厉害了 机枪扫射 2分钟8死8伤 (转载)

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guagua1220
楼主 (未名空间)

【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: gc01 (gc01), 信区: Military
标 题: 厉害了 机枪扫射 2分钟8死8伤
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 16 10:42:04 2021, 美东)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9477549/Multiple-victims-shooting-FedEx-facility-near-Indianapolis-airport.html

Eight people are killed and seven injured in two minute FedEx gun rampage:
Man opened fire with assault rifle in parking lot of Indianapolis facility
and continued firing as he walked inside before killing himself

h
hounddog

白痴等上台3个月不到,大规模枪击案发生了至少三次。msl的袭击,按照白痴等定义非恐袭,两次。其中一次是闯入国会打死打伤警察各一个。白痴等威武。

p
piggybank

为啥?被解雇了?
h
hqtrading

What race was the killer? White, black "white supremacist", muslim? Is
there an etc?

F
FortyNiner

Not enough to change the minds of those freedom-fighters (more specifically, gun freedom). Probably the only thing that can change their minds is gun
violence itself, in which they or their loved ones become victims.
F
FortyNiner

Again, no good guy with a gun appeared to stop the perpetrator. Looks like the gunman killed himself, does it qualify him as the "good guy with a gun"?
y
yongjiang

枪手是19岁的Brandon Scott Hole, 听起来像个白人,没有确认信息。死的都是当地
Sikh族的员工。 网上有个幸存者的照片,看起来像亚裔。
【 在 guagua1220 (guagua) 的大作中提到: 】
: 发信人: gc01 (gc01), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 厉害了 机枪扫射 2分钟8死8伤
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 16 10:42:04 2021, 美东)
: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9477549/Multiple-victims-shooting-FedEx-facility-near-Indianapolis-airport.html
: Eight people are killed and seven injured in two minute FedEx gun rampage:
: Man opened fire with assault rifle in parking lot of Indianapolis facility
: and continued firing as he walked inside before killing himself

e
emi

根据经验,如果是白人,照片早出来一堆了。没有照片,大家想想。

【 在 yongjiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: 枪手是19岁的Brandon Scott Hole, 听起来像个白人,没有确认信息。死的都是当地: Sikh族的员工。 网上有个幸存者的照片,看起来像亚裔。

y
yongjiang

don't jump to conclusion yet. 这个说是白人,最终怎样,要等等。 
https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1383185113324789762
【 在 emi (emi) 的大作中提到: 】
: 根据经验,如果是白人,照片早出来一堆了。没有照片,大家想想。

m
mitbbo

照片出来了
19岁白男
前雇员

【 在 yongjiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: don't jump to conclusion yet. 这个说是白人,最终怎样,要等等。 
: https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1383185113324789762

s
searchlyf

一修已经搞定 当然要快马加鞭搞定二修啦
W
Wodelixiang

你的第一句英文错了。

【 在 FortyNiner (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: Again, no good guy with a gun appeared to stop the perpetrator. Looks
like
: the gunman killed himself, does it qualify him as the "good guy with a gun"?
W
Wodelixiang

应该这样写
Apparently , there was no good guy stopping the perpetrator again this
time.

【 在 Wodelixiang (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你的第一句英文错了。
:
: 【 在 FortyNiner (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: : Again, no good guy with a gun appeared to stop the perpetrator.Looks
: like
: : the gunman killed himself, does it qualify him as the "good guy with a
gun
: "?
D
DreamTiger


指望雇员面对机枪,用自己的手枪拯救自己和旁人,是绝望中的希望。所以目前美国
现实国情决定事情应该从两方面解决,一个是鼓励合法隐蔽或者公开持枪,一方面是
限制或者取消大规模杀伤性枪支。

【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: 应该这样写
: Apparently , there was no good guy stopping the perpetrator again this
: time.
: gun

W
Wodelixiang

最好能禁止杀伤力很大的枪。以及要彻查平估持枪人的精神以及人际交往状态。

【 在 DreamTiger (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: 指望雇员面对机枪,用自己的手枪拯救自己和旁人,是绝望中的希望。所以目前美国: 现实国情决定事情应该从两方面解决,一个是鼓励合法隐蔽或者公开持枪,一方面是: 限制或者取消大规模杀伤性枪支。
:
: 【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: : 应该这样写
: : Apparently , there was no good guy stopping the perpetrator again this
: : time.
: : gun
h
hounddog

在猪党defund police,导致治安大幅恶化的情况下谈控枪就是扯淡。我本来不反对控
枪的。但自2020年antifa,blm的骚乱,猪党的defund police起,我现在反对控枪。等什么时候law and order不被作弊们当法西斯,什么时候治安好转,注意,不是猪党那
种抓了就放,重罪当轻罪的所谓犯罪率下降,什么时候有充分警力来保护普通老百姓了,再谈控枪吧。

W
Wodelixiang

讲的也对,两难抉择呢。

【 在 hounddog (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: 在猪党defund police,导致治安大幅恶化的情况下谈控枪就是扯淡。我本来不反对控
: 枪的。但自2020年antifa,blm的骚乱,猪党的defund police起,我现在反对控枪。等
: 什么时候law and order不被作弊们当法西斯,什么时候治安好转,注意,不是猪党那
: 种抓了就放,重罪当轻罪的所谓犯罪率下降,什么时候有充分警力来保护普通老百姓了
: ,再谈控枪吧。
D
DreamTiger


控枪影响到你去买枪了?影响到你自卫了?这就跟左派反对投票检查ID一样,不检查ID只是方便了一些不守法的人罢了。查背景,查精神状态,对一般人而言,没有什么大不了的事情。至于那些assualt weapon,几乎绝大部分最近的mass shooting都是用的
这些,而那些自卫用这些枪支的比例却很低,这就说明一点,对这些枪支不进行管控弊大于利。

任何地方都有左派右派中间派。不能因为一个地方左派多了,所有人死得都是活该。

【 在 hounddog (巴蒂) 的大作中提到: 】
: 在猪党defund police,导致治安大幅恶化的情况下谈控枪就是扯淡。我本来不反对控
: 枪的。但自2020年antifa,blm的骚乱,猪党的defund police起,我现在反对控枪。等
: 什么时候law and order不被作弊们当法西斯,什么时候治安好转,注意,不是猪党那
: 种抓了就放,重罪当轻罪的所谓犯罪率下降,什么时候有充分警力来保护普通老百姓了
: ,再谈控枪吧。

h
hounddog

美国现在至少有两种做事方式,一种是正常人的,一种是猪党的。你说的不影响我的控枪,是正常人的。可是猪党的是不一样的。它们的控枪,里面不知道会夹带多少私货。就像解决治安问题,正常人的是增加警力,猪党的是defund police。不要扯什么左中
右。猪党这些defund police,硬毒品去罪化之类的操作,连左派都算不上。你告诉我
哪个左派国家defund police了,哪个左派国家硬毒品去罪化了。猪党烂州严格控枪,
前几年记得看到报道,旧金山唯一的枪店都关门了。你告诉我不影响正常人买枪?严格
控枪的猪党烂州,枪支犯罪率下降了?你是在说芝加哥吗?不要把你大脑里想的控枪当
成是猪党的控枪。这么多年美国政治,最明显的一点就是,标题和内容从来不符,尤以猪党的为盛。

【 在 DreamTiger(钟爱你一生) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: 控枪影响到你去买枪了?影响到你自卫了?这就跟左派反对投票检查ID一样,不
检查ID
<br>: 只是方便了一些不守法的人罢了。查背景,查精神状态,对一般人而言,没有什
么大不
<br>: 了的事情。至于那些assualt weapon,几乎绝大部分最近的mass
shooting都是
用的
<br>: 这些,而那些自卫用这些枪支的比例却很低,这就说明一点,对这些枪支不进行
管控弊
<br>: 大于利。
<br>: 任何地方都有左派右派中间派。不能因为一个地方左派多了,所有人死得都是活
该。
<br>

F
FortyNiner

Are you sure?
What is I change it to "No good guy with a gun came into sign to stop ...?"
Is this sentence wrong?

【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: 你的第一句英文错了。
: like
: "?

F
FortyNiner

>>>there was no good guy stopping
This is more Chinese English, though it is not wrong.

【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: 应该这样写
: Apparently , there was no good guy stopping the perpetrator again this
: time.
: gun

D
DreamTiger


湾区买枪经历,实名ID验证,考枪证,买枪,背景调查,正常流程走走,
没啥特别。只要你不是明天歹徒要上门,今天着急买枪,没啥买不到的
说法。
https://www.dealmoon.com/guide/937104

我也反对defund police,脑残的做法,但这跟控枪放在一起,你这不
是也在夹带私货么。

【 在 hounddog (巴蒂) 的大作中提到: 】
: 美国现在至少有两种做事方式,一种是正常人的,一种是猪党的。你说的不影响我的控
: 枪,是正常人的。可是猪党的是不一样的。它们的控枪,里面不知道会夹带多少私货。
: 就像解决治安问题,正常人的是增加警力,猪党的是defund police。不要扯什么左中
: 右。猪党这些defund police,硬毒品去罪化之类的操作,连左派都算不上。你告诉我
: 哪个左派国家defund police了,哪个左派国家硬毒品去罪化了。猪党烂州严格控枪,
: 前几年记得看到报道,旧金山唯一的枪店都关门了。你告诉我不影响正常人买枪?严格
: 控枪的猪党烂州,枪支犯罪率下降了?你是在说芝加哥吗?不要把你大脑里想的控枪当
: 成是猪党的控枪。这么多年美国政治,最明显的一点就是,标题和内容从来不符,尤以
: 猪党的为盛。
:
: 控枪影响到你去买枪了?影响到你自卫了?这就跟左派反对投票检查ID一
: ...................

F
FortyNiner

Gun control is not very effective, just better than nothing. Before his/her first crime, most perpetrators can pass the background check to buy guns
legally.

【 在 DreamTiger (钟爱你一生) 的大作中提到: 】
: 湾区买枪经历,实名ID验证,考枪证,买枪,背景调查,正常流程走走,
: 没啥特别。只要你不是明天歹徒要上门,今天着急买枪,没啥买不到的
: 说法。
: https://www.dealmoon.com/guide/937104
: 我也反对defund police,脑残的做法,但这跟控枪放在一起,你这不
: 是也在夹带私货么。

W
Wodelixiang

你的两个回复都是用no,not 开头的。读起来拗口不说。没人这么写的。这段第一句更
不行。连语法也错了。

There is no amount of doubt that can change the mind of ....

【 在 FortyNiner (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: Not enough to change the minds of those freedom-fighters (more
specifically,
: gun freedom). Probably the only thing that can change their minds is gun
: violence itself, in which they or their loved ones become victims.
D
DreamTiger


先把assualt weapon禁了,虽然可能不能完全防止脑残杀人,但至少可以降低
mass shooting的死亡人数。

美国社会现状,边境跟漏洞一样,枪支走私太容易了,社会上的黑枪也收不了,
老百姓家防用枪也是必然的,谈完全禁枪属于镜花水月。

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: Gun control is not very effective, just better than nothing. Before his/
her
: first crime, most perpetrators can pass the background check to buy guns : legally.

W
Wodelixiang

Gun control is less effective, but is better than doing nothing.

【 在 FortyNiner (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: Gun control is not very effective, just better than nothing. Before his/
her
: first crime, most perpetrators can pass the background check to buy guns : legally.
:
: 【 在 DreamTiger (钟爱你一生) 的大作中提到: 】
: : 湾区买枪经历,实名ID验证,考枪证,买枪,背景调查,正常流程走走,
: : 没啥特别。只要你不是明天歹徒要上门,今天着急买枪,没啥买不到的
: : 说法。
: : https://www.dealmoon.com/guide/937104
: : 我也反对defund police,脑残的做法,但这跟控枪放在一起,你这不
: : 是也在夹带私货么。
D
DreamTiger


头痛医头,脚痛医脚,虽说不能彻底解决问题,就当苟延残喘也行,总
比啥都不做好。朋友聊天都说,就这样子以后美国国旗的旗杆只做一半
就够了,省得降了。

【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: Gun control is less effective, but is better than doing nothing.

W
Wodelixiang

我给你改一下。读着就会有美国人说话的感觉。

Gun control is less effective, but it is better than doing nothing.
Unfortunately, before the perpetrators committ their first offenses, they
will probably have passed their background check to buy guns .

【 在 FortyNiner (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: Gun control is not very effective, just better than nothing. Before his/
her
: first crime, most perpetrators can pass the background check to buy guns : legally.
:
: 【 在 DreamTiger (钟爱你一生) 的大作中提到: 】
: : 湾区买枪经历,实名ID验证,考枪证,买枪,背景调查,正常流程走走,
: : 没啥特别。只要你不是明天歹徒要上门,今天着急买枪,没啥买不到的
: : 说法。
: : https://www.dealmoon.com/guide/937104
: : 我也反对defund police,脑残的做法,但这跟控枪放在一起,你这不
: : 是也在夹带私货么。
F
FortyNiner

Twenty some years ago when I took my three English classes at college, I
double-checked and triple checked. Now, I don't give a hook. If people
find my English difficult to understand, they are free to skip my posts. If they laugh at my "fifth-grade" English, feel free. However, if you want to offer me free tutor in English, note that I get all A's in those three
college English courses, one emphasizes in grammar, one composition, and one technical writing. I doubt if you have taken any real English class at
college in the US.

【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: 你的两个回复都是用no,not 开头的。读起来拗口不说。没人这么写的。这段第一句更
: 不行。连语法也错了。
: There is no amount of doubt that can change the mind of ....
: specifically,

W
Wodelixiang

我支持严格审查。不能买攻击性武器。

【 在 DreamTiger (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: 头痛医头,脚痛医脚,虽说不能彻底解决问题,就当苟延残喘也行,总
: 比啥都不做好。朋友聊天都说,就这样子以后美国国旗的旗杆只做一半
: 就够了,省得降了。
:
:
: 【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: : Gun control is less effective, but is better than doing nothing.
W
Wodelixiang

你要写就应该写好。让大学觉得你是认真的。否则为啥要用英语写。

【 在 FortyNiner (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: Twenty some years ago when I took my three English classes at college, I
: double-checked and triple checked. Now, I don't give a hook. If people
: find my English difficult to understand, they are free to skip my posts. If
: they laugh at my "fifth-grade" English, feel free. However, if you want to
: offer me free tutor in English, note that I get all A's in those three
: college English courses, one emphasizes in grammar, one composition, and
one
: technical writing. I doubt if you have taken any real English class at
: college in the US.
:
: 【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: : 你的两个回复都是用no,not 开头的。读起来拗口不说。没人这么写的。这段第一
句更
: : 不行。连语法也错了。
: : There is no amount of doubt that can change the mind of ....
: : specifically,
F
FortyNiner

I am fine with people, especially trumpers, calling my English "fifth-grade"
. My Chinese is better than my English, but I type at least five times
faster in English than in Chinese. I can type this post in two or three
minutes, almost as fast as I organize my thoughts to words, and I don't want to spend ten or fifteen minutes to type it in Chinese.

【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: 你要写就应该写好。让大学觉得你是认真的。否则为啥要用英语写。
: If
: to
: one
: 句更

b
bata

你不知道就别瞎BB,这件事发生在“Gun Free Zone”。守法的雇员都不带枪

【 在 FortyNiner(Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
<br>: Again, no good guy with a gun appeared to stop the perpetrator. Looks
like
<br>: the gunman killed himself, does it qualify him as the "good guy with a
gun"?
<br>

b
bata

标题“机枪扫射”有误,写这篇文章的人或者不知道什么是“机枪”“扫射”,或者是故意误导别人。

F
FortyNiner

Look at all the twenty or thirty mass shootings the last month or two, how
many of them were in GFZ? How many was stopped by a good guy with gun? A
few of them were actually stopped by the gunmen when they turned their guns at themselves. Seems "the bad guy might use the gun to kill himself" is a
stronger argument than "a good guy might use a gun for self defense".

【 在 bata (0451) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你不知道就别瞎BB,这件事发生在“Gun Free Zone”。守法的雇员都不带枪
:
: Again, no good guy with a gun appeared to stop the perpetrator.
: Looks
: like
:
: the gunman killed himself, does it qualify him as the "good
: guy with a
: gun"?
:

W
Wodelixiang

最后一句不应该这么写,改成 It seems like that a bad guy might use a gun to kill himself is a stronger argument than that to defend for himself.

不要整个句对整句的。

【 在 FortyNiner (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: Look at all the twenty or thirty mass shootings the last month or two, how
: many of them were in GFZ? How many was stopped by a good guy with gun? A
: few of them were actually stopped by the gunmen when they turned their
guns
: at themselves. Seems "the bad guy might use the gun to kill himself" is a
: stronger argument than "a good guy might use a gun for self defense".
:
: 【 在 bata (0451) 的大作中提到: 】
: : 你不知道就别瞎BB,这件事发生在“Gun Free Zone”。守法的雇员都不带枪
: : : Again, no good guy with a gun appeared to stop the perpetrator.
: : Looks
: : like
: : : the gunman killed himself, does it qualify him as the "good
: : guy with a
: : gun"?
: :
F
FortyNiner

How many English courses did you take at college in teh US?

【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: 最后一句不应该这么写,改成 It seems like that a bad guy might use a gun to
: kill himself is a stronger argument than that to defend for himself.
: 不要整个句对整句的。
: guns

W
Wodelixiang

在美国读过书的。很多年。

【 在 FortyNiner (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: How many English courses did you take at college in teh US?
:
: 【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: : 最后一句不应该这么写,改成 It seems like that a bad guy might use a gun
: to
: : kill himself is a stronger argument than that to defend for himself.
: : 不要整个句对整句的。
: : guns
F
FortyNiner

Direct answer please. Don't use this spring-autumn writing technique.
Most people on MITBBS have never taken a real English class at college in
the US, though they got their phd here.

【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: 在美国读过书的。很多年。

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Wodelixiang

我没有读研究生,计算机专业没人读的,我就读英语和专业进修,为了考证书。

【 在 Wodelixiang (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: 在美国读过书的。很多年。
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: 【 在 FortyNiner (null) 的大作中提到: 】
: : How many English courses did you take at college in teh US?
: :
: : 【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: : : 最后一句不应该这么写,改成It seems like that a bad guy might use a gun: : to
: : :kill himself is a stronger argument than that to defend for himself.
: : : 不要整个句对整句的。
: : : guns
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FortyNiner

Are you majored in English? Otherwise I won't take you serious.
I took two years of English at high school in the US, then three English
courses at college. Don't remember the grades at HS, but I got A's in all
the three courses at college. I have been working for over twenty years,
part of my job is bullshiting, and I am in constant communication with one
to two hundred other people every day, half in writing and half verbally.
The last English class I took, I am sure that no more than 15% of US
population have taken an English course tougher than it. So I am confident that my English is better than 85% or 90% of the people here on MITBBS.
However, if you major in English, or if you are one of the few talented in
language, I will say my English is just fifth-grade level.
When you are writing for your class for a good grade, you want to do
everything perfect. Now I am beyond that. Sometimes I double check, but
more often I even don't bother.

【 在 Wodelixiang () 的大作中提到: 】
: 我没有读研究生,计算机专业没人读的,我就读英语和专业进修,为了考证书。