According to both the novel and the series, the main split between the two timelines began with the successful assassination of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933 by Giuseppe Zangaras. Afterward, the United States is subsequently led by John Garner (FDR's vice president) and then by Republican John Bricker. These presidents led to the destabilization of the country and both failed to enact the proper reforms to pull the country from the Great Depression. They continue to maintain an isolationist philosophy during the war and, as a result, they are unable to support the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union's fight against the Greater Nazi Reich or defend themselves from the Japanese Empire in the Pacific.
In the following years, Nazi Germany conquered the Soviet Union and exterminated most of its Slavic peoples, and either invaded or forced the surrender of the United Kingdom. The Japanese Empire then destroyed most of the United States Navy fleet in a decisive battle at Pearl Harbor (much more destructive than in our timeline), and conquered in short order Hawaii, Australia, New Zealand and the rest of the Oceania. Hawaii was briefly retaken by the U.S. in February of 1942. By 1945, the Axis Powers were strong enough to launch a successful invasion of the U.S. from both the Pacific and Atlantic coasts.
The Nazis' then detonated the first atomic bomb (dubbed the Heisenberg Device) on Washington D.C., forcing the United States to surrender by late 1945. Despite this, the Axis Powers were forced to fight a hard and tenacious American Resistance for almost two years until September 18th, 1947, when the Nazi Reich declared that the resistance has finally been put down. This day was marked as Victory in America Day (or VA Day) which officially ended the conflict with an Axis victory.
Notable Figures
Winston Churchill
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill was a British statesman and the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom during the war. He was also an officer in the British Army, a non-academic historian, a writer, and an artist. He was assassinated in 1940.
Joseph Stalin Stalin
Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin was the leader of the Soviet Union from the mid-1920s until his death in 1949. When the Nazis won the war, Stalin was executed, his death effectively caused the collapse of the Union.
Franklin D. Roosevelt Frank Roosevelt
Franklin Delano Roosevelt never managed to become President of the United States. He was assassinated in 1933 by Giuseppe Zangara, an Italian anarchist who apparently expressed a "hate for all rulers". As a result, the USA never recovered from the Great Depression and was incapable and unwilling to help the Allies during World War II, which led to a German victory in Europe and Africa, and a Japanese victory in Asia and the Pacific.
The TV series offers little information about Roosevelt, although it does mention he was assassinated before taking office. While the TV series doesn't specify the identity of the murderer or when the assassination took place, it's generally assumed to be the same as in the novel. The characters in the TV series occasionally discuss Roosevelt's demise. They privately wonder if the world would be a different place if he had survived his murder.
Adolf Hitler
Adolf Hitler was the leader and dictator of Nazi Germany in World War II. He led the military to conquer many countries most notably France and Poland. In the Man in the High Castle, he also invades the United Kingdom, the Soviet Union, Africa, Canada, the United States and South America. He is shown to be still alive and appears in season one and two. He is subsequently assassinated however by Martin Heusmann's men.
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发信人: solarlight (MC重金属愚公), 信区: Military
标 题: 高堡奇人4是肯定了我党在亚洲抗日的主要力量
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 23 14:34:51 2019, 美东)
虽然只是说资助美国黑人共产党的的武器是来自中国,但是很显然,国民党不可能资助黑人共产党。。。
要是国民党在那个平行宇宙还没被消灭,肯定是主动投降德国或者想办法资助美国白人。所以肯定是我党在支援美国黑人的共产主义解放斗争 LOL
另外我觉得高堡奇人那个老头演员有点像乔布斯
我前几天说过了 剧里不点名承认我党确实是中流砥柱
而且日本人自己说了 焦头烂额的地方是满洲里等等 最后觉得美国这里得不偿失主动跑路 也是因为在亚洲陷入了人民战争的汪洋大海
还有暗杀大臣的枪是五四手枪 另外 黑人共产党用的武器全是苏制武器 说明中国
反抗力量不仅能自保 还可以输出革命了
这些武器当然实际上都是错误的 按书里的历史 富兰克林1933年被暗杀 之后的总统奉行孤立主义 导致苏联在被入侵的时候缺乏外援 被纳粹完全灭掉 俄国人大部分被种族灭绝 因此 当然不会有任何苏制自动步枪出现 也不会有仿造苏联产品的中国武器
不过这也说明 苏联是自由的军火库 这一概念已经深入人心 苏联并没有白白存在70年
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: 发信人: solarlight (MC重金属愚公), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 高堡奇人4是肯定了我党在亚洲抗日的主要力量
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 23 14:34:51 2019, 美东)
: 虽然只是说资助美国黑人共产党的的武器是来自中国,但是很显然,国民党不可能资助
: 黑人共产党。。。
: 要是国民党在那个平行宇宙还没被消灭,肯定是主动投降德国或者想办法资助美国白人
: 。所以肯定是我党在支援美国黑人的共产主义解放斗争 LOL
: 另外我觉得高堡奇人那个老头演员有点像乔布斯
国民党很可能搞了渝宁合流 汪主席最终实现了党指挥枪 枪指挥党的蒋总司令再度下野
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: 发信人: solarlight (MC重金属愚公), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 高堡奇人4是肯定了我党在亚洲抗日的主要力量
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 23 14:34:51 2019, 美东)
: 虽然只是说资助美国黑人共产党的的武器是来自中国,但是很显然,国民党不可能资助
: 黑人共产党。。。
: 要是国民党在那个平行宇宙还没被消灭,肯定是主动投降德国或者想办法资助美国白人
: 。所以肯定是我党在支援美国黑人的共产主义解放斗争 LOL
: 另外我觉得高堡奇人那个老头演员有点像乔布斯
History
According to both the novel and the series, the main split between the two
timelines began with the successful assassination of President Franklin D.
Roosevelt in 1933 by Giuseppe Zangaras. Afterward, the United States is
subsequently led by John Garner (FDR's vice president) and then by
Republican John Bricker. These presidents led to the destabilization of the country and both failed to enact the proper reforms to pull the country from the Great Depression. They continue to maintain an isolationist philosophy during the war and, as a result, they are unable to support the United
Kingdom and the Soviet Union's fight against the Greater Nazi Reich or
defend themselves from the Japanese Empire in the Pacific.
In the following years, Nazi Germany conquered the Soviet Union and
exterminated most of its Slavic peoples, and either invaded or forced the
surrender of the United Kingdom. The Japanese Empire then destroyed most of the United States Navy fleet in a decisive battle at Pearl Harbor (much more destructive than in our timeline), and conquered in short order Hawaii,
Australia, New Zealand and the rest of the Oceania. Hawaii was briefly
retaken by the U.S. in February of 1942. By 1945, the Axis Powers were
strong enough to launch a successful invasion of the U.S. from both the
Pacific and Atlantic coasts.
The Nazis' then detonated the first atomic bomb (dubbed the Heisenberg
Device) on Washington D.C., forcing the United States to surrender by late
1945. Despite this, the Axis Powers were forced to fight a hard and
tenacious American Resistance for almost two years until September 18th,
1947, when the Nazi Reich declared that the resistance has finally been put down. This day was marked as Victory in America Day (or VA Day) which
officially ended the conflict with an Axis victory.
Notable Figures
Winston Churchill
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill was a British statesman and the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom during the war. He was also an officer in the British Army, a non-academic historian, a writer, and an artist. He was
assassinated in 1940.
Joseph Stalin
Stalin
Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin was the leader of the Soviet Union from the mid-1920s until his death in 1949. When the Nazis won the war, Stalin was
executed, his death effectively caused the collapse of the Union.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Frank Roosevelt
Franklin Delano Roosevelt never managed to become President of the United
States. He was assassinated in 1933 by Giuseppe Zangara, an Italian
anarchist who apparently expressed a "hate for all rulers". As a result, the USA never recovered from the Great Depression and was incapable and
unwilling to help the Allies during World War II, which led to a German
victory in Europe and Africa, and a Japanese victory in Asia and the Pacific.
The TV series offers little information about Roosevelt, although it does
mention he was assassinated before taking office. While the TV series doesn't specify the identity of the murderer or when the assassination took place, it's generally assumed to be the same as in the novel. The characters in
the TV series occasionally discuss Roosevelt's demise. They privately wonder if the world would be a different place if he had survived his murder.
Adolf Hitler
Adolf Hitler was the leader and dictator of Nazi Germany in World War II. He led the military to conquer many countries most notably France and Poland. In the Man in the High Castle, he also invades the United Kingdom, the
Soviet Union, Africa, Canada, the United States and South America. He is
shown to be still alive and appears in season one and two. He is
subsequently assassinated however by Martin Heusmann's men.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/Joke/34151333_0_1.html
发信人: Huangchong (净坛使者), 信区: Joke
标 题: Re: 高堡奇阑尾了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 20 20:22:27 2019, 美东)
说明我党确实是中流砥柱
【 在 Huan2007 (胡绵涛) 的大作中提到: 】
: 第四季完全是黑日本人。
: 城户儿子就差上CCTV认罪了。
: 日本人有核武器还在亚洲节节败退。
左倾,右倾,都没完的
冒险主义行吗
【 在 solarlight (MC重金属愚公) 的大作中提到: 】
: 发信人: solarlight (MC重金属愚公), 信区: Military
: 标 题: 高堡奇人4是肯定了我党在亚洲抗日的主要力量
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 23 14:34:51 2019, 美东)
: 虽然只是说资助美国黑人共产党的的武器是来自中国,但是很显然,国民党不可能资助
: 黑人共产党。。。
: 要是国民党在那个平行宇宙还没被消灭,肯定是主动投降德国或者想办法资助美国白人
: 。所以肯定是我党在支援美国黑人的共产主义解放斗争 LOL
: 另外我觉得高堡奇人那个老头演员有点像乔布斯
前几年瞄了几眼,故事不好看啊
光顾留恋于抗日战场
修不出人形的血花黄茉莉花特馋新中国的猪肉吧