All entitlement spending isn”t created equal. The “Big Three” of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for more than two-thirds of all federal entitlement spending. Social Security and Medicare
Big Three accounting for $1.6 trillion of this total. The largest expenditure was for Social Security ($690 billion), followed by Medicare ($ 518 billion) and Medicaid ($405 billion).
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 所谓的非法移民吃福利的说法完全缺少数字支持。都是人云亦云。 这三大项目里面 非法移民 拿social security 可以忽略不计。Medicare 可以忽略不 计。 仅仅 第三项 才有可能被 abuse。但非法移民看er能有多少。总共就那么些个 er 。能花多少钱。 宣称非法移民吃坏国家福利的 最好提供具体数据。 All entitlement spending isn”t created equal. The “Big Three” of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for more than two-thirds of all federal entitlement spending. Social Security and Medicare Big Three accounting for $1.6 trillion of this total. The largest expenditure was for Social Security ($690 billion), followed by Medicare ($ ...................
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 所谓的非法移民吃福利的说法完全缺少数字支持。都是人云亦云。 这三大项目里面 非法移民 拿social security 可以忽略不计。Medicare 可以忽略不 计。 仅仅 第三项 才有可能被 abuse。但非法移民看er能有多少。总共就那么些个 er 。能花多少钱。 宣称非法移民吃坏国家福利的 最好提供具体数据。 All entitlement spending isn”t created equal. The “Big Three” of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for more than two-thirds of all federal entitlement spending. Social Security and Medicare Big Three accounting for $1.6 trillion of this total. The largest expenditure was for Social Security ($690 billion), followed by Medicare ($ ...................
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 所谓的非法移民吃福利的说法完全缺少数字支持。都是人云亦云。 这三大项目里面 非法移民 拿social security 可以忽略不计。Medicare 可以忽略不 计。 仅仅 第三项 才有可能被 abuse。但非法移民看er能有多少。总共就那么些个 er 。能花多少钱。 宣称非法移民吃坏国家福利的 最好提供具体数据。 All entitlement spending isn”t created equal. The “Big Three” of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for more than two-thirds of all federal entitlement spending. Social Security and Medicare Big Three accounting for $1.6 trillion of this total. The largest expenditure was for Social Security ($690 billion), followed by Medicare ($ ...................
考虑到no child left behind的影响，可能非法移民子女的平均教育开销是高于本土公民的。
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 所谓的非法移民吃福利的说法完全缺少数字支持。都是人云亦云。 这三大项目里面 非法移民 拿social security 可以忽略不计。Medicare 可以忽略不 计。 仅仅 第三项 才有可能被 abuse。但非法移民看er能有多少。总共就那么些个 er 。能花多少钱。 宣称非法移民吃坏国家福利的 最好提供具体数据。 All entitlement spending isn”t created equal. The “Big Three” of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for more than two-thirds of all federal entitlement spending. Social Security and Medicare Big Three accounting for $1.6 trillion of this total. The largest expenditure was for Social Security ($690 billion), followed by Medicare ($ ...................
【 在 maoxian() 的大作中提到: 】 所谓的非法移民吃福利的说法完全缺少数字支持。都是人云亦云。 这三大项目里面 非法移民 拿social security 可以忽略不计。Medicare 可以 忽略不 计。 仅仅 第三项 才有可能被 abuse。但非法移民看er能有多少。总共就那么 些个er 。能花多少钱。 宣称非法移民吃坏国家福利的 最好提供具体数据。 All entitlement spending isn”t created equal. The “Big Three” of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for more than two-thirds of all federal entitlement spending. Social Security and Medicare Big Three accounting for $1.6 trillion of this total. The largest expenditure was for Social Security ($690 billion), followed by Medicare ($ ...................
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 所谓的非法移民吃福利的说法完全缺少数字支持。都是人云亦云。 这三大项目里面 非法移民 拿social security 可以忽略不计。Medicare 可以忽略不 计。 仅仅 第三项 才有可能被 abuse。但非法移民看er能有多少。总共就那么些个 er 。能花多少钱。 宣称非法移民吃坏国家福利的 最好提供具体数据。 All entitlement spending isn”t created equal. The “Big Three” of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for more than two-thirds of all federal entitlement spending. Social Security and Medicare Big Three accounting for $1.6 trillion of this total. The largest expenditure was for Social Security ($690 billion), followed by Medicare ($ ...................
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 所谓的非法移民吃福利的说法完全缺少数字支持。都是人云亦云。 这三大项目里面 非法移民 拿social security 可以忽略不计。Medicare 可以忽略不 计。 仅仅 第三项 才有可能被 abuse。但非法移民看er能有多少。总共就那么些个 er 。能花多少钱。 宣称非法移民吃坏国家福利的 最好提供具体数据。 All entitlement spending isn”t created equal. The “Big Three” of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for more than two-thirds of all federal entitlement spending. Social Security and Medicare Big Three accounting for $1.6 trillion of this total. The largest expenditure was for Social Security ($690 billion), followed by Medicare ($ ...................
They are not a cause but just an effect of our economic problems. Illegal immigration is an independent issue. If we don't want open borders. That's fine. We have immigration laws. Just enforcing the law. But don't sell this as a solution to our economic problems.
Illegal immigrants didn't take a lot of jobs. not a major factor.
Illegal immigrants didn't take a lot of benefits. not a major factor.
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 They are not a cause but just an effect of our economic problems. Illegal : immigration is an independent issue. If we don't want open borders. That 's fine. We have immigration laws. Just enforcing the law. But don't sell this as a solution to our economic problems. Illegal immigrants didn't take a lot of jobs. not a major factor. Illegal immigrants didn't take a lot of benefits. not a major factor. : [在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到：] :玩笑之外，补充一句。你说的好像你们州的非移不流窜似的。
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As Leah02wrote yesterday, there’s a huge spike in illegal aliens pouring across the border. The exodus from Central America has reportedly created the largest case of mass immigration since the 1980s. These people are often poor and need assistance in order to survive. When American citizens fall on hard times, they look to the social safety net. For some in Washington, they’re designing the net to trap the working poor into government dependence, instead of a temporary cushion from total disaster.
That’s a separate debate, but for those American families receiving government assistance, I’m sure they’re probably not happy that illegals are receiving over $1,200 more in benefits every year (via02Washington Examiner):
llegal immigrant households receive an average of $5,692 in federal welfare benefits every year, far more than the average "native" American household, at $4,431, according to a new report on the cost of immigration released Monday.
Funding the K-12 education for children who are themselves illegal aliens and for the citizen children of illegal aliens accounted for the largest share of the cost to taxpayers at $14.4 billion. These services included standard public school educations and supplemental English language instruction. Despite federal funding, the average per pupil expenditure is $10,450 each year. Justice and law enforcement costs — policing, court and incarceration — associated with illegal aliens soared to more than $4.4 billion. Medical services cost taxpayers approximately $4 billion, including $388 million associated with 68,000 births to illegal alien mothers. Public assistance — low-cost meal programs, free immunizations, etc. — are available to residents regardless of legal status. The $792 million price tag for these services is borne by California taxpayers.
maoxian () 发于 Sun Nov 27 14:11:42 2016, 美东, 信区: USANews标02 题: Re: 加州纽约的纳税人难道就愿意为庞大福利买单？
所谓的非法移民吃福利的说法完全缺少数字支持。都是人云亦云。02
【 在 lczlcz (lcz) 的大作中提到: 】 http://www.fairus.org/news/illegal-immigration-costs-california-taxpayers-more-than-25-billion-a-year-finds-fair Among the report's key findings: Funding the K-12 education for children who are themselves illegal aliens and for the citizen children of illegal aliens accounted for the largest share of the cost to taxpayers at $14.4 billion. These services included standard public school educations and supplemental English language instruction. Despite federal funding, the average per pupil expenditure is $10,450 each year. Justice and law enforcement costs — policing, court and incarceration — associated with illegal aliens soared to more than $4.4 billion. ...................
These include direct cash assistance in the form of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF); food aid such as free school lunch, the Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) nutrition program, and food stamps; Medicaid; and housing assistance in the form of rent subsidies and public housing.
The total cost is over $103 billion in welfare benefits to households headed by immigrants. A majority, 51 percent, of immigrant households receive some type of welfare compared to 30 percent of native households, said the02 analysis of Census data.
这来自于同一个链接。
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 你这个数据有误导性。主要是分母也就是被除数的数字没有给出来。结论很吓人。好像 要说有的非法移民都算上 然后他们平均 比其他人多拿福利一样。其实 这个数据我理 解的是 仅仅包括了那些拿联邦福利的非法移民。这个很可能是少数人。如果不给 分母 那么看平均数意义不大。 要看 总数 和 花费百分比。 因为有可能是 拿福利的非法 移民绝对数量小 只是平均拿到的额度高而已。 从你的链接 有一个cis 的详细调查 引用如下。 These include direct cash assistance in the form of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF); food aid : such as free school lunch, the Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) nutrition program, and food stamps; Medicaid; and housing assistance in the form of : ...................
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 你这个数据有误导性。主要是分母也就是被除数的数字没有给出来。结论很吓人。好像 要说有的非法移民都算上 然后他们平均 比其他人多拿福利一样。其实 这个数据我理 解的是 仅仅包括了那些拿联邦福利的非法移民。这个很可能是少数人。如果不给 分母 那么看平均数意义不大。 要看 总数 和 花费百分比。 因为有可能是 拿福利的非法 移民绝对数量小 只是平均拿到的额度高而已。 从你的链接 有一个cis 的详细调查 引用如下。 These include direct cash assistance in the form of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF); food aid : such as free school lunch, the Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) nutrition program, and food stamps; Medicaid; and housing assistance in the form of : ...................
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 所谓的非法移民吃福利的说法完全缺少数字支持。都是人云亦云。 这三大项目里面 非法移民 拿social security 可以忽略不计。Medicare 可以忽略不 计。 仅仅 第三项 才有可能被 abuse。但非法移民看er能有多少。总共就那么些个 er 。能花多少钱。 宣称非法移民吃坏国家福利的 最好提供具体数据。 All entitlement spending isn”t created equal. The “Big Three” of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for more than two-thirds of all federal entitlement spending. Social Security and Medicare Big Three accounting for $1.6 trillion of this total. The largest expenditure was for Social Security ($690 billion), followed by Medicare ($ ...................
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 They are not a cause but just an effect of our economic problems. Illegal : immigration is an independent issue. If we don't want open borders. That 's fine. We have immigration laws. Just enforcing the law. But don't sell this as a solution to our economic problems. Illegal immigrants didn't take a lot of jobs. not a major factor. Illegal immigrants didn't take a lot of benefits. not a major factor. : [在 fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王) 的大作中提到：] :玩笑之外，补充一句。你说的好像你们州的非移不流窜似的。
【 在 maoxian () 的大作中提到: 】 你这个数据有误导性。主要是分母也就是被除数的数字没有给出来。结论很吓人。好像 要说有的非法移民都算上 然后他们平均 比其他人多拿福利一样。其实 这个数据我理 解的是 仅仅包括了那些拿联邦福利的非法移民。这个很可能是少数人。如果不给 分母 那么看平均数意义不大。 要看 总数 和 花费百分比。 因为有可能是 拿福利的非法 移民绝对数量小 只是平均拿到的额度高而已。 从你的链接 有一个cis 的详细调查 引用如下。 These include direct cash assistance in the form of Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF); food aid : such as free school lunch, the Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) nutrition program, and food stamps; Medicaid; and housing assistance in the form of : ...................
我也在纽约30多年了。可以说你的这些话很多是不正确甚至是错的。 “Turning 65 is one way you can be eligible for Medicare. You can also be under 65 years old and still qualify for Medicare because you are receiving Social Security Disability Insurance, or SSDI. In most cases, you qualify for Medicare due to a disability if you have been receiving SSDI checks for more than 24 months.”
【 在 kevL (树熊在抱着树干!) 的大作中提到: 】 我也在纽约30多年了。可以说你的这些话很多是不正确甚至是错的。 “Turning 65 is one way you can be eligible for Medicare. You can also be : under 65 years old and still qualify for Medicare because you are receiving Social Security Disability Insurance, or SSDI. In most cases, you qualify : for Medicare due to a disability if you have been receiving SSDI checks for more than 24 months.” 可以说你父母接受medicare本身就证明了你父母就正在享受福利。而这些都是无法“用 钱买的”。你必须正在接受某种社会福利才可以接受medicare.至少你也得有social : security.在纽约，非法人士无法享受绝大多数福利。medicare就是其中一个。 日
好像有哪个说要我谷歌的.我就谷歌了一下. "USDA reports that all 50 states, DC, and Puerto Rico are now using EBT systems. The federal government pays 100 percent of SNAP/Food Stamp program benefits. Federal and State governments share administrative costs (with the federal government contributing nearly 50 percent). "
【 在 kevL (树熊在抱着树干!) 的大作中提到: 】 好像有哪个说要我谷歌的.我就谷歌了一下. "USDA reports that all 50 states, DC, and Puerto Rico are now using EBT systems. The federal government pays 100 percent of SNAP/Food Stamp program benefits. Federal and State governments share administrative costs (with the federal government contributing nearly 50 percent). " 这是州的吧。你的原话
原因就是高税收的后果。而且加州纽约的
高收入者来自全国各地，是因为有美国
做强大后盾
如果加州独立，前景就是墨西哥的
Baja California ，如果纽约独立，前景
就是巴西的里约热内卢。
而且无论加州纽约要独立公投，估计
得票都不会超过10%。
而且只要消减这两个州庞大的福利，
就会消灭民主党的福利票。
敌不过一千多万福利票，以及几百万
反客为主的非法移民。
这三大项目里面 非法移民 拿social security 可以忽略不计。Medicare 可以忽略不
计。 仅仅 第三项 才有可能被 abuse。但非法移民看er能有多少。总共就那么些个er
。能花多少钱。
宣称非法移民吃坏国家福利的 最好提供具体数据。
All entitlement spending isn”t created equal. The “Big Three” of Social
Security, Medicare, and Medicaid account for more than two-thirds of all
federal entitlement spending. Social Security and Medicare
Big Three accounting for $1.6 trillion of this total. The largest
expenditure was for Social Security ($690 billion), followed by Medicare ($
518 billion) and Medicaid ($405 billion).
红波和小黑用的福利比非移多多了
但是政客们不敢说
只敢骂非移
因为不需要勇气
问题是福利不是设计来提供给非法入侵者的呀。
但是
就算赶走了非移
也解决不了问题
所以这就是政客们放的烟幕弹
转移矛盾
你们傻傻的跟着瞎吵吵
考虑到no child left behind的影响，可能非法移民子女的平均教育开销是高于本土公民的。
民主嘛，50.1%就可以强奸另外49.9%的意愿
少数派可以搬去别的州。
有世外桃源？
加州非法移民子女占18岁以下人口超过20%，几乎
90%以上在吃福利。
丫完全没有考虑州的福利和地方的各种补助。
你的州你可以搬走 没人强迫你。州一级别的钱怎么花 我们有 ballot measure 投票表决。
我们加州的问题 我们自己的state tax 怎么花 关你什么事
immigration is an independent issue. If we don't want open borders. That's fine. We have immigration laws. Just enforcing the law. But don't sell this as a solution to our economic problems.
Illegal immigrants didn't take a lot of jobs. not a major factor.
Illegal immigrants didn't take a lot of benefits. not a major factor.
每年汇给墨西哥的钱都是非移在地上捡的，失主还坚持不要。
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As Leah02wrote yesterday, there’s a huge spike in illegal aliens pouring across the border. The exodus from Central America has reportedly created
the largest case of mass immigration since the 1980s. These people are often poor and need assistance in order to survive. When American citizens fall
on hard times, they look to the social safety net. For some in Washington,
they’re designing the net to trap the working poor into government
dependence, instead of a temporary cushion from total disaster.
That’s a separate debate, but for those American families receiving
government assistance, I’m sure they’re probably not happy that illegals
are receiving over $1,200 more in benefits every year (via02Washington
Examiner):
llegal immigrant households receive an average of $5,692 in federal welfare benefits every year, far more than the average "native" American household, at $4,431, according to a new report on the cost of immigration released
Monday.
http://www.google.com/amp/m.townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/05/11/waitillegal-immigrants-get-1200-more-in-welfare-benefits-than-american-families-n2161305
laboror 类型的工作 也不是在加州农场摘草莓的工作。
Among the report's key findings:
Funding the K-12 education for children who are themselves illegal
aliens and for the citizen children of illegal aliens accounted for the
largest share of the cost to taxpayers at $14.4 billion. These services
included standard public school educations and supplemental English language instruction. Despite federal funding, the average per pupil expenditure is $10,450 each year.
Justice and law enforcement costs — policing, court and incarceration
— associated with illegal aliens soared to more than $4.4 billion.
Medical services cost taxpayers approximately $4 billion, including $388 million associated with 68,000 births to illegal alien mothers.
Public assistance — low-cost meal programs, free immunizations, etc. — are available to residents regardless of legal status. The $792 million
price tag for these services is borne by California taxpayers.
俺帮你翻译好了，非移家庭每年比普通美国家庭多接受一千多美金的联邦补助。
maoxian () 发于 Sun Nov 27 14:11:42 2016, 美东, 信区: USANews标02 题: Re: 加州纽约的纳税人难道就愿意为庞大福利买单？
所谓的非法移民吃福利的说法完全缺少数字支持。都是人云亦云。02
解的是 仅仅包括了那些拿联邦福利的非法移民。这个很可能是少数人。如果不给 分母 那么看平均数意义不大。 要看 总数 和 花费百分比。 因为有可能是 拿福利的非法
移民绝对数量小 只是平均拿到的额度高而已。
从你的链接 有一个cis 的详细调查 引用如下。
These include direct cash assistance in the form of Supplemental Security
Income (SSI) and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF); food aid
such as free school lunch, the Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) nutrition program, and food stamps; Medicaid; and housing assistance in the form of
rent subsidies and public housing.
这里面 第一个SSI 是给65 岁以上的老人穷人的救助 重点还包括了给盲人和其他残疾
人的救助。有非法移民申请 这个应该是有。但是这个基本属于人道主义援助了。这样
也算？ 而且65岁以上的 非法移民 或残疾人的非法移民能有多少？ 第二个TANF. 加州叫做 Calworks 这个按照规矩 只有公民和合法移民才可以申请 重点时是暂时性的。主要帮助申请人短期内进入职场。 我觉得非法移民申请人应该很少 如果有 fraud。
第三个 school lunch 这个非法移民在享用。但是这个 真花不了几个钱。这个在一个
文明社会 不让任何一个孩子挨饿 这算是基本最低人权。最后一个 medicaid。在加州 白卡计划 基本没什么用。 很少有医生接受。主要是还是看er。这里有abuse 但是 不 significant。
另外 福利项目的设计并没有绝对的要求一定百分之百为公民移民服务。比如 针对残疾人的救助。再比如加州的白卡 哪怕是一个外国人临时进入美国生孩子 那么这部分医院花费由加州福利cover。
加州独立，左派可以看看多少公司会撤出加州。
The total cost is over $103 billion in welfare benefits to households headed by immigrants. A majority, 51 percent, of immigrant households receive some type of welfare compared to 30 percent of native households, said the02
analysis of Census data.
这来自于同一个链接。
你可以去细分这些移民家庭多少非移，多少合法移民。但是不要拍脑袋猜原因，这需要数据。
至于人道主义啊，紧急医疗补助啊，这些都可以商量。但是问题是，怎么商量？美国政府连具体非移人数都不清楚，边境法律都不能执行，你让纳税人怎么决定政策？
对毛腺其实可以用经典的反驳，你自己愿意捐给非移多少钱？
非法移民 即便入境有问题 有部分福利是可以合理合法享用的。比如emergency
service.
有些福利按照法律 非法移民不符合条件 但是在享用。这是fraud
那么你到底反对的是前者还是后者。如果你反对前者 那么你是反对这个program。这个和非法移民关系不大。你主要需要改法律。 如果你反对是后者 那么重点是有内部调查监督机制 减少和杜绝 fraud. 因为fraud 不只是非法移民才有。
不论哪种都 和 反非法移民 没有有必然联系。
具体该怎么做，请去看床铺政策。我是谁啊我。
身上？吭哧吭哧早起晚睡遵纪守法交着税买着昂贵保险的普通人。
你这逻辑就跟中国“所有官员都贪污，凭啥就抓我一个”一样。非法移民有罪，那就反非法移民就行了，其他人的问题有其他方案解决。
如果是福利的fraud 难道你不应该是 反fraud吗？ 因为fraud 反移民是不是牛头不对
马嘴。
就好比有超速的人 那么你就应该直接抓超速的。而不是统计一下那种人超速最多 然后重点抓哪种人。
怎么办？
投票投不过啊
没有福利票，民主党不改革就会成为永久的在野党。
不要说那些工作没有合法公民做，因为非法移民的存在那些工作的工资被压的非常地，没有了非法移民，雇主自然得涨工资，自然有合法的公民去赚那个钱了，上中产的就不用纳那么多的税养那么多的不劳动的人了。经济自然会更健康。
包括，他们的孩子上公立学校，他们去公立医院的急诊，他们去公园玩，他们和公共水池的水，他们上公共厕所，他们的车行驶在公路上，甚至他们呼吸的空气，所有的这一切都是在侵吞合法居民的利益。
那你以前还反床铺？不过知错就改就是好同志。来来来，亲一个。
请搬到怀俄明州之类的深山老林去，别去银行，别用支票，别用各种左逼创造的电子产品。
发信人: fishingarden (Edward Blum门下老王), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 加州纽约的纳税人难道就愿意为庞大福利买单？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 28 13:54:51 2016, 美东)
。。。来来来，亲一个。
你要读书啊。
老话题了，你要进步啊。
就说yardwork吧，我找的白人老美都是一副善良样狮子大开口当包工头。
实际工作都是劳模来做。
100亩右派土地经常才50万刀，便宜地很，左逼们2000尺的房子动辄80万起步。
不喜欢的人去右派土地上开荒不就得了？
左派能不能派几个认字的人来啊。
没有非移，这帮人不会降价只会继续涨价，剥削我们中产。
那个脑残居然以为没有非移会减轻负担我也是服了。
税降了，Yardwork的税后价格涨了，这有什么区别？
没有便宜劳动力，你付的钱自然增加，但是你付的税也会相应减少，因为不用为非移买单。
这很难理解吗？
降税对普通家庭能降多少？千八百的不错了。
白人老美干活一张口，4天的活能喊1万2。劳模才喊6000，老子宁愿多交3000块钱税也
不能惯这帮所谓勤奋中产。
你们富人真是有钱，那为啥还贪便宜找非移啊。
你们廊坊人难道不明白这一点吗？
你笨成这样，不也富了？
怪不得给孩子用打折diaper。
白痴能再白痴一点吗？
这些个奇葩思路我给你记下来了。
笑得这么开心，真的是蠢入膏肓。
直接说你没工作过不就得了？
否则怎么会问出这么愚蠢的问题。
蠢入膏肓的好处是你天天快乐。
去了房租跟Medicare Premium之后能用到衣食行的钱只剩下不到2百dollars了。眼看别人不用工作不用交税却可以住大屋买好吃看病甚至娱乐都不用钱，而我们这些老实工作交税的真穷人却只能除了交税就是交费，逢年过节总是照常上班或者躲在家里免得碰到熟人的小孩要给红包。你说这算是命运不公还是老实人吃亏呢？我们也不知道。都有投票权，也都去投了，但似乎是投给谁也没什么分别。反而是非法的无证人士不仅福利拿足，还可以转正，甚至仍未转正都有City ID可以用，而我们这些老实巴交的都只能任
人宰割。看我家几代人在中在美的际遇（几代人经历过 淘金 修铁路 排华 海归 抗日 大跃进 文革 再移民），似乎都是老实人吃亏啊。在这种前提下，你说我们会否支持这个福利制度呢？更何况，福利制度不就是有势力的恶人专有的优待吗？中国不也是有好几十年实行全民福利吗？可我们这些小顺民也从未能沾半点油水，反而是grandparents跟父母这两代还因为没后台没关系给整得惨了，可见福利都是给恶人跟寄生虫的，一个按劳分配的无福利社会反而似乎还更公平一些。
我的isidewith测试结果是80%同意川普，70%同意希拉里，但选举前我还是反对川普当
总统的，因为我觉得他的不确定性太高，希望我错了，走着看吧。
没有非法移民，yardwork工资会变得更高，那些白人包工头就不容易当了，很多都要自己干活了，因为雇人成本太高。
而且没有了非法移民廉价劳动力的干扰，更有利于在低端工作中形成有序的良性竞争，进入正循环，避免出现劣币驱逐良币的恶性循环。
“Turning 65 is one way you can be eligible for Medicare. You can also be
under 65 years old and still qualify for Medicare because you are receiving Social Security Disability Insurance, or SSDI. In most cases, you qualify
for Medicare due to a disability if you have been receiving SSDI checks for more than 24 months.”
可以说你父母接受medicare本身就证明了你父母就正在享受福利。而这些都是无法“用钱买的”。你必须正在接受某种社会福利才可以接受medicare.至少你也得有social
security.在纽约，非法人士无法享受绝大多数福利。medicare就是其中一个。
Medicare 联邦政策，关纽约屁事啊！
福利就是福利。联邦福利和纽约福利有什么不同么？再说了。有啥福利是完全州给的？我是想不出的了。
mall买东西多付的各种销售税是不是如果不是合法身份就不用给的？同样的，各种各样的隐性税其实只要去买你是不是合法都得交。买车买屋租房子等。都会有政府在后面拿了一部分当税金。就算是非法移民去租屋子，屋主也得把税金一部分去交税，也就是说其实非法移民也变相交了税的了。 但这些税金很大一部分转成只能给合法身份的人才
能享受的福利，比如mediaid,food stamp。你觉得这对交了税的非法移民很公平？
树熊，你要虚心啊。
第二个建议，是谷歌一下非法移民拿福利的连接，不要躲在被窝里画地图。
本上不行.
“有啥福利是完全州给的？ 我是想不出的了。“
"USDA reports that all 50 states, DC, and Puerto Rico are now using EBT
systems. The federal government pays 100 percent of SNAP/Food Stamp program benefits. Federal and State governments share administrative costs (with the federal government contributing nearly 50 percent). "
好，那下一个福利，非移子女拿州内学费算啥？这算州内不？