Andrew Yang Ad on drug prices

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xiaoxiaowen
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Published on Nov 30, 2019
Drug Prices - Andrew Yang Ad

While drug companies are making record profits, most Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Just one medical emergency away from bankruptcy. I am Andrew
Yang and I approve this message. As president, I ‘ll fight for Mental
Health Coverage and Eliminate the Loopholes that let drug companies
charge too much. They say they need high prices to fund research. The truth? Most FDA approved drugs rely on research funded by government. That means
YOU pay for it. The old politics won’t tell you that. I just did.

"The old politics won't tell you that, I just did." - Andrew Yang
Source: https://twitter.com/McCormickJohn/sta...
So, Andrew Yang made a new ad focusing on drug prices and healthcare, and
let me tell you, it's really good. Quality was originally like this. #
AndrewYangAd #YangGang #AndrewYang

Description: New AndrewYang TV ad focused on drug prices and health care
first aired at 05:12 local in Sioux City on KCAU (ABC).
https://youtu.be/VjKooruIDac


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hci

This one is very good. Hit home with the boomer's main concern.

It was suggested on twitter by someone, and the campaign listened.

【 在 xiaoxiaowen (潇潇雯) 的大作中提到: 】
: Published on Nov 30, 2019
: Drug Prices - Andrew Yang Ad
: "The old politics won't tell you that, I just did." - Andrew Yang
: Source: https://twitter.com/McCormickJohn/sta...
: So, Andrew Yang made a new ad focusing on drug prices and healthcare, and : let me tell you, it's really good. Quality was originally like this. #
: AndrewYangAd #YangGang #AndrewYang
: Description: New AndrewYang TV ad focused on drug prices and health care
: first aired at 05:12 local in Sioux City on KCAU (ABC).
: https://youtu.be/VjKooruIDac
: ...................


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xiaoxiaowen

网上对这个也是一片叫好声说是到目前为止最好的只用了三十秒钟全是事实没有一句废话也体现了杨对竞选基金用得很节省
【 在 hci (海螺子) 的大作中提到: 】
: This one is very good. Hit home with the boomer's main concern.
: It was suggested on twitter by someone, and the campaign listened.

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fishingarden

听了一耳朵,原来杨电诈对药物价格的方法是政府强制降价,理由是药品研发政府出资了。

说杨电诈其实和床铺一样崇尚自由市场鼓励竞争的经济路线的羊粉们可以停止造谣了不?
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xiaoxiaowen

Joseph Jimenez
A drug patent lasts 20 years give or take.. This gives the inventors of the drug time to capitalize on their drug and reap the rewards of their
innovations. Once their patent expires however, the drug is fair game.. This allows generic companies to step in and produce the same drug, ultimately
reducing costs for consumers and making the drug cost-competitive. The
generic drugs must get approved by the FDA in order to start distribution.
What once was a well thought-out system has now been gamed by pharma
companies to an unfair degree.

1. Pay-for-delay agreemnets: Pharmaceutical companies will pay cash sums to generic companies in agreement to delay the production and distribution of
these drugs so they can extend the time they have to monopolize the drug.

2. Citizen petitions: These petitions ask the FDA to delay action on a
generic drug application from being approved. By law, the FDA is required to prioritize these petitions.. However, the citizens filing concerns are not individuals but rather corporations. Branded drug manufacturers submitted 92% of all citizen petitions near the date of the patent expiration, further
delaying competition for their drug.

3. Authorized generics: The first generic company to market a drug gets an
exclusivity period of 6 months. The company with the expiring patent is not barred from launching its own "authorized generic." By selling a drug they'
re already making under a different name, companies can effectively extend
their monopoly an additional 6 months.

4. Restrict access to samples: Pharmaceutical companies will restrict access to samples for generic manufactures testing needs. The generic drug makers need to be able to purchase a sample of brand-name product to conduct
bioequivalence testing in order to prove they can make a bioequivalent
product following the CGMP standard.
The Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategies Program gives access to
patients who will benefit from these personalized medicine and bar access
for patients who won't benefit and could be seriously harmed. Brand drug
makers cite these requirements for the sole purpose of keeping generics from coming to the market in order to decline the sale of samples to generic
manufacturers.

5. Generic drug makers are shooting themselves in the foot. In 2015, there
were 267 recalls of generic drug products for quality issues such as
products not dissolving properly, becoming contaminated, or even being
counterfeits. A few high-profile recalls have shaken the belief that generic drugs are truly the same as their branded parents. A generic version of
Lipitor caused the FDA to launch a $20 million initiative to test generic
products to ensure they are truly therapeutically equivalent. The quality
control mistakes of certain generic drug makers in the past have cost
medicare and medicaid billions.

Pharmaceutical firms are currently using a set of tactics to make their
temporary monopolies semi-permanent. The US needs bipartisan support to
create measures to close these loopholes.
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【 在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】
: 听了一耳朵,原来杨电诈对药物价格的方法是政府强制降价,理由是药品研发政府出资
: 了。
: 说杨电诈其实和床铺一样崇尚自由市场鼓励竞争的经济路线的羊粉们可以停止造谣了不
: ?

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fishingarden

小小蚊你转来这么一坨,虽然毫无出处,俺还是看下来,和杨电诈的药品政策没啥关系嘛。

杨电诈一门的能力真让人同情。。。。
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Cereal1965

专利制度产生垄断,算个p free market。

【 在 fishingarden(Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到: 】

: 听了一耳朵,原来杨电诈对药物价格的方法是政府强制降价,理由是药品研发政府出资

: 了。

: 说杨电诈其实和床铺一样崇尚自由市场鼓励竞争的经济路线的羊粉们可以停止造谣了不

: ?

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Cereal1965

羊在这一点上是对的,国家投资大头,最后药厂收益。收的还是暴利,怎么都不像个合理的,可持续的制度。至于怎么个fight,羊也没说

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fishingarden

你知道专利有期限吧?连专利都要取消,你离共产共妻就差一步了。
【 在 Cereal1965 (Cereal) 的大作中提到: 】
: 专利制度产生垄断,算个p free market。
:
: 听了一耳朵,原来杨电诈对药物价格的方法是政府强制降价,理由是药品研发政
: 府出资
:
: 了。
:
: 说杨电诈其实和床铺一样崇尚自由市场鼓励竞争的经济路线的羊粉们可以停止造
: 谣了不
:
: ?
:

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PLA

哪个国家给你投资大头了,这是你胡说的还是羊在胡说?

每个新药平均十多亿美刀的研发都得药厂先垫进去,国家是收钱的好伐?
新药专利17年,那是从注册这个分子从研发开始算的,10亿刀10来年千辛万苦
被FDA批准上市后也就剩6-7年的时间能赚钱

你们羊最好先最点功课再出来丢人现眼

【 在 Cereal1965 (Cereal) 的大作中提到: 】
: 羊在这一点上是对的,国家投资大头,最后药厂收益。收的还是暴利,怎么都不像个合
: 理的,可持续的制度。至于怎么个fight,羊也没说

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Cereal1965

首先,我不是什么羊,你不要乱扣帽子

第二,不懂的是你,建议你去学习之后再来发言。几乎所有的药,早期发现和研究都是联邦政府资助的,因为风险大,收益低,没人愿意去做这种广撒网的事,但这是必须要投资的。企业主要做后期临床应用研究,这个投入跟联邦政府投入比根本就不是一个数量级的

【 在 PLA(想当大公司的经理) 的大作中提到: 】

: 哪个国家给你投资大头了,这是你胡说的还是羊在胡说?

: 每个新药平均十多亿美刀的研发都得药厂先垫进去,国家是收钱的好伐?

: 新药专利17年,那是从注册这个分子从研发开始算的,10亿刀10来年千辛万苦

: 被FDA批准上市后也就剩6-7年的时间能赚钱

: 你们羊最好先最点功课再出来丢人现眼

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fishingarden

牛,这谣造的。。。。。

羊粉的水平完全不能让人提起精神来反驳。。。。

【 在 Cereal1965 (Cereal) 的大作中提到: 】
: 首先,我不是什么羊,你不要乱扣帽子
: 第二,不懂的是你,建议你去学习之后再来发言。几乎所有的药,早期发现和研究都是
: 联邦政府资助的,因为风险大,收益低,没人愿意去做这种广撒网的事,但这是必须要
: 投资的。企业主要做后期临床应用研究,这个投入跟联邦政府投入比根本就不是一个数
: 量级的
:
: 哪个国家给你投资大头了,这是你胡说的还是羊在胡说?
:
: 每个新药平均十多亿美刀的研发都得药厂先垫进去,国家是收钱的好伐?
:
: 新药专利17年,那是从注册这个分子从研发开始算的,10亿刀10来年千辛万苦:
: 被FDA批准上市后也就剩6-7年的时间能赚钱
:
: 你们羊最好先最点功课再出来丢人现眼
: ...................

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goodby

不懂不要胡说。没有专利保护就不会有新药研发出来。新药研发是充分自由市场竞争的,并没有行业保护壁垒。当然现在的最主要问题是新药研发费用都由美国人买单。别的国家坐享。新药在别的国家价格比美国低很多。美国应该立法新药必须全球价格一致,专利失效后别的国家要仿制和使用也必须承担相应的研发费用份额,这样才可以把新药价格降下来。

【 在 Cereal1965 (Cereal) 的大作中提到: 】
: 首先,我不是什么羊,你不要乱扣帽子
: 第二,不懂的是你,建议你去学习之后再来发言。几乎所有的药,早期发现和研究都是
: 联邦政府资助的,因为风险大,收益低,没人愿意去做这种广撒网的事,但这是必须要
: 投资的。企业主要做后期临床应用研究,这个投入跟联邦政府投入比根本就不是一个数
: 量级的
:

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jiutouniao00

主流媒体都不待见你们羊癫疯
【 在 xiaoxiaowen (潇潇雯) 的大作中提到: 】
: Published on Nov 30, 2019
: Drug Prices - Andrew Yang Ad
: While drug companies are making record profits, most Americans live
paycheck
: to paycheck. Just one medical emergency away from bankruptcy. I am Andrew
: Yang and I approve this message. As president, I ‘ll fight for Mental
: Health Coverage and Eliminate the Loopholes that let drug companies
: charge too much. They say they need high prices to fund research. The
truth?
: Most FDA approved drugs rely on research funded by government. That means
: YOU pay for it. The old politics won’t tell you that. I just did.
: "The old politics won't tell you that, I just did." - Andrew Yang
: ...................

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jhe123

按住洋牛逼啊,相比较其它候选人泛泛而谈的要减低药价医疗费用云云,他应该是第一个公开指出实质要害的候选人了。不过我个人感觉有点太激进,对竞选是否有利还未可知。毕竟这是断人钱财,算是和制药业彻底杠上了。

这篇文章里调查了从2010到2016的所有上市新药,都是从NIH资助研究里产生的。风险
和前期投资政府出了,巨额利润药厂拿了。而且拿了后不干好事:

Those companies then spend the profits on executive bonuses and share
buybacks, and lavish mass marketing campaigns to increase sales of
amphetamines, benzos, opioids, and dick pills.
https://other98.com/taxpayers-fund-pharma-research-development/

结合按住洋早就提出的一项要严打药厂制造贩卖成瘾药品的竞选纲领,看来他是真心要向药厂宣战了。Again, 这对他的竞选是否有利还真不好说,但实在让人佩服他虽千万人吾往矣的勇气。

【 在 xiaoxiaowen (潇潇雯) 的大作中提到: 】
: Published on Nov 30, 2019
: Drug Prices - Andrew Yang Ad
: While drug companies are making record profits, most Americans live
paycheck
: to paycheck. Just one medical emergency away from bankruptcy. I am Andrew
: Yang and I approve this message. As president, I ‘ll fight for Mental
: Health Coverage and Eliminate the Loopholes that let drug companies
: charge too much. They say they need high prices to fund research. The
truth?
: Most FDA approved drugs rely on research funded by government. That means
: YOU pay for it. The old politics won’t tell you that. I just did.
: "The old politics won't tell you that, I just did." - Andrew Yang
: ...................

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Cereal1965

您一边歇着去吧。专利制度是典型的利用政府政策来刺激创新。您要讨论专利制度在当今究竟对创新有积极还是消极意义,还有点意思

【 在 goodby() 的大作中提到: 】

: 不懂不要胡说。没有专利保护就不会有新药研发出来。新药研发是充分自由市场竞争的

: ,并没有行业保护壁垒。当然现在的最主要问题是新药研发费用都由美国人买单。别的

: 国家坐享。新药在别的国家价格比美国低很多。美国应该立法新药必须全球价格一致,

: 专利失效后别的国家要仿制和使用也必须承担相应的研发费用份额,这样才可以把新药

: 价格降下来。

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jhe123
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20170602.060376/full/

给你一个反方意见,专门驳斥别国坐享论的。

【 在 goodby () 的大作中提到: 】
: 不懂不要胡说。没有专利保护就不会有新药研发出来。新药研发是充分自由市场竞争的
: ,并没有行业保护壁垒。当然现在的最主要问题是新药研发费用都由美国人买单。别的
: 国家坐享。新药在别的国家价格比美国低很多。美国应该立法新药必须全球价格一致,
: 专利失效后别的国家要仿制和使用也必须承担相应的研发费用份额,这样才可以把新药
: 价格降下来。

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jhe123

呵呵,川普支持者被主流媒体叫做deplorable才几天啊。。。这么快就开始捧主流媒体的臭脚了。

【 在 jiutouniao00 () 的大作中提到: 】
: 主流媒体都不待见你们羊癫疯
: paycheck
: truth?

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xiaoxiaowen

I am Andrew Yang and I approve this message. — Andrew Yang

【 在 Cereal1965 (Cereal) 的大作中提到: 】
: 首先,我不是什么羊,你不要乱扣帽子
: 第二,不懂的是你,建议你去学习之后再来发言。几乎所有的药,早期发现和研究都是
: 联邦政府资助的,因为风险大,收益低,没人愿意去做这种广撒网的事,但这是必须要
: 投资的。企业主要做后期临床应用研究,这个投入跟联邦政府投入比根本就不是一个数
: 量级的
:
: 哪个国家给你投资大头了,这是你胡说的还是羊在胡说?
:
: 每个新药平均十多亿美刀的研发都得药厂先垫进去,国家是收钱的好伐?
:
: 新药专利17年,那是从注册这个分子从研发开始算的,10亿刀10来年千辛万苦:
: 被FDA批准上市后也就剩6-7年的时间能赚钱
:
: 你们羊最好先最点功课再出来丢人现眼
: ...................

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xiaoxiaowen

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【 在 jiutouniao00 () 的大作中提到: 】
: 主流媒体都不待见你们羊癫疯
: paycheck
: truth?