印州前科凶手买枪居然成功,该控枪,控人还是改革FBI

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fishingarden
楼主 (未名空间)

棉花糖之流一看凶手用的是毛腿说的AR14,就赶紧出来吃人血馒头。殊不知现在爆出来凶手早有案底,丫的上一把长枪早被没收。

无知左派就是做事不考虑成本,哪怕毛腿吃了豹子胆,一夜禁止所有枪支交易,美国现存几亿枪支怎么办?政府买回?有那钱吗。

所以社会成本最低的方式还是控人,严厉打击非法枪支。现在主党议员力推的法律是一月只许买一把手枪,作秀而已没有意义。

话说回来,就算控枪,大规模屠杀在美国乃至世界就是一个永远的存在。人杀人这事发生了几亿年,只要人还在,大规模屠杀就在。革婆逃生了的大跃进这些,也算大屠杀哦。

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fishingarden
http://fox59.com/news/impd-says-assault-rifles-used-in-thursdays-mass-shooting-were-purchased-legally/amp/
http://nypost.com/2021/04/18/fedex-shooter-brandon-scott-hole-bought-guns-legally-last-year-police/amp/

枪支是枪手去年合法买的。

考虑到这枪手被家人报警过,有枪被警察没收过。联邦调查局的背景调查是搞笑的嘛,废了吧。

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rdfirdfi

If 2nd amendment is not repealed, mass shooting will continue.
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fishingarden

第二权如果真被取消,美国现存枪支能让大规模枪杀再继续一百年不止。

另外,打架斗殴入室抢劫这些暴力犯罪就会指数翻番,不信参见国内民居的防盗网。

可以这么说,枪支让美国人变得文明,吵架基本不动手。

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: If 2nd amendment is not repealed, mass shooting will continue.

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fishingarden

回想当年俺的背景调查花了好几个礼拜。。。。
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fishingarden

三月家人报警

四月FBI总结,枪支没收,人没事

七月通过背景检查,买一支AR14

九月再买一支

连家人都在报警的,FBI认为没事,这样的背景检查有任何意义没有。
http://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/04/18/us/indianapolis-shooting-fedex-sunday/index.html

peacemind2

FBI有任何人负责吗?
感觉就是FBI故意放任,搞大了好禁枪。
【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 三月家人报警
: 四月FBI总结,枪支没收,人没事
: 七月通过背景检查,买一支AR14
: 九月再买一支
: 连家人都在报警的,FBI认为没事,这样的背景检查有任何意义没有。
: http://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/04/18/us/indianapolis-shooting-fedex-sunday/index.html

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fishingarden

是哦。。。

政客当然狂推禁枪,然而不去追责联邦调查局却跟着起哄禁枪的无知屁民就是可笑又可怜了。

【 在 peacemind2 (土豆) 的大作中提到: 】
: FBI有任何人负责吗?
: 感觉就是FBI故意放任,搞大了好禁枪。

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hounddog

这个事,受害者家属应该联合起来起诉fbi。这是fbi不作为导致的。现在看,fbi已经
完全地政治化了,应该被defund。真正查案,没看到它们有用的。

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fishingarden

好建议,就看家属的了。

指望锡克族大头目是搞笑,今早新闻说丫呼吁枪支改革,要推广背景调查。

估计丫太着急上新闻。

【 在 hounddog (巴蒂) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这个事,受害者家属应该联合起来起诉fbi。这是fbi不作为导致的。现在看,fbi已经
: 完全地政治化了,应该被defund。真正查案,没看到它们有用的。

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hounddog

要找人给他们点子。这些锡克人都是新移民,有的小孩还在国内,靠这边寄工资回去养。没人指点,他们哪儿知道怎么办。到时候,来个狗放米,他们可能就算了。里面还有4个非移民受害者,两男两女,其中一个女的似乎是有色人种。要给点子,由他们带头
起诉,带着锡克人闹。看有没有律师主动找他们了。

【 在 fishingarden(Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】

: 好建议,就看家属的了。

: 指望锡克族大头目是搞笑,今早新闻说丫呼吁枪支改革,要推广背景调查。

: 估计丫太着急上新闻。

FortyNiner

That's why I keep saying gun control is not effective, though better than
nothing. We need to ban guns. Make it 1000 times more difficult for
civilians to get guns legally, then it will be 10,000 more difficult to get guns illegally. This won't stop all crimes, but at least it will be a lot
more difficult to kill someone, and pretty much nobody can accomplish
something close to what the shooters of LV, Sandy Hook and Virginia Tech
did.
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fishingarden

背景调查一事已经相信你一回了,还要进一步推全民禁枪啊。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: That's why I keep saying gun control is not effective, though better than : nothing. We need to ban guns. Make it 1000 times more difficult for
: civilians to get guns legally, then it will be 10,000 more difficult to
get
: guns illegally. This won't stop all crimes, but at least it will be a lot
: more difficult to kill someone, and pretty much nobody can accomplish
: something close to what the shooters of LV, Sandy Hook and Virginia Tech : did.

FortyNiner

As I said more than once yesterday, I believe eventually this will be what
it is. Now the majority of the victims of gun violence are average
Americans, and the VIPs don't really care about them. When the VIPs have
paid their fair share with lives of their own and their loved ones, when
there are more JFK, Reagan, and Giffords, they will want to ban gun. Then
it will be the time. Now, we might be tens of years away from it. Of
course, this might be just wishful thinking.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 背景调查一事已经相信你一回了,还要进一步推全民禁枪啊。
: get

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fishingarden

俺没看明白你要说啥。估摸着回吧。

任何社会问题的受害者都是弱势,枪支是,毒品也是。人亨特吸毒还能卖书赚钱呢,你行吗。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: As I said more than once yesterday, I believe eventually this will be what
: it is. Now the majority of the victims of gun violence are average
: Americans, and the VIPs don't really care about them. When the VIPs have : paid their fair share with lives of their own and their loved ones, when
: there are more JFK, Reagan, and Giffords, they will want to ban gun. Then
: it will be the time. Now, we might be tens of years away from it. Of
: course, this might be just wishful thinking.

FortyNiner

No wonder why you trumpers say you were improving your English comprehension when reading my "fifth-grade" English.
Here is the thread just posted yesterday.
>>>49人大大提高了我得英文水平

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 俺没看明白你要说啥。估摸着回吧。
: 任何社会问题的受害者都是弱势,枪支是,毒品也是。人亨特吸毒还能卖书赚钱呢,你
: 行吗。

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fishingarden

俺更搞不清楚你要说啥了。冤有头债有主,你能不能找博导报复啊。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: No wonder why you trumpers say you were improving your English
comprehension
: when reading my "fifth-grade" English.
: Here is the thread just posted yesterday.
: >>>49人大大提高了我得英文水平

FortyNiner

This is not revenge. I just start to understand his statement better now.
OK. Simply put it, when gun violence affects the upper class, we will have gun ban. Now the upper class are pretty much not affected by gun violence, they don't have to motivation to give up their rights and freedom.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 俺更搞不清楚你要说啥了。冤有头债有主,你能不能找博导报复啊。
: comprehension

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fishingarden

是的。

在第二权上,不才也认为老朽俺本人区区在下是上流社会分子。

其实要加入我们上流社会也不难,刚才为你查了一下,最便宜的手枪只要两百四十九块九毛九。革婆半年不逛一元店就买的起。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: This is not revenge. I just start to understand his statement better now.: OK. Simply put it, when gun violence affects the upper class, we will
have
: gun ban. Now the upper class are pretty much not affected by gun violence,
: they don't have to motivation to give up their rights and freedom.

FortyNiner

Here comes another Zuckerburg.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 是的。
: 在第二权上,不才也认为老朽俺本人区区在下是上流社会分子。
: 其实要加入我们上流社会也不难,刚才为你查了一下,最便宜的手枪只要两百四十九块
: 九毛九。革婆半年不逛一元店就买的起。
: have
: ,

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fishingarden

第二权这事谁先谁后不好说,说不定是扎克伯格跟随老王。
【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: Here comes another Zuckerburg.

FortyNiner

but once he does that, people will label him as the leader, not you 老王.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 第二权这事谁先谁后不好说,说不定是扎克伯格跟随老王。

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fishingarden

丫至少目前还没做吧。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: but once he does that, people will label him as the leader, not you 老王.

FortyNiner

neither do you.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 丫至少目前还没做吧。

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fishingarden

我做了,我在本版一再倡导第二权。还一眼就看出来番薯的钢板车枪纯属撒谎。

如果我做的不够,请指出来,我一定更加努力。
【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: neither do you.

FortyNiner

人轻言微。
Plus, you need more people like you. Also, need to step outside this
Chinese circle. We need more Chinese American in politics.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我做了,我在本版一再倡导第二权。还一眼就看出来番薯的钢板车枪纯属撒谎。
: 如果我做的不够,请指出来,我一定更加努力。

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fishingarden

像刘云平杨电诈那种亚裔政客,越少越好。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: 人轻言微。
: Plus, you need more people like you. Also, need to step outside this
: Chinese circle. We need more Chinese American in politics.

FortyNiner

Ted Lieu seems like an asshole, but Andrew Yang is a little better. Overall, I still prefer to have them standing out. They are the insignificant
minority, so they do things to please the majority. If there are enough
Asian American politicians, they will be a significant force by themselves
and don't need to make any sacrifice to please others. When you have a
large enough base, you can pick the best one from them.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 像刘云平杨电诈那种亚裔政客,越少越好。

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fishingarden

你是幼稚的种族分子。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: Ted Lieu seems like an asshole, but Andrew Yang is a little better.
Overall
: , I still prefer to have them standing out. They are the insignificant
: minority, so they do things to please the majority. If there are enough
: Asian American politicians, they will be a significant force by themselves
: and don't need to make any sacrifice to please others. When you have a
: large enough base, you can pick the best one from them.

FortyNiner

So when your race is suppressed and discriminated against, and you scream
out, you become a racist?

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你是幼稚的种族分子。
: Overall

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fishingarden

用种族政策对付歧视,你就是种族份子。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: So when your race is suppressed and discriminated against, and you scream : out, you become a racist?
:

FortyNiner

So when your race get discriminated, you need to keep quiet and just wait
for some outsider to show mercy to say it for you? You want someone from
your race to represent you and voice your concern, you become a racist? I
simply want more Asian American in politics, and that is racist? If that's the definition of racist, label me as much as you want.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 用种族政策对付歧视,你就是种族份子。

FortyNiner

Did you mean Caucasians cannot vote for another Caucasian, African American cannot vote for another African American, Latinos cannot vote for another
Latino, just like I should not vote for another Asian American, otherwise
they all become racists?

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 用种族政策对付歧视,你就是种族份子。

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fishingarden

看政策不看种族,标准就是这么简单。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: Did you mean Caucasians cannot vote for another Caucasian, African
American
: cannot vote for another African American, Latinos cannot vote for another : Latino, just like I should not vote for another Asian American, otherwise : they all become racists?

FortyNiner

Scroll back. When you called me a racist, you were responding to my post in which I said I want more Asian American politicians. Well, if you are
really that naive, tell people of other races to not vote for people of
their races because "看政策不看种族". Democracy is not given by others (
other races) on their mercy, you (your own race) got to fight for it.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 看政策不看种族,标准就是这么简单。
: American

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fishingarden

种族分子只用种族看世界。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: Scroll back. When you called me a racist, you were responding to my post in
: which I said I want more Asian American politicians. Well, if you are
: really that naive, tell people of other races to not vote for people of
: their races because "看政策不看种族". Democracy is not given by others (
: other races) on their mercy, you (your own race) got to fight for it.

FortyNiner

now you rely on name calling?

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 种族分子只用种族看世界。
: in

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fishingarden

你指责我name calling 是标准的 name calling。。。。。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: now you rely on name calling?

FortyNiner

Scroll back. What did I call you before you said I was a racist? So
convenient for you. When I point out that you called me a racist, you said that is "标准的 name calling".

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你指责我name calling 是标准的 name calling。。。。。

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fishingarden

我给了定义,种族分子只能用种族看世界。我都告诉你了台面上这些亚裔政客几乎个个垃圾。台面下的革婆也是不忍卒读。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: Scroll back. What did you call you before you said I was a racist? So
: convenient for you. When I point out that you called me a racist, you
said
: that is "标准的 name calling".

FortyNiner

Do you think the other politicians are too different from them? Most
politicians of color are fighting for their own races when their own people support them. If these Asian American politicians feel their positions are secured, they don't have to sacrifice their own roots to please the majority
. It is people like you, who even do not support their own politicians,
that make them feel unsecured and therefore need to please others to get
their support.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我给了定义,种族分子只能用种族看世界。我都告诉你了台面上这些亚裔政客几乎个个
: 垃圾。台面下的革婆也是不忍卒读。
: said

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fishingarden

加州医院赵美心,发文高院支持AA。这样的种族分子议员越少越好。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: Do you think the other politicians are too different from them? Most
: politicians of color are fighting for their own races when their own
people
: support them. If these Asian American politicians feel their positions
are
: secured, they don't have to sacrifice their own roots to please the
majority
: . It is people like you, who even do not support their own politicians,
: that make them feel unsecured and therefore need to please others to get
: their support.

FortyNiner

I did vote for Judy Chu, more than once. Even I don't like her and do not
agree with her most of the times, having her is still better than having
nothing. If you want to wait for a better/perfect Asian American candidate, there will be a long time before he/she emerges. And nobody will represent us and voice our concern before that. Really, if you move to my precinct
and come out to run and have a chance to beat her, I will vote for you.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 加州医院赵美心,发文高院支持AA。这样的种族分子议员越少越好。
: people
: are
: majority

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fishingarden

你为压迫亚裔小孩做出了杰出的贡献。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: I did vote for Judy Chu, more than once. Even I don't like her and do not
: agree with her most of the times, having her is still better than having
: nothing. If you want to wait for a better/perfect Asian American
candidate,
: there will be a long time before he/she emerges. And nobody will
represent
: us and voice our concern before that. Really, if you move to my precinct
: and come out to run and have a chance to beat her, I will vote for you.

FortyNiner

not as much as you who even do not vote for an Asian American and only
disparage them.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你为压迫亚裔小孩做出了杰出的贡献。
: candidate,
: represent

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fishingarden

俺支持的床铺提名的大法官们为禁止对亚裔小孩的歧视打下了坚实基础。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: not as much as you who even do not vote for an Asian American and only
: disparage them.

FortyNiner

I support Amy too. I even voted for Trump in 2016. So I can claim the same credit too.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 俺支持的床铺提名的大法官们为禁止对亚裔小孩的歧视打下了坚实基础。

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fishingarden

你是在表演左右互搏,魔音入脑。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: I support Amy too. I even voted for Trump in 2016. So I can claim the
same
: credit too.

FortyNiner

You trumpers are the ones skewed up. How many times do you need to be
reminded? Trump =/= GOP. You know that Trump was a Dem for eight years,
right?

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你是在表演左右互搏,魔音入脑。
: same

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fishingarden

原来床铺打入敌人内部才八年这么短啊。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: You trumpers are the ones skewed up. How many times do you need to be
: reminded? Trump =/= GOP. You know that Trump was a Dem for eight years, : right?

FortyNiner

A lot longer than a lot of trumpers here for being trumpers. See if they
can be loyal trumpers for eight years.

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 原来床铺打入敌人内部才八年这么短啊。

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fishingarden

坚持立场时间长短都无所谓,但表演一次左右互搏就是精神病。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: A lot longer than a lot of trumpers here for being trumpers. See if they : can be loyal trumpers for eight years.

FortyNiner

How about insisting other "表演一次左右互搏" while that person is telling
the truth? Is it 精神病?

【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 坚持立场时间长短都无所谓,但表演一次左右互搏就是精神病。

r
rihei

这不是不作为

是故意为之
原本估计是想让丫的在川普任上杀人吧,结果没想到等到了么毛腿

【 在 hounddog (巴蒂) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这个事,受害者家属应该联合起来起诉fbi。这是fbi不作为导致的。现在看,fbi已经
: 完全地政治化了,应该被defund。真正查案,没看到它们有用的。