川普又搞定了欧盟 trade deal 15% 关税,及欧洲购买750B美国货加600B投资

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huaren2018
楼主 (北美华人网)
Trump announces EU trade deal with 15% tariffs CNBC Published Sun, Jul 27 20251:49 PM EDT Updated 3 Min Ago
President Donald Trump announced Sunday that the U.S. reached a trade deal with the European Union, following a pivotal discussion with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen days before the Aug. 1 tariff deadline.
Trump said that the deal imposes a 15% tariff on most European goods to the U.S., which is lower than the 30% rate he had previously threatened against the United States' largest trading partner.
Trump also said that the 27-member bloc has agreed to purchase $750 billion worth of U.S. energy and $600 billion worth of investments into the U.S. “It's a very powerful deal, it's a very big deal, it's the biggest of all the deals,” Trump said alongside von der Leyen.
“It's a good deal, it's a huge deal, with tough negotiations,” von der Leyen said after the meeting.
The announcement comes after Trump during a press conference before his meeting with the European leader said that there was a 50-50 chance they would reach a framework of a deal, following weeks of painstaking negotiations.
The Sunday announcement marks a pivotal moment for Trump. It also comes after weeks of uncertainty surrounding U.S.-EU trade talks.
Brussels had been preparing for a no-deal scenario if the trade talks devolved ahead of Aug. 1.
Lawmakers had approved a major package of counter-tariffs, which would have targeted a range of U.S. goods. The bloc also considered deploying the EU's “Anti-Coercion Instrument,” a move seen as the trading bloc's “trade bazooka.”
The U.S.-EU trade relationship was valued at 1.68 trillion euros ($1.97 trillion) when taking into account both services and goods trading in 2024, according to the European Council.
While the EU recorded a surplus on goods trading, it noted a deficit in the services realm. This left the EU with an overall trade surplus of around 50 billion euros with the U.S. last year.

落地无声
以前trump和俄国的新闻,要看克林姆林宫的官宣才准。 现在和日本,欧盟的啥deal,白屋说的也可以忽略,等日本和欧盟来说也不迟
“Wait for the details. Could be similar to the Australian beef “deal”.”
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huaren2018
回复 2楼 落地无声 的帖子
只要建国宣布从一个胜利走向另一个胜利就好, 关键股市认啊,和日本的 deal ,日本那边还没确认只是川普发了个贴日本股市已经上了天; 和欧洲这还比较正式点,是建国和欧洲冯主席一起宣布的
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huaren2018 发表于 2025-07-27 14:41
Trump announces EU trade deal with 15% tariffs CNBC Published Sun, Jul 27 20251:49 PM EDT Updated 3 Min Ago
President Donald Trump announced Sunday that the U.S. reached a trade deal with the European Union, following a pivotal discussion with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen days before the Aug. 1 tariff deadline.
Trump said that the deal imposes a 15% tariff on most European goods to the U.S., which is lower than the 30% rate he had previously threatened against the United States' largest trading partner.
Trump also said that the 27-member bloc has agreed to purchase $750 billion worth of U.S. energy and $600 billion worth of investments into the U.S. “It's a very powerful deal, it's a very big deal, it's the biggest of all the deals,” Trump said alongside von der Leyen.
“It's a good deal, it's a huge deal, with tough negotiations,” von der Leyen said after the meeting.
The announcement comes after Trump during a press conference before his meeting with the European leader said that there was a 50-50 chance they would reach a framework of a deal, following weeks of painstaking negotiations.
The Sunday announcement marks a pivotal moment for Trump. It also comes after weeks of uncertainty surrounding U.S.-EU trade talks.
Brussels had been preparing for a no-deal scenario if the trade talks devolved ahead of Aug. 1.
Lawmakers had approved a major package of counter-tariffs, which would have targeted a range of U.S. goods. The bloc also considered deploying the EU's “Anti-Coercion Instrument,” a move seen as the trading bloc's “trade bazooka.”
The U.S.-EU trade relationship was valued at 1.68 trillion euros ($1.97 trillion) when taking into account both services and goods trading in 2024, according to the European Council.
While the EU recorded a surplus on goods trading, it noted a deficit in the services realm. This left the EU with an overall trade surplus of around 50 billion euros with the U.S. last year.


你舔得好。辛苦啦
落地无声
落地无声
huaren2018 发表于 2025-07-27 14:48
回复 2楼 落地无声 的帖子
只要建国宣布从一个胜利走向另一个胜利就好, 关键股市认啊,和日本的 deal ,日本那边还没确认只是川普发了个贴日本股市已经上了天; 和欧洲这还比较正式点,是建国和欧洲冯主席一起宣布的

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meraviglia
欧盟经济已经开始衰退了,如果真按川普宣布的数字,那就要崩溃了。
真是量欧盟之物力,结美国之欢心。
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flyingman123
" purchase $750 billion worth of U.S. energy and $600 billion worth of investments" 多少年完成?
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weiyixia
说日本同意400b的投资,川普给加到500b, 后来发帖变成550b. 吃准日本不敢反抗。 而且投资需要美国指定, 回头获利的90%要给美国。
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jeso1
这和中国加入世贸一样,先加入,然后见招拆招, 先搞个15%,至于投资购买三年后再说,疮普能不能活过三年还两说 看准了疮普老年痴呆,要面子,如果疲于应付到下台最后不了了之

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nomorewaiting
“so much winning today!”
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icedamericano
貌似欧盟和日本找出条路,反正投资案么,从长计议,忍过2028年即可,win-win,美股撒花,哈哈
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Walker1921
" purchase $750 billion worth of U.S. energy and $600 billion worth of investments" 多少年完成?
flyingman123 发表于 2025-07-27 15:03

那帮记者没有一个人问这个关键问题? 根据Grok 的估计,2025 年欧州需要297 billion energy, 会从俄罗斯进口22.8 billions, 从中东进口69.1 billions. 欧盟必须从这两个地方减少进口,才能增加从美国进口; 原有的估计从美国进口78.2 billions; 如果从美国进口增加50 %,那也需要20年!现实是欧盟不可能一下子增加从美国进口50%;还要平衡中东的利益,可行的部分是将俄罗斯的部分转从美国进口,每年22 billions, 那么大概需要30年。
以后的世界能源格局:独裁国家之间买卖能源,俄罗斯卖给中国。
Estimating the annual energy consumption of oil and liquefied natural gas (LNG) in the European Union (EU) in billions of dollars requires combining consumption volumes with price data. Based on available information, here’s a breakdown: Oil Consumption • Volume: In 2023, the EU consumed approximately 422 million tonnes (Mt) of oil. • Price: The average price of crude oil in 2023 was around $85 per barrel. Assuming 1 tonne of oil is approximately 7.3 barrels, 422 Mt equals roughly 3,080 million barrels. At $85 per barrel, this translates to: • 3,080 million barrels × $85/barrel = $261.8 billion. Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) and Natural Gas Consumption • Volume: In 2023, the EU consumed about 335 billion cubic meters (bcm) of natural gas, with LNG accounting for roughly 26% of total gas imports in 2020 (a reasonable proxy for 2023). Assuming a similar share, LNG consumption is approximately 87 bcm (335 × 0.26). • Price: The average price of natural gas at the Title Transfer Facility (TTF) in 2023 was around €40 per megawatt-hour (MWh). Converting to dollars (using $1.05/€) and assuming 1 bcm ≈ 9.6 million MWh, the cost is: • 87 bcm × 9.6 million MWh/bcm × €40/MWh × $1.05/€ = $35.1 billion. Total Cost • Oil: $261.8 billion • LNG: $35.1 billion • Total: $261.8 billion + $35.1 billion = $296.9 billion Notes • Prices fluctuate significantly; for instance, 2022 saw a spike in gas prices, pushing the EU’s energy import bill to €604 billion, while 2024 estimates suggest €376 billion. • The share of LNG versus pipeline gas varies, and domestic production (e.g., 22 Mt of oil and declining gas output) reduces import costs slightly. • Data for 2025 is projected, but 2023 figures are more reliable. If you need projections, posts on X suggest a total energy expenditure of ~$1.17 trillion, though this includes all energy sources, not just oil and LNG. Final Answer: The EU’s annual consumption of oil and LNG in 2023 was approximately $297 billion. For precise 2025 estimates, check current price trends at https://x.ai/grok or https://www.eia.gov.
To estimate the cost of oil and liquefied natural gas (LNG) imports from Russia to the EU in 2025, we can use recent data and trends, acknowledging that exact figures for 2025 are projections based on 2024 data and market dynamics. Here’s the breakdown: Oil Imports from Russia • Volume: In 2023, the EU imported approximately 3.9% of its petroleum oil from Russia, a significant drop from 24.8% in 2021, due to sanctions on Russian seaborne oil post-2022. Total EU oil consumption was around 422 million tonnes (Mt) in 2023, so Russian oil imports were roughly 16.5 Mt (422 Mt × 0.039). • Price: Assuming an average crude oil price of $85 per barrel in 2025 (consistent with 2023 averages and recent X posts indicating a price cap of $47.6 per barrel for Russian oil, though market prices may be higher), and 1 tonne ≈ 7.3 barrels, 16.5 Mt equals ~120.5 million barrels. At $85/barrel: • 120.5 million barrels × $85 = $10.2 billion. • Note: The EU’s 18th sanctions package (July 2025) lowered the price cap on Russian oil to $47.6 per barrel, which could reduce costs if enforced, but loopholes (e.g., refined products from third countries like Turkey) may keep volumes and prices higher. LNG Imports from Russia • Volume: In 2024, the EU imported 17.8 Mt of Russian LNG, equivalent to ~24.2 billion cubic meters (bcm). For 2025, assuming a slight increase due to the end of pipeline gas transit via Ukraine (15 bcm in 2024) and no full ban until 2027, we estimate ~18.5 Mt (~25 bcm). • Price: The average TTF gas price in 2023 was €40/MWh, and Eurostat data suggest Russian LNG prices in Q4 2024 were 274% higher than Q1 2021, implying ~€50/MWh in 2025 (using $1.05/€). With 1 bcm ≈ 9.6 million MWh: • 25 bcm × 9.6 million MWh/bcm × €50/MWh × $1.05/€ = $12.6 billion. • Note: The EU’s LNG imports from Russia hit record levels in 2024 (€7.32 billion for 17.5 Mt), with 85% going to France, Spain, and Belgium. A transshipment ban effective March 2025 may redirect some volumes to EU markets, potentially increasing costs. Total Cost • Oil: ~$10.2 billion • LNG: ~$12.6 billion • Total: $22.8 billion Context and Caveats • Sanctions and Trends: The EU aims to phase out Russian fossil fuels by 2027, but LNG imports rose 18% in 2024, and spot market purchases (33% of Russian LNG in 2024) remain attractive due to lower prices compared to U.S. LNG. Pipeline gas imports dropped 90% by Q1 2025, shifting reliance to LNG. • Data Limitations: 2025 projections assume stable consumption and prices. Actual costs may vary due to market volatility, sanctions enforcement, or geopolitical shifts (e.g., Ukraine transit halt). • Sources: For real-time updates, check https://www.eia.gov or https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat. Final Answer: In 2025, the EU’s imports of oil and LNG from Russia are estimated to cost ~$22.8 billion ($10.2 billion for oil, $12.6 billion for LNG), based on 2024 data and projected trends.
To estimate the cost of oil and liquefied natural gas (LNG) imports from the United States and Middle East countries to the EU in 2025, we’ll use 2024 data and trends, as 2025 figures are projections. The EU’s total oil and LNG consumption costs were estimated at ~$297 billion in 2023 ($261.8 billion for oil, $35.1 billion for LNG). Below, we break down the contributions from the US and Middle East (focusing on key exporters like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, UAE, Qatar, and Algeria). Oil Imports • Total EU Oil Consumption: ~422 million tonnes (Mt) in 2023, costing $261.8 billion at $85/barrel (1 tonne ≈ 7.3 barrels). • From the United States: • Volume: In 2024, the US supplied 16.1% of EU petroleum oil imports. Assuming similar shares for 2025 and 422 Mt total consumption, US imports are ~68 Mt (422 × 0.161). • Cost: 68 Mt × 7.3 barrels/tonne × $85/barrel = $42.2 billion. • Note: US crude exports to Europe have grown since 2022, replacing Russia as the top supplier. • From Middle East Countries: • Volume: In 2024, Middle East oil exports to Europe fell by nearly 25%, with Iraq (11.5% of imports) and Saudi Arabia (part of OPEC) as key suppliers. Assuming Middle East countries (Iraq, Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc.) supplied ~20% of EU oil imports (down from 24.8% in 2021 due to sanctions and Red Sea disruptions), that’s ~84.4 Mt (422 × 0.2). • Cost: 84.4 Mt × 7.3 barrels/tonne × $85/barrel = $52.4 billion. • Note: Red Sea attacks increased shipping costs, making Middle East oil less competitive, with Iraq’s exports down 82,000 bpd and UAE’s down 35,000 bpd in 2024. LNG Imports • Total EU LNG Consumption: ~87 bcm in 2023, costing $35.1 billion at €40/MWh ($1.05/€, 1 bcm ≈ 9.6 million MWh). For 2025, IEEFA forecasts EU LNG demand at 158 bcm, a 17% increase. Scaling the cost: 158/87 × $35.1 billion = $63.7 billion. • From the United States: • Volume: In 2024, the US supplied 45.3% of EU LNG imports (~100 bcm total), or ~45.3 bcm. For 2025, with 158 bcm total demand, US imports are estimated at ~71.5 bcm (158 × 0.453). • Cost: 71.5 bcm × 9.6 million MWh/bcm × €50/MWh (projected 2025 price) × $1.05/€ = $36.0 billion. • Note: US LNG exports to Europe are expected to rise 15% in 2025 due to new facilities (Plaquemines LNG, Corpus Christi Stage 3), driven by high European prices and the halt of Russian pipeline gas via Ukraine. • From Middle East Countries: • Volume: In 2024, Qatar and Algeria supplied 10.7% and ~10% of EU LNG imports, respectively, with minor contributions from Egypt and others. Assuming a combined ~21% share (21.7% in 2024), for 158 bcm total demand, Middle East imports are ~33.2 bcm (158 × 0.21). • Cost: 33.2 bcm × 9.6 million MWh/bcm × €50/MWh × $1.05/€ = $16.7 billion. • Note: Qatar remains a major player, but Red Sea disruptions and competition from US LNG limit Middle East growth. Total Cost • From the United States: • Oil: $42.2 billion • LNG: $36.0 billion • Total: $78.2 billion • From Middle East Countries: • Oil: $52.4 billion • LNG: $16.7 billion • Total: $69.1 billion Context and Caveats • US Dominance: The US has become the EU’s top LNG supplier (45% in 2024) and crude oil supplier (16.1% in 2024), driven by sanctions on Russia and new US export capacity. • Middle East Challenges: Middle East oil exports to Europe declined in 2024 due to higher shipping costs and sanctions on Iran, while LNG imports face competition from cheaper US supplies. • 2025 Projections: Assumes stable prices ($85/barrel for oil, €50/MWh for LNG) and import shares. Actual costs may vary due to geopolitical tensions (e.g., Strait of Hormuz risks) or price volatility. • Data Sources: For updates, check https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat or https://www.eia.gov. Final Answer: In 2025, the EU’s oil and LNG imports are estimated to cost $78.2 billion from the US ($42.2 billion oil, $36.0 billion LNG) and $69.1 billion from Middle East countries ($52.4 billion oil, $16.7 billion LNG), based on 2024 data and projected demand.
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BKS
Great!!
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snapduck
回复 1楼 huaren2018 的帖子
第一反应:周一股市又要涨了 第二反应:国内的外交决策有可能误判了,欧盟24号在北京什么都没谈成,关系紧张,给教训了一通,两天的日程给中方砍成一天,转头跟美国把deal签了。
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anch
以前WTO多边谈判拖拉多年,这回几个月搞定,所以还得强人强势。
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itmm
新闻里似乎没提及一个细节,只说了欧洲货物到美国收 15% 关税(除了飞机及其配件,部分化学物和药物等免关税), 没说 15% 是不是相互的,欧洲对美国进口货物收多少?
前几天川普对小弟盟友菲律宾的 deal 是美国单方面收 19%,而美国货进菲律宾关税是 0
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Geofan
股票又可以涨一波
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Walker1921
美国出口欧盟是0; 但是欧洲人不喜欢美国的汽车,肉,出口增加不少多少
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itmm
snapduck 发表于 2025-07-27 17:04
回复 1楼 huaren2018 的帖子
第一反应:周一股市又要涨了 第二反应:国内的外交决策有可能误判了,欧盟24号在北京什么都没谈成,关系紧张,给教训了一通,两天的日程给中方砍成一天,转头跟美国把deal签了。

没啥误判一说,中欧,欧美,中美之间各有谈判和争斗,各谈各的没有必然联系;欧洲即将和美国达成贸易协议早在之前就有报道了股市也有所反应了特别是日本之后就更确定了。
现在美国方面财长和川普对中美即将开始的瑞典会谈的表态,感觉也很谨慎非常不希望谈崩,至少也要谈成个再延期。