猜一下川宝下面折腾什么?

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vraic
楼主 (北美华人网)
折腾关税,折腾哈佛,上周折腾马斯克。我们猜一猜他下个目标折腾啥?我打赌他肯定会继续折腾,而且肯定是折腾让人意想不到的角度。 话说美国还真经得起折腾啊。
落地无声
内战
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teabucket
按照Project 2025 正在继续。 martial law 正在酝酿。 deploy national guards without California governor consent 本是非法的,但是他的借口是insurrection act 通过这个来达到政权军事化的目的
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pwwq
vraic 发表于 2025-06-09 12:22
折腾关税,折腾哈佛,上周折腾马斯克。我们猜一猜他下个目标折腾啥?我打赌他肯定会继续折腾,而且肯定是折腾让人意想不到的角度。 话说美国还真经得起折腾啊。

马斯克 这几天
每天都在给川普的帖子 ”点赞”
马斯克 服软了感觉,
过几天有可能会 把 马斯克 再次 揽入怀里,向大家炫耀
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qianqiuxue
vraic 发表于 2025-06-09 12:22
折腾关税,折腾哈佛,上周折腾马斯克。我们猜一猜他下个目标折腾啥?我打赌他肯定会继续折腾,而且肯定是折腾让人意想不到的角度。 话说美国还真经得起折腾啊。

跟东大谈 如果谈不拢 折腾美华呗
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purplebasil
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终极目标是当皇帝 具体路径不详,他朝令夕改,恐怕自己也不清楚
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destiny2008
得知道他折腾的背后想掩饰啥
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mermaidyuu
vraic 发表于 2025-06-09 12:22
折腾关税,折腾哈佛,上周折腾马斯克。我们猜一猜他下个目标折腾啥?我打赌他肯定会继续折腾,而且肯定是折腾让人意想不到的角度。 话说美国还真经得起折腾啊。

这周主要折腾纽森
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purplebasil
mermaidyuu 发表于 2025-06-09 12:48
这周主要折腾纽森

给纽森涨粉啊
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nomorewaiting
折腾合法移民,绿卡持有者
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teabucket
一天3000肯定不达标,最后会有无数冤假错案。当年文革反右派,也是下了个指标,各级单位为了完成任务,就有了右派扩大化
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xiaohetiao
purplebasil 发表于 2025-06-09 12:51
给纽森涨粉啊

涨不了一点
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shalalala2
purplebasil 发表于 2025-06-09 12:51
给纽森涨粉啊

如果把纽森抓起来真会给他涨粉。
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shalalala2
xiaohetiao 发表于 2025-06-09 13:00
涨不了一点

黄油靠边站。涨不涨粉跟你们没半毛钱关系。
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lesity
这次对纽森来说太重要了,这一步走对对他政治生涯绝对是个boost。TACO越是给加州施压他的机会就越多。
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jellynsyrup
他现在一个trade deal都没签好吧?除了被东大在全世界面前硬刚,连日本欧盟都没亲他屁股到达成协议的地步。外部搞不定,只能内部折腾下老百姓显示他的雄风,估计就是激化内战和实施martial law了
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feemy
shalalala2 发表于 2025-06-09 13:00
如果把纽森抓起来真会给他涨粉。

现在也涨了很多了,纽森大叔不畏强权捍卫自由的演讲,使他看起来更帅了。
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alcra
也就纽森在一线不得不刚一下,民主党都没出来说啥,说明内部还没整合好。
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xiaohetiao
shalalala2 发表于 2025-06-09 13:02
黄油靠边站。涨不涨粉跟你们没半毛钱关系。

莫名其妙,公共论坛还捂嘴,黄左这么霸道
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shubashuba
反正大统领折腾这么些个,让人看清楚了他就是欺软怕硬的主儿,千万不能跪。东大没有跪,哈佛没有跪,大家都点赞。反例:跪了的哥大。
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smilewithme
alcra 发表于 2025-06-09 13:10
也就纽森在一线不得不刚一下,民主党都没出来说啥,说明内部还没整合好。

民主党22个州长已经表态反川了
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teabucket
Walker1921 发表于 2025-06-09 13:11
你是在美国的无知大妈还是翻墙的五毛? 各州的国民卫队平时由州长领导,但总统可以看情况而取谛州长的这项权力而将各州的国民卫队纳入自己的领导!
你传播无知的misinformation 来混淆视听!

你个川粉才是无知吧,在州长反对下强行调动national guards 本来就会有 legal , political and constitutional issues 这都不懂。
国民警卫队设计上隶属于州政府,总统强行接管国民警卫队,只能用 Insurrections 造反叛乱这种借口。 你才在传播misinformation. 当national guards 被总统强行federalized 以后,是不可以用来执行 domestic law-enforcement, 只有那种极端情况比如 insurrection act 才可以辩一下。 你们川粉的思维是不是以为州长和总统是上下级关系? 太幼稚了
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transient
jellynsyrup 发表于 2025-06-09 13:06
他现在一个trade deal都没签好吧?除了被东大在全世界面前硬刚,连日本欧盟都没亲他屁股到达成协议的地步。外部搞不定,只能内部折腾下老百姓显示他的雄风,估计就是激化内战和实施martial law了

啥!200个deal被风给刮跑了吗?
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teabucket
对于national guards 的控制权问题说白了也是 states rights vs federal rights 之间的争斗, national guards by design 应该是给州长用的
国民警卫队的roots 是 colonial militias, 性质上属于 local defense force, 是隶属于州的,这是它存在和设计的初衷
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feemy
teabucket 发表于 2025-06-09 13:23
你个川粉才是无知吧,在州长反对下强行调动national guards 本来就会有 legal , political and constitutional issues 这都不懂。
国民警卫队设计上隶属于州政府,总统强行接管国民警卫队,只能用 Insurrections 造反叛乱这种借口。 你才在传播misinformation. 当national guards 被总统强行federalized 以后,是不可以用来执行 domestic law-enforcement, 只有那种极端情况比如 insurrection act 才可以辩一下。 你们川粉的思维是不是以为州长和总统是上下级关系? 太幼稚了

黄川粉当奴才当习惯了,在他们的世界里,任何人不是主子就是奴隶,不是你给我跪着就是我给你跪着,大家都站着是绝对不允许的。
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Walker1921
teabucket 发表于 2025-06-09 13:23
你个川粉才是无知吧,在州长反对下强行调动national guards 本来就会有 legal , political and constitutional issues 这都不懂。
国民警卫队设计上隶属于州政府,总统强行接管国民警卫队,只能用 Insurrections 造反叛乱这种借口。 你才在传播misinformation. 当national guards 被总统强行federalized 以后,是不可以用来执行 domestic law-enforcement, 只有那种极端情况比如 insurrection act 才可以辩一下。 你们川粉的思维是不是以为州长和总统是上下级关系? 太幼稚了

When Can a President Take Control of the National Guard? A president can federalize the National Guard (i.e., take leadership from a governor) under the following circumstances: 1. Insurrection or Domestic Violence (Insurrection Act): • The president may federalize the National Guard if a state cannot or will not maintain order, enforce federal law, or protect constitutional rights, and the situation rises to the level of insurrection, rebellion, or domestic violence. • Examples: • To suppress an insurrection against federal or state authority (10 U.S.C. § 251). • When a state’s refusal or inability to enforce federal law obstructs its execution (10 U.S.C. § 252). • To protect civil rights when a state fails to do so (10 U.S.C. § 253). • Process: The president must issue a proclamation ordering insurgents to disperse before deploying federalized forces (10 U.S.C. § 254). However, this can be bypassed in urgent cases. 2. National Emergency or War: • Under Title 10, the president can federalize the National Guard during a declared national emergency, war, or other significant threats to national security (e.g., 10 U.S.C. § 12302 for partial mobilization). • Examples: Deployments for World War II, the Iraq War, or post-9/11 operations. 3. Enforcement of Federal Law: • If a governor refuses to enforce federal law or court orders (e.g., desegregation), the president can federalize the Guard to ensure compliance. • Historical example: In 1957, President Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard to enforce school desegregation in Little Rock after Governor Orval Faubus resisted. 4. Request or Consent of the Governor: • A governor may voluntarily request federal assistance, allowing the president to federalize the Guard for missions like disaster response or border security. • Example: Hurricane Katrina (2005), where the Louisiana National Guard was partially federalized to support relief efforts. 5. Other Statutory Authorities: • The president can federalize the Guard for specific missions under laws like the Stafford Act (for disaster relief) or homeland security operations, often in coordination with governors. • Example: Federalizing Guard units for COVID-19 response or border security missions under federal funding. 看得懂英文吗? 满嘴造谣的五毛!
落地无声
对于national guards 的控制权问题说白了也是 states rights vs federal rights 之间的争斗, national guards by design 应该是给州长用的
国民警卫队的roots 是 colonial militias, 性质上属于 local defense force, 是隶属于州的,这是它存在和设计的初衷
teabucket 发表于 2025-06-09 13:25

川粉的逻辑

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teabucket
Walker1921 发表于 2025-06-09 13:36
When Can a President Take Control of the National Guard? A president can federalize the National Guard (i.e., take leadership from a governor) under the following circumstances: 1. Insurrection or Domestic Violence (Insurrection Act): • The president may federalize the National Guard if a state cannot or will not maintain order, enforce federal law, or protect constitutional rights, and the situation rises to the level of insurrection, rebellion, or domestic violence. • Examples: • To suppress an insurrection against federal or state authority (10 U.S.C. § 251). • When a state’s refusal or inability to enforce federal law obstructs its execution (10 U.S.C. § 252). • To protect civil rights when a state fails to do so (10 U.S.C. § 253). • Process: The president must issue a proclamation ordering insurgents to disperse before deploying federalized forces (10 U.S.C. § 254). However, this can be bypassed in urgent cases. 2. National Emergency or War: • Under Title 10, the president can federalize the National Guard during a declared national emergency, war, or other significant threats to national security (e.g., 10 U.S.C. § 12302 for partial mobilization). • Examples: Deployments for World War II, the Iraq War, or post-9/11 operations. 3. Enforcement of Federal Law: • If a governor refuses to enforce federal law or court orders (e.g., desegregation), the president can federalize the Guard to ensure compliance. • Historical example: In 1957, President Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard to enforce school desegregation in Little Rock after Governor Orval Faubus resisted. 4. Request or Consent of the Governor: • A governor may voluntarily request federal assistance, allowing the president to federalize the Guard for missions like disaster response or border security. • Example: Hurricane Katrina (2005), where the Louisiana National Guard was partially federalized to support relief efforts. 5. Other Statutory Authorities: • The president can federalize the Guard for specific missions under laws like the Stafford Act (for disaster relief) or homeland security operations, often in coordination with governors. • Example: Federalizing Guard units for COVID-19 response or border security missions under federal funding. 看得懂英文吗? 满嘴造谣的五毛!

你自己看得懂吗,这不就是我说的极端情况。 而且你貌似连国民警卫队的起源都不懂。 家教不行啊
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Mediterranean
现在也涨了很多了,纽森大叔不畏强权捍卫自由的演讲,使他看起来更帅了。
feemy 发表于 2025-06-09 13:06

是的,不怕不识货就怕货比货。我本来已经不想看到他了,这次再看到他一下觉得他的形象又高大起来了,最烂的民主党政客也比maga强
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teabucket
Insurrection act 最大的争议和问题就是彻底废了 checks and balances. 把政府行政部门军事化而不受监管。 The Insurrection Act has no provisions for oversight or checks and balances, meaning the president has sole authority to decide when to deploy federal troops to enforce the laws of the United States.
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transient
回复 28楼 落地无声 的帖子
把那bitch当年说的都扔还给她脸上
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teabucket
敢和trump 硬钢的政客都值得高看一眼
渔非凡
最好下一步把他自己折腾去见黑白无常
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smile1234
alcra 发表于 2025-06-09 13:10
也就纽森在一线不得不刚一下,民主党都没出来说啥,说明内部还没整合好。

20多个蓝州州长都联合谴责了
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hokiegogogo
purplebasil 发表于 2025-06-09 12:42
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终极目标是当皇帝 具体路径不详,他朝令夕改,恐怕自己也不清楚

多行不义必自毙,人算不如天算,这么大一把年纪了 ,明天说挂就挂了。
那不是有句话吗,明天和意外,谁先来? 送给他
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purplebasil
teabucket 发表于 2025-06-09 13:25
对于national guards 的控制权问题说白了也是 states rights vs federal rights 之间的争斗, national guards by design 应该是给州长用的
国民警卫队的roots 是 colonial militias, 性质上属于 local defense force, 是隶属于州的,这是它存在和设计的初衷

是,典型的联邦权侵犯州权,各位州长得看清楚了,今天侵犯加州,明天就可能侵犯你的州。这是政治体制和宪法的问题,不是左右,也不是红蓝。
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teabucket
纽森面对威胁没跪, come and arrest me


@msnbc In an exclusive interview with NBC News' Jacob Soboroff, California Governor Gavin Newsom addressed White House border czar Tom Homan's threats of arrest. "Tom, arrest me. Let's go," Newsom said. The governor also plans to sue the Trump administration over its deployment of the National Guard. #MSNBC #news #LA #politics ♬ original sound - MSNBC

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落地无声
teabucket 发表于 2025-06-09 13:23
你个川粉才是无知吧,在州长反对下强行调动national guards 本来就会有 legal , political and constitutional issues 这都不懂。
国民警卫队设计上隶属于州政府,总统强行接管国民警卫队,只能用 Insurrections 造反叛乱这种借口。 你才在传播misinformation. 当national guards 被总统强行federalized 以后,是不可以用来执行 domestic law-enforcement, 只有那种极端情况比如 insurrection act 才可以辩一下。 你们川粉的思维是不是以为州长和总统是上下级关系? 太幼稚了

BREAKING: In shocking footage of Trump in 2020 that is now going viral, Trump says it’s against the law for a president to call in the National Guard on his own: “We can't call in the National Guard unless we're requested by a governor.” MAGA = 🤡.

pic.twitter.com/cxYMfYEqay — CALL TO ACTIVISM (@CalltoActivism) June 9, 2025

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落地无声
Perfectly good tomatoes are being plowed over — instead of picked — in South Florida as local farmers blame Trump tariffs, immigration crackdown for business losses and wasted crops. pic.twitter.com/75X4hMlucZ — Bryan Dawson🇺🇸 (@BryanDawsonUSA) June 8, 2025

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shalalala2
teabucket 发表于 2025-06-09 15:58
纽森面对威胁没跪, come and arrest me


@msnbc In an exclusive interview with NBC News' Jacob Soboroff, California Governor Gavin Newsom addressed White House border czar Tom Homan's threats of arrest. "Tom, arrest me. Let's go," Newsom said. The governor also plans to sue the Trump administration over its deployment of the National Guard. #MSNBC #news #LA #politics ♬ original sound - MSNBC

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这个时候被逮捕就跟martyr一样。立马在民主党涨威信。
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shalalala2
敢和trump 硬钢的政客都值得高看一眼
teabucket 发表于 2025-06-09 13:47

不单单政客,还有大学校长,各国元首
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shalalala2
shubashuba 发表于 2025-06-09 13:19
反正大统领折腾这么些个,让人看清楚了他就是欺软怕硬的主儿,千万不能跪。东大没有跪,哈佛没有跪,大家都点赞。反例:跪了的哥大。

纽森估计知道早晚轮到他。毕竟加州是块最大的骨头床铺和走狗早就盯着啃呢。
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shalalala2
feemy 发表于 2025-06-09 13:06
现在也涨了很多了,纽森大叔不畏强权捍卫自由的演讲,使他看起来更帅了。

我隔壁贴的视屏里面真怒了。有一段声音都有点抖了。我原来不待见他,现在真是帅。
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Blueocean23
xiaohetiao 发表于 2025-06-09 13:18
莫名其妙,公共论坛还捂嘴,黄左这么霸道

在黑与白面前,还要去分左跟右吗?
马斯克全力以赴支持他的统领的时候,甚至搞出假的1million lottery,当时政府也没有威胁cancel他的政府合同,要做的也只是法律层面上的提告。美国的民主自由,让马斯克可以无所畏惧地搞科技搞电车发家,也可以让他无所畏惧的发表自己的意见而不担心被威胁,现在呢?
选举中All in,地位如日中天的他,现在有不同的意见,也会被威胁被fear,这说明了什么?
更别说普通人
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shalalala2
xiaohetiao 发表于 2025-06-09 13:18
莫名其妙,公共论坛还捂嘴,黄左这么霸道

我说错什么了?左党领导涨不涨粉跟你一个黄鼬有毛线关系?还涨不了一点。笑死个人。
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teabucket
回复 1楼 vraic 的帖子
右派精神领袖之一Charlie Kirk 发声了,这个画面第一次呼吁legal 也要赶走了,当然冠冕堂皇的借口是这些人不爱美国,谁来定义爱不爱的