2021没有收入,只有long term capital gains

w
watergulu
楼主 (未名空间)

这样的话,long term capital gain除了可以offset standard deduction还可以
offset traditional IRA contribution吗?

比如赚了6万,减去12500的standard exemption, 再存点tradtional IRA,今年的long term capital gain就可以不用交税了吧。

不知道这样计算对不对?大牛来说说好吗。
p
poppyjasper

不可以存IRA

只有劳动收入才能存IRA,比如W2,合同工1099,自雇
w
watergulu

啊?这样啊?那我short term capital gain还有几千块,这个可以用来存traditional IRA吗?

【 在 poppyjasper (为者常成,行者常至) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不可以存IRA
: 只有劳动收入才能存IRA,比如W2,合同工1099,自雇

B
BCQ

这也不是劳动所得
【 在 watergulu (Tufei) 的大作中提到: 】
: 啊?这样啊?那我short term capital gain还有几千块,这个可以用来存
traditional
: IRA吗?

s
stockfans12

Don't listen to them ... short term gain 100% can deposit into ira ....
as I done it before through my cpa ... even now I don't qualify as income
over $200k
Long term capital gain , don't known , as I never done before ..
But normal logic is you can do it as well

【 在 watergulu(Tufei) 的大作中提到: 】

: 啊?这样啊?那我short term capital gain还有几千块,这个可以用来存
traditional

: IRA吗?

p
poppyjasper

我觉得只有earned income才可以

莫守法莫大cpa,可能胆子比较大一些

s
swanswan

歪门邪道不要搞,你有本事摊开来说。

【 在 stockfans12 (sf) 的大作中提到: 】
: Don't listen to them ... short term gain 100% can deposit into ira ....
: as I done it before through my cpa ... even now I don't qualify as income : over $200k
: Long term capital gain , don't known , as I never done before ..
: But normal logic is you can do it as well
:
: 啊?这样啊?那我short term capital gain还有几千块,这个可以用来存
: traditional
:
: IRA吗?
:

w
watergulu

老大,网上说if your short term capital gain is your only source of income
then it can not be used for contribution to IRA. 是不是当时你还有其他收入呢
?谢谢。

【 在 stockfans12 (sf) 的大作中提到: 】
: Don't listen to them ... short term gain 100% can deposit into ira ....
: as I done it before through my cpa ... even now I don't qualify as income : over $200k
: Long term capital gain , don't known , as I never done before ..
: But normal logic is you can do it as well
:
: 啊?这样啊?那我short term capital gain还有几千块,这个可以用来存
: traditional
:
: IRA吗?
:

s
stockfans12

2009 I still have job , after 2010 already over $200k income in stock ...
never contribute since then .....
maybe they are correct .....
But short term gain is tax as salary income .... normal logic should be ok , you go check with your cpa ..

【 在 watergulu(Tufei) 的大作中提到: 】

: 老大,网上说if your short term capital gain is your only source of
income

: then it can not be used for contribution to IRA. 是不是当时你还有其他
收入呢

: ?谢谢。

s
stockfans12

Oh well , 2009 I still have job .... maybe you are correct

【 在 poppyjasper(为者常成,行者常至) 的大作中提到: 】

: 我觉得只有earned income才可以

: 莫守法莫大cpa,可能胆子比较大一些

c
chuh


【 在 stockfans12 (sf) 的大作中提到: 】
: Don't listen to them ... short term gain 100% can deposit into ira ....
: as I done it before through my cpa ... even now I don't qualify as income : over $200k
: Long term capital gain , don't known , as I never done before ..
: But normal logic is you can do it as well
:
: 啊?这样啊?那我short term capital gain还有几千块,这个可以用来存
: traditional
:
: IRA吗?
:

Check your tax return. Your $200k income must include "earned income." Your IRA contribution maybe post-tax instead of pre-tax.

For IRA rules, long term or short term capital gains do not matter.

w
watergulu

再问大家一个问题,如果全年earned income只有6000刀,但是还有一些long term
capital gain. 那可以全部6000都放Roth IRA吗?因为我知道Roth只能放税后的钱,所以想问一下。

t
test3

you know shit. get a better CPA

【 在 stockfans12 (sf) 的大作中提到: 】
: Don't listen to them ... short term gain 100% can deposit into ira ....
: as I done it before through my cpa ... even now I don't qualify as income : over $200k
: Long term capital gain , don't known , as I never done before ..
: But normal logic is you can do it as well
:
:
:
: 【 在 watergulu(Tufei) 的大作中提到: 】
: : 啊?这样啊?那我short term capital gain还有几千块,这个可以用来存
: traditional
:
: : IRA吗?
t
test3

买个报税软件,说你要存6k Roth,看看让不让你存不就行了。

【 在 watergulu (Tufei) 的大作中提到: 】
: 再问大家一个问题,如果全年earned income只有6000刀,但是还有一些long term
: capital gain. 那可以全部6000都放Roth IRA吗?因为我知道Roth只能放税后的钱,所
: 以想问一下。
R
Register9876

capital gain 不算 earned income。
你可以开个 LLC, 你是OWNER 兼 雇员, 自己给自己开工资, 同时付 social
security tax, medicare tax, federal income tax, state income tax, etc. 在
加州, 开LLC 年收入 $25万以下, 免费; $50万以下, 几年前是 $800/年。

其实, long term capital gain tax rate 比 income tax rate 还低, short term capital gain 要用 income tax rate, 为了 $6-7,000 的 IRA, 开个LLC 不一定值。