问了AI一个小问题,决定以后回国只飞国航,远离美联航

风轻雨
楼主 (北美华人网)
现在回国直飞航班不多。经常飞的航司只有国航和美联航。
刚才问了AI一个小问题,决定以后回国只飞国航,远离美联航。
这个问题是:What issues did United Airlines face in the past year?
同样也问了:What issues did Air China face in the past year?
关于美联航, AI 的回答如下:
In the past year, United Airlines has faced a range of challenges, including operational issues at Newark Liberty International Airport, labor disagreements, and incidents involving their aircraft. These issues have led to flight delays, cancellations, and increased scrutiny of the airline's safety procedures. 
关于国航,AI的回答是:
In the past year (roughly mid-2024 to mid-2025), Air China faced several challenges, primarily related to financial performance and a difficult market environment. 
Key issues Air China has faced include: Financial Losses: Despite efforts to improve operational efficiency and reduce losses compared to the previous year, the company continued to project and report net losses. While Air China's net loss attributable to shareholders improved significantly from 2023, the full-year operations in 2024 were still loss-making, indicating a rough final quarter. Intense Competition and Market Uncertainty: Air China cited increased domestic competition and volatility in international markets as contributing factors to their operational losses. China's "Big Three" airlines, including Air China, warned that domestic competition and supply chain pressures prolonged their losses in 2024. Slow International Travel Recovery: The slower-than-expected rebound in international travel, especially on traditionally advantageous North American routes, impacted Air China's profitability. Despite overall growth in international traffic, the recovery lagged behind pre-pandemic levels.
风轻雨
可以看出,国航的挑战是亏损,是竞争,是市场。
美联航的挑战是飞机安全问题,人员短缺,和空港安全问题。
风轻雨
美联航的incidents, 都是人命关天的
Key points about these incidents: Engine fires: A United flight experienced an engine fire during takeoff, causing an evacuation. The fire was reportedly attributed to a rabbit striking the engine.  Wheel falling off: In another incident, a United plane lost a wheel during takeoff, damaging vehicles on the ground.  Missing panel: A plane was found to be missing a panel after landing, prompting an investigation.  Potential implications: Increased scrutiny: These incidents are likely to draw increased attention from aviation authorities and the public to United Airlines' safety practices.  Investigations: The airline is likely to conduct thorough investigations into the causes of each incident to prevent similar occurrences in the future.  Passenger concerns: These incidents may raise concerns among passengers about the safety of flying with United Airlines. 
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wudadan
回复 1楼 风轻雨 的帖子
坐过的所有航空公司的飞机里头 UA和AA的leg room是最小的
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bbalyssa
我也是有其他航司就不选联航 真是要啥没啥
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shanggj
风轻雨 发表于 2025-06-25 14:00
美联航的incidents, 都是人命关天的
Key points about these incidents: Engine fires: A United flight experienced an engine fire during takeoff, causing an evacuation. The fire was reportedly attributed to a rabbit striking the engine.  Wheel falling off: In another incident, a United plane lost a wheel during takeoff, damaging vehicles on the ground.  Missing panel: A plane was found to be missing a panel after landing, prompting an investigation.  Potential implications: Increased scrutiny: These incidents are likely to draw increased attention from aviation authorities and the public to United Airlines' safety practices.  Investigations: The airline is likely to conduct thorough investigations into the causes of each incident to prevent similar occurrences in the future.  Passenger concerns: These incidents may raise concerns among passengers about the safety of flying with United Airlines. 

刚问了 chatgpt 一样得问题, 和你得到得答案差不多, 然后我问 你推荐我做哪个公司得, 它说 united
风轻雨
shanggj 发表于 2025-06-25 14:22
刚问了 chatgpt 一样得问题, 和你得到得答案差不多, 然后我问 你推荐我做哪个公司得, 它说 united

ChatGPT是美联航的粉丝?
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xdsqc
shanggj 发表于 2025-06-25 14:22
刚问了 chatgpt 一样得问题, 和你得到得答案差不多, 然后我问 你推荐我做哪个公司得, 它说 united

有没有追问WHY?
风轻雨
国航样样好,有一点不如美联航,
国航的票,在美国机场走不了TSA Pre快捷安检通道。
另外,国航座位前边电视屏幕的按键经常有小问题。
金生水起
wudadan 发表于 2025-06-25 14:03
回复 1楼 风轻雨 的帖子
坐过的所有航空公司的飞机里头 UA和AA的leg room是最小的

一定没有坐过纽约直飞北京的国航航班,那个leg room小到我不到100斤的都坐不下来,还没有屏幕没有任何充电孔,座椅超级破,供餐只有两顿,吃不饱。
风轻雨
金生水起 发表于 2025-06-25 14:40
一定没有坐过纽约直飞北京的国航航班,那个leg room小到我不到100斤的都坐不下来,还没有屏幕没有任何充电孔,座椅超级破,供餐只有两顿,吃不饱。

我一般都是西岸飞。感觉还好
纽约到北京,是不是波音747?
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avo
一定没有坐过纽约直飞北京的国航航班,那个leg room小到我不到100斤的都坐不下来,还没有屏幕没有任何充电孔,座椅超级破,供餐只有两顿,吃不饱。
金生水起 发表于 2025-06-25 14:40

正在看票, 谢谢提供数据点! 另外恭喜保持 <100斤!
风轻雨
avo 发表于 2025-06-25 14:55
正在看票, 谢谢提供数据点! 另外恭喜保持 <100斤!

同羡慕
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Grace302
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poopooh
国航是最安全的
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shanggj
xdsqc 发表于 2025-06-25 14:28
有没有追问WHY?

🔎 The key question for you: Is United unsafe? No — despite these incidents, United remains under very strict FAA oversight, with: robust safety systems, effective emergency response (all diversions landed safely), good accident record on transpacific long-haul flights. Most of United’s recent problems were operational reliability and customer inconvenience, not catastrophic safety failures. Now compare to Air China: Fewer publicly reported technical incidents this year But less transparency in reporting More serious customer service failures (e.g. denying boarding to a disabled minor) Chinese regulatory oversight not as transparent as FAA / NTSB oversight in the U.S. Some older aircraft in certain long-haul rotations 🔑 My very honest bottom-line answer: United: Higher operational complexity → more reported incidents → but better transparency, higher safety regulation, better recourse if problems happen. Air China: Fewer public incidents → but somewhat weaker regulatory oversight, service quality issues, and less transparent reporting. 👉 If your #1 concern is absolute safety oversight & recourse → United. 👉 If your main concern is avoiding annoying delays & disruptions → neither is perfect. United may frustrate you more on schedule reliability; Air China may frustrate you more on service standards and transparency.
水光倩影
我这几次回国都订的国航
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meraviglia
美国国内飞,首选 Delta 或者阿拉斯加。
飞中国,首选中国的航司(飞机新),然后是大韩。
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rose2mary
手上好多UA的点,给娃订了两次UA航班假期回家,两次都严重delay,不停更改时间。到家都快天亮了。
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wueda
金生水起 发表于 2025-06-25 14:40
一定没有坐过纽约直飞北京的国航航班,那个leg room小到我不到100斤的都坐不下来,还没有屏幕没有任何充电孔,座椅超级破,供餐只有两顿,吃不饱。

洛杉矶星期天飞北京的那个CA988最好,不绕行,12个小时。比别的航班少两个小时折磨。
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wueda
shanggj 发表于 2025-06-25 15:10
🔎 The key question for you: Is United unsafe? No — despite these incidents, United remains under very strict FAA oversight, with: robust safety systems, effective emergency response (all diversions landed safely), good accident record on transpacific long-haul flights. Most of United’s recent problems were operational reliability and customer inconvenience, not catastrophic safety failures. Now compare to Air China: Fewer publicly reported technical incidents this year But less transparency in reporting More serious customer service failures (e.g. denying boarding to a disabled minor) Chinese regulatory oversight not as transparent as FAA / NTSB oversight in the U.S. Some older aircraft in certain long-haul rotations 🔑 My very honest bottom-line answer: United: Higher operational complexity → more reported incidents → but better transparency, higher safety regulation, better recourse if problems happen. Air China: Fewer public incidents → but somewhat weaker regulatory oversight, service quality issues, and less transparent reporting. 👉 If your #1 concern is absolute safety oversight & recourse → United. 👉 If your main concern is avoiding annoying delays & disruptions → neither is perfect. United may frustrate you more on schedule reliability; Air China may frustrate you more on service standards and transparency.

回答挺有美国政治人物风范
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majia666
回复 1楼 风轻雨 的帖子
这是在你有选择的情况下! 一情前, 纽瓦克UA88飞北京12.5小时。登机口对面是飞上海的。 一清后, 上述航班取消,要去纽约肯尼迪坐国航16小时45分钟飞北京。 且不说从新泽西到肯尼迪的TRAFFIC,我宁可到别的城市倒飞机也不要去肯尼迪。
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Simpson2020
回复 2楼 风轻雨 的帖子
听说美联航的机龄大,放到国航早退休淘汰了。。。。
葭月
去年回国坐的南航,感觉比UA的leg room大,食物还行。
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cs5560
对我来说,出发,到达时间是第一位的,其次是票价,航空公司排在后面。
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sundaysunday
Delta下面挂靠的小航空公司不知道如何,比如Endeavor air
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ply251
majia666 发表于 2025-06-25 15:28
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这是在你有选择的情况下! 一情前, 纽瓦克UA88飞北京12.5小时。登机口对面是飞上海的。 一清后, 上述航班取消,要去纽约肯尼迪坐国航16小时45分钟飞北京。 且不说从新泽西到肯尼迪的TRAFFIC,我宁可到别的城市倒飞机也不要去肯尼迪。

飞行时间没有可比性,现在除了疫情期间保留的航班(JFK是东航飞上海那班)之外,都不给走俄罗斯。东岸飞北京都要从日韩上空绕到渤海湾转进去,硬生生把原来走北极飞13小时到航线拉成了16小时。
国航是为了保证使馆和驻联合国的人员和信件往来(没错,重要外交文件是人肉快递),才硬开的超长航线,是政治任务。美国的航司因为不赚钱一直没开美东去中国的直飞航线。
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yanhren
金生水起 发表于 2025-06-25 14:40
一定没有坐过纽约直飞北京的国航航班,那个leg room小到我不到100斤的都坐不下来,还没有屏幕没有任何充电孔,座椅超级破,供餐只有两顿,吃不饱。

真的吗?没有屏幕没有充电孔?供餐吃不饱?我买的国航,要哭了!
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aijiaIvy
我最近的国航经历挺不好,退票300刀,改签125刀但是新订的票价高的话要补,低的话不退。
简单
回复 2楼 风轻雨 的帖子
难道不是要比较同样路线的美国航班和国航的事故率,晚点率么?这些有得没的观点有p用?拿事实出来说话!
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yanhren
仔细看了一下是Air China operated by United airlines chatgpt问了一下,原来如此:
Air China 是这趟航班的“营销航空公司”(Marketing Carrier) → 你可能在国航官网、OTA(携程/Expedia)上看到这趟航班是“国航”的。 Operated by United Airlines 是指“实际承运人是美联航” → 飞机、机组、服务都是美联航的,乘客会在登机口看到美联航的LOGO和人员。 🧭 为什么会这样? 这叫代码共享航班(Code Share Flight),常见于航空联盟(如国航和美联航都属于“星空联盟 Star Alliance”),主要是为了: 航线覆盖更广(互补航线网络) 增加航班选择 共享常旅客积分
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wueda
简单 发表于 2025-06-25 16:34
回复 2楼 风轻雨 的帖子
难道不是要比较同样路线的美国航班和国航的事故率,晚点率么?这些有得没的观点有p用?拿事实出来说话!

美联航最近一年那些掉轮子,掉机舱门,空中急降几千英尺的事故,国航没有吧
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syzheng
UA 别的不说,感觉飞行员素质不错,每次降落都还挺平稳的
简单
回复 32楼 wueda 的帖子
没有就拿数据说话呀!每个坐飞机的人的需求都不一样。有人愿意冒很微小的risk去避开晚点,他可能就不做国航,楼主这种claim跟傻子似的。
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goodluckall
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请问这么做的理由是出于安全考虑吗?
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bye2020
国航美联航不是一架飞机两个航班号?还是delta南航国航,反正他们都是好多都是share飞机的
风轻雨
bye2020 发表于 2025-06-25 17:13
国航美联航不是一架飞机两个航班号?还是delta南航国航,反正他们都是好多都是share飞机的

国航与美联航都是星空联盟,可以共用航班号。
不过,应该很容易就能找到执飞的航空公司。

风轻雨
简单 发表于 2025-06-25 16:59
回复 32楼 wueda 的帖子
没有就拿数据说话呀!每个坐飞机的人的需求都不一样。有人愿意冒很微小的risk去避开晚点,他可能就不做国航,楼主这种claim跟傻子似的。

你不是傻子,你把美联航的数据拿出来亮亮。
切。
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cactusflowerus
Wow! Never realized UA has this type of issues
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GABA
yanhren 发表于 2025-06-25 16:23
真的吗?没有屏幕没有充电孔?供餐吃不饱?我买的国航,要哭了!

LA 飞北京的国航, 机上有屏幕,有充电的呀。 但我碰到过屏幕坏掉的情况。 我现在都是用机上的网在iPAD上看电影或电视剧。 机上的网是国航的内网, 只能看他们网上提供的东西。
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wueda
syzheng 发表于 2025-06-25 16:54
UA 别的不说,感觉飞行员素质不错,每次降落都还挺平稳的

据说都是空军退役的资深飞行员
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jestjet
为什么不做国泰呢
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wueda
jestjet 发表于 2025-06-25 18:34
为什么不做国泰呢

绕远了
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angelamela
🔎 The key question for you: Is United unsafe? No — despite these incidents, United remains under very strict FAA oversight, with: robust safety systems, effective emergency response (all diversions landed safely), good accident record on transpacific long-haul flights. Most of United’s recent problems were operational reliability and customer inconvenience, not catastrophic safety failures. Now compare to Air China: Fewer publicly reported technical incidents this year But less transparency in reporting More serious customer service failures (e.g. denying boarding to a disabled minor) Chinese regulatory oversight not as transparent as FAA / NTSB oversight in the U.S. Some older aircraft in certain long-haul rotations 🔑 My very honest bottom-line answer: United: Higher operational complexity → more reported incidents → but better transparency, higher safety regulation, better recourse if problems happen. Air China: Fewer public incidents → but somewhat weaker regulatory oversight, service quality issues, and less transparent reporting. 👉 If your #1 concern is absolute safety oversight & recourse → United. 👉 If your main concern is avoiding annoying delays & disruptions → neither is perfect. United may frustrate you more on schedule reliability; Air China may frustrate you more on service standards and transparency.
shanggj 发表于 2025-06-25 15:10

GPT屁股是歪的,非常明显。它是具有西方视角的,很多方面都是,包括文化方面,可别指望它公正。 我最近几个月和它频繁聊天,不仅祛魅了而且觉得它偏见明显,你们多聊聊就知道了。
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绿葱
国航和外航飞中国,最大区别是国航容易被国人欺负, 那些大妈狂抢舱位, 一顶帽子也要占个箱子地方。 搞得我箱子放不上去,好几次要空姐拿到别处去放。 外航他们不太敢这么过分。 中国空姐拿他们也没办法,不抢就没有。 为了减少焦虑, 我选外航,UA或Delta
金生水起
yanhren 发表于 2025-06-25 16:23
真的吗?没有屏幕没有充电孔?供餐吃不饱?我买的国航,要哭了!

如果是纽约飞北京的那班我5月底坐的是没有任何娱乐设施的也没有Wifi,想玩自己的手机都没有充电口,问了空乘说没有任何地方充电,吓得我为了保证下飞机手机还有电也没敢怎么用。 回程就改成美联航北京飞西岸再转东岸,全程WIFI可真是方便多了。
金生水起
供餐吃不饱是真实的,我饭量不大的饿得不行下飞机先吃了一顿才出机场
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smilieface
chatgpt为什么还推united
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smilieface
风轻雨 发表于 2025-06-25 14:26
ChatGPT是美联航的粉丝?

???同问
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wueda
金生水起 发表于 2025-06-25 19:39
供餐吃不饱是真实的,我饭量不大的饿得不行下飞机先吃了一顿才出机场

不好吃,但是吃饱没问题吧。我基本上每餐剩一半。
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oliveandlemon
UA一般是最便宜的
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phoebebobo
回复 1楼 风轻雨 的帖子
有没有可能是国航根本不会报道这些故障 所以根本没有数据.....
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liangcaixin
回复 1楼 风轻雨 的帖子
I would rather die with American pilot, not Chinese pilot.
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goodtht
东航也是,机型老设备旧,不知道什么时候能升级
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my2100
美联航真的特别的差。。
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geneontology
国航的问题:
Mechanical & In‑Flight Safety Incidents Smoke detected → engine fire → emergency landing: On Sept 10, 2023 (impacts extended into late 2024), Flight CA403 from Chengdu to Singapore encountered forward cargo hold and lavatory smoke, followed by engine fire. The A320neo made an emergency landing at Changi with a runway closure and minor injuries to nine people reddit.com+4aeroinside.com+4aviationa2z.com+4. Clear-air turbulence injury: In July 2023, CA1524 (Shanghai→Beijing) encountered severe turbulence causing injury to a passenger and flight attendant aviationa2z.com+7airlive.net+7ecns.cn+7. Emergency exit misuse: In July 2024, a passenger mistakenly opened an emergency exit on CA2754 (Quzhou→Chengdu), triggering slide deployment, flight cancellation, and logistical disruption. While resolved without injury, the incident highlighted passenger confusion and safety protocol breakdowns aeronewsjournal.com. Pilot cockpit vaping → emergency descent: On July 10, 2024, during CA106 (Hong Kong→Dalian), a first officer was found vaping in the cockpit, inadvertently disabling the cabin oxygen system. The cabin experienced an emergency descent (~25,000 ft), oxygen masks deployed, and pilots subsequently lost flight privileges; CAAC fined both pilots and directed safety reviews ch-aviation.com. 🥵 Ground Operations & Passenger Comfort Complaints Sweltering cabin on ground: On May 17, 2024, passengers on flight CA1370 at Sanya were stuck on the tarmac with cabin temperatures >30 °C for prolonged periods, resorting to handheld fans. The airport’s inadequate APU support infrastructure was cited as a key cause aviationa2z.com+8trendingonweibo.com+8ecns.cn+8. 🔧 Operational & IT/Service Complaints Customer service and luggage woes: Reddit threads reveal recurrent frustrations with Air China's customer service—lost/delayed luggage retrievals, unresponsive or limited-contact call centers, and difficulty booking via the airline's website/app reddit.com+2reddit.com+2reddit.com+2.
“Air China lost my luggage; 6 weeks later they found it and making it a nightmare for me to get it back” reddit.com
“Their app… is somehow beautifully designed and atrocious (if you're not Chinese)” reddit.com