5 CEOs with the Biggest Payouts During the Global Financial Crisis Bailouts
Joseph Cassano – AIG Financial Products
Joseph Cassano isn’t one of the most highly publicized CEOs from the financial crisis, but was dubbed the “Man Who Crashed the World” as the head of AIG Financial Products, which was ground zero for the creation of the credit default swaps and related financial products that fanned the flames of the Great Recession. For more on the AIG Financial Products debacle (which brought down all of insurance giant AIG in September 2008), check out Roddy Boyd’s excellent book Fatal Risk a Cautionary Tale of AIG’s Corporate Suicide.
Mr. Cassano earned an estimated $34 million in bonuses in 2008, which swiftly went to negligible levels when AIG failed. One website estimated his current net worth at $200 million, which is par for the course on executives directly involved in creating the credit crisis. Or, namely, he profited handsomely and was allowed to keep a significant portion of his bonuses and salary earned leading up to the downturn.
A.I.G. Planning Huge Bonuses After $170 Billion Bailout
WASHINGTON — The American International Group, which has received more than $170 billion in taxpayer bailout money from the Treasury and Federal Reserve, plans to pay about $165 million in bonuses by Sunday to executives in the same business unit that brought the company to the brink of collapse last year.
【 在 lagolago (lagolago) 的大作中提到: 】 : 5 CEOs with the Biggest Payouts During the Global Financial Crisis Bailouts : Joseph Cassano – AIG Financial Products : Joseph Cassano isn’t one of the most highly publicized CEOs from the : financial crisis, but was dubbed the “Man Who Crashed the World” as the : head of AIG Financial Products, which was ground zero for the creation of : the credit default swaps and related financial products that fanned the : flames of the Great Recession. For more on the AIG Financial Products : debacle (which brought down all of insurance giant AIG in September 2008), : check out Roddy Boyd’s excellent book Fatal Risk a Cautionary Tale of AIG’ : s Corporate Suicide. : ...................
link就不贴了.
其实也不是真正意义上的做假账,而是manipulate.
大概意思就是说,tesla这个er的盈利不是真的盈利,而是用了一些会计手段,把盈利做出来.
如果仔细分析这个er的数据,你会发现,他卖车不赚钱.
根据他file给sec的report,北美销量暴跌,虽然中国那边销量把数弥补了上来,但是大家都知道,这是以前挤压的订单.
挤压订单发完了就完了,不可持续.
类似去年q4,赶着把挤压订单发完,给你做个盈利的er,然后连续创纪录亏损3个q.
下个er,华尔街给elon定的目标是eps $1.25 , 我就呵呵了.
纯技术探讨,欢迎特粉来发表一下看法.老邢员工请绕道.
我不懂，应该大家都能理解，合理利用会计规则。所以好多人都強调cash flow. 上个
季度特别斯拉cash flow 就是正的。特斯拉蠃不赢利不是会不会的问题，是什么时候的问题。你的立场决定了你的观点。
呵呵
说的是少报 warranty 问题，提高利润
结果很快被打脸了
因为有人检查了汽车整个行业
发现特斯拉报的比行业平均数还少
本来电车需要的warranty 就少于油车
另外，这么多空头
盯着这么仔细
如果特斯拉敢做假账
笑死我了
这恰恰表明空头开始绝望了
Tesla UP UP UP
这帐就看你想怎么算，想盈利，当然可以把账面做得漂亮一点，不见得算假账。
人家马斯克是个想拯救全人类的人，说他做假帐的只是小人之腹而已。马斯克的追求已经超越大多数的认知。这大慨是特黑根本不懂它的原因。特黑们整天纠缠电车也会压死蚂蚊。
【 在 Volvo12(隔壁老王) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: 这帐就看你想怎么算，想盈利，当然可以把账面做得漂亮一点，不见得算假账。
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呵呵，先把偷我们social security 里的几十个亿还回来再来说拯不拯救我们 呵呵
【 在 cimu (此木) 的大作中提到: 】
: 人家马斯克是个想拯救全人类的人，说他做假帐的只是小人之腹而已。马斯克的追求已
: 经超越大多数的认知。
:
: 这帐就看你想怎么算，想盈利，当然可以把账面做得漂亮一点，不见得算假账。
:
你说的是对的,那些质疑他"$420,funding secured",也是小人之腹的.
【 在 cimu (此木) 的大作中提到: 】
: 人家马斯克是个想拯救全人类的人，说他做假帐的只是小人之腹而已。马斯克的追求已
: 经超越大多数的认知。这大慨是特黑根本不懂它的原因。特黑们整天纠缠电车也会压死
: 蚂蚊。
:
: 这帐就看你想怎么算，想盈利，当然可以把账面做得漂亮一点，不见得算
: 假账。
:
是啊，政府bail out GM, AIG, 把我们的 social security, pension 全花光了
现在又来补贴特斯拉
LOCK THEM UP
GM,AIG CEO 没胆子自己给自己开几十亿的工资
烂B货
【 在 lagolago (lagolago) 的大作中提到: 】
: 是啊，政府bail out GM, AIG, 把我们的 social security, pension 全花光了
: 现在又来补贴特斯拉
: LOCK THEM UP
5 CEOs with the Biggest Payouts During the Global Financial Crisis Bailouts
Joseph Cassano – AIG Financial Products
Joseph Cassano isn’t one of the most highly publicized CEOs from the
financial crisis, but was dubbed the “Man Who Crashed the World” as the
head of AIG Financial Products, which was ground zero for the creation of
the credit default swaps and related financial products that fanned the
flames of the Great Recession. For more on the AIG Financial Products
debacle (which brought down all of insurance giant AIG in September 2008),
check out Roddy Boyd’s excellent book Fatal Risk a Cautionary Tale of AIG’s Corporate Suicide.
Mr. Cassano earned an estimated $34 million in bonuses in 2008, which
swiftly went to negligible levels when AIG failed. One website estimated
his current net worth at $200 million, which is par for the course on
executives directly involved in creating the credit crisis. Or, namely, he profited handsomely and was allowed to keep a significant portion of his
bonuses and salary earned leading up to the downturn.
A.I.G. Planning Huge Bonuses After $170 Billion Bailout
WASHINGTON — The American International Group, which has received more than $170 billion in taxpayer bailout money from the Treasury and Federal
Reserve, plans to pay about $165 million in bonuses by Sunday to executives in the same business unit that brought the company to the brink of collapse last year.
三千四百万和你老板的一年28个亿差的还远呢。
【 在 lagolago (lagolago) 的大作中提到: 】
: 5 CEOs with the Biggest Payouts During the Global Financial Crisis
Bailouts
: Joseph Cassano – AIG Financial Products
: Joseph Cassano isn’t one of the most highly publicized CEOs from the
: financial crisis, but was dubbed the “Man Who Crashed the World” as the : head of AIG Financial Products, which was ground zero for the creation of : the credit default swaps and related financial products that fanned the
: flames of the Great Recession. For more on the AIG Financial Products
: debacle (which brought down all of insurance giant AIG in September 2008),
: check out Roddy Boyd’s excellent book Fatal Risk a Cautionary Tale of AIG’
: s Corporate Suicide.
: ...................
AIG 花了政府170 billion
哈哈
lock him up
早还回去了，皮条客
【 在 lagolago (lagolago) 的大作中提到: 】
: AIG 花了政府170 billion
: 哈哈
: lock him up
哈哈
恼羞成怒了
咱以事实说话
不急不躁
事实摆在那里呢
你急啥？
这么没有教养
连两房都还回去了。你个翻墙特斯拉皮条客。
【 在 lagolago (lagolago) 的大作中提到: 】
: 哈哈
: 恼羞成怒了
: 咱以事实说话
: 不急不躁
: 事实摆在那里呢
: 你急啥？
: 这么没有教养
哈哈
恼羞成怒
只能说明自己没有教养
大家看的清楚呢
严重怀疑这哥们是前员工
【在 lagolago(lagolago)的大作中提到：】
：哈哈
：恼羞成怒
呵呵，你以为是个人都和你们一样喜欢犹太佬马斯克裤裆里的黄金？不好意思，大部分人嫌臭。
【 在 Pegasi (飞马座) 的大作中提到: 】
: 严重怀疑这哥们是前员工
: ：哈哈
: ：恼羞成怒
做假账算不上
但warranty这个和油车比没有意义，电车warranty小于油车也不一定，warranty多不多看你的质量控制，虽然电池部件少，但关键部件出问题也是要命的。尤其因为电车算是新型产业，用到的新技术新部件比较多，warranty高一点很正常。
问题时你不能上几个季度还用比较高的值，这个季度马上调低。那别人要问你调低的依据在哪里。否则就有故意为了报表好看的嫌疑。
【 在 lagolago (lagolago) 的大作中提到: 】
: 呵呵
: 说的是少报 warranty 问题，提高利润
: 结果很快被打脸了
: 因为有人检查了汽车整个行业
: 发现特斯拉报的比行业平均数还少
: 本来电车需要的warranty 就少于油车
: 另外，这么多空头
: 盯着这么仔细
: 如果特斯拉敢做假账
: 笑死我了
: ...................