Mr. Lorance was a rookie Army lieutenant who had been in command of a platoon in Afghanistan for two days in July 2012 when he ordered his troops to fire on unarmed villagers who posed no threat, killing two men. He then called in false reports over the radio to cover up what had happened. He was immediately turned in by his own men.
Mr. Lorance, whose story is the subject of a new documentary series, was convicted of second-degree murder by a court-martial in 2013, and he has been in prison since then, serving his sentence at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas.
Major Golsteyn was charged in 2018 with premeditated murder over a killing that took place in 2010, when he was a captain in the Army Special Forces leading a team during Operation Moshtarak, one of the biggest combat operations of the war in Afghanistan. He admitted in a job interview with the C.I.A. the following year that, during the battle, he had killed a suspected bomb maker who had been captured and released, saying he had done so to protect civilians and his own men.
Chief Gallagher was charged by the Navy in 2018 with shooting civilians in Iraq, killing a captive enemy fighter with a hunting knife, and threatening to kill fellow SEALs if they reported him, among other crimes. The charges stemmed from a 2017 deployment in Iraq when he was a chief petty officer leading a SEAL platoon.
【 在 ai1901 (笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】 : 与塔利班合影？？？？拜托！ : Mr. Lorance was a rookie Army lieutenant who had been in command of a : platoon in Afghanistan for two days in July 2012 when he ordered his troops : to fire on unarmed villagers who posed no threat, killing two men. He then : called in false reports over the radio to cover up what had happened. He was : immediately turned in by his own men. : Mr. Lorance, whose story is the subject of a new documentary series, was : convicted of second-degree murder by a court-martial in 2013, and he has : been in prison since then, serving his sentence at Fort Leavenworth in : Kansas. : ...................
While Gallagher was acquitted of murder and obstruction of justice charges in July, a panel of his peers recommended he be reduced in grade for posing with the body of a detainee, a crime he never denied.
【 在 ai1901 (笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】 : 与塔利班合影？？？？拜托！ : Mr. Lorance was a rookie Army lieutenant who had been in command of a : platoon in Afghanistan for two days in July 2012 when he ordered his troops : to fire on unarmed villagers who posed no threat, killing two men. He then : called in false reports over the radio to cover up what had happened. He was : immediately turned in by his own men. : Mr. Lorance, whose story is the subject of a new documentary series, was : convicted of second-degree murder by a court-martial in 2013, and he has : been in prison since then, serving his sentence at Fort Leavenworth in : Kansas. : ...................
Lorance’s case dates back to a 2012 deployment to Afghanistan, when he ordered his soldiers to fire on three unarmed men riding a motorcycle near their patrol. Members of his platoon testified against him at a court- martial trial, describing Lorance as over-zealous and the Afghans as posing no real threat.
While Gallagher was acquitted of murder and obstruction of justice charges in July, a panel of his peers recommended he be reduced in grade for posing with the body of a detainee, a crime he never denied.
Lorance’s case dates back to a 2012 deployment to Afghanistan, when he ordered his soldiers to fire on three unarmed men riding a motorcycle near their patrol. Members of his platoon testified against him at a court- martial trial, describing Lorance as over-zealous and the Afghans as posing no real threat.
He was sentenced to 19 years in prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. In recent years, Lorance and his family had waged a long campaign against his sentence, and found a receptive ear in Trump.
Golsteyn’s case had not yet been decided. He was scheduled for a December trial on charges he murdered an alleged Taliban bomb maker, and burned his remains in a trash pit during a 2010 deployment with 3rd Special Forces Group. Trump’s action effectively puts an end to that legal case before any verdicts were rendered.
Navy investigators said that one SEAL medic was kneeling over the fighter’s head, treating him, when Chief Gallagher walked up and, without saying a word, took out a handmade knife and stabbed the teenager several times in the neck and side.
Investigators said two other SEALs gave similar accounts.
Members of the platoon then posed for photos with Chief Gallagher as he held the teenager’s head up by the hair with one hand, and held his knife in the other. Photos show Chief Gallagher then raising his right hand to perform a re-enlistment ceremony over the dead body, while another SEAL member holds an American flag.
Soon after the episode, investigators said, Chief Gallagher texted a photo of the body to a fellow SEAL member with the message, “I got him with my hunting knife.”
【 在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到: 】 : 你这个故事哪里来的? 给个link 看看? : While Gallagher was acquitted of murder and obstruction of justice charges : in July, a panel of his peers recommended he be reduced in grade for posing : with the body of a detainee, a crime he never denied. : Lorance’s case dates back to a 2012 deployment to Afghanistan, when he : ordered his soldiers to fire on three unarmed men riding a motorcycle near : their patrol. Members of his platoon testified against him at a court- : martial trial, describing Lorance as over-zealous and the Afghans as posing : no real threat. : He was sentenced to 19 years in prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. In : ...................
这个杀人的指控后来没成立. 我贴的文章里面写的很清楚: Gallagher was acquitted of murder and obstruction of justice charges in July.
不是你讲的那样好像真的发生了一样.
【 在 comeandgo (春困秋乏夏打盹) 的大作中提到: 】 : 和尸体拍照是后来的。人本来就是他杀的。 : 感觉像杀人灭口，毁灭口供。 : Navy investigators said that one SEAL medic was kneeling over the fighter ’s : head, treating him, when Chief Gallagher walked up and, without saying a : word, took out a handmade knife and stabbed the teenager several times in : the neck and side. : Investigators said two other SEALs gave similar accounts. : Members of the platoon then posed for photos with Chief Gallagher as he held : the teenager’s head up by the hair with one hand, and held his knife in : the other. Photos show Chief Gallagher then raising his right hand to : ...................
Everyone knows it is true, otherwise there is no way he was sentenced for so long for taking a picture.
【 在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到: 】 : 这个杀人的指控后来没成立. 我贴的文章里面写的很清楚: : Gallagher was acquitted of murder and obstruction of justice charges : in July. : 不是你讲的那样好像真的发生了一样. : ’s : held
１楼题目作为一个宽泛的命题，当然没错；但１楼不讨论具体事实，那它就是垃圾。 例如，如果我说：ai1901污染环境。 这个话也未必有错，只要我能提出具体证据。 但如果我不提出具体证据，只是说ai1901也会产生垃圾啊（任何人都会产生垃圾，正如特赦权是总统都有的职权），那这种说法难道不是垃圾？ 【 在 ai1901 (笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】 : With great power comes great responsibility. : 总统特赦权来自宪法第二条，宪法是个母法，它在许多地方缺少实行细节，留待后人自 : 行发挥。例如这次的弹劾，我们就看到宪法对于弹劾程序没有明确规定，以至于国会（ : 众议院）在程序上有很大的发挥空间。 : 其实民主制度的设计，就像父母带孩子一样，我尊重你会尊重你的责任，所以我给你比 : 较大的空间。这是基于一种尊重与信任的体制，而不是处处像防贼一样，什么都规定得 : 死死的制度。With great power comes great responsibility. : 当然，这样的尊重精神遇到坏人就完蛋了。例如克林顿在下台前最后一天一下特赦了几 : 百人，像这样的滥用结果就是摧毁了整个制度设计的精神。 : 我们需不需要因为克林顿这样的坏人，就干脆取消总统特赦权？这是个可以讨论的问题 : ...................
近日，特朗普就赦免了两名军人，而这两名军人被指控在阿富汗犯有战争罪行，而且还对其海豹突击队排长的头衔进行了恢复。其实他在伊拉克行动中已经受到了降级，为此很多人觉得特朗普这一举动其实也是在虚弱军事的司法系统，而且还让战争罪行受到了容忍，所以也是被很多人所指责。
白宫就发表了一则声明，表示在200多年以来，美国的总统也是使用他们的权利来为一
些值得值得帮助的人提供庇护，比如说让他们有能够为国家提供第2次服务的机会，而
且这与历史上是一致的，而根据五角大楼的一位发言人的说法，他则认为国防部对美国司法系统其实是非常的有信心，而且美国总统本身就是司法的一部分，因此是有权来干涉这些事物的。
但不管如何，一些批评人士却不这么看，觉得这样的行为反而会容忍很多人所犯下的战争罪，从而引起很多人的不满。
“军事司法系统”就是用来消弱军队战斗力的，撤销了都无所谓。深入全民皆兵的国家打仗，使用什么措施保全自己的性命都是应该的。
真可怕，为了舔川，竟然敢说整个军法系统“撤销了都无所谓”。
对敌人比对自己人好，才会削弱军队的战斗力。
CA州长赦免非法移民， 当街释放并保护 非法移民幼女强奸犯，非法移民杀人犯，这些都是外人祸害自己人。 也没有见 DEM 说会削弱司法系统， 移民系统。
什么都跟舔川联系在一起造就了你这个傻Ｘ。
你要真是个老绝户，当我下面的话没说。
你要是有子有女，你可以想象一下他们在战场上生命随时有危险的情况下，还得惦记着自己的一举一动回了国会不会被军事法庭审判定罪你就不会大旗举这么高了，你这号东西，只知道举着道德大旗裸奔，从来都是道德对外，自己随便败坏。
【 在 ai1901(笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】
: 真可怕，为了舔川，竟然敢说整个军法系统“撤销了都无所谓”。
赞第二句话
【 在 firework001 (firework) 的大作中提到: 】
: 什么都跟舔川联系在一起造就了你这个傻Ｘ。
: 你要真是个老绝户，当我下面的话没说。
: 你要是有子有女，你可以想象一下他们在战场上生命随时有危险的情况下，还得惦记着
: 自己的一举一动回了国会不会被军事法庭审判定罪你就不会大旗举这么高了，你这号东
: 西，只知道举着道德大旗裸奔，从来都是道德对外，自己随便败坏。
:
: 真可怕，为了舔川，竟然敢说整个军法系统“撤销了都无所谓”。
:
我也知道其实说到第二句就可以结束了
【 在 rihai(海桑虎桑柱桑等倭杂之克星) 的大作中提到: 】
: 赞第二句话
对于舔川能舔到连军法都不要的人，基本不用理会。
【 在 firework001(firework) 的大作中提到: 】
: 什么都跟舔川联系在一起造就了你这个傻Ｘ。
: 你要真是个老绝户，当我下面的话没说。
: 你要是有子有女，你可以想象一下他们在战场上生命随时有危险的情况下，还得惦记着
: 自己的一举一动回了国会不会被军事法庭审判定罪你就不会大旗举这么高了，你这号东
: 西，只知道举着道德大旗裸奔，从来都是道德对外，自己随便败坏。
所以我的第二句话后面画上句号就应该结束了。我承认后面都是画蛇添足
【 在 ai1901(笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】
: 对于舔川能舔到连军法都不要的人，基本不用理会。
: 惦记着
: 这号东
脑残，你大概没当过兵，你知道没有军法的后果吗？你知道军纪是靠什么维持吗？你知道没有军纪的军队是什么吗？为了舔川，竟然丧心病狂到连军法都可以废掉，还恶毒诅咒我绝后，真是丧心病狂兼愚蠢。
为什么你会疯狂舔川到这种程度？脑化学失调？还是改不了个人崇拜的落伍思维方式，非舔不可强迫症？
撤销军法无所谓，这句千古名言堪比信大法治百病。美新版的川舔都是从那里冒出来的？稀奇古怪的思想，绝不亚于大法弟子。
军纪军法和你们军事法庭的秋后算账可是两回事。你们台湾人应该是都服过兵役的啊，这点道理都不懂？
巴子圣母婊病发第一表现就是发飙，你一发病俺们就都安心了，说明俺们又做对了！
对川普呢，俺只有一点是底线，只要他打大赦DACA的主意俺立马反水，你说俺这还算川舔么？
【 在 ai1901(笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】
: 脑残，你大概没当过兵，你知道没有军法的后果吗？你知道军纪是靠什么维持吗？你知
: 道没有军纪的军队是什么吗？为了舔川，竟然丧心病狂到连军法都可以废掉，还恶毒诅
: 咒我绝后，真是丧心病狂兼愚蠢。
: 为什么你会疯狂舔川到这种程度？脑化学失调？还是改不了个人崇拜的落伍思维方式，
: 非舔不可强迫症？
假台巴子，所以没有付过兵役
盹盹盹
【 在 firework001 (firework) 的大作中提到: 】
: 军纪军法和你们军事法庭的秋后算账可是两回事。你们台湾人应该是都服过兵役的啊，
: 这点道理都不懂？
: 巴子圣母婊病发第一表现就是发飙，你一发病俺们就都安心了，说明俺们又做对了！: 对川普呢，俺只有一点是底线，只要他打大赦DACA的主意俺立马反水，你说俺这还算川
: 舔么？
:
: 脑残，你大概没当过兵，你知道没有军法的后果吗？你知道军纪是靠什么维持吗
: ？你知
:
: 道没有军纪的军队是什么吗？为了舔川，竟然丧心病狂到连军法都可以废掉，还
: 恶毒诅
:
: 咒我绝后，真是丧心病狂兼愚蠢。
: ...................
好像很热闹
美军的大规模杀伤的硬件能力，已经举世无双。
如果对士兵行为再不加约束，很容易变成法西斯军队。更何况，美国军法系统偏向自己人是常识了。
【 在 quanquan1234 () 的大作中提到: 】
: 近日，特朗普就赦免了两名军人，而这两名军人被指控在阿富汗犯有战争罪行，而且还
: 对其海豹突击队排长的头衔进行了恢复。其实他在伊拉克行动中已经受到了降级，为此
: 很多人觉得特朗普这一举动其实也是在虚弱军事的司法系统，而且还让战争罪行受到了
: 容忍，所以也是被很多人所指责。
: 白宫就发表了一则声明，表示在200多年以来，美国的总统也是使用他们的权利来为一
: 些值得值得帮助的人提供庇护，比如说让他们有能够为国家提供第2次服务的机会，而
: 且这与历史上是一致的，而根据五角大楼的一位发言人的说法，他则认为国防部对美国
: 司法系统其实是非常的有信心，而且美国总统本身就是司法的一部分，因此是有权来干
: 涉这些事物的。
: 但不管如何，一些批评人士却不这么看，觉得这样的行为反而会容忍很多人所犯下的战
: ...................
更何况，99.999%的战斗英雄，既没有犯下战争罪，更没有没军事法庭convict。
特朗普大蛇战争罪犯，相当于是对那些真正的战斗英雄比出中指：你们是傻逼。
这相当于大蛇DACA，让那些排大队的合法移民，情何以堪呢？
【 在 comeandgo (春困秋乏夏打盹) 的大作中提到: 】
: 美军的大规模杀伤的硬件能力，已经举世无双。
: 如果对士兵行为再不加约束，很容易变成法西斯军队。更何况，美国军法系统偏向自己
: 人是常识了。
两边都在那对空概念性哔哔，有没有贴一下，这两个人到底被控/判什么罪，他们做了
什么事？
总统的特赦本来就是case by case的。就事论事讨论一下case更合理吧。
我看到的是一个说是命令手下向平民开枪, 一个是和被打死的塔利班合影.
我觉得都没什么问题. 那个电影叫lone ranger好像就是遇到一个放羊的平民,4个人里
面一个支持杀, 另外3个没同意, 包括队长, 结果就放了没杀.
但是人家回头就报告塔利班了. 自己小队就剩一个人, 来救援的直升机也被打下来,死
了10多个. 就是因为当初没把这个放羊的平民给干掉. 这个幸存者回来还说他还是支持不杀 - 尼玛这个就是猪队友, 宋襄公害人还害队友.
战时对方的平民根本不是平民. 没把握的时候当然宁愿对方死而不是自己死了.
和被打死的塔利班合影更不是什么事了. 合个影而已. 对方也首肯了阿, 多大个p事阿.
【 在 Milanol (米兰醇) 的大作中提到: 】
: 两边都在那对空概念性哔哔，有没有贴一下，这两个人到底被控/判什么罪，他们做了
: 什么
: 事？
: 总统的特赦本来就是case by case的。就事论事讨论一下case更合理吧。
与塔利班合影？？？？拜托！
Mr. Lorance was a rookie Army lieutenant who had been in command of a
platoon in Afghanistan for two days in July 2012 when he ordered his troops to fire on unarmed villagers who posed no threat, killing two men. He then
called in false reports over the radio to cover up what had happened. He was immediately turned in by his own men.
Mr. Lorance, whose story is the subject of a new documentary series, was
convicted of second-degree murder by a court-martial in 2013, and he has
been in prison since then, serving his sentence at Fort Leavenworth in
Kansas.
Major Golsteyn was charged in 2018 with premeditated murder over a killing
that took place in 2010, when he was a captain in the Army Special Forces
leading a team during Operation Moshtarak, one of the biggest combat
operations of the war in Afghanistan. He admitted in a job interview with
the C.I.A. the following year that, during the battle, he had killed a
suspected bomb maker who had been captured and released, saying he had done so to protect civilians and his own men.
Chief Gallagher was charged by the Navy in 2018 with shooting civilians in
Iraq, killing a captive enemy fighter with a hunting knife, and threatening to kill fellow SEALs if they reported him, among other crimes. The charges
stemmed from a 2017 deployment in Iraq when he was a chief petty officer
leading a SEAL platoon.
是的，特朗普是特赦，不是假释，这会让这些人 discharged with honors，这是对其
他英雄的打脸。
越战美莱村屠杀案是假释而不是特赦。
美军抓了个15岁的ISIS兵，治疗快治好了，还没审讯呢，结果这个逗逼冲进来当着医生的面就把这个俘虏几刀给捅死了，LOL。
感觉这个逗逼会不会是卧底，着急杀人灭口掩盖什么ISIS秘密。
【 在 ai1901 (笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】
: 与塔利班合影？？？？拜托！
: Mr. Lorance was a rookie Army lieutenant who had been in command of a
: platoon in Afghanistan for two days in July 2012 when he ordered his
troops
: to fire on unarmed villagers who posed no threat, killing two men. He then
: called in false reports over the radio to cover up what had happened. He
was
: immediately turned in by his own men.
: Mr. Lorance, whose story is the subject of a new documentary series, was
: convicted of second-degree murder by a court-martial in 2013, and he has
: been in prison since then, serving his sentence at Fort Leavenworth in
: Kansas.
: ...................
军事司法系统"撤销了都无所谓"，这句千古名言堪比信大法治百病。美新版的川舔都是从那里冒出来的？稀奇古怪的思想，绝不亚于大法弟子。
就是合影的事情, 拜托.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/11/16/trump-grants-clemency-to-troops-in-three-controversial-war-crimes-cases/
While Gallagher was acquitted of murder and obstruction of justice charges
in July, a panel of his peers recommended he be reduced in grade for posing with the body of a detainee, a crime he never denied.
【 在 ai1901 (笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】
: 与塔利班合影？？？？拜托！
: Mr. Lorance was a rookie Army lieutenant who had been in command of a
: platoon in Afghanistan for two days in July 2012 when he ordered his
troops
: to fire on unarmed villagers who posed no threat, killing two men. He then
: called in false reports over the radio to cover up what had happened. He
was
: immediately turned in by his own men.
: Mr. Lorance, whose story is the subject of a new documentary series, was
: convicted of second-degree murder by a court-martial in 2013, and he has
: been in prison since then, serving his sentence at Fort Leavenworth in
: Kansas.
: ...................
Lorance’s case dates back to a 2012 deployment to Afghanistan, when he
ordered his soldiers to fire on three unarmed men riding a motorcycle near
their patrol. Members of his platoon testified against him at a court-
martial trial, describing Lorance as over-zealous and the Afghans as posing no real threat.
你这个故事哪里来的? 给个link 看看?
While Gallagher was acquitted of murder and obstruction of justice charges
in July, a panel of his peers recommended he be reduced in grade for posing with the body of a detainee, a crime he never denied.
Lorance’s case dates back to a 2012 deployment to Afghanistan, when he
ordered his soldiers to fire on three unarmed men riding a motorcycle near
their patrol. Members of his platoon testified against him at a court-
martial trial, describing Lorance as over-zealous and the Afghans as posing no real threat.
He was sentenced to 19 years in prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. In
recent years, Lorance and his family had waged a long campaign against his
sentence, and found a receptive ear in Trump.
Golsteyn’s case had not yet been decided. He was scheduled for a December
trial on charges he murdered an alleged Taliban bomb maker, and burned his
remains in a trash pit during a 2010 deployment with 3rd Special Forces
Group. Trump’s action effectively puts an end to that legal case before any verdicts were rendered.
【 在 comeandgo (春困秋乏夏打盹) 的大作中提到: 】
: 美军抓了个15岁的ISIS兵，在医院治疗快治好了，还没审讯呢，结果这个逗逼冲进来当
: 着医生的面就把这个俘虏几刀给捅死了，LOL。
: 感觉这个逗逼会不会是卧底，着急杀人灭口掩盖什么ISIS秘密。
: troops
: was
对平民开枪，因情况而异。不能因为极端个例就不限制对平民的杀戮。各种因素相信军事法庭可以审理清楚。是否应该特赦，存疑。
和尸体合影那个我看了。判得没错，放的也没错。和强奸妇女一样，和尸体合影容易激起对方斗志，必须有官方的限制。但是毕竟只是小事没必要毁人一辈子，特赦很妥当。
【 在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我看到的是一个说是命令手下向平民开枪, 一个是和被打死的塔利班合影.
: 我觉得都没什么问题. 那个电影叫lone ranger好像就是遇到一个放羊的平民,4个人里
: 面一个支持杀, 另外3个没同意, 包括队长, 结果就放了没杀.
: 但是人家回头就报告塔利班了. 自己小队就剩一个人, 来救援的直升机也被打下来,死
: 了10多个. 就是因为当初没把这个放羊的平民给干掉. 这个幸存者回来还说他还是支持
: 不杀 - 尼玛这个就是猪队友, 宋襄公害人还害队友.
: 战时对方的平民根本不是平民. 没把握的时候当然宁愿对方死而不是自己死了.
: 和被打死的塔利班合影更不是什么事了. 合个影而已. 对方也首肯了阿, 多大个p事
阿.
和尸体拍照是后来的。人本来就是他杀的。
感觉像杀人灭口，毁灭口供。
Navy investigators said that one SEAL medic was kneeling over the fighter’s head, treating him, when Chief Gallagher walked up and, without saying a
word, took out a handmade knife and stabbed the teenager several times in
the neck and side.
Investigators said two other SEALs gave similar accounts.
Members of the platoon then posed for photos with Chief Gallagher as he held the teenager’s head up by the hair with one hand, and held his knife in
the other. Photos show Chief Gallagher then raising his right hand to
perform a re-enlistment ceremony over the dead body, while another SEAL
member holds an American flag.
Soon after the episode, investigators said, Chief Gallagher texted a photo
of the body to a fellow SEAL member with the message, “I got him with my
hunting knife.”
【 在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你这个故事哪里来的? 给个link 看看?
: While Gallagher was acquitted of murder and obstruction of justice charges
: in July, a panel of his peers recommended he be reduced in grade for
posing
: with the body of a detainee, a crime he never denied.
: Lorance’s case dates back to a 2012 deployment to Afghanistan, when he
: ordered his soldiers to fire on three unarmed men riding a motorcycle near
: their patrol. Members of his platoon testified against him at a court-
: martial trial, describing Lorance as over-zealous and the Afghans as
posing
: no real threat.
: He was sentenced to 19 years in prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. In
: ...................
这个杀人的指控后来没成立. 我贴的文章里面写的很清楚:
Gallagher was acquitted of murder and obstruction of justice charges
in July.
不是你讲的那样好像真的发生了一样.
【 在 comeandgo (春困秋乏夏打盹) 的大作中提到: 】
: 和尸体拍照是后来的。人本来就是他杀的。
: 感觉像杀人灭口，毁灭口供。
: Navy investigators said that one SEAL medic was kneeling over the fighter
’s
: head, treating him, when Chief Gallagher walked up and, without saying a : word, took out a handmade knife and stabbed the teenager several times in : the neck and side.
: Investigators said two other SEALs gave similar accounts.
: Members of the platoon then posed for photos with Chief Gallagher as he
held
: the teenager’s head up by the hair with one hand, and held his knife in : the other. Photos show Chief Gallagher then raising his right hand to
: ...................
Everyone knows it is true, otherwise there is no way he was sentenced for so long for taking a picture.
【 在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这个杀人的指控后来没成立. 我贴的文章里面写的很清楚:
: Gallagher was acquitted of murder and obstruction of justice charges
: in July.
: 不是你讲的那样好像真的发生了一样.
: ’s
: held
everyone knows最后还acquit了, 你以为别人都是傻子, 都没你聪明嘛?
【 在 comeandgo (春困秋乏夏打盹) 的大作中提到: 】
: Everyone knows it is true, otherwise there is no way he was sentenced for so
: long for taking a picture.
【 在 comeandgo (春困秋乏夏打盹) 的大作中提到: 】
: 美军的大规模杀伤的硬件能力，已经举世无双。
: 如果对士兵行为再不加约束，很容易变成法西斯军队。更何况，美国军法系统偏向自己
: 人是常识了。
说的很对
这篇文章从根子上是垃圾，呵呵。
首先，它的重点就是《特朗普赦免被控战争罪的军人，会削弱美军事司法系统》，题目如此。至于题目是谁加上去的，我没考证，但顶了这个题目以后，文章肯定就是垃圾。
原因很简单：只要是总统特赦，都会“削弱XX司法系统”。那么，为什么不干脆取消美国总统的特赦权？
当然，我不是说，总统的特赦就不能批评。但你总得提出点具体内容来：为什么这项特赦不对。或者，你就专门批判特赦权。你拿一个泛泛而论的理由，盯着川普进行批评，这不是垃圾行径么？
这就如同，如果你认为美国就不该有总统制（总统制和总统的特赦权都是现有制度），那当然也没问题。但你应该直接说“美国就不该有总统制”，而不能说“川普如何如何”。
With great power comes great responsibility.
总统特赦权来自宪法第二条，宪法是个母法，它在许多地方缺少实行细节，留待后人自行发挥。例如这次的弹劾，我们就看到宪法对于弹劾程序没有明确规定，以至于国会（众议院）在程序上有很大的发挥空间。
其实民主制度的设计，就像父母带孩子一样，我尊重你会尊重你的责任，所以我给你比较大的空间。这是基于一种尊重与信任的体制，而不是处处像防贼一样，什么都规定得死死的制度。With great power comes great responsibility.
当然，这样的尊重精神遇到坏人就完蛋了。例如克林顿在下台前最后一天一下特赦了几百人，像这样的滥用结果就是摧毁了整个制度设计的精神。
我们需不需要因为克林顿这样的坏人，就干脆取消总统特赦权？这是个可以讨论的问题，这里我只想告诉你：《特朗普赦免被控战争罪的军人，会削弱美军事司法系统》这个命题并没有错，但即使特朗普消弱了军事司法系统，或者克林顿滥用的特赦权，也不见得结果就必须是取消特赦权。
政治制度的设计不是假设所有人都是坏人，也不是假设所有人都是好人，是两者间的拿捏。我们不用一动就走极端，凡事非黑即白 --- “因为有克林顿特朗普这种王八蛋，
就要怎么样怎么样！”思考一下先，为什么要有总统特赦权 in the first place？
【 在 YXLM (非要昵称不可吗) 的大作中提到: 】
: 这篇文章从根子上是垃圾，呵呵。
: 首先，它的重点就是《特朗普赦免被控战争罪的军人，会削弱美军事司法系统》，
: 题目如此。至于题目是谁加上去的，我没考证，但顶了这个题目以后，文章肯定就是垃
: 圾。
: 原因很简单：只要是总统特赦，都会“削弱XX司法系统”。那么，为什么不干脆取
: 消美国总统的特赦权？
: 当然，我不是说，总统的特赦就不能批评。但你总得提出点具体内容来：为什么这
: 项特赦不对。或者，你就专门批判特赦权。你拿一个泛泛而论的理由，盯着川普进行批
: 评，这不是垃圾行径么？
: 这就如同，如果你认为美国就不该有总统制（总统制和总统的特赦权都是现有制度
: ...................
我理解你为什么取消军事司法系统你好像死了希拉里（qin niang) 一样，因为军事司
法系统是你们圣母婊最能吃着人血馒头做圣母的地方。自古以来人类历史就充满了战争，战争就充满了杀戮，军事司法才存在几年？军纪军法在战场上就执行了，凡是秋后算帐判决自己人的都应该自己去战场上挨枪子儿。
巴子你们台湾人最爱舔日本人，你舔清楚那些日本战犯被军事法庭审判的结果了吗？
【 在 ai1901(笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】
: 军事司法系统"撤销了都无所谓"，这句千古名言堪比信大法治百病。美新版
: 的川舔都是从那里冒出来的？稀奇古怪的思想，绝不亚于大法弟子。
１楼题目作为一个宽泛的命题，当然没错；但１楼不讨论具体事实，那它就是垃圾。
例如，如果我说：ai1901污染环境。
这个话也未必有错，只要我能提出具体证据。
但如果我不提出具体证据，只是说ai1901也会产生垃圾啊（任何人都会产生垃圾，正如特赦权是总统都有的职权），那这种说法难道不是垃圾？
【 在 ai1901 (笑看众生) 的大作中提到: 】
: With great power comes great responsibility.
: 总统特赦权来自宪法第二条，宪法是个母法，它在许多地方缺少实行细节，留待后人自
: 行发挥。例如这次的弹劾，我们就看到宪法对于弹劾程序没有明确规定，以至于国会（
: 众议院）在程序上有很大的发挥空间。
: 其实民主制度的设计，就像父母带孩子一样，我尊重你会尊重你的责任，所以我给你比
: 较大的空间。这是基于一种尊重与信任的体制，而不是处处像防贼一样，什么都规定得
: 死死的制度。With great power comes great responsibility.
: 当然，这样的尊重精神遇到坏人就完蛋了。例如克林顿在下台前最后一天一下特赦了几
: 百人，像这样的滥用结果就是摧毁了整个制度设计的精神。
: 我们需不需要因为克林顿这样的坏人，就干脆取消总统特赦权？这是个可以讨论的问题
: ...................