巨巨eo援引的ieepa International Emergency Economic Powers Act里面明文规定了 (b) The authority granted to the President by this section does not include the authority to regulate or prohibit, directly or indirectly-- (1) any postal, telegraphic, telephonic, or other personal communication, which does not involve a transfer of anything of value; (2) donations, by persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, of articles, such as food, clothing, and medicine, intended to be used to relieve human suffering, except to the extent that the President determines that such donations (A) would seriously impair his ability to deal with any national emergency declared under section 1701 of this title, (B) are in response to coercion against the proposed recipient or donor, or (C) would endanger Armed Forces of the United States which are engaged in hostilities or are in a situation where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances; or (3) the importation from any country, or the exportation to any country, whether commercial or otherwise, regardless of format or medium of transmission, of any information or informational materials, including but not limited to, publications, films, posters, phonograph records, photographs, microfilms, microfiche, tapes, compact disks, CD ROMs, artworks, and news wire feeds. The exports exempted from regulation or prohibition by this paragraph do not include those which are otherwise controlled for export under section 2404 of the Appendix to this title, or under section 2405 of the Appendix to this title to the extent that such controls promote the nonproliferation or antiterrorism policies of the United States, or with respect to which acts are prohibited by chapter 37 of Title 18; (4) any transactions ordinarily incident to travel to or from any country, including importation of accompanied baggage for personal use, maintenance within any country including payment of living expenses and acquisition of goods or services for personal use, and
看一个事情，你不去看主干，盯着细枝末节。反正我都应你的赌了，还要我怎的？ 【 在 daemonself (新晋川粉，前mit行为艺术专业博士后导师) 的大作中提到: 】 : 主要写给小六看的，目前感觉华左里只有小六还能用脑子思考 : 巨巨eo援引的ieepa : International Emergency Economic Powers Act里面明文规定了 : (b) The authority granted to the President by this section does not : include the authority to regulate or prohibit, directly or : indirectly-- : (1) any postal, telegraphic, telephonic, or other personal : communication, which does not involve a transfer of anything of value; : (2) donations, by persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United : States, of articles, such as food, clothing, and medicine, intended to : be used to relieve human suffering, except to the extent that the : President determines that such donations (A) would seriously impair : his ability to deal with any national emergency declared under section : 1701 of this title, (B) are in response to coercion against the : proposed recipient or donor, or (C) would endanger Armed Forces of the : United States which are engaged in hostilities or are in a situation : where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the : circumstances; or : (3) the importation from any country, or the exportation to any : country, whether commercial or otherwise, regardless of format or : medium of transmission, of any information or informational materials, : including but not limited to, publications, films, posters, phonograph : records, photographs, microfilms, microfiche, tapes, compact disks, CD : ROMs, artworks, and news wire feeds. The exports exempted from : regulation or prohibition by this paragraph do not include those which : are otherwise controlled for export under section 2404 of the Appendix : to this title, or under section 2405 of the Appendix to this title to : the extent that such controls promote the nonproliferation or : antiterrorism policies of the United States, or with respect to which : acts are prohibited by chapter 37 of Title 18; : (4) any transactions ordinarily incident to travel to or from any : country, including importation of accompanied baggage for personal : use, maintenance within any country including payment of living : expenses and acquisition of goods or services for personal use, and
注意看EO原文。能够被制裁的主体是any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States
也就是说，使用app的人，不管你是美华还是别的什么人，是被制裁的主体。整个EO没 有提到制裁腾讯。
相应的，使用tiktok的人是被制裁的主体。
具体罚则现在还没有。“transaction”也没有解释。
Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with Tencent Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī), Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order.
腾讯在美国有很多投资，连league of legend都被腾讯买了。看看美国会怎么对待这些吧。其实这些才是大头。禁微信和tiktok只是开始。 【 在 daemonself (新晋川粉，前mit行为艺术专业博士后导师) 的大作中提到: 】 : 主要写给小六看的，目前感觉华左里只有小六还能用脑子思考 : 巨巨eo援引的ieepa : International Emergency Economic Powers Act里面明文规定了 : (b) The authority granted to the President by this section does not : include the authority to regulate or prohibit, directly or : indirectly-- : (1) any postal, telegraphic, telephonic, or other personal : communication, which does not involve a transfer of anything of value; : (2) donations, by persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United : States, of articles, such as food, clothing, and medicine, intended to : be used to relieve human suffering, except to the extent that the : President determines that such donations (A) would seriously impair : his ability to deal with any national emergency declared under section : 1701 of this title, (B) are in response to coercion against the : proposed recipient or donor, or (C) would endanger Armed Forces of the : United States which are engaged in hostilities or are in a situation : where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the : circumstances; or : (3) the importation from any country, or the exportation to any : country, whether commercial or otherwise, regardless of format or : medium of transmission, of any information or informational materials, : including but not limited to, publications, films, posters, phonograph : records, photographs, microfilms, microfiche, tapes, compact disks, CD : ROMs, artworks, and news wire feeds. The exports exempted from : regulation or prohibition by this paragraph do not include those which : are otherwise controlled for export under section 2404 of the Appendix : to this title, or under section 2405 of the Appendix to this title to : the extent that such controls promote the nonproliferation or : antiterrorism policies of the United States, or with respect to which : acts are prohibited by chapter 37 of Title 18; : (4) any transactions ordinarily incident to travel to or from any : country, including importation of accompanied baggage for personal : use, maintenance within any country including payment of living : expenses and acquisition of goods or services for personal use, and
【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】 : 注意看EO原文。能够被制裁的主体是any person, or with respect to any property, : subject to the jurisdiction of the United States : 也就是说，使用app的人，不管你是美华还是别的什么人，是被制裁的主体。整个EO没 : 有提到制裁腾讯。 : 相应的，使用tiktok的人是被制裁的主体。 : 具体罚则现在还没有。“transaction”也没有解释。 : Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days : after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: : any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to : any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with : ...................
【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】 : 注意看EO原文。能够被制裁的主体是any person, or with respect to any property, : subject to the jurisdiction of the United States : 也就是说，使用app的人，不管你是美华还是别的什么人，是被制裁的主体。整个EO没 : 有提到制裁腾讯。 : 相应的，使用tiktok的人是被制裁的主体。 : 具体罚则现在还没有。“transaction”也没有解释。 : Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days : after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: : any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to : any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with : ...................
主要写给小六看的，目前感觉华左里只有小六还能用脑子思考
巨巨eo援引的ieepa
International Emergency Economic Powers Act里面明文规定了
(b) The authority granted to the President by this section does not
include the authority to regulate or prohibit, directly or
indirectly--
(1) any postal, telegraphic, telephonic, or other personal
communication, which does not involve a transfer of anything of value;
(2) donations, by persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United
States, of articles, such as food, clothing, and medicine, intended to
be used to relieve human suffering, except to the extent that the
President determines that such donations (A) would seriously impair
his ability to deal with any national emergency declared under section
1701 of this title, (B) are in response to coercion against the
proposed recipient or donor, or (C) would endanger Armed Forces of the
United States which are engaged in hostilities or are in a situation
where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the
circumstances; or
(3) the importation from any country, or the exportation to any
country, whether commercial or otherwise, regardless of format or
medium of transmission, of any information or informational materials,
including but not limited to, publications, films, posters, phonograph
records, photographs, microfilms, microfiche, tapes, compact disks, CD
ROMs, artworks, and news wire feeds. The exports exempted from
regulation or prohibition by this paragraph do not include those which
are otherwise controlled for export under section 2404 of the Appendix
to this title, or under section 2405 of the Appendix to this title to
the extent that such controls promote the nonproliferation or
antiterrorism policies of the United States, or with respect to which
acts are prohibited by chapter 37 of Title 18;
(4) any transactions ordinarily incident to travel to or from any
country, including importation of accompanied baggage for personal
use, maintenance within any country including payment of living
expenses and acquisition of goods or services for personal use, and
干嘛啊？还要找 Little6？你邀赌，人家已经应赌了，你却假装没看到，先把赌约的事解决了再说吧。
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哈哈哈，还在装模作样。如果你真有执照，你应该知道一个基本原则：利益回避。你不能当自己的 Escrow！连这个都不知道，还要装什么？就喜欢把你这种人揪出来出丑。
你先开口要与人对赌，little6 大方答应，甚至大方答应我当 escrow，结果你却拖拖
拉拉，推三阻四，真是难看啊！如果世界上的男人都像你这样，我们干 escrow 的都要喝西北风了，lol！
【 在 daemonself(新晋川粉，前mit行为艺术专业博士后导师) 的大作中提到: 】
: 您还真客气，不好意思告诉您，我老自己就是licensed escrow officer, 我们
还没着
: 急到请电信诈骗分子帮忙存钱
ban不了，但是有可能起诉用户。
以后你的手机里如果装着微信，就可能成为麦卡锡主义的牺牲品。
当 transaction 被扩大解释成发红包、下载安装时，这就有可能发生。
App McCarthyism，呵呵，好可怕。
【 在 rdfirdfi(rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: ban不了，但是有可能起诉用户。
: 以后你的手机里如果装着微信，就可能成为麦卡锡主义的牺牲品。
trump主要是制裁腾讯吧。
看一个事情，你不去看主干，盯着细枝末节。反正我都应你的赌了，还要我怎的？
【 在 daemonself (新晋川粉，前mit行为艺术专业博士后导师) 的大作中提到: 】
: 主要写给小六看的，目前感觉华左里只有小六还能用脑子思考
: 巨巨eo援引的ieepa
: International Emergency Economic Powers Act里面明文规定了
: (b) The authority granted to the President by this section does not
: include the authority to regulate or prohibit, directly or
: indirectly--
: (1) any postal, telegraphic, telephonic, or other personal
: communication, which does not involve a transfer of anything of value;
: (2) donations, by persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United
: States, of articles, such as food, clothing, and medicine, intended to
: be used to relieve human suffering, except to the extent that the
: President determines that such donations (A) would seriously impair
: his ability to deal with any national emergency declared under section
: 1701 of this title, (B) are in response to coercion against the
: proposed recipient or donor, or (C) would endanger Armed Forces of the
: United States which are engaged in hostilities or are in a situation
: where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the
: circumstances; or
: (3) the importation from any country, or the exportation to any
: country, whether commercial or otherwise, regardless of format or
: medium of transmission, of any information or informational materials,
: including but not limited to, publications, films, posters, phonograph
: records, photographs, microfilms, microfiche, tapes, compact disks, CD
: ROMs, artworks, and news wire feeds. The exports exempted from
: regulation or prohibition by this paragraph do not include those which
: are otherwise controlled for export under section 2404 of the Appendix
: to this title, or under section 2405 of the Appendix to this title to
: the extent that such controls promote the nonproliferation or
: antiterrorism policies of the United States, or with respect to which
: acts are prohibited by chapter 37 of Title 18;
: (4) any transactions ordinarily incident to travel to or from any
: country, including importation of accompanied baggage for personal
: use, maintenance within any country including payment of living
: expenses and acquisition of goods or services for personal use, and
注意看EO原文。能够被制裁的主体是any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States
也就是说，使用app的人，不管你是美华还是别的什么人，是被制裁的主体。整个EO没
有提到制裁腾讯。
相应的，使用tiktok的人是被制裁的主体。
具体罚则现在还没有。“transaction”也没有解释。
Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with
Tencent Holdings Ltd. (a.k.a. Téngxùn Kònggǔ Yǒuxiàn Gōngsī),
Shenzhen, China, or any subsidiary of that entity, as identified by the
Secretary of Commerce (Secretary) under section 1(c) of this order.
【 在 Shadowolf (鬼涧愁) 的大作中提到: 】
: trump主要是制裁腾讯吧。
麦卡锡怎么都能搞你，你卸了微信一样可以找别的借口。
【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: ban不了，但是有可能起诉用户。
: 以后你的手机里如果装着微信，就可能成为麦卡锡主义的牺牲品。
腾讯在美国有很多投资，连league of legend都被腾讯买了。看看美国会怎么对待这些吧。其实这些才是大头。禁微信和tiktok只是开始。
【 在 daemonself (新晋川粉，前mit行为艺术专业博士后导师) 的大作中提到: 】
: 主要写给小六看的，目前感觉华左里只有小六还能用脑子思考
: 巨巨eo援引的ieepa
: International Emergency Economic Powers Act里面明文规定了
: (b) The authority granted to the President by this section does not
: include the authority to regulate or prohibit, directly or
: indirectly--
: (1) any postal, telegraphic, telephonic, or other personal
: communication, which does not involve a transfer of anything of value;
: (2) donations, by persons subject to the jurisdiction of the United
: States, of articles, such as food, clothing, and medicine, intended to
: be used to relieve human suffering, except to the extent that the
: President determines that such donations (A) would seriously impair
: his ability to deal with any national emergency declared under section
: 1701 of this title, (B) are in response to coercion against the
: proposed recipient or donor, or (C) would endanger Armed Forces of the
: United States which are engaged in hostilities or are in a situation
: where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the
: circumstances; or
: (3) the importation from any country, or the exportation to any
: country, whether commercial or otherwise, regardless of format or
: medium of transmission, of any information or informational materials,
: including but not limited to, publications, films, posters, phonograph
: records, photographs, microfilms, microfiche, tapes, compact disks, CD
: ROMs, artworks, and news wire feeds. The exports exempted from
: regulation or prohibition by this paragraph do not include those which
: are otherwise controlled for export under section 2404 of the Appendix
: to this title, or under section 2405 of the Appendix to this title to
: the extent that such controls promote the nonproliferation or
: antiterrorism policies of the United States, or with respect to which
: acts are prohibited by chapter 37 of Title 18;
: (4) any transactions ordinarily incident to travel to or from any
: country, including importation of accompanied baggage for personal
: use, maintenance within any country including payment of living
: expenses and acquisition of goods or services for personal use, and
借口少一个是一个。
如果民主党没有人跳出来反对这个EO，我会在手机上卸载所有中国公司的app
【 在 comeandgo (春困秋乏夏打盹) 的大作中提到: 】
: 麦卡锡怎么都能搞你，你卸了微信一样可以找别的借口。
美国制裁他国公司一般不就是这么干的？在我司法管辖范围内，禁止任何人跟它有商业往来。
【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: 注意看EO原文。能够被制裁的主体是any person, or with respect to any
property,
: subject to the jurisdiction of the United States
: 也就是说，使用app的人，不管你是美华还是别的什么人，是被制裁的主体。整个EO没
: 有提到制裁腾讯。
: 相应的，使用tiktok的人是被制裁的主体。
: 具体罚则现在还没有。“transaction”也没有解释。
: Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45
days
: after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable
law:
: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to
: any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with
: ...................
笑死了，国内是不是少先队员和共青团员这些共产党外围组织？在美国这么多年tax
return确保一点问题没有？ 上网的浏览记录一点问题都没有？
这些都比一个微信账号要大。
【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: 借口少一个是一个。
: 如果民主党没有人跳出来反对这个EO，我会在手机上卸载所有中国公司的app
所以呢，你要不要卸载微信？
我会在45天之内卸载。
【 在 Shadowolf (鬼涧愁) 的大作中提到: 】
: 美国制裁他国公司一般不就是这么干的？在我司法管辖范围内，禁止任何人跟它有商业
: 往来。
: property,
: days
: law:
: to
卸啊，这玩意我老早基本都不用了。看见有人专门给我发信才上去看一眼。
【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: 所以呢，你要不要卸载微信？
: 我会在45天之内卸载。
IEEPA的原文，能管什么不能管什么，不是已经贴了么。
communication没value,不算。
【 在 rdfirdfi (rdfi) 的大作中提到: 】
: 注意看EO原文。能够被制裁的主体是any person, or with respect to any
property,
: subject to the jurisdiction of the United States
: 也就是说，使用app的人，不管你是美华还是别的什么人，是被制裁的主体。整个EO没
: 有提到制裁腾讯。
: 相应的，使用tiktok的人是被制裁的主体。
: 具体罚则现在还没有。“transaction”也没有解释。
: Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45
days
: after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable
law:
: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to
: any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, with
: ...................