Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day
“Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral activity,” Schwartz said. “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge economic and social impact.” https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could- be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
【 在 CoolTeeth (小石头) 的大作中提到: 】 : Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day : : “Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral activity, : ” Schwartz said. “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a : person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to : shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge economic : and social impact.” : : https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could- : be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
【 在 CoolTeeth (小石头) 的大作中提到: 】 : Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day : : “Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral activity, : ” Schwartz said. “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a : person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to : shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge economic : and social impact.” : : https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could- : be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
此外，Friedman对FDA的comments提到了fda另外一个弊端。也可能是原因之一 “that the regulatory process is inherently biased against approval of some worthy drugs, because the adverse effects of wrongfully banning a useful drug are undetectable, while the consequences of mistakenly approving a harmful drug are highly publicised and that therefore the FDA will take the action that will result in the least public condemnation of the FDA regardless of the health consequences.”
【 在 Dzeko (狼堡9号) 的大作中提到: 】 : 药是由fda批，医生不管用。我个人理解是现行的审批制度可能需要大规模双盲实验。 : 这个实验需要大量的资金。而医药公司由于这个药专利已经过期，没有动力做这个测试 : 。是fda体制的一个弊端。 : 此外，Friedman对FDA的comments提到了fda另外一个弊端。也可能是原因之一 : “that the regulatory process is inherently biased against approval of some : worthy drugs, because the adverse effects of wrongfully banning a useful : drug are undetectable, while the consequences of mistakenly approving a : harmful drug are highly publicised and that therefore the FDA will take the : action that will result in the least public condemnation of the FDA : regardless of the health consequences.”
【 在 CoolTeeth (小石头) 的大作中提到: 】 : Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day : : “Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral activity, : ” Schwartz said. “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a : person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to : shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge economic : and social impact.” : : https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could- : be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day
“Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral activity,” Schwartz said. “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to
shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge economic and social impact.”
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could-
be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
这是 trump 推那个吗，要是的话，白干了，没人信！
川普推的是HCQ，不是这个。这两种药很多前线医生都认为有用，医生去国会作证的时
候两种药都有说。这两种药都是出来了半个世纪了，便宜又安全。
【 在 cellcycle (vacoule) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这是 trump 推那个吗，要是的话，白干了，没人信！
这个消息太好了.
你给的链接没有内容
【 在 CoolTeeth (小石头) 的大作中提到: 】
: Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day
:
: “Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral
activity,
: ” Schwartz said. “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a
: person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to
: shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge
economic
: and social impact.”
:
: https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could-
: be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
这么便宜肯定会受到抵制啊。
制药公司没钱赚
【 在 CoolTeeth (小石头) 的大作中提到: 】
: Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day
:
: “Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral
activity,
: ” Schwartz said. “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a
: person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to
: shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge
economic
: and social impact.”
:
: https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could-
: be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
制药公司抵制，医生没有必要啊。
【 在 MaLaRabbit (麻辣兔子王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这么便宜肯定会受到抵制啊。
: 制药公司没钱赚
: activity,
: a
: economic
药是由fda批，医生不管用。我个人理解是现行的审批制度可能需要大规模双盲实验。
这个实验需要大量的资金。而医药公司由于这个药专利已经过期，没有动力做这个测试。是fda体制的一个弊端。
此外，Friedman对FDA的comments提到了fda另外一个弊端。也可能是原因之一
“that the regulatory process is inherently biased against approval of some worthy drugs, because the adverse effects of wrongfully banning a useful
drug are undetectable, while the consequences of mistakenly approving a
harmful drug are highly publicised and that therefore the FDA will take the action that will result in the least public condemnation of the FDA
regardless of the health consequences.”
【 在 Seventy6 (走着瞧，瞧着走) 的大作中提到: 】
: 制药公司抵制，医生没有必要啊。
新冠疫苗连动物试验都没有做完就用人身上了岂不是更过分？但是照样不耽误FDA批准
紧急使用授权
【 在 Dzeko (狼堡9号) 的大作中提到: 】
: 药是由fda批，医生不管用。我个人理解是现行的审批制度可能需要大规模双盲实验。
: 这个实验需要大量的资金。而医药公司由于这个药专利已经过期，没有动力做这个测试
: 。是fda体制的一个弊端。
: 此外，Friedman对FDA的comments提到了fda另外一个弊端。也可能是原因之一
: “that the regulatory process is inherently biased against approval of
some
: worthy drugs, because the adverse effects of wrongfully banning a useful
: drug are undetectable, while the consequences of mistakenly approving a
: harmful drug are highly publicised and that therefore the FDA will take
the
: action that will result in the least public condemnation of the FDA
: regardless of the health consequences.”
我刚点了链接，有内容啊
【 在 Seventy6 (走着瞧，瞧着走) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你给的链接没有内容
: activity,
: a
: economic
从专业角度
1. 这个研究只有47名患者，非常小的样本，结果容易受巧合因素干扰，并不足以得到
确切结论。伊维菌素做过很多类似的随机对照临床试验，以及把这些结果综合起来的
meta analysis，结果依然有争议，有可能有效，但肯定不是神药。需要后续更大规模
更高质量研究验证
2. 这个研究观察的是患者核酸转阴时间，大部分新冠轻症患者可以自愈，早几天和晚
几天好并不是特别重要的事情，而重要的是能否降低轻症转重症风险，以及轻症后遗症风险，这些都需要大规模更高质量研究才能评估
3. 真说目前为止数据比较好的针对轻症的口服药，fluvoxamine是我个人目前最看好的，https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2773108 152名患者的小型
RCT数据非常好，III期试验仍在进行中。这个药一个月的药量在美国自费也就二十多刀
【 在 CoolTeeth (小石头) 的大作中提到: 】
: Israeli scientist says COVID-19 could be treated for under $1/day
:
: “Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral
activity,
: ” Schwartz said. “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a
: person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to
: shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge
economic
: and social impact.”
:
: https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientist-says-covid-19-could-
: be-treated-for-under-1day-675612
大哥，一共89个人，一半对照组一半试验组。这怎么都比疫苗连动物试验都没做完就用人身上强吧？
【 在 mszzeta (星尘的残光) 的大作中提到: 】
: 从专业角度
: 1. 这个研究只有47名患者，非常小的样本，结果容易受巧合因素干扰，并不足以得到
: 确切结论。伊维菌素做过很多类似的随机对照临床试验，以及把这些结果综合起来的: meta analysis，结果依然有争议，有可能有效，但肯定不是神药。需要后续更大规模
: 更高质量研究验证
: 2. 这个研究观察的是患者核酸转阴时间，大部分新冠轻症患者可以自愈，早几天和晚
: 几天好并不是特别重要的事情，而重要的是能否降低轻症转重症风险，以及轻症后遗症
: 风险，这些都需要大规模更高质量研究才能评估
: 3. 真说目前为止数据比较好的针对轻症的口服药，fluvoxamine是我个人目前最看好的
: ，https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2773108 152名患者的小型
: ...................
这个无所谓了. 反正是哪一种没关系, 都不是疫苗.
【 在 mszzeta (星尘的残光) 的大作中提到: 】
: 从专业角度
: 1. 这个研究只有47名患者，非常小的样本，结果容易受巧合因素干扰，并不足以得到
: 确切结论。伊维菌素做过很多类似的随机对照临床试验，以及把这些结果综合起来的: meta analysis，结果依然有争议，有可能有效，但肯定不是神药。需要后续更大规模
: 更高质量研究验证
: 2. 这个研究观察的是患者核酸转阴时间，大部分新冠轻症患者可以自愈，早几天和晚
: 几天好并不是特别重要的事情，而重要的是能否降低轻症转重症风险，以及轻症后遗症
: 风险，这些都需要大规模更高质量研究才能评估
: 3. 真说目前为止数据比较好的针对轻症的口服药，fluvoxamine是我个人目前最看好的
: ，https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2773108 152名患者的小型
: ...................
疫苗III期试验在三万人中展开，投入使用后，已经在数亿人中使用，史上数据最充分
的产品了
【 在 CoolTeeth (小石头) 的大作中提到: 】
: 大哥，一共89个人，一半对照组一半试验组。这怎么都比疫苗连动物试验都没做完就用
: 人身上强吧？
数据如何呢？大把的各种短期副作用！长期的根本没人知道！这也叫OK？
【 在 mszzeta (星尘的残光) 的大作中提到: 】
: 疫苗III期试验在三万人中展开，投入使用后，已经在数亿人中使用，史上数据最充分
: 的产品了
反正吧，疫苗和新冠自己选一个试试。疫苗也许有长期副作用，也许没有。新冠呢，也许死，也许不死，也许变傻，也许不变，也许长期喘不过气，也许不会，自己看着办吧。自己选的路，就算作死也得含泪把自己埋了，对吧。
【 在 CoolTeeth (小石头) 的大作中提到: 】
: 数据如何呢？大把的各种短期副作用！长期的根本没人知道！这也叫OK？
是的，只要让个人有选择就行，自己的选择自己承担后果。还有，也不要封杀言论，不要搞一言堂，不要干涉医生开药治疗病人。
【 在 DreamTiger (钟爱你一生) 的大作中提到: 】
: 反正吧，疫苗和新冠自己选一个试试。疫苗也许有长期副作用，也许没有。新冠呢，也
: 许死，也许不死，也许变傻，也许不变，也许长期喘不过气，也许不会，自己看着办吧
: 。自己选的路，就算作死也得含泪把自己埋了，对吧。