the 2nd is hard to live in the real world. 她需要有一个不需要worry的生活，需要有一个在学业上能支持赏识提供他研究环境的老板。这对于不会社交的她，可能需要运气了 不是有很多人没有这样的运气，还在一团糟的生活中执着追求的，对他的家人可能是个痛苦，作为外人，我还是很敬佩他们。
Hehe, I personally like the second girl a lot! She seems have the great potential to be an excellent researcher--patience, determination, and focus. I can totally imagine that the second girl has no interest in family background, make-up, or no answers for those common questions--simply because those do not matter to her at all. I agree that she needs to learn some social skill, which in my mind is easy to learn when she's ready. The first girl is kind of Average Joe in comparison, I feel. I'm not so confident that she would easily learn the essence to do excellent research--there are all the distractions around. Maybe she'll be a good leader.
All above are based on the goal I'm imagining--finding a potential researcher. I guess the university diversifies what candidates they 're looking for.
BTW, want to thank you for one of your past post. I wanted quitting my job very badly after my little one was born. Then I saw your post about year-end summary and mentioned how you had similar thoughts but once the child past one year's birthday, things suddenly brightened up and back to normal. I'm so happy that I read it at the time and now have been very happy with my work exactly since the first birthday.
Hehe, I personally like the second girl a lot! She seems have the great potential to be an excellent researcher--patience, determination, and focus. I can totally imagine that the second girl has no interest in family background, make-up, or no answers for those common questions--simply because those do not matter to her at all. I agree that she needs to learn some social skill, which in my mind is easy to learn when she's ready. The first girl is kind of Average Joe in comparison, I feel. I'm not so confident that she would easily learn the essence to do excellent research--there are all the distractions around. Maybe she'll be a good leader.
All above are based on the goal I'm imagining--finding a potential researcher. I guess the university diversifies what candidates they 're looking for.
BTW, want to thank you for one of your past post. I wanted quitting my job very badly after my little one was born. Then I saw your post about year-end summary and mentioned how you had similar thoughts but once the child past one year's birthday, things suddenly brightened up and back to normal. I'm so happy that I read it at the time and now have been very happy with my work exactly since the first birthday.
Hehe, I think that a brilliant scientist may not need the whole set of social skill of an aggressive president. :) Like Essence said, the fairness plays. :) [此贴子已经被作者于2010/1/25 14:43:53编辑过]
Dear Essence, my pleasure to share some of my thoughts and experience about work. I like research-type of work all the time--I enjoy the moment finding something new, even though it may not be useful at all. I've worked in industry for 4 years. The first project was research-type which was really fun. But it was not so 'mainstream' inside the company--meaning, the job security was quite bad comparing to product-related projects. The worst experience happened after my child was born. I lost 50% of my energy and time to work, and really missed the best opportunity to move the project further to the next critical point. The project was canceled after 2 years. I did some product-related design for a year, which was OK but not as much fun, until the layoff of our whole group. At the time, our industry was in terrible shape so I didn't get a offer in industry; instead I got in a research place. So far I like it better than in industry. I'm still far from my goal; but I'm trying.
Hehe, I think that a brilliant scientist may not need the whole set of social skill of an aggressive president. :) Like Essence said, the fairness plays. :) [此贴子已经被作者于2010/1/25 14:43:53编辑过]
不是aggressive president才需要whole set of social skill啊，everybody in this society needs it 不知道mm是不是在学术界工作，networking, 在学术界的重要性，比在工业界的重要性只是有过之而无不及 teamwork也是很重要的 而且，a brilliant scientist needs a family too 不是针对精华说的第二个女生，就是泛指
Hehe, I personally like the second girl a lot! She seems have the great potential to be an excellent researcher--patience, determination, and focus. I can totally imagine that the second girl has no interest in family background, make-up, or no answers for those common questions--simply because those do not matter to her at all. I agree that she needs to learn some social skill, which in my mind is easy to learn when she's ready. The first girl is kind of Average Joe in comparison, I feel. I'm not so confident that she would easily learn the essence to do excellent research--there are all the distractions around. Maybe she'll be a good leader.
All above are based on the goal I'm imagining--finding a potential researcher. I guess the university diversifies what candidates they 're looking for.
BTW, want to thank you for one of your past post. I wanted quitting my job very badly after my little one was born. Then I saw your post about year-end summary and mentioned how you had similar thoughts but once the child past one year's birthday, things suddenly brightened up and back to normal. I'm so happy that I read it at the time and now have been very happy with my work exactly since the first birthday.
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干妈，看不了哈，该下吧？
she is a genius for sure...
这两个孩子都是很优秀阿，个性不同，将来走对了路，都会有成就的。
第一个，处事机灵得体，应该一直都会是那种受欢迎的好学生，大家都期望的那种生活事业成功。
第二个，很显然的不在乎人家怎么看她，对她喜欢的确很是关注用心。我不懂阿，也许有些学科对跟人的交往能力不是那么要求，如果是这样，她如果能一直潜心得不为外界所干扰的去钻研，相信她能做的很好。不过作为一个女孩子，她的个人生活希望也能幸福顺利。
第一次知道原来美国公立的高中也有考分入学的，我一直以为公立的学校就是划片的，按家庭地址的。
这个学校是要考的。我又search了下，是面向周边多个县招生，不是全国。改了
干妈，看不了哈，该下吧？
干妈，改啦！
一大早惦记着去爬拉楼，才看到新开了贴。谢谢精华写的这么详细。
这两个孩子都是很优秀阿，个性不同，将来走对了路，都会有成就的。
第一个，处事机灵得体，应该一直都会是那种受欢迎的好学生，大家都期望的那种生活事业成功。
第二个，很显然的不在乎人家怎么看她，对她喜欢的确很是关注用心。我不懂阿，也许有些学科对跟人的交往能力不是那么要求，如果是这样，她如果能一直潜心得不为外界所干扰的去钻研，相信她能做的很好。不过作为一个女孩子，她的个人生活希望也能幸福顺利。
嗯。我之前见过的几个学生都和第一个差不多。应该都是好学生了吧。
第二个学生也说了，她将来就想做research，连professor都不想做，因为不喜欢teaching，看来对自己的优势弱点有所认识。其实她个子高高，也很苗条，如果好好打扮打扮开发开发，应该会加分很多
嗯。我之前见过的几个学生都和第一个差不多。应该都是好学生了吧。
第二个学生也说了，她将来就想做research，连professor都不想做，因为不喜欢teaching，看来对自己的优势弱点有所认识。其实她个子高高，也很苗条，如果好好打扮打扮开发开发，应该会加分很多
the 2nd is hard to live in the real world.
嗯。我之前见过的几个学生都和第一个差不多。应该都是好学生了吧。
第二个学生也说了，她将来就想做research，连professor都不想做，因为不喜欢teaching，看来对自己的优势弱点有所认识。其实她个子高高，也很苗条，如果好好打扮打扮开发开发，应该会加分很多
说实话，我觉得第二个孩子挺难得的。能对自己有清醒的认识，知道自己适合做什么，在她这个年龄不简单了。
至于穿着打扮，她的心思根本就不在那上面，也许她那样的不匀的粉还是迫于父母的说教很勉强涂上去的呢。
可你看，她对于她关心的问题，却那么有准备，问的你那么仔细。
咱们不是经常说那些科学家都跟nerd一样吗，也许真是要这样的专心致志才能出成绩吧。
这些都是初中生吗?
多谢分享。
这些都是初中生吗?
明白了, 是高中生面世大学.
the 2nd is hard to live in the real world.
她需要有一个不需要worry的生活，需要有一个在学业上能支持赏识提供他研究环境的老板。这对于不会社交的她，可能需要运气了
不是有很多人没有这样的运气，还在一团糟的生活中执着追求的，对他的家人可能是个痛苦，作为外人，我还是很敬佩他们。
她需要有一个不需要worry的生活，需要有一个在学业上能支持赏识提供他研究环境的老板。这对于不会社交的她，可能需要运气了
不是有很多人没有这样的运气，还在一团糟的生活中执着追求的，对他的家人可能是个痛苦，作为外人，我还是很敬佩他们。
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她需要有一个不需要worry的生活，需要有一个在学业上能支持赏识提供他研究环境的老板。这对于不会社交的她，可能需要运气了
不是有很多人没有这样的运气，还在一团糟的生活中执着追求的，对他的家人可能是个痛苦，作为外人，我还是很敬佩他们。
co敬佩。不过不知道她将来会不会变呢。
说实话，我觉得第二个孩子挺难得的。能对自己有清醒的认识，知道自己适合做什么，在她这个年龄不简单了。
至于穿着打扮，她的心思根本就不在那上面，也许她那样的不匀的粉还是迫于父母的说教很勉强涂上去的呢。
可你看，她对于她关心的问题，却那么有准备，问的你那么仔细。
咱们不是经常说那些科学家都跟nerd一样吗，也许真是要这样的专心致志才能出成绩吧。
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商平平吧，呵呵
这个学校是要考的。我又search了下，是面向周边多个县招生，不是全国。改了
TJ向蒙郡招生么？？
TJ 再强，去 ivy league 也就 最多百分之十几，何一个好一点的私立一样。
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面试就这样结束了。我还没想好评语怎么写。第二个姑娘，虽然很优秀，但是她的交流困难，不能open up，还是很让人concern的。基本上她回答的问题，都不到点子上，我很努力地想问她为何会对科学感兴趣，最终也没答出个所以然来。难道这就象昏君会问何不食肉糜，就象巴黎艳后会问为什么不给他们吃蛋糕一样，人家头脑富有，压根不理解为什么我会对这些东西不感兴趣。
8完了。谢谢斑斑打赏！
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Hehe, I personally like the second girl a lot! She seems have the great potential to be an excellent researcher--patience, determination, and focus. I can totally imagine that the second girl has no interest in family background, make-up, or no answers for those common questions--simply because those do not matter to her at all.
All above are based on the goal I'm imagining--finding a potential researcher. I guess the university diversifies what candidates they 're looking for.
BTW, want to thank you for one of your past post. I wanted quitting my job very badly after my little one was born. Then I saw your post about year-end summary and mentioned how you had similar thoughts but once the child past one year's birthday, things suddenly brightened up and back to normal. I'm so happy that I read it at the time and now have been very happy with my work exactly since the first birthday.
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一大早惦记着去爬拉楼，才看到新开了贴。谢谢精华写的这么详细。
这两个孩子都是很优秀阿，个性不同，将来走对了路，都会有成就的。
第一个，处事机灵得体，应该一直都会是那种受欢迎的好学生，大家都期望的那种生活事业成功。
第二个，很显然的不在乎人家怎么看她，对她喜欢的确很是关注用心。我不懂阿，也许有些学科对跟人的交往能力不是那么要求，如果是这样，她如果能一直潜心得不为外界所干扰的去钻研，相信她能做的很好。不过作为一个女孩子，她的个人生活希望也能幸福顺利。
和尚妈说的真好
TJ向蒙郡招生么？？
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其实，这种interview 根本在最后的admission上起的作用很小。 后面那个女生，他的communication skill 中不重要，对他的admission 没什么影响。他的academic 强，就行了。起码， ivy league 和 私校 不看重。
TJ 再强，去 ivy league 也就 最多百分之十几，何一个好一点的私立一样。
可是，私立要多少银子啊，TJ不要银子哈
很有意思，怎么发到家小了？
应该发家小啊，要不发哪个版?
Hehe, I personally like the second girl a lot! She seems have the great potential to be an excellent researcher--patience, determination, and focus. I can totally imagine that the second girl has no interest in family background, make-up, or no answers for those common questions--simply because those do not matter to her at all.
All above are based on the goal I'm imagining--finding a potential researcher. I guess the university diversifies what candidates they 're looking for.
BTW, want to thank you for one of your past post. I wanted quitting my job very badly after my little one was born. Then I saw your post about year-end summary and mentioned how you had similar thoughts but once the child past one year's birthday, things suddenly brightened up and back to normal. I'm so happy that I read it at the time and now have been very happy with my work exactly since the first birthday.
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我觉得，social skill是最难学的功课之一，之一两个字是为了避免太绝对加上的
老美这里，从娃娃出生开始，所谓早教的重点就是--social skill。1岁前主要是和父母以及primary caregiver的socail，1岁之后加入和peer之间的social,再之后peer之间的social增多跟primary caregiver的social减少。。。等等，这种文化里，social重于一切。
TJ向蒙郡招生么？？
他家网站上写的只向周围VA的几个县招生。
其实，这种interview 根本在最后的admission上起的作用很小。 后面那个女生，他的communication skill 中不重要，对他的admission 没什么影响。他的academic 强，就行了。起码， ivy league 和 私校 不看重。
TJ 再强，去 ivy league 也就 最多百分之十几，何一个好一点的私立一样。
百分之十几以后的人都去哪里了呢？应该也都是很好的学校吧？
这个社会就是这么公平，每个人都她的特质和适应的位子。有的人适合作researcher，有的人就适合作leader。那第一个女生确实说她的目标是做管理类型的工作，因为她对这些感兴趣。还有一个有意思的是，家里有两个和她年龄相近的妹妹，估计从小就是bossy的姐姐来着。我已经想好了，评语就从这个方面来写。
没想到当时写的一点感想，能对mm有所启发。我也follow过以前mm还有静水在职版参与过的帖子。我相信你肯定越做越好。
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很有意思，怎么发到家小了？
和教育娃有关吗，当然发家小。
可是，私立要多少银子啊，TJ不要银子哈
呵呵。。。
百分之十几以后的人都去哪里了呢？应该也都是很好的学校吧？
我觉得你们学校一点儿不比藤校差，比大部分藤校还好吧
this second kid is probably autism spectrum?
she is a genius for sure...
She knows what she wants and knows to prepare a question list and ask questions.
我觉得，social skill是最难学的功课之一，之一两个字是为了避免太绝对加上的
老美这里，从娃娃出生开始，所谓早教的重点就是--social skill。1岁前主要是和父母以及primary caregiver的socail，1岁之后加入和peer之间的social,再之后peer之间的social增多跟primary caregiver的social减少。。。等等，这种文化里，social重于一切。
Hehe, I think that a brilliant scientist may not need the whole set of social skill of an aggressive president. :) Like Essence said, the fairness plays. :)
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这个社会就是这么公平，每个人都她的特质和适应的位子。有的人适合作researcher，有的人就适合作leader。那第一个女生确实说她的目标是做管理类型的工作，因为她对这些感兴趣。还有一个有意思的是，家里有两个和她年龄相近的妹妹，估计从小就是bossy的姐姐来着。我已经想好了，评语就从这个方面来写。
没想到当时写的一点感想，能对mm有所启发。我也follow过以前mm还有静水在职版参与过的帖子。我相信你肯定越做越好。
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Totally agree. A good society runs to explore the best of everyone. :)
I have not follow posts here for a while. Have you got a boy (in your avatar)?
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I like research-type of work all the time--I enjoy the moment finding something new, even though it may not be useful at all.
谢谢mm写了这么多。struggle 啊struggle，正是我在经历的。回头再详细给你回
名校出来就是好呀。。。闲了还能面试中学生玩
我也面试了几个，不过没这么有特色的
看来我们是校友，kaka
昨天才看到这帖子，今天收到学校的email要招人去面试高中生
难道我们都是校友？？？
不过我不是牛人，没胆去
Hehe, I think that a brilliant scientist may not need the whole set of social skill of an aggressive president. :) Like Essence said, the fairness plays. :)
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不是aggressive president才需要whole set of social skill啊，everybody in this society needs it
不知道mm是不是在学术界工作，networking, 在学术界的重要性，比在工业界的重要性只是有过之而无不及
teamwork也是很重要的
而且，a brilliant scientist needs a family too
不是针对精华说的第二个女生，就是泛指
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下面一个，也是个女生。之前email联系的时候她回信就比较晚，也没给我留手机号码。我们约定的时间过了大概有5分钟，我看到进来一个年轻的高个子姑娘。店里，人多，她直接走到和我坐的比较远的地方坐下了。也没有找人的样子。我观察了几分钟，看她不象有同伴，就走过去，问她是不是某某？她面无表情地说是，我介绍了自己，她也没有起身的意思。我东西都在我的位置那边，就邀请她到我那边去坐。因为我们是咖啡店里那种小桌子，坐定以后，我定睛一看，这位姑娘脸上有点不对劲，她化着淡妆，但是脸上的粉都没有涂匀，明显有一道一道的痕迹。再加上脸上有些青春小豆豆，看上去不是那么太舒服。她一张嘴，我更吓了一跳，嘴上带着牙套不说，还是那种颜色蓝绿相间。按说带牙套也没啥，但是那个蓝绿的颜色，配上里面黄黄的牙齿，真是有点惊秫。顺便想起来前面那个姑娘一口显然是人工加工过赵薇式的白牙，虽然有点假，但是至少观感舒服。又顺便想到了我自己的黄牙齿和计划中的整牙计划，这一秒钟，我打定主意，无论如何要上invisalign。
invisalign效果不是非常好呀，而且嘴唇形态的改变都不会少。
不如做那种舌侧的，虽然痛，但是外形没有改变。另外成年人矫正，30岁以上的，至今见到医院的病例（50例左右）坚持下来的只有20%左右。因为成人骨骼定型，不像小孩子扩弓定根很容易。成人很痛的。
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Hehe, I personally like the second girl a lot! She seems have the great potential to be an excellent researcher--patience, determination, and focus. I can totally imagine that the second girl has no interest in family background, make-up, or no answers for those common questions--simply because those do not matter to her at all.
All above are based on the goal I'm imagining--finding a potential researcher. I guess the university diversifies what candidates they 're looking for.
BTW, want to thank you for one of your past post. I wanted quitting my job very badly after my little one was born. Then I saw your post about year-end summary and mentioned how you had similar thoughts but once the child past one year's birthday, things suddenly brightened up and back to normal. I'm so happy that I read it at the time and now have been very happy with my work exactly since the first birthday.
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agree. See many of the 2nd types everyday in top univ. PhD program.
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我觉得，social skill是最难学的功课之一，之一两个字是为了避免太绝对加上的
老美这里，从娃娃出生开始，所谓早教的重点就是--social skill。1岁前主要是和父母以及primary caregiver的socail，1岁之后加入和peer之间的social,再之后peer之间的social增多跟primary caregiver的social减少。。。等等，这种文化里，social重于一切。
co-re
我到现在都是不会和不熟悉的类型的人说话，感觉非常不舒服。社交能力和为了达到目的而社交我觉得是两个概念。when she's ready的那种真的能学到人与人交往么？我一直以为我就是ready就自然会了，这有什么啊，不就是什么什么和什么什么么。不过现实到目前为止不是。继续探索中。
第二个成绩优秀的怪癖学生
不如做那种舌侧的，虽然痛，但是外形没有改变。另外成年人矫正，30岁以上的，至今见到医院的病例（50例左右）坚持下来的只有20%左右。因为成人骨骼定型，不像小孩子扩弓定根很容易。成人很痛的。
听起来好可怕啊。回头我真做这个再来和mm咨询。
caltech?
nope
写得真好！
谢谢！
弱弱的问一句。。lzmm是faculty咩？
不是啊。普通得不能再普通的毕业生一枚。这个事情，校友都可以报名参加的。俺就觉得好玩好奇才报的名。
玛雅，这竞争。。。。
FF county多好的学区啊，那么多好学校呢，真羡慕～～～
允许我把这个贴又提上来。终于放榜了，只想给大家更新一下结果。
第二个面的女生被录取了。第一个被denied。被录
取的那个女生还被列为special interest applicant。也就是说是重点recruit对象，在所有申请人中是top
2%-3%之内。我们学校的本科在全美是top
10，是比较小的私校，申请人的整体水平应该是比较高的。这个结果也让我们对米国大学喜欢什么样的学生有了更进一步的了解乐吧。
刚才给被
录取的女孩打了祝贺电话。电话那头还是一贯的平静。我这头说啥，都没回音，也没有听到很激动兴奋的情绪。我想她应该有更多更好的offer，我们学校的录
取并没在她心里引起啥波澜。
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/4/5 12:44:47编辑过]
看来，还是要凭真本事， 那些糊嘴皮子的活， 靠不住。
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现实生活中，还是第一个更popular阿