Leon O. Chua received the MSEE from Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1961, and the Ph.D. from University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign in 1964. After that he was Assistant and Associate Professor at Purdue University until 1970. He became a Professor of Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at University of California at Berkeley since 1971.
Amy Chua's parents were academics and members of the entrepreneurial Chinese ethnic minority in the Philippines before emigrating to the United States. Amy's father, Leon O. Chua, is an Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences professor at the University of California, Berkeley and is known as the father of nonlinear circuit theory and cellular neural networks. Amy was born in 1962 in Champaign, Illinois and lived in West Lafayette, Indiana. When she was eight years old, her family moved to Berkeley, California. Chua graduated magna cum laude with an A.B. in Economics from Harvard College in 1984. She obtained her J.D. cum laude in 1987 from Harvard Law School, where she was Executive Editor of the Harvard Law Review.
我很喜欢她的风格,honest, down to earth。有时候是要给自以为是的美国人一些lesson,什么叫harsh?中国严厉教育下也没见多少像美国人一样动不动就depress的。It's a crucial world out there, and the best way to prepare the kids for the world is to best lead them to achieve even better than they can think of.
I am Chinese American, born here in the US by immigrants who fit the description for, "tiger parents." For those of you wondering about the end result. I will tell you my experience. We were raised in a cold and hard environment, not allowed to be children, but expected to basically to be monkeys performing to often unreasonable standards. NEVER in my entire life have I received a compliment or positive comment from my parents. It is a constant deluge of criticism, being berated, basically never being good enough (even when we were the top student), not only was there the emotional abuse, but there was also physical abuse. We had no social life. We were booked after school with piano, violin and other extracurricular activities that our parents wanted us to do (with no regard as to whether or not we wanted to do them), all in order to make our college applications look good. We were not allowed to date, not allowed to watch tv unless it was PBS or the news, and we were constantly told, "do not be like stupid Americans." As you can imagine, our childhood was a living hell. When my father would come home from work, instead of greeting him, we would all run upstairs and hide from him. In turn, this would make him more angry that we were, "disrespectful" and he would take out his anger on us (or our mom), usually through more emotional abuse, telling us we were worthless and stupid. Yes, we lived in fear. We did not get good grades or perform well for ourselves, we did so, because we were scared of our parents. We were unhappy, had no self esteem, had hardly any friends.
So, what is the result? I am now in my late 30's, as are my siblings and I still have not recovered from being brought up like this. We were all academically, "successful." We all went on to professional degrees and were pushed into going into fields that our parents wanted. All three of us had different fields we would have preferred, but we were told that they were unacceptable since they were not doctor, engineer or lawyer, the holy trinity of the tiger parent. Are we happy? No, not really, the damaging from the way we were parented still haunt us today. The only good thing that has come out of it, is that I am parenting my children almost 180 degrees opposite from the way I was brought up. Yes, I still have high standards for them, however, I refuse to put my children under the emotional and physical abuse that I had to endure as a child. The only reason we are all married now, is because we rebelled in college and started dating. All of my parents' friends who kids did not date in college, ended up having to deal with parents who turned around after graduation demanding to know why they were married and popping out grandchildren. Yes, the irony, of following what they tell you to do, and then in the end, it's still your fault.
You may wonder what my siblings' and my relationship is like with our parents. It's HORRIBLE. We hate our parents, they still try to control us even though we all have families of our own now, they are just NEVER happy. They are still negative, never satisfied, always comparing us to other people's adult children to try to prove to us that we are not good enough. Even though we did what they told us to, they are still unhappy. Either the college we went to was not good enough, we didn't get a perfect score on the SAT, the specialization in our field of work was not one of high enough status or our house/car aren't nice, enough, they ALWAYS have something to criticize. Now they extend their criticism to the way we are raising our own children and of course our natural reaction is to NOT want to spend time with them, since they are so toxic. My parents are old now, they are upset that we are not close to them. They cannot understand that that the way that the cold, cruel way that they parented basically ruined their relationship with us, instead as usual, they blame us. They say that we are, "bad children," because we do not want to be close to them, and that they have done nothing to make us hate them. I do not know what we will do with my parents when they are too old to care for themselves. NONE of us want to take them in, not because we are unable to, but because they make us miserable and make us feel bad about ourselves, they are toxic. If you feel sorry for my parents feeling abandoned by their adult children, don't be. They were not the type of immigrants who, "sacrificed" to come to this country. My father is from a well-to-do family and is a physician. He would have had a more lucrative career if he stayed in Taiwan.
If you want your children to be academically successful, the tiger parent method may work. HOWEVER, be prepared NOT to have any sort of relationship with your adult children, because they will loathe you when they grow up. My siblings and I have all contemplated just cutting our parents out of our lives, every time we talk or see them, it's a negative experience. It is always about THEIR ego, and what THEY want. They don't care about anyone else, parents like this should never be allowed to have children to begin with, since they just see their children as an extension of their own ego.
She is the eldest of 4 sisters: Michelle, Katrin, and Cynthia. Katrin is a professor at Stanford University.[7] One sister has Down Syndrome and holds two International Special Olympics gold medals in swimming
She is the eldest of 4 sisters: Michelle, Katrin, and Cynthia. Katrin is a professor at Stanford University.[7] One sister has Down Syndrome and holds two International Special Olympics gold medals in swimming
我妈小时候一边打我,一边说,我就是平时对你不够狠,导致你现在这个样子。然后历数周围某某阿姨如何管教儿子,某某叔叔如何管教闺女,blabla
不过我和我妈一直很亲很亲,就像Amy Chua每个家庭都有自己的context,只要不是做的太极端,应该不太会影响到父母和子女的关系
[此贴子已经被作者于2011/1/11 16:33:27编辑过]
yes.
嗯,那sleepover确实会有隐患。我老爹的同学的女儿,就是被她老爹的朋友给强奸了。
学琴的小孩,一天2,3个小时都是少的。小学期间,一天不到4个小时要挨打的。周末周日6-8个。
从来没有vacation
郎朗和李云迪,如果没有家长推,绝对出不来
而且停一天等于停三天,补都补不过来。。除了出门旅游一天都不能落下的。。。
UIUC生,Purdue长。从胎里接受的熏陶就不一样啊。
so his father graduated from uiuc?
而且停一天等于停三天,补都补不过来。。除了出门旅游一天都不能落下的。。。
看来你也被荼毒过了,哈哈
非精英准妈表示鸭梨很大!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
MM太可爱了吧~~~
easy, easy ah... hehe
嗯,那sleepover确实会有隐患。我老爹的同学的女儿,就是被她老爹的朋友给强奸了。
好恐怖。。。。。。
嗯,那sleepover确实会有隐患。我老爹的同学的女儿,就是被她老爹的朋友给强奸了。
按照sleepover的情境,不应该是朋友的老爹吗,为啥是老爹的朋友?
Leon O. Chua received the MSEE from Massachusetts Institute of
Technology in 1961, and the Ph.D. from University of Illinois,
Urbana-Champaign in 1964. After that he was Assistant and Associate
Professor at Purdue University until 1970. He became a Professor of
Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences at University of California
at Berkeley since 1971.
got phd in 3 years.
看来你也被荼毒过了,哈哈
从幼稚园一直被荼毒到出国。。。结果现在想补也补不起来,真的一天都不能落下,我这是亲身体验。。。
按照sleepover的情境,不应该是朋友的老爹吗,为啥是老爹的朋友?
我的意思就是说,连老爹的朋友都不能够知根知底,何况是朋友的老爹呢。就更危险了。
从幼稚园一直被荼毒到出国。。。结果现在想补也补不起来,真的一天都不能落下,我这是亲身体验。。。
就当净化心灵了
从幼稚园一直被荼毒到出国。。。结果现在想补也补不起来,真的一天都不能落下,我这是亲身体验。。。
你再试试。我有个朋友是从小弹到13,4岁。后来死活不肯弹了。再上了大学,忽然又感兴趣了,然后现在弹的非常好,又拾起来了。他说小时后练的苦,后来练的凶。自己开始感兴趣了就是不一样。
我的意思就是说,连老爹的朋友都不能够知根知底,何况是朋友的老爹呢。就更危险了。
妈呀,别吓唬我,我看了law and order,觉得连老爹都不靠谱,老妈也有危险。地球太险恶了
妈呀,别吓唬我,我看了law and order,觉得连老爹都不靠谱,老妈也有危险。地球太险恶了
嗯,嗯,不晓得哪一天才能回到火星阿。
嗯,嗯,不晓得哪一天才能回到火星阿。
当火星充满了地球人的时候,也不安全
读书的时候都矬呢,她保证也不例外!
你再试试。我有个朋友是从小弹到13,4岁。后来死活不肯弹了。再上了大学,忽然又感兴趣了,然后现在弹的非常好,又拾起来了。他说小时后练的苦,后来练的凶。自己开始感兴趣了就是不一样。
我准备买台电的搬回来练
我准备买台电的搬回来练
容我膜拜一下,你会的东西真多啊。长笛贵不,不贵我也买一个装装门面
Amy Chua家世很好的阿
Amy Chua's parents were academics and members of the entrepreneurial Chinese ethnic minority in the Philippines before emigrating to the United States. Amy's father, Leon O. Chua, is an Electrical Engineering and Computer Sciences professor at the University of California, Berkeley and is known as the father of nonlinear circuit theory and cellular neural networks. Amy was born in 1962 in Champaign, Illinois and lived in West Lafayette, Indiana. When she was eight years old, her family moved to Berkeley, California. Chua graduated magna cum laude with an A.B. in Economics from Harvard College in 1984. She obtained her J.D. cum laude in 1987 from Harvard Law School, where she was Executive Editor of the Harvard Law Review.
厉害
我准备买台电的搬回来练
你会的真多,膜拜一下
我很喜欢她的风格,honest, down to earth。有时候是要给自以为是的美国人一些lesson,什么叫harsh?中国严厉教育下也没见多少像美国人一样动不动就depress的。It's a crucial world out there, and the best way to prepare the kids for the world is to best lead them to achieve even better than they can think of.
Totally support this!
容我膜拜一下,你会的东西真多啊。长笛贵不,不贵我也买一个装装门面
我也不知到长笛在这边多少钱。。我从国内带过来的。。craiglist上找找?
我也不知到长笛在这边多少钱。。我从国内带过来的。。craiglist上找找?
别人吹过的不好再用嘴去碰阿,怪恶心的。不过我估计挺贵的,一个个看起来都金灿灿的,拿出去装门面特合适。
也tnnd不是我的茶
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刚刚跑去她网站上看了她的简历,发现她居然是离我很近的一个高中毕业的 EL CERRITO HIGH SCHOOL
EL CERRITO学区非常一般阿,人家怎莫就考上哈佛了呢,也许真如大家所说,好学区竞争激烈,反而不容易上好大学?
可是很奇怪阿,她父母既然这末重视教育,为什莫不在EL CERRITO旁边的ALBANY买房子呢?ALBANY高中900多分,虽说房子比EL CERRITO贵些,为了他们家那末多孩子也值了阿?
都是宇宙无敌大美女+大帅哥阿阿阿阿阿阿阿
羡慕嫉妒恨的飘
犹太人到底长啥样啊?分辨不出来。。
b鼻子 參見生活大爆炸里那個色鬼
快快,谁给我这个孤陋寡闻的科普一下,这个amy chua牛美女教授到底是她妈妈是TIGER MOM, 还是她自己是啊?
刚刚跑去她网站上看了她的简历,发现她居然是离我很近的一个高中毕业的 EL CERRITO HIGH SCHOOL
EL CERRITO学区非常一般阿,人家怎莫就考上哈佛了呢,也许真如大家所说,好学区竞争激烈,反而不容易上好大学?
可是很奇怪阿,她父母既然这末重视教育,为什莫不在EL CERRITO旁边的ALBANY买房子呢?ALBANY高中900多分,虽说房子比EL CERRITO贵些,为了他们家那末多孩子也值了阿?
她自己她妈妈都是tiger mom。
也许没钱。 四个孩子都学乐器,都有运动教练的话,就光这点也会是很大一笔钱吧。不懂,随便说说。
别人吹过的不好再用嘴去碰阿,怪恶心的。不过我估计挺贵的,一个个看起来都金灿灿的,拿出去装门面特合适。
不会吹的话怎么装门面啊 ?
这个动作在老外中很常见,国人也没必要枉自菲薄
老外常見就是decent得習慣?看不懂邏輯
還有‘妄自菲薄’用這裡不合適吧
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以下是引用Anniemama在1/11/2011 6:00:00 PM的发言:
快快,谁给我这个孤陋寡闻的科普一下,这个amy chua牛美女教授到底是她妈妈是TIGER MOM, 还是她自己是啊?
刚刚跑去她网站上看了她的简历,发现她居然是离我很近的一个高中毕业的 EL CERRITO HIGH SCHOOL
EL CERRITO学区非常一般阿,人家怎莫就考上哈佛了呢,也许真如大家所说,好学区竞争激烈,反而不容易上好大学?
可是很奇怪阿,她父母既然这末重视教育,为什莫不在EL CERRITO旁边的ALBANY买房子呢?ALBANY高中900多分,虽说房子比EL CERRITO贵些,为了他们家那末多孩子也值了阿?
她自己她妈妈都是tiger mom。
也许没钱。 四个孩子都学乐器,都有运动教练的话,就光这点也会是很大一笔钱吧。不懂,随便说说。
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谢谢妹妹回答
前边楼里看到说自己的父母太严厉以至他们和父母都关系不好没有爱只有恨,所以要用180度大转弯的方法对待自己的孩子,是她写的吗?如果是,怎莫自己也对孩子这个苛求了呢?
如果是为了音乐和运动教练而宁愿呆在较差的学区,这父母的思维真和一般中国父母不大一样呢
-- 作者:yshe
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她自己她妈妈都是tiger mom。
也许没钱。 四个孩子都学乐器,都有运动教练的话,就光这点也会是很大一笔钱吧。不懂,随便说说。
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谢谢妹妹回答
前边楼里看到说自己的父母太严厉以至他们和父母都关系不好没有爱只有恨,所以要用180度大转弯的方法对待自己的孩子,是她写的吗?如果是,怎莫自己也对孩子这个苛求了呢?
如果是为了音乐和运动教练而宁愿呆在较差的学区,这父母的思维真和一般中国父母不大一样呢
不是她写的。她爸妈对她就很严厉,她觉得很好。所以她也这样对她的女儿们了。
不过她老公起到了一定的balanced的作用。所以她可能比她爸妈less harsh一点。
不会吹的话怎么装门面啊?
拿在手上,金灿灿的,已经很装了。
她是哈佛的本科加jd啊,英文写成这样不是应该的嘛。
我不喜欢她这篇文章,不过貌似很火啊,我看另一个学者聚集的英文网站也在讨论她这个文章呢。
I have better impression of her after watching the msnbc's video clip.
牛的方面,庄甩Ting几大街。。。。
rerere
快快,谁给我这个孤陋寡闻的科普一下,这个amy chua牛美女教授到底是她妈妈是TIGER MOM, 还是她自己是啊?
刚刚跑去她网站上看了她的简历,发现她居然是离我很近的一个高中毕业的 EL CERRITO HIGH SCHOOL
EL CERRITO学区非常一般阿,人家怎莫就考上哈佛了呢,也许真如大家所说,好学区竞争激烈,反而不容易上好大学?
可是很奇怪阿,她父母既然这末重视教育,为什莫不在EL CERRITO旁边的ALBANY买房子呢?ALBANY高中900多分,虽说房子比EL CERRITO贵些,为了他们家那末多孩子也值了阿?
牛的家庭教育+牛的基因,人家在那读中学都能上名校。
-- 作者:yshe
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她自己她妈妈都是tiger mom。
也许没钱。 四个孩子都学乐器,都有运动教练的话,就光这点也会是很大一笔钱吧。不懂,随便说说。
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谢谢妹妹回答
前边楼里看到说自己的父母太严厉以至他们和父母都关系不好没有爱只有恨,所以要用180度大转弯的方法对待自己的孩子,是她写的吗?如果是,怎莫自己也对孩子这个苛求了呢?
如果是为了音乐和运动教练而宁愿呆在较差的学区,这父母的思维真和一般中国父母不大一样呢
那个是读者写的。。
我觉得应该从北美幼儿园的精英开始看起,幼儿园精英,小学精英,中学精英,大学精英以此分类,一个阶段一个阶段的精英都拿出来看看。
哈哈,估计能看出个pattern......然后回家看看自己的娃,决定要不要砸钱去private school
chua是什么姓啊?
好象是蔡.
嗯,那sleepover确实会有隐患。我老爹的同学的女儿,就是被她老爹的朋友给强奸了。
妈呀,别吓唬我,我看了law and order,觉得连老爹都不靠谱,老妈也有危险。地球太险恶了
俺也来表示一下鸭梨狠大!!!俺家大只佬一向是要他往东他往西,要他打狗他撵鸡,还神马医学院啊,法学院啊,都是浮云!!浮云!!!!!!!
hahahaha,我这个还在肚子里就已经坏透了!!!!!!!!!55555555555
今年的鸭梨特别大!!!!!!!!!!!!
我要严重歪下楼,偶爱上庄晓薇很多年了啊!!!第一次看到她是中央台搞的那个系列节目——————世界著名大学,她那时还在斯坦福读博士吧,接受了采访的,偶想这MM好书卷好文静啊,一看就是好孩子,心中好羡慕啊。。。偶是文科生,数学一直不好~~~今上午看到这帖子,猛然惊醒,虽然庄变大妈样了,但还是很崇拜她。。。中午老公回家向他提起庄晓薇,他说前不久还来过加州理工做讲座,确实是很牛的,现在已经是哈佛化学和物理的教授了。。。哎。。。!!!其实,(我不是BSO哈,绝不是),老公一直在我心中也挺牛的,当年拿到加州理工和MIT的双OFFER上浙大校园十大了,毕竟不比北大清华的,浙大十年出了一个双offer,当时想----老子找到牛人了啊!!!在小薇面前,我问老公和她差距有多少,老公直白:地球到月球。。。 老子幻灭了啊!!!!!!!看来偶文科生一枚,对科学界的人物确实不了解。。。算了。。。
5555555555,老子没有找到牛人,泪奔
看了msnbc链接中的第一个回复,是以孩子的角度来看tiger mother的。我觉得还听恐怖的,转过来
I am Chinese American, born here in the US by
immigrants who fit the description for, "tiger parents." For those of
you wondering about the end result. I will tell you my experience. We
were raised in a cold and hard environment, not allowed to be children,
but expected to basically to be monkeys performing to often unreasonable
standards. NEVER in my entire life have I received a compliment or
positive comment from my parents. It is a constant deluge of criticism,
being berated, basically never being good enough (even when we were the
top student), not only was there the emotional abuse, but there was
also physical abuse. We had no social life. We were booked after
school with piano, violin and other extracurricular activities that our
parents wanted us to do (with no regard as to whether or not we wanted
to do them), all in order to make our college applications look good.
We were not allowed to date, not allowed to watch tv unless it was PBS
or the news, and we were constantly told, "do not be like stupid
Americans." As you can imagine, our childhood was a living hell. When
my father would come home from work, instead of greeting him, we would
all run upstairs and hide from him. In turn, this would make him more
angry that we were, "disrespectful" and he would take out his anger on
us (or our mom), usually through more emotional abuse, telling us we
were worthless and stupid. Yes, we lived in fear. We did not get good
grades or perform well for ourselves, we did so, because we were scared
of our parents. We were unhappy, had no self esteem, had hardly any
friends.
So, what is the result? I am now in my late 30's, as are my siblings
and I still have not recovered from being brought up like this. We
were all academically, "successful." We all went on to professional
degrees and were pushed into going into fields that our parents wanted.
All three of us had different fields we would have preferred, but we
were told that they were unacceptable since they were not doctor,
engineer or lawyer, the holy trinity of the tiger parent. Are we happy?
No, not really, the damaging from the way we were parented still haunt
us today. The only good thing that has come out of it, is that I am
parenting my children almost 180 degrees opposite from the way I was
brought up. Yes, I still have high standards for them, however, I
refuse to put my children under the emotional and physical abuse that I
had to endure as a child. The only reason we are all married now, is
because we rebelled in college and started dating. All of my parents'
friends who kids did not date in college, ended up having to deal with
parents who turned around after graduation demanding to know why they
were married and popping out grandchildren. Yes, the irony, of
following what they tell you to do, and then in the end, it's still your
fault.
You may wonder what my siblings' and my relationship is like with our
parents. It's HORRIBLE. We hate our parents, they still try to
control us even though we all have families of our own now, they are
just NEVER happy. They are still negative, never satisfied, always
comparing us to other people's adult children to try to prove to us that
we are not good enough. Even though we did what they told us to, they
are still unhappy. Either the college we went to was not good enough,
we didn't get a perfect score on the SAT, the specialization in our
field of work was not one of high enough status or our house/car aren't
nice, enough, they ALWAYS have something to criticize. Now they extend
their criticism to the way we are raising our own children and of course
our natural reaction is to NOT want to spend time with them, since they
are so toxic.
My parents are old now, they are upset that we are not close to them.
They cannot understand that that the way that the cold, cruel way that
they parented basically ruined their relationship with us, instead as
usual, they blame us. They say that we are, "bad children," because we
do not want to be close to them, and that they have done nothing to make
us hate them. I do not know what we will do with my parents when they
are too old to care for themselves. NONE of us want to take them in,
not because we are unable to, but because they make us miserable and
make us feel bad about ourselves, they are toxic. If you feel sorry for
my parents feeling abandoned by their adult children, don't be. They
were not the type of immigrants who, "sacrificed" to come to this
country. My father is from a well-to-do family and is a physician. He
would have had a more lucrative career if he stayed in Taiwan.
If you want your children to be academically successful, the tiger
parent method may work. HOWEVER, be prepared NOT to have any sort of
relationship with your adult children, because they will loathe you when
they grow up. My siblings and I have all contemplated just cutting our
parents out of our lives, every time we talk or see them, it's a
negative experience. It is always about THEIR ego, and what THEY want.
They don't care about anyone else, parents like this should never be
allowed to have children to begin with, since they just see their
children as an extension of their own ego.
其实我们从小在中国长大的,就像Amy姐说的,觉得对父母永远是歉疚的,而且整个中国的教育就是孝顺父母。父母要求严格并不是子女怨恨父母的理由,我们当时写了多少歌颂严格父母的作文啊。在美国就不一样了
快快,谁给我这个孤陋寡闻的科普一下,这个amy chua牛美女教授到底是她妈妈是TIGER MOM, 还是她自己是啊?
刚刚跑去她网站上看了她的简历,发现她居然是离我很近的一个高中毕业的 EL CERRITO HIGH SCHOOL
EL CERRITO学区非常一般阿,人家怎莫就考上哈佛了呢,也许真如大家所说,好学区竞争激烈,反而不容易上好大学?
可是很奇怪阿,她父母既然这末重视教育,为什莫不在EL CERRITO旁边的ALBANY买房子呢?ALBANY高中900多分,虽说房子比EL CERRITO贵些,为了他们家那末多孩子也值了阿?
同学,那是20年以前,情况是不是不一样呢?
好象是蔡.
tsai是蔡,这个chua我不知道
我要严重歪下楼,偶爱上庄晓薇很多年了啊!!!第一次看到她是中央台搞的那个系列节目——————世界著名大学,她那时还在斯坦福读博士吧,接受了采访的,偶想这MM好书卷好文静啊,一看就是好孩子,心中好羡慕啊。。。偶是文科生,数学一直不好~~~今上午看到这帖子,猛然惊醒,虽然庄变大妈样了,但还是很崇拜她。。。中午老公回家向他提起庄晓薇,他说前不久还来过加州理工做讲座,确实是很牛的,现在已经是哈佛化学和物理的教授了。。。哎。。。!!!其实,(我不是BSO哈,绝不是),老公一直在我心中也挺牛的,当年拿到加州理工和MIT的双OFFER上浙大校园十大了,毕竟不比北大清华的,浙大十年出了一个双offer,当时想----老子找到牛人了啊!!!在小薇面前,我问老公和她差距有多少,老公直白:地球到月球。。。 老子幻灭了啊!!!!!!!看来偶文科生一枚,对科学界的人物确实不了解。。。算了。。。
这变成bso劳工的帖子了
tsai是蔡,这个chua我不知道
查?
当你成了精英,自然也有她这般气质。工作需要你修饰自己,以及工作后的经历都会把人琢磨成这样。最重要的是很有钱了。
读书的时候都矬呢,她保证也不例外!
r e
以下是引用mira在1/11/2011 3:12:00 PM的发言:
呵呵,我觉得好像特别牛的还真不见长的巨丑的,可能是气质撑起来啦?
赖斯
re, 不是我喜欢的长相。
mitbbs上的人说 那个男的在学校和女学生搞不清楚,整个耶鲁法学院的人都知道。
问题是买卖体上yale法学院的一共能有几个人啊,这么暴光也不怕把自己给绕进去
查?
我搜了一下,居然也是蔡,叫蔡美儿
re, 不是我喜欢的长相。
mitbbs上的人说 那个男的在学校和女学生搞不清楚,整个耶鲁法学院的人都知道。
那人随口一说。。。。。。
我觉得牛人未必就比普通人累,取得一定成就的 多数是在自己真心喜欢的领域,牛人们都自个乐在其中,又不用为生计操心,说不定乐趣比普通人大得多
哎呀,大家周围都没有长得憨厚点的非精英look的精英么?好像小Bush算一个。。。。
那个哈利王子非常憨厚呀,真是土土的~
她妹妹们也很厉害阿
She is the eldest of 4 sisters: Michelle, Katrin, and Cynthia. Katrin is a professor at Stanford University.[7] One sister has Down Syndrome and holds two International Special Olympics gold medals in swimming
佩服啊,down syndrome 都没落下,也给培养成精英了
i will never allow sleepovers.
那个哈利王子非常憨厚呀,真是土土的~
哈哈,顶小布什。。。
那人随口一说。。。。。。
这种事情怎么能随便说呢,太不付责任了
快快,谁给我这个孤陋寡闻的科普一下,这个amy chua牛美女教授到底是她妈妈是TIGER MOM, 还是她自己是啊?
刚刚跑去她网站上看了她的简历,发现她居然是离我很近的一个高中毕业的 EL CERRITO HIGH SCHOOL
EL CERRITO学区非常一般阿,人家怎莫就考上哈佛了呢,也许真如大家所说,好学区竞争激烈,反而不容易上好大学?
可是很奇怪阿,她父母既然这末重视教育,为什莫不在EL CERRITO旁边的ALBANY买房子呢?ALBANY高中900多分,虽说房子比EL CERRITO贵些,为了他们家那末多孩子也值了阿?
这个学区分数不是她上学那时候的吧?
以下是引用mira在1/11/2011 3:12:00 PM的发言:
呵呵,我觉得好像特别牛的还真不见长的巨丑的,可能是气质撑起来啦?
赖斯
她真是不好看,但是人很有气势。the "look" alone is overrated.
re, 不是我喜欢的长相。
mitbbs上的人说 那个男的在学校和女学生搞不清楚,整个耶鲁法学院的人都知道。
阿,那个美女教授的老公吗?
水土和culture--气质、神态、姿态、面部肌肉等
而且从小以英文为母语的话,面部肌肉的运动方式不同。
我觉得牛人未必就比普通人累,取得一定成就的 多数是在自己真心喜欢的领域,牛人们都自个乐在其中,又不用为生计操心,说不定乐趣比普通人大得多
re
我要严重歪下楼,偶爱上庄晓薇很多年了啊!!!第一次看到她是中央台搞的那个系列节目——————世界著名大学,她那时还在斯坦福读博士吧,接受了采访的,偶想这MM好书卷好文静啊,一看就是好孩子,心中好羡慕啊。。。偶是文科生,数学一直不好~~~今上午看到这帖子,猛然惊醒,虽然庄变大妈样了,但还是很崇拜她。。。中午老公回家向他提起庄晓薇,他说前不久还来过加州理工做讲座,确实是很牛的,现在已经是哈佛化学和物理的教授了。。。哎。。。!!!其实,(我不是BSO哈,绝不是),老公一直在我心中也挺牛的,当年拿到加州理工和MIT的双OFFER上浙大校园十大了,毕竟不比北大清华的,浙大十年出了一个双offer,当时想----老子找到牛人了啊!!!在小薇面前,我问老公和她差距有多少,老公直白:地球到月球。。。 老子幻灭了啊!!!!!!!看来偶文科生一枚,对科学界的人物确实不了解。。。算了。。。
Xiaowei 姐姐现在还是很有气质的,她是我见过的中国人中英语最好的。
这个太搞笑了。不要说你lg一个学生,全美top学校faculty,Xiaowei 姐姐都甩好多人N条街呢。我觉得她是我知道的女faculty当中最牛的,中国faculty这个年龄段最牛的。
BTW,我和Xiaowei 姐姐没任何交集,只是很崇拜罢了。
Xiaowei 姐姐现在还是很有气质的,她是我见过的中国人中英语最好的。
这个太搞笑了。不要说你lg一个学生,全美top学校faculty,Xiaowei 姐姐都甩好多人N条街呢。我觉得她是我知道的女faculty当中最牛的,中国faculty这个年龄段最牛的。
BTW,我和Xiaowei 姐姐没任何交集,只是很崇拜罢了。
恩恩恩,偶无知咯~~~
这下惨了,ta中国妈妈都要被叫成tiger mother了,不就是母老虎吗!
昨天就被美国人开玩笑叫tiger mother。我真冤
恩恩恩,偶无知咯~~~
别这么说。俺觉的你老公双offer,真的是非常非常非常牛的。
怎么长了个小三样。唉。
Xiaowei 姐姐现在还是很有气质的,她是我见过的中国人中英语最好的。
这个太搞笑了。不要说你lg一个学生,全美top学校faculty,Xiaowei 姐姐都甩好多人N条街呢。我觉得她是我知道的女faculty当中最牛的,中国faculty这个年龄段最牛的。
BTW,我和Xiaowei 姐姐没任何交集,只是很崇拜罢了。
庄晓薇也应该是TIGER妈妈的产品吧.从小就推着离家上少年班.牺牲小我,成就大我,赶着为人类作贡献.可是个人生活完全的没有或者COLLAPSE了.
这个动作在老外中很常见,国人也没必要枉自菲薄
她不是abc她是土生土长中国人phd再去米国的
庄晓薇也应该是TIGER妈妈的产品吧.从小就推着离家上少年班.牺牲小我,成就大我,赶着为人类作贡献.可是个人生活完全的没有或者COLLAPSE了.
恩,几年前离婚了
庄晓薇也应该是TIGER妈妈的产品吧.从小就推着离家上少年班.牺牲小我,成就大我,赶着为人类作贡献.可是个人生活完全的没有或者COLLAPSE了.
她也结过婚啊。离了。
只能说很少有男人愿意做成功女人背后的男人吧。这和她家庭无关。
她妹妹们也很厉害阿
She is the eldest of 4 sisters: Michelle, Katrin, and Cynthia. Katrin is a professor at Stanford University.[7] One sister has Down Syndrome and holds two International Special Olympics gold medals in swimming
唐氏综合症的表现是智力底下吗?
庄晓薇也应该是TIGER妈妈的产品吧.从小就推着离家上少年班.牺牲小我,成就大我,赶着为人类作贡献.可是个人生活完全的没有或者COLLAPSE了.
俺觉的research能做到她那水平,已经不是什么天才阿,推妈啊的问题。人家估计是有很大的passion,所以估计生活幸福着呢,家庭得靠后站了。
唐氏综合症的表现是智力底下吗?
嗯,是的。估计跟阿甘差不多。
俺觉的research能做到她那水平,已经不是什么天才阿,推妈啊的问题。人家估计是有很大的passion,所以估计生活幸福着呢,家庭得靠后站了。
re
人家精神生活估计比咱这种晚上灌水的要满足多了。
我知道比较牛的都是很enjoy research 的,人家一点都不觉得苦。
俺觉的research能做到她那水平,已经不是什么天才阿,推妈啊的问题。人家估计是有很大的passion,所以估计生活幸福着呢,家庭得靠后站了。
是啊,但是她的那种享受不是一般人能够承担的.她在她的地位上应该是很幸福的,因为那就是她想要的.但是各人有各人的生活,她的位置白送给华人上磕瓜子灌水的普通妇女,大家也估计都不伸手.
是啊,但是她的那种享受不是一般人能够承担的.她在她的地位上应该是很幸福的,因为那就是她想要的.但是各人有各人的生活,她的位置白送给华人上磕瓜子灌水的普通妇女,大家也估计都不伸手.
那个那个,我还是很想试一试的。当然可能两天后被人发现劳累过度,猝死于实验室。