VICTOR JOECKS: Clark County election officials accepted my signature — on 8 ballot envelopes A mail-in ballot for the primary election. (Hali Bernstein Saylor/Boulder City Review)A mail-in ballot for the primary election. (Hali Bernstein Saylor/Boulder City Review)
By Victor Joecks Las Vegas Review-Journal November 12, 2020 - 9:00 pm
Don't miss the big stories. Like us on Facebook. Clark County election officials accepted my signature on eight ballot return envelopes during the general election. It’s more evidence that signature verification is a flawed security measure.
For months, election officials have told Nevadans not to worry about ballots piling up in apartment trash cans or sent to wrong addresses.
“Discarded mail ballots cannot just be picked up and voted by anyone,” a fact sheet from the secretary of state’s office says. “All mail ballots must be signed on the ballot return envelope. This signature is used to authenticate the voter and confirm that it was actually the voter and not another person who returned the mail ballot.”
Related: Nevada attorney general denounces elections lawsuits
I wanted to test that claim by simulating what might happen if someone returned ballots that didn’t belong to him or her. Plenty of people had this opportunity. Billy Geurin, a 10-year Las Vegas resident, found five loose ballots in his apartment mailroom. A reader emailed me a picture of a pile of mail on the side of the road, which included loose ballots. There are numerous pictures of similar examples on social media.
Nine people participated in this test. I wrote their names in cursive using my normal handwriting. They then copied my version of their name onto their ballot envelope. This two-step process was necessary to ensure no laws were broken.
On Monday, I asked Clark County Registrar Joe Gloria about this scenario. If ballots signed by someone else “came through, we would still have the signature match to rely on for identity,” he said. Asked if he was confident the safeguard would identify those ballots, he said, “I’m confident that the process has been working throughout this process.”
He was wrong. Eight of the nine ballots went through. In other words, signature verification had an 89 percent failure rate in catching mismatched signatures.
This could explain how a ballot “signed” by Rosemarie Hartle, who died in 2017, made it through signature verification, as reported by 8 News Now. It could explain how Jill Stokke, a longtime Las Vegas resident, was told the signature on her ballot matched, even though she said she never received it.
County officials aren’t working proactively to determine whether unscrupulous actors abused this vulnerability in a widespread fashion. Gloria’s office doesn’t “have an investigatory team.” He said his office catches fraudulent votes “when they’re reported to us.” So if a criminal doesn’t admit he committed voter fraud, Clark County is unlikely to find out about it. Willful ignorance isn’t an election security strategy.
Leave aside the presidential race. Fewer than 200 votes separate the leading candidates in Senate District 5. In 2018, state Sen. Keith Pickard won his race by 24 votes. Even small amounts of fraud can swing results.
It’s unclear how much voter fraud took place in Nevada. But it’s clear signature verification isn’t the fail-safe security check elections officials made it out to be.
But absentee ballots have been being used for at least tens of years. What can you do with them? Military oversea, are they all supposed to come back and vote in person? How about those in the middle of the sea in submarines? Do we need something bigger than China's 春运 to move the people for them to vote on election days? Don't forget, there is still midterm and primary.
然后自己签名寄回去。有人实验了https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/opinion-columns/victor-joecks/victor-
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VICTOR JOECKS: Clark County election officials accepted my signature — on 8 ballot envelopes
A mail-in ballot for the primary election. (Hali Bernstein Saylor/Boulder
City Review)A mail-in ballot for the primary election. (Hali Bernstein
Saylor/Boulder City Review)
By Victor Joecks Las Vegas Review-Journal
November 12, 2020 - 9:00 pm
Don't miss the big stories. Like us on Facebook.
Clark County election officials accepted my signature on eight ballot return envelopes during the general election. It’s more evidence that signature
verification is a flawed security measure.
For months, election officials have told Nevadans not to worry about ballots piling up in apartment trash cans or sent to wrong addresses.
“Discarded mail ballots cannot just be picked up and voted by anyone,” a
fact sheet from the secretary of state’s office says. “All mail ballots
must be signed on the ballot return envelope. This signature is used to
authenticate the voter and confirm that it was actually the voter and not
another person who returned the mail ballot.”
Related: Nevada attorney general denounces elections lawsuits
I wanted to test that claim by simulating what might happen if someone
returned ballots that didn’t belong to him or her. Plenty of people had
this opportunity. Billy Geurin, a 10-year Las Vegas resident, found five
loose ballots in his apartment mailroom. A reader emailed me a picture of a pile of mail on the side of the road, which included loose ballots. There
are numerous pictures of similar examples on social media.
Nine people participated in this test. I wrote their names in cursive using my normal handwriting. They then copied my version of their name onto their ballot envelope. This two-step process was necessary to ensure no laws were broken.
On Monday, I asked Clark County Registrar Joe Gloria about this scenario. If ballots signed by someone else “came through, we would still have the
signature match to rely on for identity,” he said. Asked if he was
confident the safeguard would identify those ballots, he said, “I’m
confident that the process has been working throughout this process.”
He was wrong. Eight of the nine ballots went through. In other words,
signature verification had an 89 percent failure rate in catching mismatched signatures.
Related: Voter fraud unproven in Nevada, despite multiple Trump campaign
claims
This could explain how a ballot “signed” by Rosemarie Hartle, who died in 2017, made it through signature verification, as reported by 8 News Now. It could explain how Jill Stokke, a longtime Las Vegas resident, was told the
signature on her ballot matched, even though she said she never received it.
County officials aren’t working proactively to determine whether
unscrupulous actors abused this vulnerability in a widespread fashion.
Gloria’s office doesn’t “have an investigatory team.” He said his office catches fraudulent votes “when they’re reported to us.” So if a criminal doesn’t admit he committed voter fraud, Clark County is unlikely to find
out about it. Willful ignorance isn’t an election security strategy.
Leave aside the presidential race. Fewer than 200 votes separate the leading candidates in Senate District 5. In 2018, state Sen. Keith Pickard won his race by 24 votes. Even small amounts of fraud can swing results.
It’s unclear how much voter fraud took place in Nevada. But it’s clear
signature verification isn’t the fail-safe security check elections
officials made it out to be.
Contact Victor Joecks at [email protected] or 702-383-4698.
and how do you pass the signature check?
LOL 川粉：那个是主党操控的！
【 在 FortyNiner(Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: and how do you pass the signature check?
and as Trumpers always claim, those votes always go to Biden. They just
knew that.
【 在 SagitarVW (神车) 的大作中提到: 】
: LOL 川粉：那个是主党操控的！
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: and how do you pass the signature check?
:
Like the wisconsin dead man voted Trump
【 在 FortyNiner(Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: and as Trumpers always claim, those votes always go to Biden. They
just
: knew that.
那我就不知道，文章人家实名写了，你自己问主党的sos，怎么通过的
【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: and how do you pass the signature check?
记者实名举报，还采访了sos of nv.你不会觉得这又是一个阴谋把
【 在 SagitarVW (神车) 的大作中提到: 】
: LOL 川粉：那个是主党操控的！
:
: and how do you pass the signature check?
:
同意。就是开玩笑一样的，不能做数。 recall newson.
就你们这些川粉的credit 假消息无疑
【 在 daemonself1(daemon) 的大作中提到: 】
: 记者实名举报，还采访了sos of nv.你不会觉得这又是一个阴谋把
lol, 那这就没什麽好说的，就您这credit，在我这连狗x都不如，实话告诉您一下
【 在 SagitarVW (神车) 的大作中提到: 】
: 就你们这些川粉的credit 假消息无疑
:
: 记者实名举报，还采访了sos of nv.你不会觉得这又是一个阴谋把
:
OK, keep them to yourself.
【 在 daemonself1 (daemon) 的大作中提到: 】
: lol, 那这就没什麽好说的，就您这credit，在我这连狗x都不如，实话告诉您一下
Lol 奥巴蹂躏你八年 你说你差点移民 我等着看你是不是腆着脸还不走继续骂街
【 在 daemonself1(daemon) 的大作中提到: 】
: lol, 那这就没什麽好说的，就您这credit，在我这连狗x都不如，实话告诉您一下
很多州都不做signature verification
GA，PA，AZ还有NV都不做
我看有报道说，MI和WI把机器的签名对比报错敏感度从default的80%左右调到了10%几
有没有都一样了
我有邀请你来回贴么。人家正经报纸新闻vs你得credit,我信谁还不明显么
【 在 FortyNiner (Niner) 的大作中提到: 】
: OK, keep them to yourself.
暂时可能走不了，没有那么多cash交退籍税阿
【 在 SagitarVW (神车) 的大作中提到: 】
: Lol 奥巴蹂躏你八年 你说你差点移民 我等着看你是不是腆着脸还不走继续骂街
:
: lol, 那这就没什麽好说的，就您这credit，在我这连狗x都不如，实话告诉您一下
:
But absentee ballots have been being used for at least tens of years. What can you do with them? Military oversea, are they all supposed to come back and vote in person? How about those in the middle of the sea in submarines? Do we need something bigger than China's 春运 to move the people for them to vote on election days? Don't forget, there is still midterm and primary.
I did not ask you to reply that post either, as well as this one. Whoever
wants to read my post can read it. If nobody reads it, I am cool with that.
【 在 daemonself1 (daemon) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我有邀请你来回贴么。人家正经报纸新闻vs你得credit,我信谁还不明显么
制度腐败就是这样烂掉的