引用 @油价刚需 发表的: Coronavirus: Millions of Britons will need to contract COVID-19 for 'herd immunity' Sir Patrick Vallance tells Sky News about 60% of people will need to become infected in order for the UK to enjoy "herd immunity". Greg Heffer, political reporter Greg Heffer Political reporter @GregHeffer
Friday 13 March 2020 11:26, UK COVID-19CORONAVIRUS WOLVERHAMPTON, ENGLAND - MARCH 12: A member of the public is swabbed at a drive through Coronavirus testing site set up in a car park on March 12, 2020 in Wolverhampton, England. The National Health Service facility has been set up in a car park to allow people with NHS referrals to be swabbed for Covid-19. (Photo by Christopher Furlong/Getty Images) Image: A member of the public is swabbed at a drive through testing site
Why you can trust Sky News Millions of Britons will need to contract coronavirus in order to control the impact of the disease which is likely to return "year on year", the government's chief scientific adviser has told Sky News.
Around 60% of the UK population will need to become infected with coronavirus in order for society to have "herd immunity" from future outbreaks, Sir Patrick Vallance said.
Herd immunity is the resistance to a contagious disease within a population because enough people have become immune, and so it is harder for it to spread.
There is currently no vaccine available for coronavirus.
So far, 10 people in the UK who have had COVID-19 - the disease which develops from coronavirus - have died.
Patrick Vallance still Image: Sir Patrick says most of population need to get coronavirus to achieve herd immunity The number of confirmed cases in the UK reached 590 on Thursday - up by 134 in 24 hours, although Sir Patrick believes the actual number of people infected in the UK at the moment could be between 5,000 and 10,000.
Sir Patrick described COVID-19 as a "nasty disease" but stressed most people would only experience a "mild" illness.
More from Covid-19 Coronavirus: Donald Trump says 'large scale' testing will take place in US Coronavirus: Italian town turns chapel into mortuary chamber as it struggles to cope with deaths Coronavirus: The latest NHS advice on COVID-19 symptoms Coronavirus: Mount Everest shut ahead of climbing season Coronavirus: FTSE stages rally after day of global market carnage Coronavirus: Europe suffers a crisis of health and unity as outbreak takes hold He described how a majority of the UK's population of more than 65 million would need to be infected with coronavirus for the risk of widespread future outbreaks to recede.
"We think this virus is likely to be one that comes year on year, becomes like a seasonal virus," he told Sky News.
"Communities will become immune to it and that's going to be an important part of controlling this longer term.
"About 60% is the sort of figure you need to get herd immunity."
What are the four stages of government's plan? What are the four stages of government's plan? Despite suggestions the death rate from coronavirus could be around 1% of those infected, Sir Patrick said estimating how many might die was "difficult" because there may be many more people that haven't been detected yet.
"That's why some of the new tests that are being developed now are going to be so important, so we can really understand how this disease is spreading and we don't have a handle on that yet," he added.
Sky’s Thomas Moore explains how countries around the world are preparing to contain COVID-19
How to contain a global pandemic The World Health Organisation has declared a global pandemic following the spread of coronavirus across many countries.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Thursday confirmed the government is entering the second phase of its response to COVID-19 - moving from trying to contain the virus to delaying its spread.
Anyone with a new persistent cough or a high temperature will now have to self-isolate and stay at home for seven days, while schools have been urged to cancel planned trips abroad.
Sir Patrick is helping to oversee the government's response to coronavirus and defended the UK's strategy in dealing with the disease.
Prime minister Boris Johnson has called the coronavirus pandemic 'the worst public health crisis in a generation'.
PM: Those with symptoms should isolate for seven days Ministers are facing growing questions about why the UK isn't acting in a similar way to other European countries, such as France and Italy, who have taken measures ranging from banning large gatherings to quarantining the entire population.
Sir Patrick said the UK is "a little bit behind" where the coronavirus outbreak is in other countries due to early action in tracing and isolating those who are infected.
"What we don't want to do is to get into kneejerk reactions where you have to start doing measures at the wrong pace because something's happened," he added.
"So we're trying to keep ahead of it, we're trying to lay out the path so people can see what the actions are that are being advised."
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Sir Patrick also described Thursday's action taken by Mr Johnson as "a very big measure", adding: "It's going to have quite a big impact across a number of people, a number of households, a number of people.
"I don't think that's a trivial measure at all."
Banning mass gatherings and isolating entire households are the next steps being considered by the government, Sir Patrick revealed.
But, he argued, most of the transmission of coronavirus occurs in small gatherings rather than larger gatherings.
死了就不能投票了，可以不计算在内
那你还逛泥🐎的中文论坛啊？
意思就是让不能产生抗体的都死光了，就治本了？的确如此。
难道这就是准备把公园改成墓园的原因？
还在观察啊....学校不说考试咋办不敢跑啊
四级水平就够了吧。
不过，我也没看。。太长了，中文的我都懒得看。
我也在等学校通知，回去感觉对国家不负责但在这只能等死。。。
新闻源这么多，虎扑一向是转载也不专业，有质疑的早在外边转了一圈了，而不是硬硬的质疑。中外都是依托科学做的判断，谁对谁错要看结果验证。
西方这么做绝对不会让我们喜闻乐见，3个月的努力，这么弄病毒还会回来，并且再次大流行
这解释真可以
985一条街不会真有人连英语新闻都看不懂吧🐶
而且更可怕的是会影响生育，真要让自己先感染再治愈，英国最后人都没了
也并没有那么惊人。
一些科学家的看法是新冠并没法根除，而是会在夏天销声匿迹后变成流行性季节病。然后再慢慢变成普通感冒。
比如王辰院士2月初的观点。
http://k.sina.com.cn/article_6892190021_19ace794500100m6rd.html
英国敢于冒这个风险确实令人意外，不过，我觉得这应该还是一个科学问题。就像有人说的，坐下来看看发生什么吧。
最有疑问的事，如果有些国家采取了类似英国的方式，那么今年冬天我们怎么办？
看你的人民日报去
他这个理论就是煞笔，三个人需要两个有抗体，30个人需要29个人有抗体而不是需要20个人有抗体，20个有抗体的话那剩下的十个人可能会死，所以，需要n－1的人有抗体，而不是三分之二n的人有抗体
司马懿虎啸龙吟还是什么来着
如果他们这策略成功了，全世界被动陪他们实施这策略？？？我们消灭了这病毒的国家可没有抗体呀
如果英超全部感染，利物浦就是最后一个冠军。我不拿冠军，一拿就拿最后一个。
凡不能将我打倒的必使我更加强大哈哈哈
老外还是强，他们的目光放在 这种病毒对人体的免疫系统 的适应性，短时间来看是自寻死路，长远来看 必定有人活下来的都能对这种病毒产生抗体 适应性 免疫，人类的进化史少不了病毒的折磨 这是一场人体免疫系统 和病毒的较量，能赢下来的虽然不多 少 极少 甚至很低的几率 对于以后对抗这种病毒的时候 就是免疫 ，比喻病毒像现在城市里的空气 一样 农村的人进了城里总难受 进久了就适应了 这是一个过程 环境在恶化，人也得进化 好坏 两个角度分析
原文链接http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-millions-of-britons-will-need-to-contract-covid-19-for-herd-immunity-11956793
应该这么说，是没转重症的都自愈活下来了。
.....祝你好运
能抗过去
这你有啥理解不了，这就是投降呗。。打不过我就投降
物竞天择，适者生存么
刚开始觉得很疯狂，仔细想想，好像真有点道理。日防夜防，病毒难防，如果形成群体免疫，这就是让病毒陷入人民战争。就是这样做，注定有些人被牺牲掉，这在中国是绝对不可能允许的。
到你这咋没音了呢，我还得再听一遍
真不是YY啊，你可以去看英文原版的讲话
就是让大家都感染，活下来的不就获得群体免疫了嘛……
中国官方和民间都在承受着巨大的经济损失
在西方看来这总损失无法令他们接受...
不过在我们看来似乎还好...就是那些因此破产的老板们 也只能叹一声时运不济
没人觉得官方这么做有问题
这也是蛮神奇的事
那你真没必要等辟谣了，不存在的，2 13 英国卫生部长都被感染了，感染前就到她和群众说没病不要带口罩，洗手的时候唱生日快乐歌，结果她先病了，可笑的是就这这么多天了，学校没关闭，大型活动也没禁止，荒唐至极，资本主义真的钱比人健康重要
看这截图好像跟我是同款手机🤨
洗了投票权清零，所以政治家不怕
我现在都觉得这是个玩笑
脱 就硬脱
然而英国并没有如此体量的医疗承受量，医疗系统已崩溃全国玩完儿。所以他们还是在乱搞
其实吧，他们也不是不懂，只不过给美国人当狗腿子当惯了，现在就是想防疫也没能力，美国人又不管狗腿子的死活，他们只能找个更人道的说辞让老百姓接受现实。
一个need to，一个enjoy，一个in order for，我看到sky上这个新闻的时候一度怀疑自己的英语水平
英国6000千万人口会有多少转重症呢？拭目以待。
融合成为冠博拉🐶
这是贺繁星她爸吗？
天空报感觉相当于今日头条吧
这破街还能碰见校友？！代我向中立问好。
如果新冠可以和埃博拉的病毒结合在一起，或者进化出新的后代，既传染率高又死亡率高，卧槽，那估计人类就快完蛋了
不是，是一直疯的
只能禁止这个国家互通了，等研制出来疫苗
http://www.guancha.cn/politics/2020_02_15_536424.shtml
凤凰网被约谈链接
看不懂当我没说
sky news 是正规媒体，不知道你说的官方指的是啥？
是可以的。2月初的时候我就看到有学者写文章，说中国防疫失败会是什么样，就提到了群体免疫，用死亡率来换。
但这是没办法的办法，凡有一定点机会都不能用这个办法，英国看来是躺平了。
艹 每个词都认识 读完忘了前面说的是啥了
反正我不信，一个政府敢这么承认基本没有公信力了
问题是这病年轻人中年人不治疗也会有几率转重症，这种情况下好了也会大概率得后遗症的吧
为了获得抗体从而脱离人类了