福奇痛斥Redfield

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wang9
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Redfield信口雌黄,无中生有,说新冠病毒是共党的实验室出来的。

好事的记者,就去问Redfield的好朋友福奇,福奇斩钉截铁说不可能,就差说老朋友喝多了。Redfield的后任,CDC的director,也说一切听WHO的。

新冠病毒是共党的实验室出来的谣言,是老李,老郭那帮人搞的。这些人的谣言,连
Redfield都信了,严重干扰了美国的抗疫工作,直接导致了五十多万美国人的死亡。

iminosugar

Fauci is 100% at fault for COVID-19. You just don’t believe a criminal,
because you can’t.
p
potassium

fauci is in panic mode.

【 在 iminosugar (伪糖) 的大作中提到: 】
: Fauci is 100% at fault for COVID-19. You just don’t believe a criminal,
: because you can’t.

FortyNiner

You can blame Fauci for what he did or did not last Feb and March. But
since last April, he was in the right direction. People who were in the
wrong direction since then and till this Jan or even now have NO right to
blame him, they only have excuses.

【 在 iminosugar (伪糖) 的大作中提到: 】
: Fauci is 100% at fault for COVID-19. You just don’t believe a criminal,
: because you can’t.

M
MajiaC

原文在哪儿 ?

老王胡诌吗 ?

【 在 wang9 (老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: Redfield信口雌黄,无中生有,说新冠病毒是共党的实验室出来的。
: 好事的记者,就去问Redfield的好朋友福奇,福奇斩钉截铁说不可能,就差说老朋友喝
: 多了。Redfield的后任,CDC的director,也说一切听WHO的。
: 新冠病毒是共党的实验室出来的谣言,是老李,老郭那帮人搞的。这些人的谣言,连: Redfield都信了,严重干扰了美国的抗疫工作,直接导致了五十多万美国人的死亡。

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rdfirdfi

Fauci funded 共党的实验室
He has a conflict of interest here.

【 在 wang9 (老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: Redfield信口雌黄,无中生有,说新冠病毒是共党的实验室出来的。
: 好事的记者,就去问Redfield的好朋友福奇,福奇斩钉截铁说不可能,就差说老朋友喝
: 多了。Redfield的后任,CDC的director,也说一切听WHO的。
: 新冠病毒是共党的实验室出来的谣言,是老李,老郭那帮人搞的。这些人的谣言,连: Redfield都信了,严重干扰了美国的抗疫工作,直接导致了五十多万美国人的死亡。

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rdfirdfi

So you believe in Fauci. Please wear two masks, and lock yourself down until EVERYONE is vaccinated.

Fauci should be hanged.

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: You can blame Fauci for what he did or did not last Feb and March. But
: since last April, he was in the right direction. People who were in the
: wrong direction since then and till this Jan or even now have NO right to : blame him, they only have excuses.

SQL


vhttps://www.youtube.com/watch/v/MqQIY7J0fQ

【 在 iminosugar (伪糖) 的大作中提到: 】
: Fauci is 100% at fault for COVID-19. You just don’t believe a criminal,
: because you can’t.

FortyNiner

Did he say the exact thing, or did people interpret it this way?
Anyway, there are things that I agree on, but that does not mean I am
necessarily doing them. For example, I know I should not stay up late at
night so often, but I still do it. I know it will be more healthy for me to do more exercise, but ...

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: So you believe in Fauci. Please wear two masks, and lock yourself down
until
: EVERYONE is vaccinated.
: Fauci should be hanged.

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rdfirdfi

Two masks:https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/25/dr-fauci-double-mask-during-covid-makes-
common-sense-more-effective.html

If 75 percent to 80 percent of Americans are vaccinated... then the U.S.
should reach the herd immunity threshold months later.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/12/anthony-fauci-offers-a-
timeline-for-ending-covid-19-pandemic/#:~:text=Health%20%26%20Medicine-,
Fauci%20says%20herd%20immunity%20possible%20by%20fall%2C%20'normality'%20by,of%20Allergy%20and%20Infectious%20Diseases.

US has 74 million people 18 or younger (~20%). To reach 80% of Americans
vaccinated is about to ask all adults getting vaccinated.

I don't think I bent Fauci's word very much.

You may choose not to follow Fauci's word, which will make you a disbeliever of Fauci. Welcome to the club.

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: Did he say the exact thing, or did people interpret it this way?
: Anyway, there are things that I agree on, but that does not mean I am
: necessarily doing them. For example, I know I should not stay up late at : night so often, but I still do it. I know it will be more healthy for me to
: do more exercise, but ...
: until

FortyNiner

My understanding is, he recommends that wearing two masks provides more
protection. I am fine with wearing one myself when people around me are all wearing masks. You are saying that that puts me on the other side of Fauci
? Because I do not exercise as much as my doctor recommends, you are saying I am not a believer of my doctor or the medical world?

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: Two masks:
: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/25/dr-fauci-double-mask-during-covid-makes-
: common-sense-more-effective.html
: If 75 percent to 80 percent of Americans are vaccinated... then the U.S.
: should reach the herd immunity threshold months later.
: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/12/anthony-fauci-offers-a-
: timeline-for-ending-covid-19-pandemic/#:~:text=Health%20%26%20Medicine-,
: Fauci%20says%20herd%20immunity%20possible%20by%20fall%2C%20'normality'%
20by,
: of%20Allergy%20and%20Infectious%20Diseases.
: US has 74 million people 18 or younger (~20%). To reach 80% of Americans
: ...................

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luminb

There we go with the “my understanding is...” again

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: My understanding is, he recommends that wearing two masks provides more
: protection. I am fine with wearing one myself when people around me are
all
: wearing masks. You are saying that that puts me on the other side of
Fauci
: ? Because I do not exercise as much as my doctor recommends, you are
saying
: I am not a believer of my doctor or the medical world?
: 20by,

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laoselang

这个老王八蛋,被tg收买了?
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rdfirdfi

If you are a believer, you do everything who you believe said.

My doctor would suggest me to take a flu vaccine every year. I don't. Can I still claim I believe my doctor?

I do wear a mask myself in the public, does that make me a believer to Fauci?

If you don't do everything Fauci said, it means that you are thinking
independently, like myself. I will not do/don't do things because of Fauci's words. And I think many Fauci's words are wrong/misleading. As the "top
infectious disease expert" and the "top medical advisor" of USA, I don't
think this rate of wrongness is tolerable. In China, if one made such
mistake like asking people to wear no masks, they will lose their job for
sure.

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: My understanding is, he recommends that wearing two masks provides more
: protection. I am fine with wearing one myself when people around me are
all
: wearing masks. You are saying that that puts me on the other side of
Fauci
: ? Because I do not exercise as much as my doctor recommends, you are
saying
: I am not a believer of my doctor or the medical world?
: 20by,

FortyNiner

Is my understanding wrong? Other than saying wearing two masks "is likely" to provide more protection than wearing one, did Fauci try to make CDC
mandate it? I use "my understanding" humbly, you do not use it, but all
your opinions are also based on "your understanding" too. Do you really
believe what you think and say are universal axioms? If my understanding is wrong, just point it out.


【 在 luminb (Gooder) 的大作中提到: 】
: There we go with the “my understanding is...” again
: all
: Fauci
: saying

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rdfirdfi

If the virus is indeed made by "gain-of-function" experiment conducted by
Wuhan Institute of Virology, as Redfield suggested, Fauci is not clean. The project is funded by NIAID, where Fauci is the director.

【 在 laoselang (LAOSELANG(好吧,别打了,我就是兔子)) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这个老王八蛋,被tg收买了?

FortyNiner

I am an independent critical thinker, but that doe not mean I have to
disagree with Fauci now. As of now, I agree with him on mask. Actually,
even last Feb and March, I tried to convinced people around me, as well as
here on MITBBS, that mask are effective against covid, though I did not know numerically the effectiveness. So at that time, I did not agree with Fauci and CDC. At that time, I also said I wouldn't be surprised if one day CDC changed its recommendation on mask. Almost all posts at that time were
deleted by MITBBS, I can find only one of mine that kind of backs me up.

发信人: FortyNiner (Niner), 信区: Faculty
标 题: Re: 指南只说不需要带,没说带了有害 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 11 23:58:31 2020, 美东)

CDC does not recommend healthy people to wear face mask, but some people/
media distort it to let people think CDC recommend against healthy people
wearing face mask.
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luminb

If I want to make a statement, I use references. If I trash talk, I say
whatever. You use your gut feeling for both. That is the difference

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: Is my understanding wrong? Other than saying wearing two masks "is likely"
: to provide more protection than wearing one, did Fauci try to make CDC
: mandate it? I use "my understanding" humbly, you do not use it, but all
: your opinions are also based on "your understanding" too. Do you really
: believe what you think and say are universal axioms? If my understanding is
: wrong, just point it out.
:

FortyNiner

"You believe something" does not mean "you have to follow it". There are
way too many examples, and you can find many from yourself. Not following
it does not automatically or necessarily mean you don't believe it.

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: If you are a believer, you do everything who you believe said.
: My doctor would suggest me to take a flu vaccine every year. I don't. Can I
: still claim I believe my doctor?
: I do wear a mask myself in the public, does that make me a believer to
Fauci?
: If you don't do everything Fauci said, it means that you are thinking
: independently, like myself. I will not do/don't do things because of Fauci's
: words. And I think many Fauci's words are wrong/misleading. As the "top
: infectious disease expert" and the "top medical advisor" of USA, I don't
: think this rate of wrongness is tolerable. In China, if one made such
: mistake like asking people to wear no masks, they will lose their job for : ...................

puregrace

再接再厉哈
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rdfirdfi

OK. Let me ask you this:
Do you believe every word Fauci said?

If yes, you are a believer of Fauci.

If no, you can be an independent thinker.

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: "You believe something" does not mean "you have to follow it". There are : way too many examples, and you can find many from yourself. Not following
: it does not automatically or necessarily mean you don't believe it.
: I
: Fauci?
: 's

FortyNiner

You are kidding me. Any reasonable person will not believe everything
another person says. Even my second-grader son does not believe everything I say. In my previous post, I said last Feb and March I already tried to
convince people that mask is an effective but cheap tool against covid,
obviously I disagreed with Fauci and CDC at that time. I agree with Fauci
on mask at this time.

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: OK. Let me ask you this:
: Do you believe every word Fauci said?
: If yes, you are a believer of Fauci.
: If no, you can be an independent thinker.

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rdfirdfi

In that sense, I agree with Fauci that people should wear a mask to slow the spread of Covid.

But I still think Fauci should be hanged. As Biden said, WORDS MATTER!

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: You are kidding me. Any reasonable person will not believe everything
: another person says. Even my second-grader son does not believe
everything
: I say. In my previous post, I said last Feb and March I already tried to : convince people that mask is an effective but cheap tool against covid,
: obviously I disagreed with Fauci and CDC at that time. I agree with Fauci
: on mask at this time.

FortyNiner

And your reference for this post? Where is it? Even you are using
reference, you are still interpreting it, and there goes the "understanding".
The one post of mine that you accused me of "my understanding", I was
responding after the linked article, isn't that the reference? It was my
understanding after I read the article. Did you read it? Right, if you did not read it, there is no such thing as "your understanding." If you read
it, what is your interpretation? Don't tell me that what you got from the
article is not "your understanding" of the article.

【 在 luminb (Gooder) 的大作中提到: 】
: If I want to make a statement, I use references. If I trash talk, I say
: whatever. You use your gut feeling for both. That is the difference
: "
: is

FortyNiner

If you say "Fauci should be hanged" for what he did last Feb and March
regarding covid, I agree with you on that he was wrong during that time
frame, but I don't agree with you on that he deserves to be hanged because
then Trump deserves more than Fauci for what he did from last April to today
. Fauci is only a medical advisor, he is not a decision maker. Trump is
the decision maker. Fauci was wrong for two months, but after these two
months Trump was still wrong for another nine or ten months while he was
still in power and American people were paying the price for his decisions.

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: In that sense, I agree with Fauci that people should wear a mask to slow
the
: spread of Covid.
: But I still think Fauci should be hanged. As Biden said, WORDS MATTER!
: everything

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luminb


You clearly can not distinguish what is a statement and what is trash talk. This reflects your lack of education and abstract thinking

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: And your reference for this post? Where is it? Even you are using
: reference, you are still interpreting it, and there goes the "
understanding".
: The one post of mine that you accused me of "my understanding", I was
: responding after the linked article, isn't that the reference? It was my : understanding after I read the article. Did you read it? Right, if you
did
: not read it, there is no such thing as "your understanding." If you read
: it, what is your interpretation? Don't tell me that what you got from the
: article is not "your understanding" of the article.

FortyNiner

Don't forget that when you are pointing a finger at me, four of your fingers are point right back at yourself. This is an exact example. You are doing that to yourself, I don't even need to point finger at you. How convenient!

【 在 luminb (Gooder) 的大作中提到: 】
: You clearly can not distinguish what is a statement and what is trash talk.
: This reflects your lack of education and abstract thinking
: understanding".
: did

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rdfirdfi

You are deflecting the logic.
I don't care if Trump should be hanged. Maybe he deserves that. But that's
not the topic. Besides, Trump already lost his job.

Fauci did not pay for his missteps yet. At least he should apologize, which he didn't.

You said Fauci is not a decision maker, but WORDS MATTER!

Fauci's only right move is to ask people to wear masks. THAT'S IT! Many
other things he said so far are pretty much nonsense.

Wearing two masks is a joke.

He continued to move goal post of herd immunity threshold based on people's acceptance of vaccines (no science in it at all).

He also wants vaccinated people to continue social distancing because of the variants, despite NO EVIDENCE shows there exist a variant that would make
the vaccine less than 50% effective (50% is the threshold to call a vaccine "efficacious").

Fauci is a politician deceived as a scientist. Fauci must be hanged to
cleanse the name of science.

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: If you say "Fauci should be hanged" for what he did last Feb and March
: regarding covid, I agree with you on that he was wrong during that time
: frame, but I don't agree with you on that he deserves to be hanged because
: then Trump deserves more than Fauci for what he did from last April to
today
: . Fauci is only a medical advisor, he is not a decision maker. Trump is : the decision maker. Fauci was wrong for two months, but after these two
: months Trump was still wrong for another nine or ten months while he was
: still in power and American people were paying the price for his decisions.
: the

FortyNiner

I was not deflecting anything. I said since a million years ago that Fauci was wrong last Feb and March, but whether or not he deserves be hanged is
not my interest, so I am not arguing for or against it. My opinion is, if
he deserves being hanged, Trump deserves more. Double masking definitely
provides more protection, though I don't know if it is necessary.

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: You are deflecting the logic.
: I don't care if Trump should be hanged. Maybe he deserves that. But that's
: not the topic. Besides, Trump already lost his job.
: Fauci did not pay for his missteps yet. At least he should apologize,
which
: he didn't.
: You said Fauci is not a decision maker, but WORDS MATTER!
: Fauci's only right move is to ask people to wear masks. THAT'S IT! Many
: other things he said so far are pretty much nonsense.
: Wearing two masks is a joke.
: He continued to move goal post of herd immunity threshold based on people's
: ...................

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rdfirdfi

Your previous post said you don't agree with me "Fauci should be hanged"

Now you are not arguing for or against it.

Thank you.

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: I was not deflecting anything. I said since a million years ago that
Fauci
: was wrong last Feb and March, but whether or not he deserves be hanged is : not my interest, so I am not arguing for or against it. My opinion is, if
: he deserves being hanged, Trump deserves more. Double masking definitely : provides more protection, though I don't know if it is necessary.
: which
: s

FortyNiner

My fault to make myself misunderstood. I meant I don't agree with you on
the severity of the consequence or punishment. I agree that he was wrong
last Feb and March, and I have been consistent with that, but I don't agree that he deserves to be hanged. Or at least I am not very interested in
arguing about the "punishment".

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: Your previous post said you don't agree with me "Fauci should be hanged"
: Now you are not arguing for or against it.
: Thank you.
: Fauci

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rdfirdfi

Fauci should be hanged.
Everyone that WOULD die from covid MUST die.

Those are my signature claims. We will keep on debating on those. Of course you can disagree with me. But I will keep showing you arguments and evidence to support my points.

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: My fault to make myself misunderstood. I meant I don't agree with you on : the severity of the consequence or punishment. I agree that he was wrong : last Feb and March, and I have been consistent with that, but I don't
agree
: that he deserves to be hanged. Or at least I am not very interested in
: arguing about the "punishment".

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iconhacker

Hang 你傻逼。

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: So you believe in Fauci. Please wear two masks, and lock yourself down
until
: EVERYONE is vaccinated.
: Fauci should be hanged.

i
iconhacker

rdfi must die then!

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: Fauci should be hanged.
: Everyone that WOULD die from covid MUST die.
: Those are my signature claims. We will keep on debating on those. Of
course
: you can disagree with me. But I will keep showing you arguments and
evidence
: to support my points.
: agree

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rdfirdfi

Hang ni ma bi! Shabi
【 在 iconhacker (iconhacker) 的大作中提到: 】
: rdfi must die then!
: course
: evidence

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zeawo4


lol
can you believe his salary?

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: So you believe in Fauci. Please wear two masks, and lock yourself down
until
: EVERYONE is vaccinated.
: Fauci should be hanged.

r
rdfirdfi

Fauci is wasting $400k+ US taxpayers' dollar every year. What's your point?

【 在 zeawo4 () 的大作中提到: 】
: lol
: can you believe his salary?
: until

iminosugar

you are an independent critical thinker a-hole.

【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: I am an independent critical thinker, but that doe not mean I have to
: disagree with Fauci now. As of now, I agree with him on mask. Actually, : even last Feb and March, I tried to convinced people around me, as well as
: here on MITBBS, that mask are effective against covid, though I did not
know
: numerically the effectiveness. So at that time, I did not agree with
Fauci
: and CDC. At that time, I also said I wouldn't be surprised if one day
CDC
: changed its recommendation on mask. Almost all posts at that time were
: deleted by MITBBS, I can find only one of mine that kind of backs me up.
: 发信人: FortyNiner (Niner), 信区: Faculty
: 标 题: Re: 指南只说不需要带,没说带了有害 (转载)
: ...................

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zeawo4

I'm backing you up. sb

【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: Fauci is wasting $400k+ US taxpayers' dollar every year. What's your point?

FortyNiner

You are the axxhole, independent or not, I don't give a hook.

【 在 iminosugar (伪糖) 的大作中提到: 】
: you are an independent critical thinker a-hole.
: know
: Fauci
: CDC