不可以太极端。很多好成果是当年和现在工业界的大牛lab 做出来的。at&t bell lab, intel, ibm.
industry lab has its advantages: (1) researcher can be more focused (2) has access to more relevant resources.
of course, not sure whether google lab has reached the level of bell, intel and ibm lab.
talking about making big money, research is never the best. yet talking about respect, research path is never the worst either.
so if you are sure you can never become Lu Qi and Ng, and have passion and capability on research, research at google lab for sure will not be a bad choice.
if you don't have any passion, that is a different story. developing product (if you are really good and can reach resonablly good level.) for long run you can earn more money....
【 在 believeme (smile) 的大作中提到: 】 不可以太极端。很多好成果是当年和现在工业界的大牛lab 做出来的。at&t bell lab, intel, ibm. industry lab has its advantages: (1) researcher can be more focused (2) has access to more relevant resources. of course, not sure whether google lab has reached the level of bell, intel and ibm lab. talking about making big money, research is never the best. yet talking about respect, research path is never the worst either. so if you are sure you can never become Lu Qi and Ng, and have passion and ...................
我查了下那个组的同事,清一色的牛校cs phd,应该实力是挺强的。
但是我认识几个从research跳到SWE的人说那边不太好,升级很慢,钱也未必多很多。
我也感觉跳过去以后做的东西太窄了,就是研究一些算法应用到某一两个Google
product上什么的。以后再换project或者换工作局限性会有点大。
大家觉得我这样跳过去值得吗?
这绝对是个big no no,重大减分项。
职业发展应该去竞争少机会多的地方才能事半功倍。
老中刷题,天天钻研技术,累死累活的,有卵用
,在这里某个research职位聊以自慰的。看陆齐轻松干翻吴宏达就是很好的例子。
intel, ibm.
industry lab has its advantages: (1) researcher can be more focused (2) has access to more relevant resources.
of course, not sure whether google lab has reached the level of bell, intel and ibm lab.
talking about making big money, research is never the best. yet talking
about
respect, research path is never the worst either.
so if you are sure you can never become Lu Qi and Ng, and have passion and
capability on research, research at google lab for sure will not be a bad
choice.
if you don't have any passion, that is a different story. developing product (if you are really good and can reach resonablly good level.) for long run you can earn more money....
自我提升和满足比做鸡头强多了。
Google for work 的VP就是以前yahoo lab 的头,伯克利CS教授
各大lab跑来码code 多了去了,不管哪行,除了少数牛人,都是混饭的
following your heart.
I just think below comments a little bit 极端:
"这种地方就是学术扔货们混不上正经的faculty职位,对“科研”抱有高人一等的幻觉 ,在这里某个research职位聊以自慰的。看陆齐轻松干翻吴宏达就是很好的例子"
沈向洋更是正经的industry research lab出来的,还有李开复。。
你现在看业内最成功的这几个华人,或多或少都有industry research lab的背景。
不过换个方法问一下,几个凡事都听你然后喜欢你从头到尾手把手教的同事和几个牛校毕业各有主见的同事,你选啥?
有资格的太多了,不爱去是真的
peer pressure其实也还好 G的大环境就那样 成天不怎么干活的人多了去了 research
里也少不了微软研究院跑出来成天到处混的
俺也有类似问题,焦虑啊
和产品结合紧密,可能是有些边缘化的