RIGHT NOW Trump administration officials are telling members of the coronavirus task force that the White House plans to wind down the operation and it’s not clear whether any other group might replace it.
Coronavirus Live Updates: As Threat of Virus Persists, Trump Administration Signals It Will Wind Down Task Force Cases are growing by 2 to 4 percent daily, and more than 1,000 people have died each day for over a month. At least 15 children in New York were hospitalized with an illness scientists worry might be linked to Covid-19. http://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-updates.html
Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing the medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring. A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture.
“If you include New York, it looks like a plateau moving down,’’ said Andrew Noymer, an associate professor of public health at the University of California, Irvine. “If you exclude New York, it’s a plateau slowly moving up.” It is not just the major cities. Smaller towns and rural counties in the Midwest and South have suddenly been hit hard, underscoring the capriciousness of the pandemic.
Dakota County, Neb., which has the third-most cases per capita in the country, had no known cases as recently as April 11. Now the county is a hot zone for the virus. “It’s the balance of something that’s a very difficult choice, like how many deaths and how much suffering are you willing to accept to get back to what you want to be, some form of normality, sooner rather than later?” Dr. Anthony Fauci, the administration’s top infectious disease official, said Monday on CNN.
【 在 TravisBickle (Travis) 的大作中提到: 】 : RIGHT NOW Trump administration officials are telling members of the : coronavirus task force that the White House plans to wind down the operation : and it’s not clear whether any other group might replace it. : Coronavirus Live Updates: As Threat of Virus Persists, Trump Administration : Signals It Will Wind Down Task Force : Cases are growing by 2 to 4 percent daily, and more than 1,000 people have : died each day for over a month. At least 15 children in New York were : hospitalized with an illness scientists worry might be linked to Covid-19.: http://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-updates.html
【 在 Ignius 的大作中提到: 】 : :美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。 : :Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing the medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an :ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring. :A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture. : :“If you include New York, it looks like a plateau moving down,’’ said :Andrew Noymer, an associate professor of public health at the University of California, Irvine. “If you exclude New York, it’s a plateau slowly moving up.” :It is not just the major cities. Smaller towns and rural counties in the :Midwest and South have suddenly been hit hard, underscoring the :capriciousness of the pandemic.
只看死亡率的是老王，他的智商确实理解不了。我一向看住院率的。 【 在 insect9 (insect9) 的大作中提到: 】 : 在疫苗不可能出现的情况下，只要死亡率不飙升，确诊数爆发其实是好事。以你的智商 : ，确实很难理解这点。 : : : :美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。 : : : :Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is : rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing : the medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an : :ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring. : :A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture. : ...................
【 在 Ignius 的大作中提到: 】 : :只看死亡率的是老王，他的智商确实理解不了。我一向看住院率的。 :【 在 insect9 (insect9) 的大作中提到: 】 :: 在疫苗不可能出现的情况下，只要死亡率不飙升，确诊数爆发其实是好事。以你的 智商 :: ，确实很难理解这点。 :: : :: :美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。 :: : :: :Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is :: rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing : the medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an :: :ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring. :: :A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture.
【 在 insect9 (insect9) 的大作中提到: 】 : 在疫苗不可能出现的情况下，只要死亡率不飙升，确诊数爆发其实是好事。以你的智商 : ，确实很难理解这点。 : : : :美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。 : : : :Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is : rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing : the medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an : :ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring. : :A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture. : ...................
你这智商连当左派都不够，就像我们山东最近也’爆‘了，为啥？测试得capacity远大于来测得，10w vs 2-3万把，阳性率已经从16%降到3-5%。 当然按你得逻辑，山东也限制了测试，因为预约还是要预约得，毕竟不是逛窑子 【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】 : 美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。 : Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is : rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing the : medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an : ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring. : A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture. : “If you include New York, it looks like a plateau moving down,’’ said : Andrew Noymer, an associate professor of public health at the University of : California, Irvine. “If you exclude New York, it’s a plateau slowly moving : up.” : ...................
【 在 daemonself 的大作中提到: 】 : :你这智商连当左派都不够，就像我们山东最近也’爆‘了，为啥？测试得capacity远 大于来测得，10w vs 2-3万把，阳性率已经从16%降到3-5%。 :当然按你得逻辑，山东也限制了测试，因为预约还是要预约得，毕竟不是逛窑子 :【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】 :: 美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。 :: Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It :is :: rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing :the :: medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an :: ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring. :: A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture.
床铺觉得行就行 Asked about whether winding down the task force is a good idea in a pandemic, Trump says, "I think we're looking at phase 2, and we're looking at other phases. The country's starting to open up. The task force has done a phenomenal job."
RIGHT NOW Trump administration officials are telling members of the
coronavirus task force that the White House plans to wind down the operation and it’s not clear whether any other group might replace it.
Coronavirus Live Updates: As Threat of Virus Persists, Trump Administration Signals It Will Wind Down Task Force
Cases are growing by 2 to 4 percent daily, and more than 1,000 people have
died each day for over a month. At least 15 children in New York were
hospitalized with an illness scientists worry might be linked to Covid-19.
http://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-updates.html
美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。
Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing the medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an
ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring.
A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture.
“If you include New York, it looks like a plateau moving down,’’ said
Andrew Noymer, an associate professor of public health at the University of California, Irvine. “If you exclude New York, it’s a plateau slowly moving up.”
It is not just the major cities. Smaller towns and rural counties in the
Midwest and South have suddenly been hit hard, underscoring the
capriciousness of the pandemic.
Dakota County, Neb., which has the third-most cases per capita in the
country, had no known cases as recently as April 11. Now the county is a hot zone for the virus.
“It’s the balance of something that’s a very difficult choice, like how
many deaths and how much suffering are you willing to accept to get back to what you want to be, some form of normality, sooner rather than later?” Dr. Anthony Fauci, the administration’s top infectious disease official, said Monday on CNN.
【 在 TravisBickle (Travis) 的大作中提到: 】
: RIGHT NOW Trump administration officials are telling members of the
: coronavirus task force that the White House plans to wind down the
operation
: and it’s not clear whether any other group might replace it.
: Coronavirus Live Updates: As Threat of Virus Persists, Trump
Administration
: Signals It Will Wind Down Task Force
: Cases are growing by 2 to 4 percent daily, and more than 1,000 people have
: died each day for over a month. At least 15 children in New York were
: hospitalized with an illness scientists worry might be linked to Covid-19.: http://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-updates.html
日，内部权力斗争把我鳖克星Navarro的职位给撸了而已，丫是负责Ventilator的，现
在看来也用不了那么多Ventilator了，正好借机把他搞下去，顺便FakeNew再报个假新
闻。
在疫苗不可能出现的情况下，只要死亡率不飙升，确诊数爆发其实是好事。以你的智商，确实很难理解这点。
【 在 Ignius 的大作中提到: 】
:
:美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。
:
:Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing
the medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an
:ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring.
:A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture.
:
:“If you include New York, it looks like a plateau moving down,’’ said
:Andrew Noymer, an associate professor of public health at the University of California, Irvine. “If you exclude New York, it’s a plateau slowly
moving up.”
:It is not just the major cities. Smaller towns and rural counties in the
:Midwest and South have suddenly been hit hard, underscoring the
:capriciousness of the pandemic.
只看死亡率的是老王，他的智商确实理解不了。我一向看住院率的。
【 在 insect9 (insect9) 的大作中提到: 】
: 在疫苗不可能出现的情况下，只要死亡率不飙升，确诊数爆发其实是好事。以你的智商
: ，确实很难理解这点。
: :
: :美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。
: :
: :Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is
: rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing : the medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an
: :ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring.
: :A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture.
: ...................
CDC可以看住院率，不过你没有各个地区现有医疗资源的汇总数据，看住院率卵用没有
。死亡率虽然有滞后性，但至少比卵用没有的住院率靠谱。
【 在 Ignius 的大作中提到: 】
:
:只看死亡率的是老王，他的智商确实理解不了。我一向看住院率的。
:【 在 insect9 (insect9) 的大作中提到: 】
:: 在疫苗不可能出现的情况下，只要死亡率不飙升，确诊数爆发其实是好事。以你的
智商
:: ，确实很难理解这点。
:: :
:: :美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。
:: :
:: :Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is
:: rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing : the medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an
:: :ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring.
:: :A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture.
【 在 insect9 (insect9) 的大作中提到: 】
: CDC可以看住院率，不过你没有各个地区现有医疗资源的汇总数据，看住院率卵用没有
: 。死亡率虽然有滞后性，但至少比卵用没有的住院率靠谱。
死亡率和住院率同样重要，住院一多死亡就上去了。马里兰州phase1就用住院和死亡数目当标准。
老川这次要赌个大的，决心已定，是不会回头的。
美国总统有好有坏，但是从来没有这么差的。
对的， 过量的医疗资源是一个极大的浪费。 现在的方向应该是指定一定数量的医院专门接诊新冠病人， 其他医院在严格杜绝传染的情况下恢复传统医疗功能
【 在 insect9 (insect9) 的大作中提到: 】
: 在疫苗不可能出现的情况下，只要死亡率不飙升，确诊数爆发其实是好事。以你的智商
: ，确实很难理解这点。
: :
: :美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。
: :
: :Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It is
: rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing : the medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an
: :ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring.
: :A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture.
: ...................
死亡率有滞后性没错。
你要是有各地区的医疗资源的汇总数据，看住院率当然是更具时效性的指标，可惜你没有医疗资源数据，所以住院率你看了也白看。。。。。。
【 在 TravisBickle 的大作中提到: 】
:
:
:【 在 insect9 (insect9) 的大作中提到: 】
:: CDC可以看住院率，不过你没有各个地区现有医疗资源的汇总数据，看住院率卵用没有
:: 。死亡率虽然有滞后性，但至少比卵用没有的住院率靠谱。
:
:
:死亡率和住院率同样重要，住院一多死亡就上去了。马里兰州phase1就用住院和死亡
数目当标准。
:
他决定下一步经济为核心，踢开医生搞生产。
【 在 wang9(老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 老川这次要赌个大的，决心已定，是不会回头的。
: 美国总统有好有坏，但是从来没有这么差的。
我们屁民看看每天感染人数和住院人数有没有激增就行了，死亡率滞后很多，对及时调整策略有个卵用。当然你的智商理解这个确实很难，不强求。
当你不知道各地区的医疗资源容量时，你说的这两个指标毫无意义。。。。。
【 在 Ignius 的大作中提到: 】
:
:我们屁民看看每天感染人数和住院人数有没有激增就行了，死亡率滞后很多，对及时
调整策略有个卵用。当然你的智商理解这个确实很难，不强求。
:
这些资源信息我不需要知道，各地的政府和health 机构知道就行。我们屁民看到daily新增的感染人数和住院人数就够了，做个曲线看下趋势很简单吧。
确实很简单，可以用来自娱自乐，可能有助于减缓老年痴呆的症状。
【 在 Ignius 的大作中提到: 】
:
:这些资源信息我不需要知道，各地的政府和health 机构知道就行。我们屁民看到
daily新增的感染人数和住院人数就够了，做个曲线看下趋势很简单吧。
:
台湾到现在连续 23 天无本土确诊，疫情指挥中心还在每天召开记者会；美国现在遍地开花，却准备下课了？
我们屁民要知道各地的医疗资源信息有个屁用？你是负责人嘛？医疗资源是否饱和，当地的医疗机构和政府部门知道就行了，因为他们可以根据这个来调整策略。屁民不需要知道这些。当然了你的智商不理解这个我也不奇怪。
你这智商连当左派都不够，就像我们山东最近也’爆‘了，为啥？测试得capacity远大于来测得，10w vs 2-3万把，阳性率已经从16%降到3-5%。
当然按你得逻辑，山东也限制了测试，因为预约还是要预约得，毕竟不是逛窑子
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: 美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。
: Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It
is
: rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing
the
: medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an
: ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring.
: A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture.
: “If you include New York, it looks like a plateau moving down,’’ said
: Andrew Noymer, an associate professor of public health at the University
of
: California, Irvine. “If you exclude New York, it’s a plateau slowly
moving
: up.”
: ...................
当左派还是够的，在中国会唱共产党好就行，在美国会唱民主党好就行。
【 在 daemonself 的大作中提到: 】
:
:你这智商连当左派都不够，就像我们山东最近也’爆‘了，为啥？测试得capacity远
大于来测得，10w vs 2-3万把，阳性率已经从16%降到3-5%。
:当然按你得逻辑，山东也限制了测试，因为预约还是要预约得，毕竟不是逛窑子
:【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
:: 美国地广人稀的地方也开始爆发疫情了。
:: Rural towns that one month ago were unscathed are suddenly hot spots. It :is
:: rampaging through nursing homes, meatpacking plants and prisons, killing :the
:: medically vulnerable and the poor, and new outbreaks keep emerging, an
:: ominous harbinger of what a full reopening of the economy could bring.
:: A panoramic view of the country reveals a grim and distressing picture.
您这脑子看来小学1年纪以上得数学都白学了
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这些资源信息我不需要知道，各地的政府和health 机构知道就行。我们屁民看到
daily
: 新增的感染人数和住院人数就够了，做个曲线看下趋势很简单吧。
博导看清楚了再喷。我只是把新闻里面的摘要出来一下，没有做任何评论，只是陈述了一下事实。当然了你的智商连这个都不懂我不奇怪。一个连需要预约和随便去的区别都分不出来了的人，对他的智商还能有啥期望值呢？
你俩连左右都分不清，智商喜人。
【 在 evereve (笑看眾生) 的大作中提到: 】
: 台湾到现在连续 23 天无本土确诊，疫情指挥中心还在每天召开记者会；美国现在遍地
: 开花，却准备下课了？
床铺觉得行就行
Asked about whether winding down the task force is a good idea in a pandemic, Trump says, "I think we're looking at phase 2, and we're looking at other phases. The country's starting to open up. The task force has done a
phenomenal job."
老百姓难道一定要靠政府告诉强迫他们，才会怕死么
天大的笑话
厉害国出来的，思维总是“依赖政府，一切听政府的”
如果这次新冠政府屁话也不说，只管每天通告感染人数和死亡人数，我保证老百姓自己也能处理好。人的怕死 risk avoidance是天生的，根本不用政府来教育
【 在 dime (dime) 的大作中提到: 】
: 老百姓难道一定要靠政府告诉强迫他们，才会怕死么
: 天大的笑话
: 厉害国出来的，思维总是“依赖政府，一切听政府的”
: 如果这次新冠政府屁话也不说，只管每天通告感染人数和死亡人数，我保证老百姓自己
: 也能处理好。人的怕死 risk avoidance是天生的，根本不用政府来教育
啥叫不依靠政府，自己扛着？
re
是这么个道理。
集权国家是大政府小社会，政府权力非常大，老百姓自主意识差，一切都要靠政府，政府不让出门就不能出门。
民主国家是小政府大社会，政府没有那么大的权力，老百姓自主意识强，这就要靠自觉性，老百姓觉得出门危险，就不会出门，根本不需要政府废话。
【 在 dime (dime) 的大作中提到: 】
: 老百姓难道一定要靠政府告诉强迫他们，才会怕死么
: 天大的笑话
: 厉害国出来的，思维总是“依赖政府，一切听政府的”
: 如果这次新冠政府屁话也不说，只管每天通告感染人数和死亡人数，我保证老百姓自己
: 也能处理好。人的怕死 risk avoidance是天生的，根本不用政府来教育
华人被铲子调教成了马列子孙了，很听话的……
【 在 dime (dime) 的大作中提到: 】
: 标 题: Re: 床铺把抗疫工作组关了
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 5 17:59:12 2020, 美东)
:
: 老百姓难道一定要靠政府告诉强迫他们，才会怕死么
: 天大的笑话
:
: 厉害国出来的，思维总是“依赖政府，一切听政府的”
:
: 如果这次新冠政府屁话也不说，只管每天通告感染人数和死亡人数，我保证老百姓自己
: 也能处理好。人的怕死 risk avoidance是天生的，根本不用政府来教育
: --
集权国家还要封锁过滤加工新闻，这样老百姓不能有自主意识
从小教育也要以背书顺从为主，不要有自主批判创新精神
【 在 longway (longway) 的大作中提到: 】
: 是这么个道理。
: 集权国家是大政府小社会，政府权力非常大，老百姓自主意识差，一切都要靠政府，政
: 府不让出门就不能出门。
: 民主国家是小政府大社会，政府没有那么大的权力，老百姓自主意识强，这就要靠自觉
: 性，老百姓觉得出门危险，就不会出门，根本不需要政府废话。
得了吧，面对这种呼吸道传染的病毒，明明知道带口罩是为了保护别人，美国人很多人还是选择不带口罩。这就叫自主意识？暴民意识还差不多。
【 在 TopHuang (Raptor) 的大作中提到: 】
: 集权国家还要封锁过滤加工新闻，这样老百姓不能有自主意识
: 从小教育也要以背书顺从为主，不要有自主批判创新精神
有几个人带口罩是为了保护别人？不都是保护自己嘛，你有口罩戴着怕什么
有人不带口罩要么就是觉得自己环境安全，要么觉得病毒不危险感染了没事，要么就是买不到口罩
【 在 Ignius (Hyperion) 的大作中提到: 】
: 得了吧，面对这种呼吸道传染的病毒，明明知道带口罩是为了保护别人，美国人很多人
: 还是选择不带口罩。这就叫自主意识？暴民意识还差不多。
在医院医护人员带N95，穿防护服那是为了保护自己。
平常去超市，带口罩（自制都可以）是为了减少飞沫传染的几率，保护别人。因为新冠有很多无症阳性者。你不会连这个都不懂吧？
【 在 TopHuang (Raptor) 的大作中提到: 】
: 有几个人带口罩是为了保护别人？不都是保护自己嘛，你有口罩戴着怕什么
: 有人不带口罩要么就是觉得自己环境安全，要么觉得病毒不危险感染了没事，要么就是
: 买不到口罩