Trump issues executive order banning TikTok from operating in 45 days if it's not sold by Chinese parent company
The order states, "The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with ByteDance Ltd. (a.k.a. Zìjié Tiàodòng), Beijing, China, or its subsidiaries, in which any such company has any interest, as identified by the Secretary of Commerce ( Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order."
NEW YORK — President Donald Trump on Thursday ordered an unspecified ban on “transactions” with the Chinese owners of the consumer apps TikTok and WeChat.
The twin executive orders — one for each app — take effect in 45 days. They call on the Secretary of Commerce to define the banned transactions by that time. The orders’ wording is vague, but leaves open the possibility that hosting the apps in the Apple AAPL, +3.48% and Alphabet’s GOOGL, +1.74% GOOG, +1.79% Google app stores could be covered by the ban.
"Shortly after issuing the order regarding TikTok, Trump issued a similar order for WeChat, an group chat app owned by Tencent, a Chinese based company. For WeChat, which allows its users to transfer funds to each other, the order states it will ban financial transactions with Tencent. The order states "any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with Tencent Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī), Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order."
Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with Tencent Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī), Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order.
【 在 plff (bbb) 的大作中提到: 】 : 显然不是封公司，要不然直接加入实体名单就够了，那就是华为待遇。 : 腾讯那么大个公司，和美帝做生意的有无数家，怎么封？把他公司电脑的Intel CPU都 : 拿出来，微软系统都卸载吗？ : 这个只有等巨巨自己出来解释了 : "Shortly after issuing the order regarding TikTok, Trump issued a similar : order for WeChat, an group chat app owned by Tencent, a Chinese based : company. : For WeChat, which allows its users to transfer funds to each other, the : order states it will ban financial transactions with Tencent. The order : states "any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with : ...................
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】 找到原文了，不知道该怎样解读：any transaction that is related to WeChat ... with Tencent Holdings Ltd. ... or any subsidiary of that entity ...
Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with Tencent Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī), Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order.
【 在 plff (bbb) 的大作中提到: 】 : 显然不是封公司，要不然直接加入实体名单就够了，那就是华为待遇。 : 腾讯那么大个公司，和美帝做生意的有无数家，怎么封？把他公司电脑的Intel CPU都 : 拿出来，微软系统都卸载吗？ : 这个只有等巨巨自己出来解释了 : "Shortly after issuing the order regarding TikTok, Trump issued a similar : order for WeChat, an group chat app owned by Tencent, a Chinese based : company. : For WeChat, which allows its users to transfer funds to each other, the : order states it will ban financial transactions with Tencent. The order : states "any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with : ...................
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Trump issues executive order banning TikTok from operating in 45 days if it's not sold by Chinese parent company
The order states, "The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45
days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with ByteDance Ltd. (a.k.a. Zìjié Tiàodòng), Beijing, China, or its subsidiaries, in which any such
company has any interest, as identified by the Secretary of Commerce (
Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order."
呵呵，腾讯也被封了。
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-bans-transactions-with-chinese-
owners-of-tiktok-wechat-2020-08-06
NEW YORK — President Donald Trump on Thursday ordered an unspecified ban on “transactions” with the Chinese owners of the consumer apps TikTok and
WeChat.
The twin executive orders — one for each app — take effect in 45 days.
They call on the Secretary of Commerce to define the banned transactions by that time. The orders’ wording is vague, but leaves open the possibility
that hosting the apps in the Apple AAPL, +3.48% and Alphabet’s GOOGL, +1.74% GOOG, +1.79% Google app stores could be covered by the ban.
苹果肯定会跳出来搞lawsuit，否则苹果手机在天朝怎么办，那是苹果手机最大巿场啊
。
封的是帝区
果子国内商店不受影响
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】
: 苹果肯定会跳出来搞lawsuit，否则苹果手机在天朝怎么办，那是苹果手机最大巿场啊
: 。
你仔细看原文，封的是公司，禁止任何美国公司或个人与抖音或腾讯有商业往来。
不过，个人继续使用封信，暂时是没有问题的。
【 在 plff (bbb) 的大作中提到: 】
: 封的是帝区
: 果子国内商店不受影响
为啥不是立刻封？
没法封，Android自己下一个就可以了，服务器不在美国它能怎么着。
【 在 cunzhang (已注销) 的大作中提到: 】
: 为啥不是立刻封？
那样明天股市会崩的。关键是腾讯，几乎所有美国IT大公司都和腾讯有往来。
【 在 cunzhang (已注销) 的大作中提到: 】
: 为啥不是立刻封？
对个人暂时没什么影响。对美国IT公司来说是很恶心的事。不光是IT公司，很多在大陆做生意的美国公司会找腾讯做广告业务。
【 在 wantage (abstract) 的大作中提到: 】
: 没法封，Android自己下一个就可以了，服务器不在美国它能怎么着。
显然不是封公司，要不然直接加入实体名单就够了，那就是华为待遇。
腾讯那么大个公司，和美帝做生意的有无数家，怎么封？把他公司电脑的Intel CPU都
拿出来，微软系统都卸载吗？
这个只有等巨巨自己出来解释了
"Shortly after issuing the order regarding TikTok, Trump issued a similar
order for WeChat, an group chat app owned by Tencent, a Chinese based
company.
For WeChat, which allows its users to transfer funds to each other, the
order states it will ban financial transactions with Tencent. The order
states "any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with
respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States,
with Tencent Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī),
Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the
Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order."
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你仔细看原文，封的是公司，禁止任何美国公司或个人与抖音或腾讯有商业往来。
: 不过，个人继续使用封信，暂时是没有问题的。
把老中商业都给封了，但是又没有具体的执行细节，这是典型的醉翁之意不在酒。这么做的主要目的是营造气氛。至于营造这个气氛要干什么，那只有蠢普心中了如指掌。
当初禁华为也不是发布了禁售伊朗之后马上就给爆了。这中间弄了很多年，包括老美自己要取证，等等。
这一系列动作是一个铺垫，营造一个氛围，走向终极目标。
找到原文了，不知道该怎样解读：any transaction that is related to WeChat ... with Tencent Holdings Ltd. ... or any subsidiary of that entity ...
不过老川确实有这个问题，说的东西不太清楚，往往可以有多种解读。
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-addressing-
threat-posed-wechat/
Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with
Tencent Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī),
Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the
Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order.
【 在 plff (bbb) 的大作中提到: 】
: 显然不是封公司，要不然直接加入实体名单就够了，那就是华为待遇。
: 腾讯那么大个公司，和美帝做生意的有无数家，怎么封？把他公司电脑的Intel CPU都
: 拿出来，微软系统都卸载吗？
: 这个只有等巨巨自己出来解释了
: "Shortly after issuing the order regarding TikTok, Trump issued a similar : order for WeChat, an group chat app owned by Tencent, a Chinese based
: company.
: For WeChat, which allows its users to transfer funds to each other, the
: order states it will ban financial transactions with Tencent. The order
: states "any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with
: ...................
不能发红包了？
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】
找到原文了，不知道该怎样解读：any transaction that is related to WeChat ... with Tencent Holdings Ltd. ... or any subsidiary of that entity ...
不过老川确实有这个问题，说的东西不太清楚，往往可以有多种解读。
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-addressing-
threat-posed-wechat/
Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with
Tencent Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī),
Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the
Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order.
【 在 plff (bbb) 的大作中提到: 】
: 显然不是封公司，要不然直接加入实体名单就够了，那就是华为待遇。
: 腾讯那么大个公司，和美帝做生意的有无数家，怎么封？把他公司电脑的Intel CPU都
: 拿出来，微软系统都卸载吗？
: 这个只有等巨巨自己出来解释了
: "Shortly after issuing the order regarding TikTok, Trump issued a similar : order for WeChat, an group chat app owned by Tencent, a Chinese based
: company.
: For WeChat, which allows its users to transfer funds to each other, the
: order states it will ban financial transactions with Tencent. The order
: states "any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with
: ...................
有可能，发红包可能算transaction了。也许收红包可以？
【 在 HighF (一灯) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不能发红包了？
我给包子出一招：买入大量aapl九月put，然后把果子在中国给禁了，又砸果子砸大盘
赚钱影响大选一个不误 LOL
你看印度怎么封的，你即使有app，不让你通过美国所有的网络登陆微信服务器端，彻
底死翘翘
【 在 wantage (abstract) 的大作中提到: 】
: 没法封，Android自己下一个就可以了，服务器不在美国它能怎么着。
直接把你帐号封了，资金没收
【 在 wantage (abstract) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我给包子出一招：买入大量aapl九月put，然后把果子在中国给禁了，又砸果子砸大盘
: 赚钱影响大选一个不误 LOL
收红包也算transaction，有来往记录就是违法了
以后再也不敢去群里抢红包了，只能看看了
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】
: 有可能，发红包可能算transaction了。也许收红包可以？
感觉还是施压呀。要封不是可以立刻生效么？45天内还是有变数吧。
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】
: 那样明天股市会崩的。关键是腾讯，几乎所有美国IT大公司都和腾讯有往来。
this will definitely lead to law suit, US is not china or india, banning
personal use of internet is like opening padora's box.
【 在 josephwangj (joseph) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你看印度怎么封的，你即使有app，不让你通过美国所有的网络登陆微信服务器端，彻
: 底死翘翘
re
大概率就是不能用wechat， Tiktok，微信和抖音没空管，基本都是华人在用。
看网上的分析，封腾讯对选票的影响，有可能还大于抖音，因为有很多在美国流行的手机游戏，是腾讯拥有或投资的，LOL。
感觉上，是不是有人给老川挖了一个大坑？从选举角度来说，封腾讯绝对是所得不多，但后患无穷的事情。
trump自己就是个大坑，脑袋一热就发总统政令。然后被人告。
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】
: 看网上的分析，封腾讯对选票的影响，有可能还大于抖音，因为有很多在美国流行的手
: 机游戏，是腾讯拥有或投资的，LOL。
: 感觉上，是不是有人给老川挖了一个大坑？从选举角度来说，封腾讯绝对是所得不多，
: 但后患无穷的事情。
美国根本就没有网络防火墙，你说的政府下令掐掉服务器连接这种事举个例子出来？网络故障不算啊
【 在 josephwangj (joseph) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你看印度怎么封的，你即使有app，不让你通过美国所有的网络登陆微信服务器端，彻
: 底死翘翘
subject to the jurisdiction of the United States,
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你仔细看原文，封的是公司，禁止任何美国公司或个人与抖音或腾讯有商业往来。
: 不过，个人继续使用封信，暂时是没有问题的。
特大喜讯
今后每天都有振奋人心的喜讯
三哥何德何能有此技术，连你弟都没有，笑死了
【 在 josephwangj (joseph) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你看印度怎么封的，你即使有app，不让你通过美国所有的网络登陆微信服务器端，彻
: 底死翘翘
:
:
: 【 在 wantage (abstract) 的大作中提到: 】
: : 没法封，Android自己下一个就可以了，服务器不在美国它能怎么着。
其实可以外包，马上就能把防火墙建起来，呵呵。
【 在 lsunspot (小手) 的大作中提到: 】
: 三哥何德何能有此技术，连你弟都没有，笑死了
不是说腾讯主动把印度用户封了吗？
前两年的维基泄漏，是被防火墙禁止访问了吗？
【 在 jabiru (Jabiru) 的大作中提到: 】
: 美国根本就没有网络防火墙，你说的政府下令掐掉服务器连接这种事举个例子出来？网
: 络故障不算啊