加拿大没 Kaiser， 你就别凭空想象，张口就来了。 Are kaiser low ranking hospitals? Not at all — Kaiser Permanente hospitals are actually recognized as high performers across the board 🏥. According to the 2025–2026 U.S. News & World Report rankings: 🔹 38 out of 40 Kaiser hospitals were rated “high performing” in one or more areas of care. 🧠 Specialty areas include stroke, heart failure, cancer surgery, rehabilitation, and more. 🌍 Several Kaiser hospitals — like Fontana, Ontario, and South Sacramento — earned special honors for equitable access in underserved communities. 🏆 In California, 17 Kaiser hospitals ranked among the top 60 statewide for overall care. So while Kaiser may not be a flashy academic research center, it’s far from low-ranking. It’s a leader in integrated, high-quality care with a strong focus on outcomes, access, and preventive medicine.
加拿大没 Kaiser， 你就别凭空想象，张口就来了。 Are kaiser low ranking hospitals? Not at all — Kaiser Permanente hospitals are actually recognized as high performers across the board 🏥. According to the 2025–2026 U.S. News & World Report rankings: 🔹 38 out of 40 Kaiser hospitals were rated “high performing” in one or more areas of care. 🧠 Specialty areas include stroke, heart failure, cancer surgery, rehabilitation, and more. 🌍 Several Kaiser hospitals — like Fontana, Ontario, and South Sacramento — earned special honors for equitable access in underserved communities. 🏆 In California, 17 Kaiser hospitals ranked among the top 60 statewide for overall care. So while Kaiser may not be a flashy academic research center, it’s far from low-ranking. It’s a leader in integrated, high-quality care with a strong focus on outcomes, access, and preventive medicine.
Kaiser 和你当年所在地八字不合啊，在加州很兴旺。 Kaiser Permanente used to operate in the Cleveland area, but it no longer runs hospitals or medical centers there as part of its core network. 🕰️ Historical presence: • Kaiser had a strong footprint in Cleveland through the Kaiser Community Health Foundation, which included facilities like the Parma Medical Center and Cleveland Medical Center. • In the 1980s and 1990s, Kaiser partnered with local hospitals like Saint Luke’s, Fairview, and Akron City Hospital to expand services. 🚫 Current status: • Kaiser Permanente exited the Ohio market in the early 2000s due to competitive pressures and restructuring. • Today, there are no active Kaiser Permanente hospitals or health plans in Cleveland or anywhere in Ohio.
kaiser什么都管，肥水不流外人田，但是太cheap，用最差的药，水平最差医生。 基本等于医疗社区食堂。
需要菌培养确诊
住院患者有接近30%死亡率。
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美国败血症的死亡率随情况不同而异，其中医院患者的死亡率估计为26.7%，ICU（重症监护室）患者的死亡率高达42.6%。多项研究显示，败血性休克在美国的死亡率在21.6%至50.8%之间。随着治疗的进步，败血症的住院死亡率已有所下降，但早期发现和治疗对于挽救生命至关重要。
详细死亡率数据： 总体住院患者死亡率： 约26.7%。 重症监护室（ICU）患者死亡率： 高达42.6%。 败血性休克死亡率： 介于21.6%至50.8%。
没有全民保险，很多人发烧硬撑，几小时后迅速在家里死亡。
如果因此悄无声息地死了几万人，这就是你理想的医疗系统。 这些死人理论上没有被急诊耽误。也没有媒体渲染。死的静悄悄。 眼不见为净，你可以继续活在幻觉里。
败血症是非常凶险疾病
败血症第一时期导致死亡不是因为血液里细菌太多，血不干净了，坏掉了，细菌几百倍繁殖。 而是因为免疫风暴。 免疫系统过度反应，导致肝肾脑心人体各个器官衰竭 免疫系统在抗击感染时过度运转，转而攻击人体自己器官。
任何小的损伤感染都可能导致败血症，比如咽喉炎，手切破，肠胃炎，还有病毒真菌感染。做细菌培养发现真正病原菌需要48小时左右。
现在人用抗生素泛滥，禽畜抗生素泛滥，耐药超级细菌出现治疗败血症更难
败血症治疗花费昂贵，需要换血，透析，呼吸机，心肺复苏装置。 美国住院花费最高十大病之首就是败血症，每年花费203亿美元。加拿大安大略每年花费10亿加元。
败血症有严重后遗症，一半人能够康复，20%会在一年内死亡，美国总统老布什就是在败血症紧急治疗后8个月死亡。 还有很多人出院后出现肾衰竭或心血管疾病等后遗症，功能障碍认知障碍生活无法自理。
我是针对前边一个层主回帖说的，也许她在美国、当时看到的是不花钱的坐急救车情况，一般人需要花几百刀copay坐救护车，非紧急都是自己开车，不会叫救护车的。 你说的这个要交些钱，是个不错的规定，能够减少不必要的浪费。
所以啊，一般人没啥快死的病，不会自己出几百刀叫救护车的，都是自己开车去。那位层主看到坐救护车去还跟她坐一起等的，估计不是啥真着急的病用了救护车，白卡这样不需要付钱的用比较多。
你应该在国内做一个MRI，没辐射。北美这边MRI比较贵，一般不做，是先上X光，CT再MRI。其实X光看不到早期的
所以荷兰以前也是全民免费，现在让自己从兜里掏出来一些了，这样就不会大病小病去急诊。 美国中产需要往外掏一些copay，一般不会去急诊，不到非不得已不用救护车，而免费白卡用急救车和去急诊看病的多，飓风来了，能免费看病的也来急诊躲雨。而急诊对需要出copay的人来说肉痛钱。
加拿大没 Kaiser， 你就别凭空想象，张口就来了。
Are kaiser low ranking hospitals?
Not at all — Kaiser Permanente hospitals are actually recognized as high performers across the board 🏥. According to the 2025–2026 U.S. News & World Report rankings: 🔹 38 out of 40 Kaiser hospitals were rated “high performing” in one or more areas of care. 🧠 Specialty areas include stroke, heart failure, cancer surgery, rehabilitation, and more. 🌍 Several Kaiser hospitals — like Fontana, Ontario, and South Sacramento — earned special honors for equitable access in underserved communities. 🏆 In California, 17 Kaiser hospitals ranked among the top 60 statewide for overall care. So while Kaiser may not be a flashy academic research center, it’s far from low-ranking. It’s a leader in integrated, high-quality care with a strong focus on outcomes, access, and preventive medicine.
我又不是没有在美国呆过，在克利夫兰时不交钱公司就给kaiser 里面印度医生说话我都听不懂。 没病这是个好系统，至少自己不掏钱，有病好自为之。 闭环医疗体系控制费用，从来肥水不流外人田，就那么几个医生在折腾，虽然CCF就在附近，但是别做梦去看真正专家。
Kaiser Permanente used to operate in the Cleveland area, but it no longer runs hospitals or medical centers there as part of its core network. 🕰️ Historical presence: • Kaiser had a strong footprint in Cleveland through the Kaiser Community Health Foundation, which included facilities like the Parma Medical Center and Cleveland Medical Center. • In the 1980s and 1990s, Kaiser partnered with local hospitals like Saint Luke’s, Fairview, and Akron City Hospital to expand services. 🚫 Current status: • Kaiser Permanente exited the Ohio market in the early 2000s due to competitive pressures and restructuring. • Today, there are no active Kaiser Permanente hospitals or health plans in Cleveland or anywhere in Ohio.