不知道有多少金融资产可以冻结
【 在 xlzero (megatron) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你是说到了中美互相没收对方公司资产的时候?那谁损失大?阿里巴巴损失多少,从同
: 等美国公司身上罚回来就行啊
: 另外你不知道海外中概上市全是尼玛奇葩的结构,注册地都在维京群岛和开铺满这种鬼
: 地方,国内控制人把股权质押给那边注册的公司,然后再去美国上市
: 你强行要阿里巴巴退市,阿里就是可以不出钱,你拿他真没办法,理论上美国ADS不具
: 有阿里巴巴公司股权
【 在 StockFuture (Option) 的大作中提到: 】
: 回共产中国上市!你以为那样能很挣钱的话共产党当年会让他们来美国?中国石油中国
: 石化咋不在纽约上市呢?用你小脑想想都明白。
你去看看中国移动,中国电信,中国石油,中国人寿,看看市值
阿里非常眼馋华为在海外的发展
自己在这方面也下了非常大的功夫,但是很难。
圈在国内跟拼多多之流的恶斗,也不是个事
【 在 tran299 (熟道勇释放很少) 的大作中提到: 】
: 阿里又不在米国做生意, it 在米国有个p的资产, 倒是可以把马云买的小岛给没收了: 天朝在米国基本没有啥品牌, 也就是没有啥实体, 不知道有多少金融资产可以冻结
阿里能在天朝垄断赚钱, 那是土共给的面子
这种 easy money (淘宝 和 支付宝) 其他国家政府只可能扶持本土企业, 绝不会让给
外国人的哈 ~~
【 在 bigBall2 (BB) 的大作中提到: 】
: 阿里非常眼馋华为在海外的发展
: 自己在这方面也下了非常大的功夫,但是很难。
: 圈在国内跟拼多多之流的恶斗,也不是个事
川普真是伟大,要以一己之力摧毁美国金融市场的上百年来形成的信用体系。跟之前号召取消所有华为专利,摧毁知识产权体系的卢比奥真是一对活宝。总统只要一声令下,你们手里的股票就全变废纸。
出不出钱随便。
几大股市不让你进去交易了。拿着你股票的只能玩场外。
股票还能值几个钱?
【 在 xlzero (megatron) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你是说到了中美互相没收对方公司资产的时候?那谁损失大?阿里巴巴损失多少,从同
: 等美国公司身上罚回来就行啊
: 另外你不知道海外中概上市全是尼玛奇葩的结构,注册地都在维京群岛和开铺满这种鬼
: 地方,国内控制人把股权质押给那边注册的公司,然后再去美国上市
: 你强行要阿里巴巴退市,阿里就是可以不出钱,你拿他真没办法,理论上美国ADS不具
: 有阿里巴巴公司股权
【 在 dlc (dalaocu) 的大作中提到: 】
: 出不出钱随便。
: 几大股市不让你进去交易了。拿着你股票的只能玩场外。
: 股票还能值几个钱?
股票不值钱不是更好?公司发行完股票,钱在公司手里
因为不是公司自己的原因,所以损害的不是公司信誉
持有中概股的投资者损失惨重,找谁去?
今天持有中概股的股民都挨了巨巨一闷棍,不知道能不能缓过劲来了
【 在 xlzero (megatron) 的大作中提到: 】
: 股票不值钱不是更好?公司发行完股票,钱在公司手里
: 因为不是公司自己的原因,所以损害的不是公司信誉
: 持有中概股的投资者损失惨重,找谁去?
【 在 xlzero (megatron) 的大作中提到: 】
: 股票不值钱不是更好?公司发行完股票,钱在公司手里
: 因为不是公司自己的原因,所以损害的不是公司信誉
: 持有中概股的投资者损失惨重,找谁去?
公司里的人没有得到融资;得到的是股票。
信誉-没人关心你是不是受欺负了,只关心你是不是还值钱。
有人打你,那我就赶紧抛你。你没被打死,那我再回来
【 在 bigBall2 (BB) 的大作中提到: 】
: 公司里的人没有得到融资;得到的是股票。
: 信誉-没人关心你是不是受欺负了,只关心你是不是还值钱。
: 有人打你,那我就赶紧抛你。你没被打死,那我再回来
公司都把股票发行给自己员工?
下跌,抛售没问题,损失找谁去
那是主动私有化。被退市的话第一步是转为柜台交易,股票可能会大跌,美国的投资者倒霉。
【 在 tran299 (熟道勇释放很少) 的大作中提到: 】
: 退市价格由股东大会决议, 嗯, 会做人的阿里会用$68的"上市价格"退市的
: 人家在香港已经退过一次了, 经验十足
床铺照着美国的睾丸 狠狠地又砸了一锤子
美国人民痛哭流涕
股市连跌几天川总就会发推谴责假新闻了。
【 在 Cadillaclee (cadillaclee) 的大作中提到: 】
: 床铺照着美国的睾丸 狠狠地又砸了一锤子
: 美国人民痛哭流涕
【 在 simadong (simadong) 的大作中提到: 】
: 股市连跌几天川总就会发推谴责假新闻了。
【 在 Cadillaclee (cadillaclee) 的大作中提到: 】
: 床铺照着美国的睾丸 狠狠地又砸了一锤子
: 美国人民痛哭流涕
郭七大半年前就暴了,这是大棋的一步
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问题是 在天朝又能去哪儿呢 ?
只听说华为要裁掉6000人, 没见到 6000人主动辞职助威米国制裁 ~~~
【 在 bigBall2 (BB) 的大作中提到: 】
: 公司里的人没有得到融资;得到的是股票。
: 信誉-没人关心你是不是受欺负了,只关心你是不是还值钱。
: 有人打你,那我就赶紧抛你。你没被打死,那我再回来
股市本来就是个在天上画大饼骗钱的东西。关系不好了自然不愿意继续让你在那个地盘上继续骗。
Don’t think the administration branch has authority to delist stocks.
These are not Chinese companies any more. They are partly or largely owned
by US investors!
乐死中共,床铺死定
【 在 Cadillaclee (cadillaclee) 的大作中提到: 】
: 床铺照着美国的睾丸 狠狠地又砸了一锤子
: 美国人民痛哭流涕
你把delist和私有化搞混了。私有化是公司回购全部流通股。delist是股票不在上市的市场流通。股东没有变化,在over counter trade。delist公司没有义务要回购全部股票
【 在 OneFlyingPig(time) 的大作中提到: 】
: 阿里敢不出钱私有化,那肯定是马云蔡崇信不要命了,蔡崇信还拿套现的钱买了NBA篮
: 球队,到时候抓人加冻结资产,那就钱和命都没了
: 真傻了