sorry cannot type chinese here..... it happens on my coworker family too, they went to visit their neighbors as usual and the neighbor's baby felt down from the bed by accident. My coworker drove the neighbors and the baby to go to the hospital and everythng was fine in the beginning. The next day, social workers went to my coworker's house and took their daughter away (4 months) and suspected them abuse the neighbor's infant and their own daughter. Everything went so sudden, and the poor baby was so small to take away from parents. Fortunately they are getting the baby back, however they really had a hard time to fight with the social workers.
以下是引用honeybearbear在9/16/2010 9:29:00 AM的发言： sorry cannot type chinese here..... it happens on my coworker family too, they went to visit their neighbors as usual and the neighbor's baby felt down from the bed by accident. My coworker drove the neighbors and the baby to go to the hospital and everythng was fine in the beginning. The next day, social workers went to my coworker's house and took their daughter away (4 months) and suspected them abuse the neighbor's infant and their own daughter. Everything went so sudden, and the poor baby was so small to take away from parents. Fortunately they are getting the baby back, however they really had a hard time to fight with the social workers. my goodness, where is that? I hate those kind of social workers then.
sorry cannot type chinese here..... it happens on my coworker family too, they went to visit their neighbors as usual and the neighbor's baby felt down from the bed by accident. My coworker drove the neighbors and the baby to go to the hospital and everythng was fine in the beginning. The next day, social workers went to my coworker's house and took their daughter away (4 months) and suspected them abuse the neighbor's infant and their own daughter. Everything went so sudden, and the poor baby was so small to take away from parents. Fortunately they are getting the baby back, however they really had a hard time to fight with the social workers.
以下是引用honeybearbear在9/16/2010 9:29:00 AM的发言： sorry cannot type chinese here..... it happens on my coworker family too, they went to visit their neighbors as usual and the neighbor's baby felt down from the bed by accident. My coworker drove the neighbors and the baby to go to the hospital and everythng was fine in the beginning. The next day, social workers went to my coworker's house and took their daughter away (4 months) and suspected them abuse the neighbor's infant and their own daughter. Everything went so sudden, and the poor baby was so small to take away from parents. Fortunately they are getting the baby back, however they really had a hard time to fight with the social workers. 为什么会是你的同事有问题？不应该是邻居的问题吗？
在floria的帮助下，以及过去的两天向当事人了解的情况，lz重新整理了事情经过以及更新。更多的进展会陆续贴出来。
事情经过：
宝宝（12个半月）从床上滚下来，摔倒了右边额头，事发当时宝宝的父母都在客厅，就离开了他一分钟，谁也没看见宝宝是怎么从床上摔下来的。头部伤痕不大明显，但是父母依然赶紧抱上娃冲到医院。ct检查后，发现脑部 有一丝血丝。医生说要看specilist,由于我们这边地方小，没有儿科的specilist，立马医院派救护车送去了省城，省城的 specilist不断询问事情经过，父母如实交待，但是医生坚持说以他的行医经验，他们叙述的床的高度掉下来是不可能摔成那样的。 然后他们被安排在重护病房观察了4天。其间并无实质性治疗，只是反复抽血化验，给宝宝挂葡萄糖水。事实上宝宝早就能自己喝水了，并且哭闹，不愿意打针。4天内，医生不断说服父母，告诉他们希望其承认错误，这样就能带走小孩。但父母觉得事有蹊跷，没有做的事情不能乱承认，就没有答应。4天后，宝宝就被带走，并且父母收到指控，说虐待小孩。16日 听证会举行，医生摆出很多证据，并且称小孩诊 断为颅内膜出血以及视网膜后出血，以其专业的行医经验，小孩摔跤是不可能造成如此后果的，只有可能是虐待造成，并且语气非常绝对。本来很多当事人夫妇的朋 友赶来听证会作证，来到以后，当事人发现事情复杂程度超乎预计之中，害怕未经过精心准备的朋友们会掉入对方律师圈套，所以我方暂未有人出庭作证。由于以前 没有任何不良纪录，而且爸爸妈妈带宝宝跑医院也跑得很勤，所以法官还是很通情达理的，把这起案件划分到民事案件中。下一次听证会定在10月。
另外，flora帮lz补充了更加细节的情况在588楼：
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?boardid=333&topicid=805684&page=1&star=59
医生的情况：上网查，此医生是child abuse expert！这 个医生在宝宝刚入院的时候对父母说，事情不严重，宝宝马上就可以出院，没什么，而且反复说，爸爸妈妈当然是很担心小孩，不断要求治疗，害怕病情发展严 重，但是此医生坚持说没什么，马上可以出院。。同医院的几名住院医生护士（基本上是所有）也认为没有太大问题，都对他们说没什么，这个小孩摔了 这样正常。医生前后出现很多矛盾的地方，在医院说没什么，不严 重，很快出院，后面庭上说很严重等等。并且该医生凭借自己是专家，并不采纳同院其他医生的意见，而是在诊断书里说这是会诊结果。
当事人夫妇的情况：爸爸为phd第五年学生，妈妈f2专带小孩。妈妈为了怀孩子，精心准备一整年时间，读了无数的相关书籍，孩子生下来以后夫妻俩经常带着他到play ground玩，这几乎是所有认识他们家的朋友都知道的都看得见的。妈妈平时为人非常热情，乐于助人，对抚养教育小孩研究颇深，并且非常细心观察宝宝一举一动，研究宝宝心理等等。当事人夫妇是一对非常爱孩子的典型中国家长。
小孩的情况：现在还是在foster family，白人家庭，听不懂英文，无法交流。当事人夫妇的朋友们正在申请领回宝宝到自己家中。
截至18日进展：当事人已经联系了本地排名第三的律师，正在排名第一的律师那里排队，希望通过律师能拿到一切medical record，以及申请另外专家会诊；已经联系了当地华人教会的牧师，这个牧师是美国人，妻子是中国人，他能理解 中美文化差异，正在向法庭提出要求与他们交流，并且也通过教会四处打听其他能帮的方面，比如医院方面，律师方面等等；经过反复商议，当事人夫妇还是保留联 系大使馆，不希望惊动国内年迈的父母。
目前收到很多有帮助的建议，当事人非常感激大家帮助，也希望大家能继续提供宝贵意见。
另外，有很多jms提出向他们捐款，lz正在和当事人联系商议捐款细节，完成后联系斑斑，再公布给大家。
再次感谢各位的祝福与帮助！
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sept.19 noon update:
lz今早收到当事人关于捐款的回复。当事人告知周一将确定聘请的律师，就目前他们的情况和证据，衡量需要的费用,如果不是太多，比如几百或一两千，他们可以自己承担。如果超出承受范围，再来考虑捐款，所以目前暂时hold donation。他们再次表示对各位由衷的感谢！！ lz会及时向大家汇报进展，如若需要，和联系斑斑召集捐款。谢谢！！
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sept.21 update:
lz昨晚和当事人通电话，被告知他们已经拿到了medical report，里面有右边身体多处组织有摔跌的痕迹，能辨别出事发有小孩有摔倒的右侧着地的动作。另外他们联系了两个律师，第一个说这个case很小，很好解决，估价1500 ，这个还是在没有给他出具medical report的情况下；第二个律师说，这个case很大，非常复杂，给他看medical report，他看都没看，估价5000，而且两名律师都说要再找第二个医生鉴定，并且这二个医生的出庭费需要当事人自付。现在当事人很confused，不知道要相信哪位律师。于是他们又约了一名律师于今天见面，听听这第三个律师的建议。
lz不知道这些个律师的操作，比如第一律师会不会故意说的很少钱，让他们聘请他，然后再一点点加价钱；又或者第二个律师故意说得很恐怖，以此。。。我们这帮学生实在是对这个江湖没有头绪，请内行人指点。。。
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sept.29 update:
当事人已经敲定了一个非常好的律师，此律师以前是我们学校医学院的教授，然后转行做律师，专门作类似的case 近20年了。此律师说这件案子可能不是那么容易的，必须的非常好的准备。目前我们已经在网上查到了相关医学领域关于这个小孩撞击引起颅内膜出血的最新研究进展文章，也确实有报道说一般的摔跤可以导致类似情况，当事人也已经联系了写文章以及文章提到的有关专家，幸运的是有个专家就在离我们不远芝加哥。现在律师正在和专家方面做准备。另一方面，律师叮嘱当事人不要再传这件事情了，因为我们这里太小，很容易就传来传去传出个出入来。所以最近lz也较为"低调"，下次更新将在10月下旬第二次听证会后，报告大家事情进展情况。还是需要大家的bless,但愿他们下次听证会就能解决此事，接回宝宝。
关于经济方面，当事人决定委托这个律师的时候，这个律师说至少至少需要15k,而且要先交上5k才开始正式接ｃａｓｅ工作。当晚当事人和ｌｚ联系决定正式开始组织募捐活动。因为学生真得很穷，他们还是一个人ｆ１，第一个５ｋ还是找导师借的。所幸周围的老师朋友都很帮忙。尔后，当事人听律师嘱咐，不想要太多ｆｏｃｕｓ，决定还是ｈｏｌｄ这个捐款，如果这次听证会能解决，他们借的钱能搞定，就用借的钱好了。再次衷心感谢版主的大力支持,以及这么多好心妈妈们的关心和祈祷!
关于宝宝，爸爸妈妈已经和宝宝见过３次了。宝宝似乎已经习惯了，（感叹以下小孩超强的适应力）。目前爸爸妈妈全力以赴备战下一次听证会。
大家帮我们多敲敲吧：
差点忘记说了，正是的medical report也拿到了，上面还有宝宝右半身组织有撞击摔倒的痕迹，表明宝宝摔倒是右半身先着地的。。
另外加上flora的update,http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?boardid=333&topicid=805684&page=1&star=65
刚刚又仔细爬了楼，inferno,ggbreeze，花花妞，begonia,blue2010 等等，就不一一列举了，lz,当事人夫妇，以及当事人夫妇身边的朋友们，对mm们的理解，支持，建议，祝福，感激之情无以言表！！
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10月13日更新：
昨天晚上收到当事人夫妇的email，告知宝宝昨天已经回来了，case dismiss。 lz看到email很高兴，马上打电话给他们，知道宝宝一切都好，整个事情全部结束，共花费＄5000。 他们正在enjoy 刚刚团聚的快乐，lz也不便再多打扰，等下次见面再详细聊。。
今天正要来更新，看到已经有mm问起来。刚好看到flora的帖子，她今天见到他们，比我知道得还详细，这里应用她的：
http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?boardid=333&topicid=817549&page=0&star=3
谢天谢地，总算一切都恢复正轨。大家家里得safety还是要多多注意，省掉不必要的麻烦。祝每个宝宝都健康快乐！！
最后谢谢一切关心过我们的朋友，谢谢家小妈妈们的祝福，就说了，家小的bless最灵了！
另外附上孩子爸爸亲自写的经历细节：
http://www.unknownspace.org/article_t/indiana/31232389.html
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/10/14 0:20:43编辑过]
看到就生气得不行。那些人以为他们是什么东西啊。什么证据都没有就把孩子带走了。
再说一遍，这样的人真该拉去千刀万剐，让他们尝尝骨肉分离的滋味
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/9/16 8:34:07编辑过]
那个医生难道有认证物证？还是说只要告，随便告，难道都行？？
有这么多的朋友作证，而且那些人很有经验，听你说话就能听出来你是不是真的爱孩子，相信这个朋友不会有问题。
哪跟哪呀？ 好无耻呀。
是不是因为好多美国人不能生 才老这样把小孩抱走。
看电影刮痧也是看的稀里哗啦的。
那么多真正不理孩子不管孩子的他们不管，
反而自以为是地去折腾认认真真带娃的父母，
如果真对娃不好，从床上摔下来才不会带去医院呢。
sorry cannot type chinese here..... it happens on my coworker family too, they went to visit their neighbors as usual and the neighbor's baby felt down from the bed by accident. My coworker drove the neighbors and the baby to go to the hospital and everythng was fine in the beginning. The next day, social workers went to my coworker's house and took their daughter away (4 months) and suspected them abuse the neighbor's infant and their own daughter. Everything went so sudden, and the poor baby was so small to take away from parents. Fortunately they are getting the baby back, however they really had a hard time to fight with the social workers.
my goodness, where is that? I hate those kind of social workers then.
BLESS
sorry cannot type chinese here..... it happens on my coworker family too, they went to visit their neighbors as usual and the neighbor's baby felt down from the bed by accident. My coworker drove the neighbors and the baby to go to the hospital and everythng was fine in the beginning. The next day, social workers went to my coworker's house and took their daughter away (4 months) and suspected them abuse the neighbor's infant and their own daughter. Everything went so sudden, and the poor baby was so small to take away from parents. Fortunately they are getting the baby back, however they really had a hard time to fight with the social workers.
邻居是中国人还是美国人？social worker是不时歧视？
每次听到美国这样的事，就tmd想骂人。被这帮吃饱了撑着的人一折腾，宝宝，父母，社工没有一方是winner。
\\魅力不够看不到
你让你的朋友赶紧找律师，光证人有时候没用的。
bless, bless, bless.
每次听到美国这样的事，就tmd想骂人。被这帮吃饱了撑着的人一折腾，宝宝，父母，社工没有一方是winner。
social workers are winners, they got their funding based on the cases they worked on
bless...
你让你的朋友赶紧找律师，光证人有时候没用的。
re。赶快找律师。头疼啊，大家小心啊。
强烈要求曝光医院医生，这种地方不要去了。当地人可以组织一下去医院门口举牌示威。
是啊, 能不能再在其他地方发贴, 组织到人去示威啊, 如果我和你一个地方, 我也去!难以想象这样活生生就把孩子抢走!
Bless！bless！
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/9/16 11:15:59编辑过]
sorry cannot type chinese here..... it happens on my coworker family too, they went to visit their neighbors as usual and the neighbor's baby felt down from the bed by accident. My coworker drove the neighbors and the baby to go to the hospital and everythng was fine in the beginning. The next day, social workers went to my coworker's house and took their daughter away (4 months) and suspected them abuse the neighbor's infant and their own daughter. Everything went so sudden, and the poor baby was so small to take away from parents. Fortunately they are getting the baby back, however they really had a hard time to fight with the social workers.
为什么会是你的同事有问题？不应该是邻居的问题吗？
美国这一点 的确让人气愤！一个中国妈妈说，一次儿子做错事，她说要打pp,小男孩马上说要报警（刚从学校学的），妈妈吓坏了，怕孩子被带走。
bless your friend.