tenure和promotion是一个准则吗?

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microsat
楼主 (北美华人网)
bylaw里面的tenure和promotion并没有分开。请问 如果一个tenure track assistant professor 准备tenure和promotion申请,请问是满足assistant professor - tenure track这一章节下的条件吗? 还是如果包括申请promotion,那么就要满足associate professor - tenure track的条件。
assistant professor - non-tenure track; assistant professor - tenure track; associate professor - non-tenure track; associate professor - tenure track; professor - non-tenure track; professor - tenure track. 
刚才问了chatgpt,它的如下回答对吗?
Tenure and promotion to Associate Professor If you are an Assistant Professor on tenure track, your review for tenure usually happens at the same time as promotion to Associate Professor. You look at "Associate Professor – Tenure Track" criteria for both tenure and promotion to that rank.
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laohua001
bylaw里面的tenure和promotion并没有分开。请问 如果一个tenure track assistant professor 准备tenure和promotion申请,请问是满足assistant professor - tenure track这一章节下的条件吗? 还是如果包括申请promotion,那么就要满足associate professor - tenure track的条件。
assistant professor - non-tenure track; assistant professor - tenure track; associate professor - non-tenure track; associate professor - tenure track; professor - non-tenure track; professor - tenure track. 
microsat 发表于 2025-07-09 12:33

你太执着太牛了
如果你自己没有独立funding, 即使太牛,你也长不了,而且压力更大,系里更加挤兑你。
你现在要做是先自己独立申请一个funding,其它一切都不是大问题。
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wudadan
回复 1楼 microsat 的帖子
这种事情也能问网友?
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microsat
laohua001 发表于 2025-07-09 12:36
你太执着太牛了
如果你自己没有独立funding, 即使太牛,你也长不了,而且压力更大,系里更加挤兑你。
你现在要做是先自己独立申请一个funding,其它一切都不是大问题。

chatgpt的如下回答是正确的吗? Tenure and promotion to Associate Professor If you are an Assistant Professor on tenure track, your review for tenure usually happens at the same time as promotion to Associate Professor. You look at "Associate Professor – Tenure Track" criteria for both tenure and promotion to that rank.
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laohua001
chatgpt的如下回答是正确的吗? Tenure and promotion to Associate Professor If you are an Assistant Professor on tenure track, your review for tenure usually happens at the same time as promotion to Associate Professor. You look at "Associate Professor – Tenure Track" criteria for both tenure and promotion to that rank.

microsat 发表于 2025-07-09 12:39

理论正确
太牛了,就必须给associate professor title。
给你associate professor tilte 不一定太牛。
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wudadan
microsat 发表于 2025-07-09 12:39
chatgpt的如下回答是正确的吗? Tenure and promotion to Associate Professor If you are an Assistant Professor on tenure track, your review for tenure usually happens at the same time as promotion to Associate Professor. You look at "Associate Professor – Tenure Track" criteria for both tenure and promotion to that rank.

你们学校是ChatGTP决定tennure & promotion?
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microsat
laohua001 发表于 2025-07-09 12:41
理论正确
太牛了,就必须给associate professor title。
给你associate professor tilte 不一定太牛。

请问tenure和promotion用的是同一章节的准则?
associate professor on tenure track, 如果要tenure和promotion,就要 看professor -tenure track章节下的准则?
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laohua001
请问tenure和promotion用的是同一章节的准则?
associate professor on tenure track, 如果要tenure和promotion,就要 看professor -tenure track章节下的准则?
microsat 发表于 2025-07-09 12:44

太牛本身就是promotion, 太牛过,就是associate的title。
promotion 不一定用太牛的policy,因为可以给你从assistant promotion到associate, 但不给你太牛。

小蓝鸟
wudadan 发表于 2025-07-09 12:37
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这种事情也能问网友?

是啊,这都来问网友这tenure和promotion都堪忧啊
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hrshidsb
智商堪忧
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Yuangungun
楼主,你真的有点走火入魔了。。。
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hoohoo001
一般promotion to associate和tenure是同时申请的,所以这两个申请同时通过。 但听说过一个例子,此人tenure通过但是associate没有通过,所以又assisant了几年后才associate的。
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blushpeony
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现在好像promotion 通过 但是没有submit for tenure 也毕竟常见 就是non-tenured associate 感觉promotion可以到了时间就申 没批准也没啥 tenure就一次机会 如果可以延长一两年 大部分都愿意take the extension
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nickbear
都要降薪百分之40了,还不抓紧时间找工作,还在这里纠结tenure和promotion选哪个 真是不知道说什么好
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layjohns
Lz不管是学术问题还是实际问题,都问得让人无语。都被cut FTE了,还在问promotion