Article 265 of the New York Penal Law defines a loaded firearm as follows: “Loaded firearm” means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any firearm which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a quantity of ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm.
同时又有法律条文：
"A person may not transport or possess a shotgun or rifle in or on a motor vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine."
【 在 abracadabra (abracadabra) 的大作中提到: 】 : 按照纽约州法律，你在家，楼上有一只枪，地下室有几发子弹，就是loaded. : Article 265 of the New York Penal Law defines a loaded firearm as follows: : “Loaded firearm” means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any firearm : which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a quantity of : ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm. : 同时又有法律条文： : "A person may not transport or possess a shotgun or rifle in or on a motor : vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine."
“A person may not transport or possess a shotgun or rifle in or on a motor vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine.”
按这个道理，纽约人都不能去打靶了。因为车里一有子弹，枪 就是loaded.不管子弹放哪里。
【 在 abracadabra (abracadabra) 的大作中提到: 】 : 按照纽约州法律，你在家，楼上有一只枪，地下室有几发子弹，就是loaded. : Article 265 of the New York Penal Law defines a loaded firearm as follows: : “Loaded firearm” means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any firearm : which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a quantity of : ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm. : 同时又有法律条文： : "A person may not transport or possess a shotgun or rifle in or on a motor : vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine."
New York is (in)famous for outlawing muzzle "breaks" instead of muzzle brakes in our SAFE act.
U cant hold a very high bar on people who write New York gun laws.
New York laws says local police department must complete processing a pistol license application in 6 months, I waited 18 months for mine.
【 在 noles (mileman) 的大作中提到: 】 : 自相矛盾： : “楼上有一只枪，地下室有几发子弹，就是loaded.” : “A person may not transport or possess a shotgun or rifle in or on a motor : vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine.” : 按这个道理，纽约人都不能去打靶了。因为车里一有子弹，枪 就是loaded.不管子弹放 : 哪里。
【 在 abracadabra (abracadabra) 的大作中提到: 】 : New York is (in)famous for outlawing muzzle "breaks" instead of muzzle : brakes in our SAFE act. : U cant hold a very high bar on people who write New York gun laws. : New York laws says local police department must complete processing a pistol : license application in 6 months, I waited 18 months for mine. : motor
I m in my 40s, I dont think by the time I retire FL will be much better than current NY.
Not with the way Bloomberg spends money to push for gun control in all the states. I think Bloomberg alone spent more money in VA elections than all pro-gun organizations combined.
He did spend lots of money but he only won 3 delegates, all from outside of US. Not even Democrats buy in that agenda. Thanks to Warren. Every American sees MB as a joke.
I will make sure my one vote goes against what he sells.
【 在 abracadabra (abracadabra) 的大作中提到: 】 : I m in my 40s, I dont think by the time I retire FL will be much better than : current NY. : Not with the way Bloomberg spends money to push for gun control in all the : states. I think Bloomberg alone spent more money in VA elections than all : pro-gun organizations combined.
【 在 abracadabra (abracadabra) 的大作中提到: 】 : for that I thank you sir. : Bloomberg may have made a fool out of himself in the presidential campaign : but he has not and will not throw money in politics at all levels. : this is the guy who wants to ban even large size soda drinks, can let him : get his way, can we :)
纯小白问疑：一定要放在ammo can里吗？是不是车里不能有pre-loaded magazine，如
果magazine也不在枪里? 那到了靶场自己将子弹放到magazine里？
可能没表达清楚，如果弹夹不在枪里，枪和弹夹都在后备箱包里，这时弹夹里可以有子弹吗？是不是各个州规定不一样？
谢谢！
不同州规矩不一样的，很多网上论坛都有
问题是这个子弹自己放到magazine是什么鬼？难道期待靶场有白牛一身女仆装，一边给你压子弹？
【 在 dreamer8888 (dream) 的大作中提到: 】
: 纯小白问疑：一定要放在ammo can里吗？是不是车里不能有pre-loaded magazine，如
: 果magazine也不在枪里? 那到了靶场自己将子弹放到magazine里？
多谢！不好意思，没去过靶场。感觉站在靶场自己一个一个子弹摁到弹夹里有点别扭，以为大家都是应该在家准备好，到了靶场直接开火
【 在 Subway4321 (塞百胃) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不同州规矩不一样的，很多网上论坛都有
: 问题是这个子弹自己放到magazine是什么鬼？难道期待靶场有白牛一身女仆装，一边给
: 你压子弹？
可能没表达清楚，如果弹夹不在枪里，枪和弹夹都在后备箱包里，这时弹夹里可以有子弹吗？
各州规定不一，靶场规定不一。
如果没有carry permit，最好把枪和子弹都放在后备箱。
子弹可以事先压进弹夹，如果你弹夹多的话
有的靶场自己带子弹收费会贵几块钱。
我一般压好5个弹夹，然后带着4盒子弹去
大家都是站在哪里，傻愣愣的一颗一颗压，不然光是打，其实多少颗子弹5分钟都打完了
【 在 dreamer8888 (dream) 的大作中提到: 】
: 多谢！不好意思，没去过靶场。感觉站在靶场自己一个一个子弹摁到弹夹里有点别扭，
: 以为大家都是应该在家准备好，到了靶场直接开火
多谢，没有carry permit. 州里规定是车里的枪管或弹夹不能loaded，但不知道弹夹和枪分开时能不能事先装上子弹。
【 在 taizong (唐太宗) 的大作中提到: 】
: 各州规定不一，靶场规定不一。
: 如果没有carry permit，最好把枪和子弹都放在后备箱。
: 子弹可以事先压进弹夹，如果你弹夹多的话
: 有的靶场自己带子弹收费会贵几块钱。
: 我一般压好5个弹夹，然后带着4盒子弹去
原来是这样，知道了，谢谢！
【 在 Subway4321 (塞百胃) 的大作中提到: 】
: 大家都是站在哪里，傻愣愣的一颗一颗压，不然光是打，其实多少颗子弹5分钟都打
完了
哪个州？
【 在 dreamer8888 (dream) 的大作中提到: 】
: 多谢，没有carry permit. 州里规定是车里的枪管或弹夹不能loaded，但不知道弹夹和
: 枪分开时能不能事先装上子弹。
密歇根
【 在 doublepar (shoot straight) 的大作中提到: 】
: 哪个州？
那意思是弹夹不能在枪上 不是说子弹不能压在弹夹里
【 在 dreamer8888 (dream) 的大作中提到: 】
: 多谢，没有carry permit. 州里规定是车里的枪管或弹夹不能loaded，但不知道弹夹和
: 枪分开时能不能事先装上子弹。
原文时这样的：
“At all times when carried in or on a motor vehicle, including snowmobiles:
Rifles, shotguns, muzzleloading and other firearms must be unloaded in
both barrel and magazine and enclosed in a case or carried in the trunk of a vehicle.“
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7-350-79136_79772_79773_83478-31579--,00.html
枪膛里（Barrel）有子弹：loaded
弹夹里有子弹，并且弹夹插在枪里：loaded
其他情况都应该算是unloaded，包括空弹夹在枪里，装了子弹的弹夹没插枪里
感觉应该是这样，谢谢！
【 在 yeye (椰叶) 的大作中提到: 】
: 枪膛里（Barrel）有子弹：loaded
: 弹夹里有子弹，并且弹夹插在枪里：loaded
: 其他情况都应该算是unloaded，包括空弹夹在枪里，装了子弹的弹夹没插枪里
【 在 yeye (椰叶) 的大作中提到: 】
: 枪膛里（Barrel）有子弹：loaded
这种好像叫cocked，或者是loaded with a round in the chamber
: 弹夹里有子弹，并且弹夹插在枪里：loaded
: 其他情况都应该算是unloaded，包括空弹夹在枪里，装了子弹的弹夹没插枪里
1. 带去靶场的枪必须是空枪，空枪放在后备箱里带到靶场。空枪不能放在司机旁边。
2. 子弹可以一盒一盒的带去靶场。子弹可以和空枪一起放在后备箱里。子弹不能放在
司机旁边。
3. 如果有多余的弹夹，子弹也可以事先塞入多余的弹夹，放在后备箱带去靶场。带有
子弹的弹夹不能放在司机旁边。
4. 在靶场一颗一颗压子弹很常见。大家都这么做。
【 在 dreamer8888 (dream) 的大作中提到: 】
: 纯小白问疑：一定要放在ammo can里吗？是不是车里不能有pre-loaded magazine，如
: 果magazine也不在枪里? 那到了靶场自己将子弹放到magazine里？
: 可能没表达清楚，如果弹夹不在枪里，枪和弹夹都在后备箱包里，这时弹夹里可以有子
: 弹吗？是不是各个州规定不一样？
: 谢谢！
这么详尽回答，太感谢了！
【 在 verizonchen (verizonchen) 的大作中提到: 】
: 1. 带去靶场的枪必须是空枪，空枪放在后备箱里带到靶场。空枪不能放在司机旁边。
: 2. 子弹可以一盒一盒的带去靶场。子弹可以和空枪一起放在后备箱里。子弹不能放在
: 司机旁边。
: 3. 如果有多余的弹夹，子弹也可以事先塞入多余的弹夹，放在后备箱带去靶场。带有
: 子弹的弹夹不能放在司机旁边。
: 4. 在靶场一颗一颗压子弹很常见。大家都这么做。
哪个州连子弹都不能放在司机旁边？
【 在 verizonchen (verizonchen) 的大作中提到: 】
: 1. 带去靶场的枪必须是空枪，空枪放在后备箱里带到靶场。空枪不能放在司机旁边。
: 2. 子弹可以一盒一盒的带去靶场。子弹可以和空枪一起放在后备箱里。子弹不能放在
: 司机旁边。
: 3. 如果有多余的弹夹，子弹也可以事先塞入多余的弹夹，放在后备箱带去靶场。带有
: 子弹的弹夹不能放在司机旁边。
: 4. 在靶场一颗一颗压子弹很常见。大家都这么做。
快速装弹器：uplula
有的州把弹夹看作枪的一部分，所以最好弹夹空着。到了靶场用speed loader一分钟都不要就上好了。
【 在 dreamer8888 (dream) 的大作中提到: 】
: 纯小白问疑：一定要放在ammo can里吗？是不是车里不能有pre-loaded magazine，如
: 果magazine也不在枪里? 那到了靶场自己将子弹放到magazine里？
: 可能没表达清楚，如果弹夹不在枪里，枪和弹夹都在后备箱包里，这时弹夹里可以有子
: 弹吗？是不是各个州规定不一样？
: 谢谢！
每个州法律不一样，我觉得打个电话到警察局或靶场问一下比较好。
按照纽约州法律，你在家，楼上有一只枪，地下室有几发子弹，就是loaded.
Article 265 of the New York Penal Law defines a loaded firearm as follows:
“Loaded firearm” means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any firearm
which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a quantity of
ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm.
同时又有法律条文：
"A person may not transport or possess a shotgun or rifle in or on a motor
vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine."
谢谢推荐！
【 在 exception (NullPointerException) 的大作中提到: 】
: 快速装弹器：uplula
好的，谢谢！
【 在 SkylineR35 (GTR) 的大作中提到: 】
: 有的州把弹夹看作枪的一部分，所以最好弹夹空着。到了靶场用speed loader一分钟都
: 不要就上好了。
好，非常感谢！
【 在 wjerry (wjerry) 的大作中提到: 】
: 每个州法律不一样，我觉得打个电话到警察局或靶场问一下比较好。
纽约州的法律真严
【 在 abracadabra (abracadabra) 的大作中提到: 】
: 按照纽约州法律，你在家，楼上有一只枪，地下室有几发子弹，就是loaded.
: Article 265 of the New York Penal Law defines a loaded firearm as follows:
: “Loaded firearm” means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any firearm
: which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a quantity of
: ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm.
: 同时又有法律条文：
: "A person may not transport or possess a shotgun or rifle in or on a motor
: vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine."
if people don't fight to protect their rights, NY and CA are the future of
all states.
【 在 dreamer8888 (dream) 的大作中提到: 】
: 纽约州的法律真严
自相矛盾：
“楼上有一只枪，地下室有几发子弹，就是loaded.”
“A person may not transport or possess a shotgun or rifle in or on a motor vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine.”
按这个道理，纽约人都不能去打靶了。因为车里一有子弹，枪 就是loaded.不管子弹放哪里。
【 在 abracadabra (abracadabra) 的大作中提到: 】
: 按照纽约州法律，你在家，楼上有一只枪，地下室有几发子弹，就是loaded.
: Article 265 of the New York Penal Law defines a loaded firearm as follows:
: “Loaded firearm” means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any firearm
: which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a quantity of
: ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm.
: 同时又有法律条文：
: "A person may not transport or possess a shotgun or rifle in or on a motor
: vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine."
New York is (in)famous for outlawing muzzle "breaks" instead of muzzle
brakes in our SAFE act.
U cant hold a very high bar on people who write New York gun laws.
New York laws says local police department must complete processing a pistol license application in 6 months, I waited 18 months for mine.
【 在 noles (mileman) 的大作中提到: 】
: 自相矛盾：
: “楼上有一只枪，地下室有几发子弹，就是loaded.”
: “A person may not transport or possess a shotgun or rifle in or on a
motor
: vehicle unless the firearm is unloaded in both chamber and magazine.”
: 按这个道理，纽约人都不能去打靶了。因为车里一有子弹，枪 就是loaded.不管子弹放
: 哪里。
‘muzzle breaks' haha.
以后退休到佛罗里达吧。
【 在 abracadabra (abracadabra) 的大作中提到: 】
: New York is (in)famous for outlawing muzzle "breaks" instead of muzzle
: brakes in our SAFE act.
: U cant hold a very high bar on people who write New York gun laws.
: New York laws says local police department must complete processing a
pistol
: license application in 6 months, I waited 18 months for mine.
: motor
I m in my 40s, I dont think by the time I retire FL will be much better than current NY.
Not with the way Bloomberg spends money to push for gun control in all the
states. I think Bloomberg alone spent more money in VA elections than all
pro-gun organizations combined.
【 在 noles (mileman) 的大作中提到: 】
: ‘muzzle breaks' haha.
: 以后退休到佛罗里达吧。
: pistol
He did spend lots of money but he only won 3 delegates, all from outside of US. Not even Democrats buy in that agenda. Thanks to Warren. Every American sees MB as a joke.
I will make sure my one vote goes against what he sells.
【 在 abracadabra (abracadabra) 的大作中提到: 】
: I m in my 40s, I dont think by the time I retire FL will be much better
than
: current NY.
: Not with the way Bloomberg spends money to push for gun control in all the
: states. I think Bloomberg alone spent more money in VA elections than all : pro-gun organizations combined.
for that I thank you sir.
Bloomberg may have made a fool out of himself in the presidential campaign
but he has not and will not throw money in politics at all levels.
this is the guy who wants to ban even large size soda drinks, can not let
him
get his way, can we :)
【 在 noles (mileman) 的大作中提到: 】
: I will make sure my one vote goes against what he sells.
: than
I hear you even though I don't drink soda:)
【 在 abracadabra (abracadabra) 的大作中提到: 】
: for that I thank you sir.
: Bloomberg may have made a fool out of himself in the presidential campaign
: but he has not and will not throw money in politics at all levels.
: this is the guy who wants to ban even large size soda drinks, can let him : get his way, can we :)