lelelele 发表于 2025-06-09 00:49 没错。宇宙法则就是这样在背后运作的, The Law of Karma, Law of attraction, Law of cause and effect。。。宇宙中的一切，没有一件事是偶然发生的。区别就是作为三维世界的人，你自己知道不知道而已。
非也。人类文明之所以堕落，其中很大一个根本原因就是这种受害者心理。这是人类文明的癌症，还是传染性癌症。 别人的苦，我可以理解，但是绝对不会让自己去感受同样的苦。 我为什么要用别人的错误惩罚自己？ The Buddha held to what he called the Golden Rule. 'ALL THAT WE ARE IS THE RESULT OF WHAT WE HAVE THOUGHT.'
支持一下。不止佛法，现代心理学也有victim mentality的说法： Victim mentality or victim complex is a psychological concept referring to a mindset in which a person, or group of people, tends to recognize or consider themselves a victim of the actions of others. The term is also used in reference to the tendency for blaming one's misfortunes on somebody else's misdeeds, which is also referred to as victimism.[1][2] It can develop as a defense mechanism to cope with negative life events.[3]
非也。人类文明之所以堕落，其中很大一个根本原因就是这种受害者心理。这是人类文明的癌症，还是传染性癌症。 别人的苦，我可以理解，但是绝对不会让自己去感受同样的苦。 我为什么要用别人的错误惩罚自己？ The Buddha held to what he called the Golden Rule. 'ALL THAT WE ARE IS THE RESULT OF WHAT WE HAVE THOUGHT.' lelelele 发表于 2025-06-09 01:21
我古文学的不好，但是英文我可以很容易理解： At Benares, the Buddha gave the people his main message. He told them there were four basic truths they should know. 1) All through your life there will be suffering, pain and misery. 2) This suffering is usually caused by selfish cravings and personal desires. 3) This suffering is not a necessity of life and can be overcome. 4) The way to eliminate or reduce suffering in your life, is to follow the examples of "The Eightfold Path." So what about the eightfold Path? 1. Right Knowledge is knowledge of what life is all about. Knowledge of the Four Noble Truths is basic to any further growth as a Buddhist. 2. Right Aspiration means a clear devotion to being on the Path toward Enlightenment. 3. Right Speech involves both clarity of what is said (taking care to say just what is meant) and speaking kindly, and without malice. 4. Right Behavior involves reflecting on one''s behavior and the reasons for it. It also involves five basic laws of behavior for Buddhists: not to kill, steal, lie, drink intoxicants, or commit sexual offenses. 5. Right Livelihood involves choosing an occupation that keeps an individual on the Path. That is, a path that promotes life and well-being, rather than the accumulation of a lot of money. 6. Right Effort means training the will and curbing selfish passions and wants. It also means placing oneself along the Path toward Enlightenment. 7. Right Mindfulness implies continuing self-examination and awareness. The ''Dhammapada,'' a basic Buddhist text, begins, "All we are is the result of what we have thought." 8. Right Concentration is the final step in being absorbed into a state of Nirvana.
lelelele 发表于 2025-06-09 01:39 我古文学的不好，但是英文我可以很容易理解： At Benares, the Buddha gave the people his main message. He told them there were four basic truths they should know. 1) All through your life there will be suffering, pain and misery. 2) This suffering is usually caused by selfish cravings and personal desires. 3) This suffering is not a necessity of life and can be overcome. 4) The way to eliminate or reduce suffering in your life, is to follow the examples of "The Eightfold Path." So what about the eightfold Path? 1. Right Knowledge is knowledge of what life is all about. Knowledge of the Four Noble Truths is basic to any further growth as a Buddhist. 2. Right Aspiration means a clear devotion to being on the Path toward Enlightenment. 3. Right Speech involves both clarity of what is said (taking care to say just what is meant) and speaking kindly, and without malice. 4. Right Behavior involves reflecting on one''s behavior and the reasons for it. It also involves five basic laws of behavior for Buddhists: not to kill, steal, lie, drink intoxicants, or commit sexual offenses. 5. Right Livelihood involves choosing an occupation that keeps an individual on the Path. That is, a path that promotes life and well-being, rather than the accumulation of a lot of money. 6. Right Effort means training the will and curbing selfish passions and wants. It also means placing oneself along the Path toward Enlightenment. 7. Right Mindfulness implies continuing self-examination and awareness. The ''Dhammapada,'' a basic Buddhist text, begins, "All we are is the result of what we have thought." 8. Right Concentration is the final step in being absorbed into a state of Nirvana.
这是对四圣谛Four Noble Truths的解释（苦、集、灭、道）。 八正道 The eightfold path: 即正见、正思惟、正语、正业、正命、正精进、正念、正定。
单纯为了抬杠：可见被车祸被偷窃被抢劫甚至被强奸，都是允许了才受到的伤害？不要judge受害者好吧
没错。宇宙法则就是这样在背后运作的, The Law of Karma, Law of attraction, Law of cause and effect。。。宇宙中的一切，没有一件事是偶然发生的。区别就是作为三维世界的人，你自己知道不知道而已。
你们这种神棍最讨厌了。现实说不过就扯意识，今生不行扯前生，三维不行扯高维。没有人类的同情心还非要高深莫测一番
我认为最大的同情心就是帮助受苦的人理解受苦的缘由，才能解脱受苦。
一个人唯一能做的，就是控制自己，改变自己。觉得自己受别人伤害，就是拒绝承认自己有错的地方，有需要改进的地方，然后下次还会被不同的人伤害。
牛！ 好论点。我就服你赞👍
你差点儿就红二代
最大的同情心是陪受苦者一起感受那份痛苦，而非去告诉受苦者你是做错了什么事，指甲还没想通什么事才受苦的。
你是搞不清“被伤害”和“觉得被伤害”？按你的阿Q理论，别管别人怎么伤害你，只要你“觉得”没被伤害就🟰没被伤害。
这创伤用了整整30年才治愈好。
见过victim blame 可是没见过你这样理直气壮的blame victim 的人。照这样说被强暴的都是自己有错？我想爆粗口。
非也。人类文明之所以堕落，其中很大一个根本原因就是这种受害者心理。这是人类文明的癌症，还是传染性癌症。
别人的苦，我可以理解，但是绝对不会让自己去感受同样的苦。
我为什么要用别人的错误惩罚自己？
The Buddha held to what he called the Golden Rule. 'ALL THAT WE ARE IS THE RESULT OF WHAT WE HAVE THOUGHT.'
原来受苦是因为我有问题，不是因为别人伤害我——多亏你点醒我，不然我还以为是人类社会里真的存在暴力、压迫和不平等呢。你这套“所有问题都源自你自己”的理论真是太方便了，省得你共情，省得你思考，还能站在道德制高点收获一身成就感。这年头连“同情心”都能被用来甩锅，真让人长见识。说到底，你不是想帮助别人走出痛苦，你只是想在别人的伤口上刷出你自己的优越感而已。祝你一辈子都不需要向别人求助，不然你可能会被自己这种逻辑呛死
没错。如果你不把它当成是伤害，而是当做是在偿还过去的孽债，或者说是从中学到了一个教训，你可能心情就是另外一种，比如无债一身轻的释然，或者学到一个人生功课的成就感和喜悦。
你说了我才想起来当时分手后，是不是在实验室外的草坪边走边流泪
十几年前的事我都不记得了，当时估计觉得很伤，现在完全没感觉了
向别人求助，不是因为我自己是受害者，而且我相信人性，知道人与人之间是平等的，可以相互信任相互帮助的。但是我绝对不会把自己该承担的责任转嫁给别人。
当你掌握了自己的命运，你就知道那有多美好了。还有，千万不要以为你有本事度人。连佛祖，也是只度有缘人，
支持一下。不止佛法，现代心理学也有victim mentality的说法：
Victim mentality or victim complex is a psychological concept referring to a mindset in which a person, or group of people, tends to recognize or consider themselves a victim of the actions of others. The term is also used in reference to the tendency for blaming one's misfortunes on somebody else's misdeeds, which is also referred to as victimism.[1][2] It can develop as a defense mechanism to cope with negative life events.[3]
我古文学的不好，但是英文我可以很容易理解：
At Benares, the Buddha gave the people his main message. He told them there were four basic truths they should know. 1) All through your life there will be suffering, pain and misery. 2) This suffering is usually caused by selfish cravings and personal desires. 3) This suffering is not a necessity of life and can be overcome. 4) The way to eliminate or reduce suffering in your life, is to follow the examples of "The Eightfold Path."
So what about the eightfold Path?
1. Right Knowledge is knowledge of what life is all about. Knowledge of the Four Noble Truths is basic to any further growth as a Buddhist. 2. Right Aspiration means a clear devotion to being on the Path toward Enlightenment. 3. Right Speech involves both clarity of what is said (taking care to say just what is meant) and speaking kindly, and without malice. 4. Right Behavior involves reflecting on one''s behavior and the reasons for it. It also involves five basic laws of behavior for Buddhists: not to kill, steal, lie, drink intoxicants, or commit sexual offenses. 5. Right Livelihood involves choosing an occupation that keeps an individual on the Path. That is, a path that promotes life and well-being, rather than the accumulation of a lot of money. 6. Right Effort means training the will and curbing selfish passions and wants. It also means placing oneself along the Path toward Enlightenment. 7. Right Mindfulness implies continuing self-examination and awareness. The ''Dhammapada,'' a basic Buddhist text, begins, "All we are is the result of what we have thought." 8. Right Concentration is the final step in being absorbed into a state of Nirvana.
你妈为啥不让你去照顾你爸？ 也不是她自己受累，为什么不能体谅孩子对父亲的心？ 这个真不理解。
是不是你爸妈感情破裂，离婚了？ 你爸爸再婚了？所以你妈恨你爸？
赞，我觉得真是活久见看到上面神棍的回帖。
这是对四圣谛Four Noble Truths的解释（苦、集、灭、道）。 八正道 The eightfold path: 即正见、正思惟、正语、正业、正命、正精进、正念、正定。
你不要混淆概念，被伤害 不等于 victim mentality.
认清伤害，不等于沉溺其中；拒绝责备自己，并不是推卸责任。 真正的“victim mentality”，是永远不行动，是把世界当成借口，是拒绝为自己的人生负责。
请不要用你对“坚强”的想象，来否定别人面对痛苦的方式。 有些人是在黑暗中慢慢走出来的，你站在阳光里不理解没关系，但请不要用你未经历的轻松，质疑别人走过的泥泞。
如果你不能共情，那就至少别打扰。
没错。因为世界上的大恶都是人做的，狗在作恶这个事情上绝对比人好多了。所以说人类文明堕落了，有些方面连动物都不如了。
谢谢指教。我是对所有真心研读佛教经书的人及其佩服。我尝试过，实在是古文底子太差，理解不了。
按您的理解，上面的英文意思表达的还贴切吗？
我是看的一行禅师的《佛陀的心》的解释，他的英文解释和你的一致。
另外圣严法师的英文翻译听说非常贴切，以后有时间要拜读。
好的，多谢。
也不知道你在骄傲些什么。隔壁信耶稣的还说几句“神爱世人”呢，你们这些个信了佛的倒是“活该倒霉报应”之类的挂嘴上，说好的我佛慈悲呢？哦，对，佛只渡有缘人，我们不配
你恰恰验证我前面说的是对的。
别人做的事是伤害与否，不在于那个事件，而在于当事人去如何解读。
没有离婚，我爸一直很照顾我妈，家务买菜做饭收拾都是他做，去医院的那天还在修柜子门，我回去看到他床头柜上还放着螺丝刀，螺丝和柜子门轴，一切就那么嘎然而止了，他再没家回来。 我妈曾经做过对不起我爸的事。我妈是非常典型的NPD，认为所有人都应该围着她转。
完全没看懂你的逻辑 当然没耽误我觉得你很讨厌，假惺惺
当别人受到了伤害，做不到帮忙，做不到倾听，至少做到闭嘴，而不是云里雾里的抛出无法验证的前世啊，高维啊，暗搓搓的说人活该，然后得意洋洋的显摆你读过佛经好高深。
随便你啊。我爱自己，我也知道上帝在无条件地爱着我。这就足够了。
另外，真正的神是不会嘴上说一套做的却又是另一套的。
还要加上一句，每个人看到的世界，都是幻相，都不过是自己内心的投影罢了，也就是说，你看到的我，并非真正的我，只是你内心的XXXX的投影。XXXX我就不具体说了。
如果一定要抬杠，你可以说你不在乎这些就对你不造成伤害。也确实有点道理，大部分的事情给心理造成的阴影其实是更严重的伤害。
有些时候人受害只是因为世界有恶， 也有作恶的人。 受害者是无，辜，的！
BTW ， 最后耶稣医治好了这个天生眼瞎的。而不是告诉他什么你瞎悟出来的什么”你要自己去承担自己造下这种后果的那部分”.
所以， 神棍ID ， 你神棍就神棍。但请不要以神之名好不好！ 特别是耶稣真的基督之名。😞。 看不下去啊
其实你要真心寻求， 你会发现，所有的宗教都是一个源头，教的东西都差不多，不但是世界上的几大宗教，还有中国的列子，老子，庄子，孔子等等等，都是从不同的角度阐述一个真理。
你自己慢慢滴悟吧。就此打住。
我说的神，是那个唯一的源头，造物主，不是耶稣也不是耶和华。旧约里的耶和华不是神，是外星人、圣经里的GOD，原来的各种版本里都指的是elohim, 意思是指天上来的，也就是外星人。圣经里的外星人种类就何其多也，有来自尼比鲁的，有来自猎户座的，有来自天狼星的。。。。我们地球在漫长的历史长河中，一直被各种外星人光顾，当然有好的也有坏的。所以圣经里的上帝一会儿是仁慈的，一会儿又是暴怒的。
宇宙法则很多，并不是只有因果循环。天生眼瞎，不一定是前世做坏事，而是灵魂这一世想体验眼瞎的感觉。说到底，也是自己选的。既然是自己选的，当然就不能说是受害者。
我怎么觉得你就是想渡人呢。 虽然你讲的都有道理。但在这种语境下说这种话谁爱听呢？
别操心别人，企图说服改变点醒别人了。
不放下对你自己伤害更大。。。这是个残酷的事实。。。你不放下不会对其他人和这个世界产生任何影响，除了你自己和关心你的人。