just got the score - impact score of 26 at the 9th percentile, no longer ESI.
asked PO and got the following reply -
"We do not have pay lines – we consider multiple factors in our administrative evaluation. We will start the evaluation of your application in the summer after the May council."
any experience? fundable? borderline?
(the initial funding was received 5 yr ago at 3rd percentile with ESI status).
【 在 FangQ (光芒之神) 的大作中提到: 】 : just got the score - impact score of 26 at the 9th percentile, no longer ESI. : asked PO and got the following reply - : "We do not have pay lines – we consider multiple factors in our : administrative evaluation. We will start the evaluation of your application : in the summer after the May council." : any experience? fundable? borderline? : (the initial funding was received 5 yr ago at 3rd percentile with ESI status : ).
Check the past funding history of NIGMS at the link below, you may get an idea. Very likely you will get it. But at this stage, it is not 100% guaranteed. https://report.nih.gov/nihdatabook/category/23
【 在 HENBEN (benben) 的大作中提到: 】 : Check the past funding history of NIGMS at the link below, you may get an : idea. Very likely you will get it. But at this stage, it is not 100% : guaranteed. : https://report.nih.gov/nihdatabook/category/23
wow, love this tool! thanks, very helpful
I wasn't aware that NIGMS has such a wide gray-zone. On the other hand, one can clearly see NCI and NIBIB have clear thresholds due to their hard cut- off policies, amazing
【 在 FangQ (光芒之神) 的大作中提到: 】 : just got the score - impact score of 26 at the 9th percentile, no longer ESI. : asked PO and got the following reply - : "We do not have pay lines – we consider multiple factors in our : administrative evaluation. We will start the evaluation of your application : in the summer after the May council." : any experience? fundable? borderline? : (the initial funding was received 5 yr ago at 3rd percentile with ESI status : ).
good to know. did you mean the total FY direct cost in the Other Support document? because this is a renewal and this grant is currently in NCE, should I use my remaining balance or ignore that grant in the total? also, does that number include any pending applications (under review)? thanks
Yes, it is about Other Support. the previous NCE and this new application should be considered as one. The total dollar amount of funded grants are considered. Say, if you have two other active R01s (modular $250K), you are okay to have a third one ($250K). But all grants would be counted including other non-NIH grants.
【 在 FangQ (光芒之神) 的大作中提到: 】 : thanks : good to know. did you mean the total FY direct cost in the Other Support : document? because this is a renewal and this grant is currently in NCE, : should I use my remaining balance or ignore that grant in the total? also, : does that number include any pending applications (under review)? : thanks
【 在 FangQ (光芒之神) 的大作中提到: 】 : thanks : good to know. did you mean the total FY direct cost in the Other Support : document? because this is a renewal and this grant is currently in NCE, : should I use my remaining balance or ignore that grant in the total? also, : does that number include any pending applications (under review)? : thanks
【 在 laghs (微小) 的大作中提到: 】 : Yes, it is about Other Support. the previous NCE and this new application : should be considered as one. The total dollar amount of funded grants are : considered. Say, if you have two other active R01s (modular $250K), you are : okay to have a third one ($250K). But all grants would be counted including : other non-NIH grants.
thanks, also thank for the link - I will run this with my pre-award admin and give an estimate.
hypothetically - if one has 3 grants A, B and C, A is the one being renewed, say the renewed grant is A'. A is currently in NCE, but with a non-zero balance - assumed to be spent down before A' starts.
if A, B, C and A' are all modular, again, hypothetically speaking - does this make it over 750k? or just within the limit?
what if there is another grant, D, that is currently under review, but don't know if it can be funded. from the link, it says "inclusive of the initial review group-recommended level for the pending application after staff cuts have been applied" - does that mean this pending one must be approved by the council meeting to be included?
just got the score - impact score of 26 at the 9th percentile, no longer ESI.
asked PO and got the following reply -
"We do not have pay lines – we consider multiple factors in our
administrative evaluation. We will start the evaluation of your application in the summer after the May council."
any experience? fundable? borderline?
(the initial funding was received 5 yr ago at 3rd percentile with ESI status).
enough
congrats!
【 在 FangQ (光芒之神) 的大作中提到: 】
: just got the score - impact score of 26 at the 9th percentile, no longer
ESI.
: asked PO and got the following reply -
: "We do not have pay lines – we consider multiple factors in our
: administrative evaluation. We will start the evaluation of your
application
: in the summer after the May council."
: any experience? fundable? borderline?
: (the initial funding was received 5 yr ago at 3rd percentile with ESI
status
: ).
Check the past funding history of NIGMS at the link below, you may get an
idea. Very likely you will get it. But at this stage, it is not 100%
guaranteed.
https://report.nih.gov/nihdatabook/category/23
【 在 HENBEN (benben) 的大作中提到: 】
: Check the past funding history of NIGMS at the link below, you may get an : idea. Very likely you will get it. But at this stage, it is not 100%
: guaranteed.
: https://report.nih.gov/nihdatabook/category/23
wow, love this tool! thanks, very helpful
I wasn't aware that NIGMS has such a wide gray-zone. On the other hand, one can clearly see NCI and NIBIB have clear thresholds due to their hard cut-
off policies, amazing
应该没问题，先祝贺了。不过要注意各种funding总钱数direct cost不要超过75万，不然NIGMS会有麻烦。NIGMS的PO从来都是这套说辞吓唬人，就算1%也是如此。
【 在 FangQ (光芒之神) 的大作中提到: 】
: just got the score - impact score of 26 at the 9th percentile, no longer
ESI.
: asked PO and got the following reply -
: "We do not have pay lines – we consider multiple factors in our
: administrative evaluation. We will start the evaluation of your
application
: in the summer after the May council."
: any experience? fundable? borderline?
: (the initial funding was received 5 yr ago at 3rd percentile with ESI
status
: ).
【 在 laghs (微小) 的大作中提到: 】
: 应该没问题，先祝贺了。
thanks
: 不过要注意各种funding总钱数direct cost不要超过75万，不
: 然NIGMS会有麻烦。NIGMS的PO从来都是这套说辞吓唬人，就算1%也是如此。
good to know. did you mean the total FY direct cost in the Other Support
document? because this is a renewal and this grant is currently in NCE,
should I use my remaining balance or ignore that grant in the total? also,
does that number include any pending applications (under review)?
thanks
Yes, it is about Other Support. the previous NCE and this new application
should be considered as one. The total dollar amount of funded grants are
considered. Say, if you have two other active R01s (modular $250K), you are okay to have a third one ($250K). But all grants would be counted including other non-NIH grants.
【 在 FangQ (光芒之神) 的大作中提到: 】
: thanks
: good to know. did you mean the total FY direct cost in the Other Support
: document? because this is a renewal and this grant is currently in NCE,
: should I use my remaining balance or ignore that grant in the total? also,
: does that number include any pending applications (under review)?
: thanks
Here is the link:
https://www.nigms.nih.gov/Research/Pages/unrestricted-support.aspx
【 在 FangQ (光芒之神) 的大作中提到: 】
: thanks
: good to know. did you mean the total FY direct cost in the Other Support
: document? because this is a renewal and this grant is currently in NCE,
: should I use my remaining balance or ignore that grant in the total? also,
: does that number include any pending applications (under review)?
: thanks
【 在 laghs (微小) 的大作中提到: 】
: Yes, it is about Other Support. the previous NCE and this new application : should be considered as one. The total dollar amount of funded grants are : considered. Say, if you have two other active R01s (modular $250K), you
are
: okay to have a third one ($250K). But all grants would be counted
including
: other non-NIH grants.
thanks, also thank for the link - I will run this with my pre-award admin
and give an estimate.
hypothetically - if one has 3 grants A, B and C, A is the one being renewed, say the renewed grant is A'. A is currently in NCE, but with a non-zero
balance - assumed to be spent down before A' starts.
if A, B, C and A' are all modular, again, hypothetically speaking - does
this make it over 750k? or just within the limit?
what if there is another grant, D, that is currently under review, but don't know if it can be funded. from the link, it says "inclusive of the initial review group-recommended level for the pending application after staff cuts have been applied" - does that mean this pending one must be approved by the council meeting to be included?