Naperville Central, North 或 Neuqua Valley high 到底哪个好

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wehe68
楼主 (未名空间)
准备搬到芝加哥西郊,小孩再开学就上高中。在家里反复研究芝加哥西郊的高中。
Hinsdale Central High不错,在usnews里全美排名332, 但是离上班的地方开车要一
个小时。看了一下Naperville的三所高中,在usnews里的排名都不高。Central是1059
名,North是977名,Neuqua是959名。附近的Glenbard West High 还排名445。 不是说中国人多的地方学校排名都高吗?为什么Naperville的高中排名都很低呢?
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pptwo
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你去schooldigger上查查排名就平衡了。
【 在 wehe68 (逸云) 的大作中提到: 】
准备搬到芝加哥西郊,小孩再开学就上高中。在家里反复研究芝加哥西郊的高中。
Hinsdale Central High不错,在usnews里全美排名332, 但是离上班的地方开车要一
个小时。看了一下Naperville的三所高中,在usnews里的排名都不高。Central是
1059
名,North是977名,Neuqua是959名。附近的Glenbard West High 还排名445。 不是说
中国人多的地方学校排名都高吗?为什么Naperville的高中排名都很低呢?
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gogo2004
3 楼
1059
: 名,North是977名,Neuqua是959名。附近的Glenbard West High 还排名445。 不是说
: 中国人多的地方学校排名都高吗?为什么Naperville的高中排名都很低呢?
这样的问题,来问??
获得基础的大学培训吗?
【 在 wehe68 (逸云) 的大作中提到: 】
准备搬到芝加哥西郊,小孩再开学就上高中。在家里反复研究芝加哥西郊的高中。
Hinsdale Central High不错,在usnews里全美排名332, 但是离上班的地方开车要一
个小时。看了一下Naperville的三所高中,在usnews里的排名都不高。Central是
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THR
4 楼
usnews排名主要根据学校里选修AP的学生比例。而且和学生通过AP的比例无关,更和其他因素无任何关系。一般富人区的孩子都会在家长要求下学些ap课,这样学校排名就高一些。

其它的一些排名各有其它因素决定,比如州统考的成绩,比如师生比例等。

naperville的几个学校都是大学校,学生比较多,选修AP的比例并不是很高,所以
USNEWS的排名不高。

中国人多的地方只决定好学生的成绩,不会改变bottom学生的兴趣。

上好大学,最后还是孩子自身实力和家长实力综合的结果。父母是藤校毕业的,肯定有利。孩子自己出类拔萃的,也不会被淹没。

在一个竞争比较激烈的学校,有好的一面有不利的一面。好的是从小经过严格竞争,将来到大学到社会都比较容易适应。不利的当然就是有些机会在竞争中失去。

但是,有些学校,连给你参与竞争的机会都没有。比如数理化竞赛学校根本就不参与。你是鸡头其实也没多大用。
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gogo2004
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This was done by computing a College Readiness Index based on the school's
AP participation rate – the number of 12th-grade students in the 2014-2015 academic year who took at least one AP test before or during their senior
year, divided by the total number of 12th-graders at the school – and how
well the students performed on those tests.

The latter part, called the quality-adjusted AP participation rate, is the
number of 12th-grade students in the 2014-2015 academic year who took and
passed *** received an AP score of 3 or higher *** at least one AP test
before or during their senior year, divided by the number of 12th-graders at that school.

For the CRI, the quality-adjusted AP participation rate was weighted 75
percent in the calculation, and the simple AP participation rate was
weighted 25 percent.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/how-us-news-
calculated-the-rankings
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THR
6 楼
你这是怕大家看不懂中文所以特地找了英文原版?
呵呵。
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
This was done by computing a College Readiness Index based on the school's
AP participation rate – the number of 12th-grade students in the 2014-
2015
academic year who took at least one AP test before or during their senior : year, divided by the total number of 12th-graders at the school – and how
well the students performed on those tests.
The latter part, called the quality-adjusted AP participation rate, is the
number of 12th-grade students in the 2014-2015 academic year who took and : passed *** received an AP score of 3 or higher *** at least one AP test
before or during their senior year, divided by the number of 12th-graders at
that school.
...................
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mileslyp
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最好的是 IMSA,伊利诺伊排名第一,全美排名第二

https://patch.com/illinois/chicago/25-best-public-high-school-illinois-
report
http://www.ibtimes.com/10-best-math-science-high-schools-america-320666
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/aurora-beacon-news/news/ct-abn-imsa-niche-ranking-st-1118-20161117-story.html
https://www.niche.com/k12/illinois-mathematics--and--science-academy-aurora-il/rankings/

根据今年US News排名 203, 204学区最好的高中是 Metea Valley High School

Illinois High School Ranking 2017

23. Metea Valley High School (District 204)
25. Nequa Valley High School (District 204)
27. Naperville Central High School (District 203)
33. Naperville North High Schoo (District 203)
42. Waubonsie Valley High School (District 204)
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gogo2004
8 楼
包括链接. 指出你的笔误,,, 呵呵。
*** received an AP score of 3 or higher ***
"usnews排名主要根据学校里选修AP的学生比例。而且和学生通过AP的比例无关,"
【 在 THR (???) 的大作中提到: 】
你这是怕大家看不懂中文所以特地找了英文原版?
呵呵。
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mileslyp
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203, 204学区的高中学生人数远远大于你提到的其他几所高中。另外全美18000+多所
公立高中,排名900 - 1000已经是 top 5%了,应该算很不错了。
【 在 wehe68 (逸云) 的大作中提到: 】
准备搬到芝加哥西郊,小孩再开学就上高中。在家里反复研究芝加哥西郊的高中。
Hinsdale Central High不错,在usnews里全美排名332, 但是离上班的地方开车要一
个小时。看了一下Naperville的三所高中,在usnews里的排名都不高。Central是
1059
名,North是977名,Neuqua是959名。附近的Glenbard West High 还排名445。 不是说
中国人多的地方学校排名都高吗?为什么Naperville的高中排名都很低呢?
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gogo2004
10 楼
以 Naperville Central High School 为例: (during the 2014-2015 school year to be eligible for the rankings.)

9-12 GRADES
2,890 TOTAL ENROLLMENT

2,890 / 4 grades = 750

College Readiness Index 43.0

AP® Tested 47%
AP® Passed 88%

----------https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/illinois/districts/
naperville-cusd-203/naperville-central-high-school-6883

(Current info on its web)

Grade 12

Students Taking One or More AP Exams 293
Students Earning College Credit For One or More AP Exams 268
----------https://www.illinoisreportcard.com/school.aspx?source=trends&source2=
apearlycollegecredit&Schoolid=190222030260001


AP® Passed: 268/293 = 91% (88% 2014-2015 school year )

simple AP participation rate
293/750 * 100 % = 39% (47% 2014-2015 school year )

268/750 *100 (%) * 3/4 + 293/750*100(%) * 1/4 = 36.57 (%)

College Readiness Index: 36.57 (43.0 2014-2015 school year)

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the "quality-adjusted AP participation rate", is the
number of 12th-grade students in the 2014-2015 academic year who took and
passed *** received an AP score of 3 or higher *** at least one AP test
before or during their senior year, divided by the number of 12th-graders atthat school.

For the CRI, the quality-adjusted AP participation rate was weighted 75
percent in the calculation, and the simple AP participation rate was
weighted 25 percent.
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gogo2004
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Naperville Central High School
9-12 GRADES
TOTAL ENROLLMENT 2,890
College Readiness Index 43.0
AP® Tested 47%
AP® Passed 88%
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Adlai E Stevenson High School
9-12 GRADES
TOTAL ENROLLMENT 3,839
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3,839 > 2,890 Stevenson是大学校,学生比较多,选修AP的比例很高
College Readiness Index 71.6
AP® Tested 77%
AP® Passed 90%
所以USNEWS的排名高。
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/illinois/districts/
naperville-cusd-203/naperville-central-high-school-6883
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/illinois/districts/adlai-e-stevenson-hsd-125/adlai-e-stevenson-high-school-6955
【 在 THR (???) 的大作中提到: 】
naperville的几个学校都是大学校,学生比较多,选修AP的比例并不是很高,所以
USNEWS的排名不高。
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gogo2004
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Glenbard West High School
9-12 GRADES
2,285 TOTAL ENROLLMENT
College Readiness Index 58.2
AP® Tested 68%
AP® Passed 80%
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2,285 < 2,890
Glenbard West High School是小学校,学生比较少,选修AP的比例高,所以USNEWS的
排名高。
【 在 THR (???) 的大作中提到: 】
naperville的几个学校都是大学校,学生比较多,选修AP的比例并不是很高,所以
USNEWS的排名不高。
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gogo2004
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Grade 12

Students Taking One or More AP Courses 359

Low Income 13
White 242
Black 3
Hispanic 15
Asian 80
Am. Indian 0
Pacific Islander 1
Two or More 18
https://www.illinoisreportcard.com/school.aspx?source=trends&source2=
acenrollment&Schoolid=190222030260001

359 Students Taking Courses => 293 Students Taking Exams => 268 passed
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gogo2004
14 楼
有一个解释,"美国新闻" 没有多少钱,雇了一些假专家做高中评估.
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THR
15 楼
你贴这个数据你读过没有?naperville central ap 通过率88%,这个学校80%。
贴数据打自己脸,还能比你更傻逼吗?
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
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Glenbard West High School
9-12 GRADES
2,285 TOTAL ENROLLMENT
College Readiness Index 58.2
AP® Tested 68%
AP® Passed 80%
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2,285 < 2,890
Glenbard West High School是小学校,学生比较少,选修AP的比例高,所以USNEWS的
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gogo2004
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发信人: THR (???), 信区: Chicago
标 题: Re: Naperville Central, North 或 Neuqua Valley high 到底哪
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 29 19:09:18 2017, 美东)
你贴这个数据你读过没有?naperville central ap 通过率88%,这个学校80%。
贴数据打自己脸,还能比你更傻逼吗?
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
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: Glenbard West High School
: 9-12 GRADES
: 2,285 TOTAL ENROLLMENT
: College Readiness Index 58.2
: AP® Tested 68%
: AP® Passed 80%
: ---------------------
: 2,285 < 2,890
: Glenbard West High School是小学校,学生比较少,选修AP的比例高,所以USNEWS的
: ...................
【 在 THR (???) 的大作中提到: 】
你贴这个数据你读过没有?naperville central ap 通过率88%,这个学校80%。
贴数据打自己脸,还能比你更傻逼吗?
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gogo2004
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High School COLLEGE READINESS
-----------------------------------------------------------

#1 Northside College Preparatory High School 94.7
#2 Payton College Preparatory High School 89.1
#3 Jones College Prep High School 81.4
#4 Young Magnet High School 77.6
#5 Lane Technical High School 74.4
#6 Adlai E Stevenson High School 71.6
#7 Hinsdale Central High School 62.8
#8 Lincoln Park High School 62.0
#9 Prospect High School 61.5
#10 Brooks College Prep Academy High School 60.2
#11 John Hersey High School 58.9
#12 Phoenix Military Academy High School 58.6
#13 Glenbard West High School 58.2
......
#25 Neuqua Valley High School 44.8

#27 Naperville North High School 44.5

#33 Naperville Central High School 43.0
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/illinois/rankings
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gogo2004
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College-Ready Students: 12年级生,通过至少一次AP考试的学生.

High school 12th graders take AP® exams to earn college credit and
demonstrate success at college-level course work.

EX. N: 12年级学生总数; T: who took at least one AP test before or during
their senior year,的学生人数 P:通过考试的学生人数
quality-adjusted AP participation rate: P/N* 100%
simple AP participation rate: T/N* 100%

College Readiness Index(CRI): (P/N* 100%) * 75% + (T/N* 100%) *25%
--------------
它显示了该高中 College-Ready Students 的百分比.

(1) AP课程有一些先决条件; 不是想take 9 可以take
(2) 只能考试一次,不像SAT,ACT
(3) College Readiness Index 高或低, 这取决于学校的 College-Ready 学生人数 (
百分比)

与学校学生人数无关

Grade 12

Students Taking One or More AP Courses 359

Low Income 13
White 242
Black 3
Hispanic 15
Asian 80
Am. Indian 0
Pacific Islander 1
Two or More 18
https://www.illinoisreportcard.com/school.aspx?source=trends&source2=
acenrollment&Schoolid=190222030260001

359 Students Taking Courses => 293 Students Taking Exams => 268 passed
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gogo2004
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#13 Glenbard West High School 58.2
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9-12 GRADES
2,285 TOTAL ENROLLMENT
12th 560
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The students have been named semifinalists in the 2016 National Merit
Scholarship competition: (5)
Glenbard West students Karla Bonic, Patrick Doyle, Alex Lettenberger,
Nathaniel Sauers and Sarah Swiston.
2015: (6)
Glenbard West students Hailey Ardell, Emma Erickson, Will Farley, Jacob
Kelleher, Amrita Rajesh and Duncan Williams.
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https://patch.com/illinois/glenellyn/8-glenbard-district-87-students-named-
national-merit-semifinalists
https://patch.com/illinois/glenellyn/10-glenbard-district-87-students-named-national-merit-semifinalists
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about 1%
全国,0.5%
【 在 gogo2004 (挑灯看剑) 的大作中提到: 】
High School COLLEGE READINESS
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gogo2004
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College-Ready Students: 12年级生,通过至少一次AP考试的学生.
-------------

高中应该生产更多College-Ready Students. 这取决于"学生来源"和"XYZ".

XYZ: how these schools prepared their students for college.

判断学生来源: 种族背景 + Economically Disadvantaged Students
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请自己判断,比较四所高中"XYZ":

Naperville North High School

College Readiness Index 44.5
--------
American Indian/Alaskan Native0.2%
Asian17%
Black6%
Hawaiian Native/Pacific Islander0.1%
Hispanic9%
White65%
Two or More Races4%
--------
Free Lunch program (% of total) 15%
Reduced-Price Lunch Program (% of total) 2%
Total Economically Disadvantaged (% of total) 17%
----------------------

Naperville Central High School

College Readiness Index 43.0
------------
American Indian/Alaskan Native0.2%
Asian14%
Black4%
Hawaiian Native/Pacific Islander0.0%
Hispanic7%
White71%
Two or More Races4%
------------
Free Lunch program (% of total) 12%
Reduced-Price Lunch Program (% of total) 2%
Total Economically Disadvantaged (% of total) 14%
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Hinsdale South High School

College Readiness Index 44.5
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American Indian/Alaskan Native0.4%
Asian10%
Black20%
Hawaiian Native/Pacific Islander0.2%
Hispanic12%
White55%
Two or More Races3%

Free Lunch program (% of total) 32%
Reduced-Price Lunch Program (% of total) 0%
Total Economically Disadvantaged (% of total) 32%
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Glenbard West High School

College Readiness Index 58.2
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American Indian/Alaskan Native0.2%
Asian14%
Black5%
Hawaiian Native/Pacific Islander0%
Hispanic16%
White62%
Two or More Races3%
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Free Lunch program (% of total) 23%
Reduced-Price Lunch Program (% of total) 3%
Total Economically Disadvantaged (% of total) 26%
===========================

http://www.ascd.org/publications/educational-leadership/oct08/vol66/num02/What-Makes-a-Student-College-Ready%C2%A2.aspx

Is Your School Preparing Students for College?

The goal of this project was to identify common effective practices for
getting a wider range of students ready for college. We have synthesized our findings into a self-evaluation tool—the College Readiness Evaluation for Students and Teachers—which will help high schools determine how well they are addressing the four dimensions of college readiness. Schools do the self-evaluation by having teachers, counselors, and administrators complete an
online instrument. This input generates a report listing the areas in which the school could improve college readiness practices, an explanation of why the highlighted areas are important, and which activities the school should undertake first. Also included are links to a range of proven resources that the school can use to get started on an improvement plan.

By learning from a set of best-practice high schools, all high schools can
begin to move in the right direction, emphasizing the knowledge, skills,
dispositions, programs, and practices necessary for all students to be
successful in postsecondary educational settings.
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parn
21 楼
这种问题都要来问的人,小孩子读书肯定读不好。。。
【 在 wehe68 (逸云) 的大作中提到: 】
准备搬到芝加哥西郊,小孩再开学就上高中。在家里反复研究芝加哥西郊的高中。
Hinsdale Central High不错,在usnews里全美排名332, 但是离上班的地方开车要一
个小时。看了一下Naperville的三所高中,在usnews里的排名都不高。Central是
1059
名,North是977名,Neuqua是959名。附近的Glenbard West High 还排名445。 不是说
中国人多的地方学校排名都高吗?为什么Naperville的高中排名都很低呢?
g
gogo2004
22 楼
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CRI = f (S, X)
S: 学生来源: 种族背景 + Economically Disadvantaged Students
X how these schools prepared their students for college.
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使用该数据可以比较不同高中的 X
---------------------------------
Ex3: 很接近的CRI和类似的S ==> 预测 X (how these schools prepared their
students for college.)
-----------------------------------------
(1) Prospect High School
College Readiness Score 61.5
American Indian/Alaskan Native0.1%
Asian6%
Black2%
Hawaiian Native/Pacific Islander0.1%
Hispanic11%
White77%
Two or More Races4%
--------
Free Lunch program (% of total) 13% ?
Reduced-Price Lunch Program (% of total) 0% ?
Total Economically Disadvantaged (% of total) 13% ?
============
(2) Hinsdale Central High School
College Readiness Score 62.8
American Indian/Alaskan Native0.2%
Asian15%
Black3%
Hawaiian Native/Pacific Islander0.1%
Hispanic5%
White75%
Two or More Races2%
--------
Free Lunch program (% of total) 8% ?
Reduced-Price Lunch Program (% of total) 0% ?
Total Economically Disadvantaged (% of total) 8% ?
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【 在 wehe68 (逸云) 的大作中提到: 】
准备搬到芝加哥西郊,小孩再开学就上高中。在家里反复研究芝加哥西郊的高中。
Hinsdale Central High不错,在usnews里全美排名332,