2nd visit的问题

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Nephele
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被一个学校邀请了2nd visit,但是没有提到任何offer的事情,只说让我提供想要
meeting的人的list,然后也安排了房产经纪带看房子。这怎么准备?
整个过程中没有问我要过equipment list,难道2nd visit时候谈offer?想问问大家经常有这种情况吗?
t
ttyaya

我经历过,有学校是2nd visit当场谈equipment和offer的。恭喜
N
Nephele

谢谢t老师。那这种当场谈的话,怎么去negotiate?当场敲定合同细节吗?
【 在 ttyaya (TT YaYa) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我经历过,有学校是2nd visit当场谈equipment和offer的。恭喜

F
FangQ

【 在 Nephele () 的大作中提到: 】
: 被一个学校邀请了2nd visit,但是没有提到任何offer的事情,只说让我提供想要
: meeting的人的list,然后也安排了房产经纪带看房子。这怎么准备?
: 整个过程中没有问我要过equipment list,难道2nd visit时候谈offer?想问问大家经
: 常有这种情况吗?

you will be asked (if everything else works out). be prepared. also lab
space needs.

last year, one of our new recruits (who happened to be a former colleague of mine) was asked to give a 2nd chalk talk during his 2nd visit - the
committee was divided and not convinced to give an offer yet (in the end, he got the position). But from what you said, it sounds like the committee has already recommended to move forward.
N
Nephele

我倒不需要再给talk,只需要面dean和第一次没有见到的faculty。只不过我遇到的大
部分情况都是在2nd visit之前先要好equipment list,这样在你2nd visit的时候他们就可以拿出来可以offer你的东西,这样才会接下去negotiation。
【 在 FangQ (光芒之神) 的大作中提到: 】
: you will be asked (if everything else works out). be prepared. also lab
: space needs.
: last year, one of our new recruits (who happened to be a former colleague of
: mine) was asked to give a 2nd chalk talk during his 2nd visit - the
: committee was divided and not convinced to give an offer yet (in the end, he
: got the position). But from what you said, it sounds like the committee
has
: already recommended to move forward.

F
FangQ

【 在 Nephele () 的大作中提到: 】
: 谢谢t老师。那这种当场谈的话,怎么去negotiate?当场敲定合同细节吗?

they just need a ballpark - do you need a start-up package ~half M? 1M, or
more?

to give that estimate, you have to prepare a few big-ticking items to backup your numbers. again, final numbers can be negotiated, but they need to know if they can afford you or not.

if you have a ballpark of your min/desired salary, also prepare it (with
some sort of justifications), they may or may not ask.
t
ttyaya

我准备了equipment list,系主任当场给了offer, 但是不需要敲定,你就说需要回去
考虑考虑就好了

【 在 Nephele () 的大作中提到: 】
: 谢谢t老师。那这种当场谈的话,怎么去negotiate?当场敲定合同细节吗?
N
Nephele

还想问问t老师,遇到过只要一个opening但是2nd visit邀请几个人的情况吗?还是一
般都是一个人?
【 在 ttyaya (TT YaYa) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我准备了equipment list,系主任当场给了offer, 但是不需要敲定,你就说需要回去
: 考虑考虑就好了

N
Nephele

谢谢,我已经准备好了equipment list,只不过on site的几个学校都没有要,觉得非
常诡异。
【 在 FangQ (光芒之神) 的大作中提到: 】
: they just need a ballpark - do you need a start-up package ~half M? 1M, or
: more?
: to give that estimate, you have to prepare a few big-ticking items to
backup
: your numbers. again, final numbers can be negotiated, but they need to
know
: if they can afford you or not.
: if you have a ballpark of your min/desired salary, also prepare it (with
: some sort of justifications), they may or may not ask.

M
Microbiome

我遇到过second visit邀请两个人的,一般都是一个人,但不能百分百确定。
【 在 Nephele () 的大作中提到: 】
: 还想问问t老师,遇到过只要一个opening但是2nd visit邀请几个人的情况吗?还是一
: 般都是一个人?