炸了:美国80%以上早餐麦片含过量致癌草甘膦(Glyphosate)

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dragonfly
101 楼
股票跌了100个亿美元
很惨

【 在 bushel (失乐园) 的大作中提到: 】
: 收购他的,不负连带赔偿责任吗?
: 居然还有人敢收购?
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loveagain
102 楼
属实
不比三鹿害人浅!

资本主义低端报作坊坏起来黑心起来更要命

【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这跟中国当年三聚氰胺一个性质
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hop4
103 楼
本来现在中国产的宠物食品美国都不让宠物吃。 好多包装袋上写着 not from china.

国内即使没污染的食物也是人为添加各种有毒有害物质。 如面粉里加滑石份, 央视曝
光的视频很多

【在 StockFuture(Option)的大作中提到:】
:真他妈扯。按照美国食品标准,中国人吃的大米白面蔬菜给美国的狗吃都不合格。你还别以为这是开玩笑。你麻痹中国土壤污染数据是国家绝密不允许公开
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Bifujian
104 楼
用滑石粉最厉害的是美帝强生的致癌婴儿爽身粉,刚被判赔偿四十六个亿。这才二十多个受害人去告。如果所有受害人都去告,一百个强生都不够赔的。

【 在 hop4 () 的大作中提到: 】
: 本来现在中国产的宠物食品美国都不让宠物吃。 好多包装袋上写着 not from china.
: 国内即使没污染的食物也是人为添加各种有毒有害物质。 如面粉里加滑石份, 央视曝
: 光的视频很多
: :真他妈扯。按照美国食品标准,中国人吃的大米白面蔬菜给美国的狗吃都不合格。你
: 还别以为这是开玩笑。你麻痹中国土壤污染数据是国家绝密不允许公开
: :
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loveagain
105 楼
属实
耗子的肝宝就被美帝医疗系统给暗杀了

【 在 Bifujian (哈哈儿) 的大作中提到: 】
: 用滑石粉最厉害的是美帝强生的致癌婴儿爽身粉,刚被判赔偿四十六个亿。这才二十多
: 个受害人去告。如果所有受害人都去告,一百个强生都不够赔的。
: .
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StMicheal
106 楼
提醒过你了。既然你不去看自己引用的文章,我就替你把文章结论贴上来吧:

An extraordinarily large volume of animal data has been compiled to evaluate the carcinogenic potential of glyphosate. The expected normal biological
variability for spontaneous tumor formation is reflected across this
extensive data set (Tables 20–23). However, no specific neoplasm stands out as a consequence of glyphosate exposures. While some individual studies may note an increase in a specific neoplasm at the high dose, the pooled data
fail to identify any consistent pattern of neoplasm formation, demonstrating that the effect is not reproducible and not treatment-related. The lack of a dose-response across the several orders of magnitude suggests that no
individual tumor of single etiology is attributable to glyphosate
administration.

Glyphosate has undergone repeated and extensive review by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (US EPA 1993), the European Union (EC 2002, Germany Rapporteur Member State 2015b) and the World Health Organization/
Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (WHO/FAO 2004b, WHO/FAO 2004a). With regard to potential carcinogenic effects of glyphosate, the unanimous outcome of these reviews has been that the data provide
sufficient evidence to conclude that glyphosate should not be considered a
carcinogen. Genotoxicity studies with glyphosate, conducted under conditions stipulated by internationally accepted testing guidelines and GLP, as
reviewed in 2000 (Williams et al. 2000) and recently updated (Kier and
Kirkland 2013), indicate that glyphosate clearly does not exhibit the
properties of a DNA-reactive genotoxic carcinogen. This lack of mutagenicity rules out an important concern for carcinogenicity.

The absence of a glyphosate-related mechanism for carcinogenesis, the huge
volume of genotoxicity data studies indicating no likely mutagenic or DNA-
reactive potential (Kier and Kirkland 2013), combined with the lack of
epidemiological evidence for glyphosate-induced cancer (Mink et al. 2012),
and the lack of carcinogenicity in multiple rodent carcinogenicity assays,
are depicted in a causal inference grid in Figure 2, as put forth by Adami
et al. (Adami et al. 2011). The overwhelming weight of the available
evidence, demonstrating a lack of both biological plausibility and
epidemiological effects, draws a compelling conclusion that glyphosate's
carcinogenic potential is extremely low or non-existent.

【 在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓) 的大作中提到: 】
: WHO和欧洲科研机构都给出了高达6%的致癌几率,
: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4819582/
: 比你说的这个高了6万倍
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StMicheal
107 楼
还是平均教育水平最高的华人论坛呢。

笑死。
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choke88
108 楼
食品的安全性应该是更重要了,健康与否那要看是不是均衡饮食及个人的基因了,有人抽烟抽一辈子活到一百岁,有人一开始抽就致癌,这要怎么解释。
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GoLost
109 楼
买有机的吧,可能好点,非有机的小麦都是喷洒草甘膦杀死后统一收割,这样能增产百分之五,ctmd
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daigaku
110 楼
这个主要给小孩吃。
我自己从来不买,但我妈爱买
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happy6688
111 楼
啥也不能吃了........
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fibril
112 楼
这个学术上貌似的确很有争议。不过谁也不愿意多吃农药。能低点总比高点好。也可以促进技术进步嘛。
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MKZhou
113 楼
准备后事吧

【 在 newqiezi (新茄子) 的大作中提到: 】
: 太可怕了
: 我吃过好几年
: [在 dragonfly (小蜻蜓) 的大作中提到:]
: :美国中文网据今日美国周四报道。美国一系列受欢迎的早餐食品,包括麦片谷物、燕
: 麦棒,以及即食麦片等被发现含有危险剂量的致癌除草剂成分——草甘膦(
Glyphosate
: )。美环境工作组织(Environmental Working Group)周三表示,其进行的一项研
究测
: :试了29种燕麦食物,除了其中5种,其他全部沦陷!全都都含有草甘膦。
: :就是孟山都那个致癌除草剂。
: :看你们还敢吃美国麦片?
: :说孟山都安全的人士出来洗洗地。
: ...................
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dragonfly
114 楼
既然你只看结论,不看他们怎么得出结论(把致癌的研究排除)。
那你看看这片综述的结论:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24762670

在联邦法庭上作证的有NIH National Toxicology Program 专家C. William Jameson, Ph.D
“To a reasonable degree of scientific certainly,” it’s clear that
glyphosate and glyphosate-based herbicides likely cause cancer in humans,
particularly non-Hodgkin lymphoma (NHL), at real-world exposures including
the levels farmworkers and others face when using the weedkiller.”

NIH的专家是layman吗?欧洲科学家是layman吗?
显然你说的layman法庭导致错误判决是不成立的,
法庭layman陪审团看的是证据的说服力。

就算孟山都有100篇论文证明草甘膦不会导致100种癌症,只要别人3篇论文证明草甘膦
导致第101种癌症,孟山都就输了。
这就像500名哈佛教授上街抓小偷一样,500专家没抓到小偷,结论:街上没小偷。
但是NIH的第501位专家运气好,抓住了小偷:结论:街上有小偷。
500位哈佛教授没面子,都说NIH专家撒谎。你说陪审团应该相信500位哈佛教授的荒谬
结论吗?

【 在 StMicheal (archangel) 的大作中提到: 】
: 提醒过你了。既然你不去看自己引用的文章,我就替你把文章结论贴上来吧:
: An extraordinarily large volume of animal data has been compiled to
evaluate
: the carcinogenic potential of glyphosate. The expected normal biological : variability for spontaneous tumor formation is reflected across this
: extensive data set (Tables 20–23). However, no specific neoplasm stands
out
: as a consequence of glyphosate exposures. While some individual studies
may
: note an increase in a specific neoplasm at the high dose, the pooled data
: fail to identify any consistent pattern of neoplasm formation,
demonstrating
: that the effect is not reproducible and not treatment-related. The lack
of
: a dose-response across the several orders of magnitude suggests that no
: ...................
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dragonfly
115 楼
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24762670
综述引证了44个不同研究,结论草甘膦致癌。
Analyzing 44 individual research projects published since 1980, the
scientists, writing in the International Journal of Environmental Research
and Public Health, said that people exposed to the weed killer glyphosate,
marked by Monsanto under the brand name Roundup, had double the risk of
developing non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma.
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DEHEI
116 楼
那时候有草甘膦么?有现在这么多农药?

【 在 suanxiangge (蒜香哥) 的大作中提到: 】
: 吃吧,没事。
: 宋美龄在美国活了106岁,严幼韵在美国活到112岁。
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MB80528
117 楼
【 在 bainiu (金牛星) 的大作中提到: 】
: FDA经常用单一化合物量效曲线耍流氓!
: 问题是你每天不是接触一种FDA的化合物.
: 把每天吃下去的所以化合物按FDA剂量加起来, 看看够不够中毒的.
: 再有就是多种化合物还有协同和加合作用, FDA考虑了么? 老幼病残孕考虑了么?

80年代,FDA的米疣Commissioner,David Kessler,
曾经一度动用联邦政府的半军事人员去逮捕自然疗法医生。

他还进一步禁止保健品商店卖维他命,深怕狗蝇病人不足,
会影响他盗魔经信徒掌控的制药和医疗暴利行业的收入飙升。

当然,被盗魔经信徒掌控的米国主流媒体今天对这都只字不提。
而海内外老中对被盗魔经信徒掌控的西药西医行业更是盲目膜拜。

Following three frustrating years as FDA Commissioner, Dr. Herbert Ley
resigned and told the San Francisco Chronicle, “The thing that bugs me is
that people think the FDA is protecting them. It isn’t. What the FDA is
doing and what the public thinks it’s doing are as different as night and
day” (January 2, 1970).

Ley 的辞职,让盗魔经信徒长驱直入的进驻FDA毫无阻力。造成米国制药和医疗费用全
面迅速飙升。