Thanks to the trade war news, many friends are talking about Huawei. Especially about whether Huawei is owned by China government. I joined Huawei 23 years ago, left her 17 years ago, as an early stage employee, I always patiently explained what I know about Huawei. In kids' school, in Gym, my American friends also chat about Huawei, they are surprised "their enemy" is sitting next to them, then I again share the piece of the truth I know about Huawei's ownership. After so many times of explaining, I felt I'd rather to write it down to set the record. I alway point my nose and declare "I invested Huawei, yes, I owned the company".. Here is how. When I joined the company as a software engineer, my annual salary and bonus together is merely around $10K USD (way less than a janitor this days in the silicon valley). At year end time, company knew that I made $10K from my work, they told me that I can buy $8K internal stocks from the company, yes, I need $2K for basic living, they knows. Last year, the dividend paid to internal stock is 95%, my for-runner received it, which I also know. It is your choice to buy the stock or not, most people paid and bought the stock as I did. A year later, my income almost doubled, most of them came from the stock dividend which I invested. Again, the company says you can put 80% of your money to invest on Huawei, and you do it voluntarily. During my time at Huawei, the annual dividend rate was staying at 70% level. I put more and more of my asset investing Huawei, my income grows proportionally to what I invested, but 75% of it was from dividend. Employment is taking huge risk investing this one thing alone, and this piece of internal stock note is not protected by law at the time, however, employees received multiple folds of pay back compared to other employers in the industry. At the time, Chinese government does support private businesses, even trying to monopolize the industry by supporting state-owned adventures, bank does not give loan to private sector either. Btw, there was no stock market at China then. With this strategy (or you may call it a scheme), Huawei kept its annual revenue within its tank, and kept growing, out runs all state-owned competitors. So, It is a fact that all employees invested Huawei and share the title of "business owners". With the flat ownership, Ren says he owns only 1.7% of the business, I believes it. And I say I owned it, which is also correct. 17 years ago, while Ren was leading his fleet to the Atlantic ocean, I sold my stocks to Huawei with the price I paid, left that little fortune behind, and took my wife and headed to pacific ocean with my little canoe.
Why I am sharing this? I know no secret. But while I am stepping back and seeing this from far, I see whatever detail, whatever history, whatever secret serves no good for the fundamentals, the causality chain is longer than any of us can gasp. At this very point, I only wish more people join to see things with a fair, sympathetic and integral way and join to pray for leaders with sacrificing mind to lead us to a peaceful and prosperous one world.
最近很多朋友聊到华为，尤其关于华为是不是政府企业，作为华为的比较早期的员工（23年前加入，17年前离开），我总是免不了不厌其烦的解释我的个人观察，在孩子学校，在健身房，老外也常常聊起这个，他们很惊奇发现 “敌人就在身边” LOL，我又一
点一点给他们解释华为是谁投资的。解释这么多次，我不如写下来一次分享出去。
我看到的华为基本上是员工共同投资共同持有的。不信我讲给你听。我加入华为的时候年收入➕奖金大约几万RMB，合几千美金，年底公司就算一下，嗯，你今年挣了
（比如说一万美金），给你留20%生活，允许你购买8千美金的公司内部股票，买不买由你，去年股票分红95%（我加入前一年是95%），你自己看吧，绝大部分员工就不由自主的掏了腰包。又一年下啦，我的收入因为分红和加薪，收入几乎翻了一倍，公司又说今年你的收入的80%可以让你买公司股票，你自愿决定，我在那几年，实际分红稳定在70%。就这样，几年下来，我的股票翻了好多倍，收入也成比例增加，但是收入75%左右来
自分红，员工承担很大的风险，因为这个股票没有任何法律保障，但是员工工作回报也远大于同行。那时候中国政府不支持私有企业，银行也不给贷款给民营经济，华为就靠这方法把每年的营销收入蓄在了自己池子里面。同时也让员工共同承担危机感以对抗强大对手。 所以说华为是每个员工共同投资的，这点是事实。因为所有员工扁平持股，
任正非只有1.7%股份，我也是相信的。如果我指着自己鼻子说我投资了华为那也是没有错的。
17年前任正非率领华为的船队下西洋的时候，我把自己的股份按自己掏腰包的购买价又卖给了华为，带着太太，驾驶自己的小独木船也出海了。
分享这个没别的深刻意图，作为小老百姓也不知道什么内幕，其实退几步远观这事，发现什么细节，什么过程，什么内幕并不重要，因果关系链长到超越你我的想象。在这个当口唯愿更多的人用持平公允客观的同理心来看待。若是有心帮忙，就一起发愿有领袖人物持以小我服役大我的公心来领导全民应对危机。
Thanks to the trade war news, many friends are talking about Huawei.
Especially about whether Huawei is owned by China government. I joined
Huawei 23 years ago, left her 17 years ago, as an early stage employee, I
always patiently explained what I know about Huawei. In kids' school, in Gym, my American friends also chat about Huawei, they are surprised "their
enemy" is sitting next to them, then I again share the piece of the truth I know about Huawei's ownership. After so many times of explaining, I felt I'd rather to write it down to set the record.
I alway point my nose and declare "I invested Huawei, yes, I owned the
company".. Here is how. When I joined the company as a software engineer, my annual salary and bonus together is merely around $10K USD (way less than a janitor this days in the silicon valley). At year end time, company knew
that I made $10K from my work, they told me that I can buy $8K internal
stocks from the company, yes, I need $2K for basic living, they knows. Last year, the dividend paid to internal stock is 95%, my for-runner received it, which I also know. It is your choice to buy the stock or not, most people
paid and bought the stock as I did. A year later, my income almost doubled, most of them came from the stock dividend which I invested. Again, the
company says you can put 80% of your money to invest on Huawei, and you do
it voluntarily. During my time at Huawei, the annual dividend rate was
staying at 70% level. I put more and more of my asset investing Huawei, my
income grows proportionally to what I invested, but 75% of it was from
dividend. Employment is taking huge risk investing this one thing alone, and this piece of internal stock note is not protected by law at the time,
however, employees received multiple folds of pay back compared to other
employers in the industry. At the time, Chinese government does support
private businesses, even trying to monopolize the industry by supporting
state-owned adventures, bank does not give loan to private sector either.
Btw, there was no stock market at China then. With this strategy (or you may call it a scheme), Huawei kept its annual revenue within its tank, and kept growing, out runs all state-owned competitors. So, It is a fact that all
employees invested Huawei and share the title of "business owners". With the flat ownership, Ren says he owns only 1.7% of the business, I believes it. And I say I owned it, which is also correct.
17 years ago, while Ren was leading his fleet to the Atlantic ocean, I sold my stocks to Huawei with the price I paid, left that little fortune behind, and took my wife and headed to pacific ocean with my little canoe.
Why I am sharing this? I know no secret. But while I am stepping back and
seeing this from far, I see whatever detail, whatever history, whatever
secret serves no good for the fundamentals, the causality chain is longer
than any of us can gasp. At this very point, I only wish more people join to see things with a fair, sympathetic and integral way and join to pray for
leaders with sacrificing mind to lead us to a peaceful and prosperous one
world.
你能先证明你是谁吗
为什么需要证明，你不相信吗？好吧，算我编的故事，你有什么评论？
【 在 beaverwu(进行到底) 的大作中提到: 】
: 你能先证明你是谁吗
问题就在这个股权结构。本质上华为是私人企业。不属于公开上市企业，没有各种上市监管。所以阿里巴巴不会被抵制，而华为会被抵制。因为这种公司垄断市场后对整体社会造福不大。利益都被内部消化了。
这个关于阿里巴巴和华为的对比，看起来像是你自己牵强出来的逻辑，是不是遭国际抵制好像更多是其他原因。阿里巴巴在境外销售额有多大？特乱普最近推出国际邮政联盟，算不算抵制？
中美之间的政治冲突根子很深，经济冲突是表层的，国家保护本土利益无可厚非，既然是做生意，自然对方有对方的选择，你自己也要做出自己的打算，任正非最近的讲话这点也非常清楚，展示他超越同一代人的眼光和战略定力。
可怕的是从至上到至下，有这样思考能力的人太少太少，大体都是顺我者昌 逆我者亡
的思路，再不行了就一哭二闹三上吊，国家被被这样的情绪导向就很可怕唉……
【 在 terahertz(潜水员) 的大作中提到: 】
: 问题就在这个股权结构。本质上华为是私人企业。不属于公开上市企业，没有各种上市
: 监管。所以阿里巴巴不会被抵制，而华为会被抵制。因为这种公司垄断市场后对整体社
: 会造福不大。利益都被内部消化了。