发信人: chemist2012 (chemist2012), 信区: Boston 标 题: 续 boston suburb 买房 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 2 13:09:45 2017, 美东)
2个月前发过个贴，真的谢谢大家提供的意见，一切都finalize了 最后决定为了孩子还是从LA搬去波士顿了。 工作在kendall square那里，不知道买去burlington如何？ -------------------------- --------------------------- ------------------------------------- 伊州: (人口: 12,875,255) -------------- National University (Total: 14,190)
University of Chicago 5,590 Northwestern University 8,600
---------------- IL: Northwestern + U of Chicago .. 55/m ~ 62/m ---------------- ==================================================== 2012 Population Asian Illinois: 12,875,255 5.0% Massachusetts 6,646,144 5.8% ------------ http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/17000.html =================================================
马州: (人口: 6,646,144) ---------- National University (Total: 60,527)
Harvard University 6,658 #2 MIT 4,503 #5 Tufts University 5,255 #29 (37.12/m) Boston College 9,110 #32 (77.72/m) Brandeis University 3,588 #34 Boston University 18,306 #37 Northeastern University 13,107 #40 ------------------------------------------- (3) BC -------- MA (513/6.6m = 77.72/m) IL (59/12.9m = 4.57/m)
发信人: xxx, 信区: Chicago 标 题: Perfect scores on ACT 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon May 18 11:56:18 2015, 美东)
29 students from Naperville 203's 2 high schools scored a 36 on the ACT thisyear. That's more than 2% of those who got a perfect score in the whole country. It's an amazing achievement. And more than half of the 29 are Chinese. Even though it's still a long way to go for them to get what they deserve in college admissions, there's no doubt that Naperville is one of the clusters of the top Chinese students.
Several IPSD 204 students also scored a 36.
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发信人: xxxx, 信区: Chicago 标 题: Re: Perfect scores on ACT 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 20 01:26:20 2015, 美东)
** 麻州孩子何德何能, 有 N 倍(67,000-74,000/6.6m -- 14,000/12.9m) 伊州孩子的 机会.仅是因为他 们住在麻州.
** 大陆北京的孩子有更多的机会进入清大, 仅是因为他们住在北京.
** 兄弟们，这, TMD, 9是社会 **
--------------------------- 前50 National University 私校 和 前50 Liberal Arts College on USNEWS http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges -------------------------- 马州: (人口: 6,646,144) ---------- National University (Total: 60,527)
Harvard University 6,658 #2 (2017) MIT 4,503 #5 (2017) Tufts University 5,255 #29 Boston College 9,110 #32 Brandeis University 3,588 #34 Boston University 18,306 #37 Northeastern University 13,107 #40 ------------------------------------- Liberal Arts College (coed) (Total: 6795)
Williams College 2,052 Amherst College 1,817 College of the Holy Cross 2,926 ------------------------------------- Liberal Arts College for women (Total: 7467)
Wellesley College 2,481 Smith College 2,664 Mount Holyoke College 2,322 ------------------------------------- 伊州: (人口: 12,875,255) -------------- National University (Total: 14,190)
University of Chicago 5,590 Northwestern University 8,600 ---------------- 前50 Liberal Arts College (无) ==================================================== 2012 Population Asian Illinois: 12,875,255 5.0% Massachusetts 6,646,144 5.8% ------------ http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/17000.html ==================================================== (1) Williams College: ---------------------- In the fall of 2011, Entire Undergraduate population by Residence
Massachusetts 56 (56/6m = 9 per m) Illinois 15 (15/12m = 1.2 per m) https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/445948 ------------------------------------------- (3) BC -------- MA (513/6.6m = 77.72/m) IL (59/12.9m = 4.57/m)
【 在 malaichua (Madelai) 的大作中提到: 】 : 有没有Northwestern / U of Chicago的数据?
----------------
**Northwestern**
The number of freshmen enrolled is expected to be slightly above the University's target of 1,981 students when final numbers become available this month, Mills said.
Illinois residents represent 25 percent of enrolled students, the largest group from areas around the country; another 18 percent come from Midwest states. Other sections of the country represented in the freshman class are Middle States, 17 percent; West, 14 percent; South, 10 percent; New England, 5 percent; and Southwest, 5 percent. Six percent of the class is from overseas. ----
Northwestern + U of Chicago < 500 + 400 = 70/m ------
马州: (人口: 6,646,144) ---------- National University (Total: 60,527)
Harvard University 6,658 #2 MIT 4,503 #5 Tufts University 5,255 #29 (37.12/m) Boston College 9,110 #32 (77.72/m) Brandeis University 3,588 #34 Boston University 18,306 #37 Northeastern University 13,107 #40
------------------------------------------- (3) BC -------- MA (513/6.6m = 77.72/m)
==================================================== Harvard University 6,658 #2 MIT 4,503 #5 Tufts University 5,255 #29 (37.12/m) Boston College 9,110 #32 (77.72/m) Brandeis University 3,588 #34 Boston University 18,306 #37 (93-113/m .. 估计) Northeastern University 13,107 #40 (76-93/m ..估计) ------------------------------------------------- (3) BC #29 513(MA)/2359(Total) = 21,74% -------- MA (513/6.6m = 77.72/m) IL (59/12.9m = 4.57/m)
【 在 malaichua (Madelai) 的大作中提到: 】 : 有没有Northwestern / U of Chicago的数据? ---------------- **Northwestern**
The number of freshmen enrolled is expected to be slightly above the University's target of 1,981 students when final numbers become available this month, Mills said.
Illinois residents represent 25 percent of enrolled students, the largest group from areas around the country; another 18 percent come from Midwest states. Other sections of the country represented in the freshman class are Middle States, 17 percent; West, 14 percent; South, 10 percent; New England, 5 percent; and Southwest, 5 percent. Six percent of the class is from overseas. ---- 1,981 X 25% = 495 http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2007/10/admission.html ---------------- *** U of Chicago ***
"Illinois residents represent 25 percent of enrolled students, the largest group from areas around the country; another 18 percent come from Midwest states."
伊利诺伊州是整个中西部地区的 25/(25 + 18) = 58% ~ 60% ------------ U of Chicago: 估计 50-70% of 430 ...215 ~ 301 ====================== Northwestern + U of Chicago < 500 + (215 ~ 301) = 715 ~ 801
#1 Tsinghua University #2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology #3 University of California--Berkeley #4 National University of Singapore #5 Zhejiang University #6 Nanyang Technological University #7 Harbin Institute of Technology #8 Stanford University #9 Shanghai Jiao Tong University #10 Georgia Institute of Technology
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】 : 要是傻乎乎地相信表面数据，那搞工程的都可以回天朝了，呵呵。回去也确实是一个不 : 错的选择。 : Best Global Universities for Engineering : https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/engineering : #1 Tsinghua University : #2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology : #3 University of California--Berkeley : #4 National University of Singapore : #5 Zhejiang University : #6 Nanyang Technological University : ...................
Would you shu up. i graduated from UIUC, I am very proud of it, and I don’t think that ranking matters a little bit. If you do not like UIUC, just do not let your kid apply. we do NOT care.
麻州孩子何德何能, 有 N 倍伊州孩子的机会进入 top 50;
仅是因为他们住在麻州.
大陆北京的孩子有更多的机会进入清大, 仅是因为他们住在北京.
世界上，有公平的地方马？
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不管是什麼原因，從芝加哥遷移到波士頓後，孩子們有更多的機會去top 私校
破死刀, 矽工, 軟工, 生物工, 化學工 記帳工任何地方是一樣的.
孩子機會不一樣
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发信人: chemist2012 (chemist2012), 信区: Boston
标 题: 续 boston suburb 买房
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 2 13:09:45 2017, 美东)
2个月前发过个贴，真的谢谢大家提供的意见，一切都finalize了 最后决定为了孩子还是从LA搬去波士顿了。 工作在kendall square那里，不知道买去burlington如何？
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伊州: (人口: 12,875,255)
--------------
National University (Total: 14,190)
University of Chicago 5,590
Northwestern University 8,600
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IL: Northwestern + U of Chicago .. 55/m ~ 62/m
----------------
====================================================
2012 Population Asian
Illinois: 12,875,255 5.0%
Massachusetts 6,646,144 5.8%
------------ http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/17000.html
=================================================
====================================================
马州: (人口: 6,646,144)
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National University (Total: 60,527)
Harvard University 6,658 #2
MIT 4,503 #5
Tufts University 5,255 #29 (37.12/m)
Boston College 9,110 #32 (77.72/m)
Brandeis University 3,588 #34
Boston University 18,306 #37
Northeastern University 13,107 #40
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(3) BC
--------
MA (513/6.6m = 77.72/m)
IL (59/12.9m = 4.57/m)
class of 2020
pg 35 on
http://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/publications/factbook/pdf/16_17/16-17_factbook.pdf
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(4) Tufts
----------
MA (245/6.6m = 37.12/m)
IL (39/12.9m = 3.02/m)
class of 2020
http://admissions.tufts.edu/apply/enrolled-student-profile/
标 题: 续 boston suburb 买房
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 2 13:09:45 2017, 美东)
2个月前发过个贴，真的谢谢大家提供的意见，一切都finalize了 最后决定为了孩子还是从LA搬去波士顿了。 工作在kendall square那里，不知道买去burlington如何？
都吠了三年半了还不搬，到底想干啥？
我的一個朋友告訴我，在中國大陸，他不能投票選舉，在美國，他可以投票但是太忙
了，沒有時間去投票。
他告訴我，如果他住在北京，他統考成績, 他可以去清大, 但他住在另一個省，他不得不去夏大.
幾年後，如果住在波士頓，他的兒子可能會去麻省理工或者哈佛，
但是，他不想動, 也許，他的兒子可能會去UIUC.
生活中有太多無奈 .
麻州集中了一大堆教授，高科技人才，你的孩子过去了智商也拼不过别人家的孩子。还不如住在伊州，安慰一下自己，孩子上不了名校是因为住的地方不好，不是因为基因不行。
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 生活中有許多無奈 ...
: 我的一個朋友告訴我，在中國大陸，他不能投票選舉，在美國，他可以投票但是太忙: 了，沒有時間去投票。
: 他告訴我，如果他住在北京，他統考成績, 他可以去清大, 但他住在另一個省，他不得
: 不去夏大.
: 幾年後，如果住在波士頓，他的兒子可能會去麻省理工或者哈佛，
: 但是，他不想動, 也許，他的兒子可能會去UIUC.
: 生活中有太多無奈 .
发信人: gogo2004 (挑灯看剑), 信区: Military
标 题: 美國de “高考洼地”在哪裡 ?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jun 13 13:27:55 2014, 美东)
: 首都师范大学教育学院副教授王寰安认为，当前不同省份教育资源和高考录取差
: 距较大，像山东、江苏等“高考分数高地”，即使全面放开异地高考，也不用担心高考
: 移民；而对于西部地区、北京、上海等“高考分数洼地”，一旦全面放开异地高考，势
: 必造成教育秩序的混乱。
http://finance.sina.com.cn/roll/20140605/063019318322.shtml
: -------------------------------------------
伊利諾伊州是"高地" 還是 “洼地”??
美國de “高考洼地”在哪裡 ? 馬薩諸塞州 ?
: 明白了，就是一个卢瑟在恶心其他的卢瑟。
: 麻州集中了一大堆教授，高科技人才，你的孩子过去了智商也拼不过别人家的孩子。还
: 不如住在伊州，安慰一下自己，孩子上不了名校是因为住的地方不好，不是因为基因不
: 行。
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发信人: wodemj (wodemj), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Re: 美國de “高考洼地”在哪裡 ? (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jun 18 16:45:48 2014, 美东)
充分说明，人生机遇远比能力更重要。绝大多数权力和地位都来自于你做到那个位置，获得那个机会，而不是你个人有多牛b.
无数跟着zuckerberg，马云，马化滕创业的，虽然资质平庸，都成了亿万富翁。当年长征两三万人的队伍，走出了几百个闪耀的将星。朱元璋领导淮右几个村的人才就打下了天下。刘邦一多半重臣都是沛县一个县出来的。
Duke #9
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
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发信人: gogo2004 (挑灯看剑), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Re: 美國de “高考洼地”在哪裡 ? (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jun 25 22:40:42 2014, 美东)
Population (m) | Duke(2014-17) | Upenn(2017)
------------------------------------------------
Massachusetts 6.7 | 181(27.0/m) | 85(12.9/m)
Connecticut 3.6 | 170(47.2/m) | 67(18.6/m)
New Jersey 8.9 | 368(41.3/m) | 221(24.8/m)
Maryland 5.9 | 203(34.4/m) | 78(13.2/m)
New York 19.6 | 582(29.7/m) | 299(15.3/m)
Pennsylvania 12.8 | 254(19.8/m) | 381(29.8/m)
Virginia 8.2 | 277(33.8/m) | 57(7.0/m)
North Carolina 9.8 | 800(81.6/m) | 28(2.9/m)
South Carolina 4.8 | 130(27.1/m) | 12(2.5/m)
Georgia 10.0 | 234(23.4/m) | 34(3.4/m)
Florida 19.6 | 504(25.7/m) | 104(5.3/m)
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Illinois 12.9 | 166(12.9/m) | 69(5.3/m)
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我們可以看出，Duke and Upenn 像其他的私立大學，招收更多的本州學生.
如果您遷移到馬薩諸塞州，你的孩子有更多的機會去在馬薩諸塞州頂尖大學,
還比在IL孩子多的機會去Duke and Upenn.
http://admissions.duke.edu/images/uploads/process/DukeClass2017Profile.pdf
http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/incoming-class-profile
如果家里是男孩子，送去UIUC起码容易找到女朋友
还是挺大的一个优势的
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: -------------------------
: 麻州孩子何德何能, 有7, 8倍伊州孩子的机会进入.....
: 仅是因为他们住在麻州.
: 大陆北京的孩子有更多的机会进入清大, 仅是因为他们住在北京.
: 世界上，有公平的地方马？
: --------------------------
: 不管是什麼原因，從芝加哥遷移到波士頓後，孩子們有更多的機會去top 私校
: 破死刀, 矽工, 軟工, 生物工, 化學工 記帳工任何地方是一樣的.
: 孩子機會不一樣
: =======
: ...................
: ----------
: 发信人: wodemj (wodemj), 信区: WaterWorld
: 标 题: Re: 美國de “高考洼地”在哪裡 ? (转载)
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jun 18 16:45:48 2014, 美东)
: 充分说明，人生机遇远比能力更重要。绝大多数权力和地位都来自于你做到那个位置，
: 获得那个机会，而不是你个人有多牛b.
: 无数跟着zuckerberg，马云，马化滕创业的，虽然资质平庸，都成了亿万富翁。当年长
: 征两三万人的队伍，走出了几百个闪耀的将星。朱元璋领导淮右几个村的人才就打下了
: 天下。刘邦一多半重臣都是沛县一个县出来的。
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发信人: xxx, 信区: Chicago
标 题: Perfect scores on ACT
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon May 18 11:56:18 2015, 美东)
29 students from Naperville 203's 2 high schools scored a 36 on the ACT
thisyear. That's more than 2% of those who got a perfect score in the whole country. It's an amazing achievement. And more than half of the 29 are
Chinese. Even though it's still a long way to go for them to get what they
deserve in college admissions, there's no doubt that Naperville is one of
the clusters of the top Chinese students.
Several IPSD 204 students also scored a 36.
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发信人: xxxx, 信区: Chicago
标 题: Re: Perfect scores on ACT
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 20 01:26:20 2015, 美东)
这难道不是悲剧吗？这些满分孩子的一部分，最后只能去香槟这样的学校。换其它地方都进藤校了。
有的州里mathcount个人前10名的，都进不了肯尼迪校队，只能以个人名义参赛。
reported to Stevenson High School by the American College Testing program.
class of 2018
31 students ...
15 of 31 are Chinese:
Cao
Hwang
Li
Luo
Qian
Shen
Tan
Tao
Wang
Xiao
Xu
Xue
Yu
Yu
Zhu
http://www.d125.org/academic/perfect-act-score
"发信人: xxxx, 信区: Chicago
标 题: Re: Perfect scores on ACT
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed May 20 01:26:20 2015, 美东)
这难道不是悲剧吗？这些满分孩子的一部分，最后只能去香槟这样的学校。换其它地方都进藤校了。"
-------------------------
But exactly how many students earned a 33, 34, 35, or 36 in 2017? Which
score is the rarest?
Score Number of Students Percentage of All Test Takers
36 2,760 0.136%
35 12,386 0.610%
34 20,499 1.010%
20 of 43 are Chinese
Cao
Cao
Chen
Chin
Dai
Hwang
Liang
Lu
Luo
Pao
Pao
Shi
Su
Tao
Wang
Wang
Xiao
Xu
Xue
Yu
http://www.d125.org/quicklinks/news/2017/09/13/43-seniors-named-national-merit-semifinalists
"这难道不是悲剧吗？这些....孩子的一部分，最后只能去香槟这样的学校。换其它地方
都进藤校了。"
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"Semifinalists are the highest-scoring program entrants in each state and
represent the top 0.5% percent of the state’s senior students."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Merit_Scholarship_Program
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: ----------------
: 发信人: gogo2004 (挑灯看剑), 信区: WaterWorld
: 标 题: Re: 美国de “高考洼地”在哪里 ? (转载)
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jun 25 22:40:42 2014, 美东)
: Population (m) | Duke(2014-17) | Upenn(2017)
: ------------------------------------------------
: Massachusetts 6.7 | 181(27.0/m) | 85(12.9/m)
: Connecticut 3.6 | 170(47.2/m) | 67(18.6/m)
: New Jersey 8.9 | 368(41.3/m) | 221(24.8/m)
: Maryland 5.9 | 203(34.4/m) | 78(13.2/m)
: ...................
score is the rarest?
Score Number of Students Percentage of All Test Takers
36 2,760 0.136%
35 12,386 0.610%
34 20,499 1.010%
-------------------
"Semifinalists are the highest-scoring program entrants in each state and
represent the top 0.5% percent of the state’s senior students."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Merit_Scholarship_Program
: 有没有Northwestern / U of Chicago的数据?
*** U of Chicago ***
Midwest 27% .... 1591 * 27% ~ 430
UC 录取 n students from IL (n < 430)
IL: n/12.9m < 430/12.9m = 33/m
https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/page/profile-class-2020
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Population (m) | Duke(2014-17) | Upenn(2017)
------------------------------------------------
Pennsylvania 12.8 | ***** | 381(29.8/m)
North Carolina 9.8 |800(81.6/m)..81.6/4 = 20.4/m | 28(2.9/m)
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Upenn(Class of 2020)
PA 446 446/12.8m = 34.84/m
IL 59 59/12.9m = 4.57/m
MA 68 68/6.7m = 10.15/m
http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/whatpennlooksfor/incoming-class-profile
Population (m) | Duke(2014-17) | Upenn(2017)
------------------------------------------------
Pennsylvania 12.8 | ***** | 381(29.8/m)
North Carolina 9.8 |800(81.6/m)..81.6/4 = 20.4/m | 28(2.9/m)
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Upenn #8
Duke #9
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
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Upenn(Class of 2020)
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PA 446 446/12.8m = 34.84/m
IL 59 59/12.9m = 4.57/m
MA 68 68/6.7m = 10.15/m
http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/whatpennlooksfor/incoming-class-profile
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Duke
CLASS OF 2019
North Carolina ......214 .............. 214/9.8m = 21.83/m
New York ...............163
California ..............142
Florida ...................132
New Jersey.............104
Texas...................... 102
Virginia....................79
Georgia....................62
Pennsylvania...........59
Maryland ................. 47
Connecticut .............. 42
Illinois.......................36 ........... 36/12.9m = 2.79/m
Colorado................... 33
South Carolina.......... 31
Massachusetts...........29 ..................... 29/6.7m = 4.33/m
Ohio.......................... 23
Washington............... 22
Michigan .................. 18
Arizona ..................... 16
Minnesota................. 14
Tennessee................. 13
Wisconsin.................. 12
Missouri .................... 10
Oklahoma ................. 10
Oregon ..................... 10
Alabama ..................... 7
Kansas ........................ 7
Kentucky ..................... 7
Utah ............................ 7
Arkansas..................... 6
Indiana ....................... 6
New Hampshire .......... 6
New Mexico................ 6
Nevada ....................... 6
Alaska ......................... 5
Delaware..................... 5
Hawaii......................... 5
Washington, D.C......... 4
Maine ......................... 4
Nebraska..................... 4
Rhode Island............... 4
Vermont....................... 3
Idaho .......................... 2
Louisiana .................... 2
Puerto Rico ................. 2
West Virginia............... 2
Wyoming..................... 2
Iowa ............................ 1
Mississippi .................. 1
Montana...................... 1
North Dakota............... 0
South Dakota .............. 0
Guam.......................... 0
Virgin Islands.............. 0
http://admissions.duke.edu/images/uploads/process/DukeClass2019Profile.pdf
CLASS OF 2020
North Carolina ..... 208
California ..............168
New York ...............153
Florida ...................128
Texas........................96
Virginia.................... 81
New Jersey...............80
Maryland .................58
Pennsylvania...........56
Georgia.................... 47
Ohio.......................... 42
Illinois.......................39
South Carolina.......... 37
Massachusetts........... 35
Connecticut.............. 33
Arizona ..................... 27
Washington............... 22
Colorado...................20
Tennessee................. 16
Michigan .................. 15
Missouri .................... 12
Oklahoma ................. 12
Kansas ...................... 11
Minnesota................. 11
Louisiana .................. 10
Nebraska..................... 8
Wisconsin.................... 8
Kentucky ..................... 7
Alabama ..................... 6
Delaware..................... 6
Hawaii......................... 6
Indiana ....................... 6
Nevada ....................... 6
Washington, D.C......... 6
Arkansas..................... 5
New Hampshire .......... 5
Mississippi .................. 3
Montana...................... 3
Idaho .......................... 2
Iowa ............................ 2
Maine ......................... 2
New Mexico................ 2
Oregon ....................... 2
Puerto Rico ................. 2
Rhode Island............... 2
Utah ............................ 2
Vermont....................... 2
Alaska ......................... 1
North Dakota............... 1
West Virginia............... 1
Wyoming..................... 1
South Dakota .............. 0
Guam.......................... 0
Virgin Islands.............. 0
http://admissions.duke.edu/images/uploads/process/ClassProfile2020web.pdf
Class of 2020
PA 446 446/12.8m = 34.84/m
IL 59 59/12.9m = 4.57/m
MA 68 68/6.7m = 10.15/m
** 麻州孩子何德何能, 有 N 倍(67,000-74,000/6.6m -- 14,000/12.9m) 伊州孩子的
机会.仅是因为他
们住在麻州.
** 大陆北京的孩子有更多的机会进入清大, 仅是因为他们住在北京.
** 兄弟们，这, TMD, 9是社会 **
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前50 National University 私校 和 前50 Liberal Arts College on USNEWS
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges
--------------------------
马州: (人口: 6,646,144)
----------
National University (Total: 60,527)
Harvard University 6,658 #2 (2017)
MIT 4,503 #5 (2017)
Tufts University 5,255 #29
Boston College 9,110 #32
Brandeis University 3,588 #34
Boston University 18,306 #37
Northeastern University 13,107 #40
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Liberal Arts College (coed) (Total: 6795)
Williams College 2,052
Amherst College 1,817
College of the Holy Cross 2,926
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Liberal Arts College for women (Total: 7467)
Wellesley College 2,481
Smith College 2,664
Mount Holyoke College 2,322
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伊州: (人口: 12,875,255)
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National University (Total: 14,190)
University of Chicago 5,590
Northwestern University 8,600
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前50 Liberal Arts College (无)
====================================================
2012 Population Asian
Illinois: 12,875,255 5.0%
Massachusetts 6,646,144 5.8%
------------ http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/17000.html
====================================================
(1) Williams College:
----------------------
In the fall of 2011, Entire Undergraduate population by Residence
MA: 265 (265/6 m = 44 per m)
IL: 78 (78/12 m = 6.5 per m)
http://admission.williams.edu/files/2010/01/2015-Profile3.pdf
----------------------------
(2) Amherst
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First-Year Students in the Class of 2016
Massachusetts 56 (56/6m = 9 per m)
Illinois 15 (15/12m = 1.2 per m)
https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/445948
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(3) BC
--------
MA (513/6.6m = 77.72/m)
IL (59/12.9m = 4.57/m)
class of 2020
pg 35 on
http://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/publications/factbook/pdf/16_17/16-17_factbook.pdf
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(4) Tufts
----------
MA (245/6.6m = 37.12/m)
IL (39/12.9m = 3.02/m)
class of 2020
http://admissions.tufts.edu/apply/enrolled-student-profile/
: 有没有Northwestern / U of Chicago的数据?
----------------
**Northwestern**
The number of freshmen enrolled is expected to be slightly above the
University's target of 1,981 students when final numbers become available
this month, Mills said.
Illinois residents represent 25 percent of enrolled students, the largest
group from areas around the country; another 18 percent come from Midwest
states. Other sections of the country represented in the freshman class are Middle States, 17 percent; West, 14 percent; South, 10 percent; New England, 5 percent; and Southwest, 5 percent. Six percent of the class is from
overseas.
----
1,981 X 25% = 495 ... 38.37/m
http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2007/10/admission.html
----------------
*** U of Chicago ***
Midwest 27% .... 1591 * 27% ~ 430
UC 录取 n students from IL (n < 430)
IL: n/12.9m < 430/12.9m = 33/m
https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/page/profile-class-2020
----------------
Northwestern + U of Chicago < 500 + 400 = 900
900/12.9m = 70/m Il ..Il ..IL
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感觉楼主说的都是超级名校，如果你的小娃真的是超级优秀，麻州的确进入顶级名校的机会大很多。
但是如果你的娃就是中等，在别的州，比如IL，可以进很好的公立大学；在麻州，就是UMass-Amherst或者家长掏一大笔钱到外州去一个普通学校。
最后说不定，IL的一个中国娃，压力小的长大，进了UIUC，家长掏州内学费；麻州的一个中国娃，一路压力超级大的长大（我们town的高中，最近几年每年都有学生自杀的），最后家长掏外州学费去UIUC。
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: -------------------------
: 麻州孩子何德何能, 有 N 倍伊州孩子的机会进入 top 50;
: 仅是因为他们住在麻州.
: 大陆北京的孩子有更多的机会进入清大, 仅是因为他们住在北京.
: 世界上，有公平的地方马？
: --------------------------
: 不管是什麼原因，從芝加哥遷移到波士頓後，孩子們有更多的機會去top 私校
: 破死刀, 矽工, 軟工, 生物工, 化學工 記帳工任何地方是一樣的.
: 孩子機會不一樣
: =======
: ...................
: 我现在就在麻州
: 感觉楼主说的都是超级名校，
楼主说的是 top 50.
最终, 听到来自MA声音
我们需要可以校验的数据, 而不是故事,
"只要你抗得住每天一个小时的commute和million dollar的房子就行。"
请不要谈论汽车交通和房价, 为了孩子的机会，中国父母可以忍受 这些事情.
是否有任何其他的声音 from MA ??
: 如果你的小娃真的是超级优秀，麻州的确进入顶级名校的机会大很多。
: 但是如果你的娃就是中等，在别的州，比如IL，可以进很好的公立大学；在麻州，就是
: UMass-Amherst或者家长掏一大笔钱到外州去一个普通学校。
: 最后说不定，IL的一个中国娃，压力小的长大，进了UIUC，家长掏州内学费；麻州的一
: 个中国娃，一路压力超级大的长大（我们town的高中，最近几年每年都有学生自杀的）
: ，最后家长掏外州学费去UIUC。
: top 50.
: 最终, 听到来自MA声音
: 我们需要可以校验的数据, 而不是故事,
"只要你抗得住每天一个小时的commute和million dollar的房子就行。"
请不要谈论汽车交通和房价, 为了孩子的机会，中国父母可以忍受 这些事情.
是否有任何其他的声音 from MA ??
**Northwestern**
IL: < 500/12.9m = 38.76/m
*** U of Chicago ***
430: midwest
IL: < 400/12.9m
----------------
Northwestern + U of Chicago < 500 + 400 = 70/m
------
马州: (人口: 6,646,144)
----------
National University (Total: 60,527)
Harvard University 6,658 #2
MIT 4,503 #5
Tufts University 5,255 #29 (37.12/m)
Boston College 9,110 #32 (77.72/m)
Brandeis University 3,588 #34
Boston University 18,306 #37
Northeastern University 13,107 #40
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(3) BC
--------
MA (513/6.6m = 77.72/m)
class of 2020
pg 35 on
http://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/publications/factbook/pdf/16_17/16-17_factbook.pdf
-----------------------------------------
(4) Tufts
----------
MA (245/6.6m = 37.12/m)
class of 2020
http://admissions.tufts.edu/apply/enrolled-student-profile/
Harvard University 6,658 #2
MIT 4,503 #5
Tufts University 5,255 #29 (37.12/m)
Boston College 9,110 #32 (77.72/m)
Brandeis University 3,588 #34
Boston University 18,306 #37 (93-113/m .. 估计)
Northeastern University 13,107 #40 (76-93/m ..估计)
-------------------------------------------------
(3) BC #29 513(MA)/2359(Total) = 21,74%
--------
MA (513/6.6m = 77.72/m)
IL (59/12.9m = 4.57/m)
class of 2020
pg 35 on
http://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/publications/factbook/pdf/16_17/16-17_factbook.pdf
-----------------------------------------
(4) Tufts 245(MA)/1340(Total) = 18.28%
----------
MA (245/6.6m = 37.12/m)
IL (39/12.9m = 3.02/m)
class of 2020
http://admissions.tufts.edu/apply/enrolled-student-profile/
---------------------------------------------------------------
Boston University 18,306 #37
---------------------
Total Freshmen:3,400.
使用22％作为估计.. MA:3400 x 22% = 748/6.6m = 113/m
使用18％作为估计.. MA:3400 x 18% = 612/6.6m = 93/m
https://www.bu.edu/admissions/about-bu/profile/
Northeastern University 13,107 #40
--------------
Total Freshmen:2,797
使用22％作为估计.. 2,797 x 22％ = 615 / 6.6m = 93/m
使用18％作为估计.. 2,797 x 18％ = 503 / 6.6m = 76/m
For the Class of 2019 (enrolling fall 2015), Northeastern received 50,523
applications (more than in any previous year[24]), accepted 14,388 (28.5%), and enrolled 2,797
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_University#Admissions
: 有没有Northwestern / U of Chicago的数据?
----------------
**Northwestern**
The number of freshmen enrolled is expected to be slightly above the
University's target of 1,981 students when final numbers become available
this month, Mills said.
Illinois residents represent 25 percent of enrolled students, the largest
group from areas around the country; another 18 percent come from Midwest
states. Other sections of the country represented in the freshman class are Middle States, 17 percent; West, 14 percent; South, 10 percent; New England, 5 percent; and Southwest, 5 percent. Six percent of the class is from
overseas.
----
1,981 X 25% = 495
http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2007/10/admission.html
----------------
*** U of Chicago ***
Midwest 27% .... 1591 * 27% ~ 430
https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/page/profile-class-2020
----------------
Northwestern
"Illinois residents represent 25 percent of enrolled students, the largest
group from areas around the country; another 18 percent come from Midwest
states."
伊利诺伊州是整个中西部地区的 25/(25 + 18) = 58% ~ 60%
------------
U of Chicago: 估计 50-70% of 430 ...215 ~ 301
======================
Northwestern + U of Chicago < 500 + (215 ~ 301) = 715 ~ 801
(715 ~ 801)/12.9m = 55/m ~ 62/m
------
MAX: 90% x 430 = 387
500 + 387 = 887/12.9m = 69/m
US News排名方式，公立大学比私立大学吃亏。给小孩选学校，不能就这么看一个排名。
麻省和Illinois最好的大学比较，就是Harvard, MIT vs U Chicago, Northwestern。
麻省确实要强一些。
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】
: Tufts, BC, BU, Brandeis, Northeastern这几个学校，真实的实力和名气都比UIUC
，U
: Michigan，U Wisconsin这样的老牌公立强校要差一些。
: US News排名方式，公立大学比私立大学吃亏。给小孩选学校，不能就这么看一个排
名。
: 麻省和Illinois最好的大学比较，就是Harvard, MIT vs U Chicago, Northwestern。
: 麻省确实要强一些。
Best Global Universities for Engineeringhttps://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/engineering
#1 Tsinghua University
#2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
#3 University of California--Berkeley
#4 National University of Singapore
#5 Zhejiang University
#6 Nanyang Technological University
#7 Harbin Institute of Technology
#8 Stanford University
#9 Shanghai Jiao Tong University
#10 Georgia Institute of Technology
【 在 digua (姚之FAN) 的大作中提到: 】
: 要是傻乎乎地相信表面数据，那搞工程的都可以回天朝了，呵呵。回去也确实是一个不
: 错的选择。
: Best Global Universities for Engineering
: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/engineering
: #1 Tsinghua University
: #2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
: #3 University of California--Berkeley
: #4 National University of Singapore
: #5 Zhejiang University
: #6 Nanyang Technological University
: ...................
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 楼主说的是 top 50.
: 最终, 听到来自MA声音
: 我们需要可以校验的数据, 而不是故事,
: "只要你抗得住每天一个小时的commute和million dollar的房子就行。"
: 请不要谈论汽车交通和房价, 为了孩子的机会，中国父母可以忍受 这些事情.
: 是否有任何其他的声音 from MA ??
: 我在麻州住过，
我在麻州住过 too.
:我还真不信你能忍受得了波士顿的交通和房价。有本事用事实说话，别
: 瞎吹牛B。
Nothing personal. haha ...
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我在麻州住过 too.
: :我还真不信你能忍受得了波士顿的交通和房价。有本事用事实说话，别
: Nothing personal. haha ...
: 事实证明你受不了，不过你可能不承认，找些别的借口，别人也拿你没招。
"为了孩子的机会，中国父母可以忍受 这些事情."
以上是一般话题. 我只提供数据，实际上数据在互联网上，我只是收集他们。
让人们决定是否去波士顿。
我知道芝加哥的几个博士后, 阅读我的帖子后去了波士顿.
几个博士后有能力想去哪就去哪的话，那还用博士后吗？这个肯定是死无对证的。
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: "为了孩子的机会，中国父母可以忍受 这些事情."
: 以上是一般话题. 我只提供数据，实际上数据在互联网上，我只是收集他们。
: 让人们决定是否去波士顿。
: 我知道芝加哥的几个博士后, 阅读我的帖子后去了波士顿.
not let your kid apply. we do NOT care.
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: "为了孩子的机会，中国父母可以忍受 这些事情."
: 以上是一般话题. 我只提供数据，实际上数据在互联网上，我只是收集他们。
: 让人们决定是否去波士顿。
: 我知道芝加哥的几个博士后, 阅读我的帖子后去了波士顿.
: 现在是机器人和大数据的时代，呵呵。
------------------
对.
之前，中国父母喜欢道听途说 ... 什么大学全国平等录取, 什么"学区房" ...
现在，21世纪, 互联网的时代, 仍然这样做，像没有受过教育的人
-----------
什么是学区房 (高中) ??http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Chicago/31956593.html
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: ------------------
: 对.
: 之前，中国父母喜欢道听途说 ... 什么大学全国平等录取, 什么"学区房" ...
: 现在，21世纪, 互联网的时代, 仍然这样做，像没有受过教育的人
: -----------
: 什么是学区房 (高中) ??
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Chicago/31956593.html
: 互联网时代当然不一样了，但就算结合了大数据，机器人的智力水平也不高，不要盲目
: 相信。
----
同意。需要检查数据，链接，加上受过教育的人的判断.
有些人编故事，你应该问他, 基于什么。 如果不回答，忽略他.
: 有的人，确实应该忽略他。实际上，这样的人也常常是会被大家忽略的。
----------
OK. 以 "大学全国平等录取", "学区房" 为例;
看看, 大家忽略 who:
-----------
什么是学区房 (高中) ??
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Chicago/31956593.html
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
: ----------
: OK. 以 "大学全国平等录取", "学区房" 为例;
: 看看, 大家忽略 who:
: -----------
: 什么是学区房 (高中) ??
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Chicago/31956593.html
: 这是一个被忽略的帖子吧，基本没什么讨论，虽然有很多的数字。
数据说出真相。 没有争议, 没什么可讨论 .. 除了情感化的话