总统义工奖无限期暂停

停就停呗，为了得奖而做的义工卷也该歇歇了。。

英文里那个词对应“无限期”？

aegeanboat 发表于 2025-05-28 12:17
英文里那个词对应“无限期”？

https://presidentialserviceawards.gov/
When will the PVSA program resume operations? At this time, we do not have a date for when the program will resume. As soon as operations resume, all Certifying Organizations will be notified.

停就停呗，为了得奖而做的义工卷也该歇歇了。。
云一兰 发表于 2025-05-28 12:14

trump也不是一件好事没做

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真心喜欢义工的不会因为停了不做。

呵呵笑 发表于 2025-05-28 12:22
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真心喜欢义工的不会因为停了不做。

very true！

呵呵笑 发表于 2025-05-28 12:22
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真心喜欢义工的不会因为停了不做。

嗯嗯，考验真心的时候来了

还有高中生科研，什么时候不跟升学挂钩，只有真正热爱的孩子去做才好呢。

我孩子做义工的地方就不在这个系统里。虽然他每年义工时长够拿奖但也申请不了。 但孩子很开心做他的义工，不愿意去能拿奖的地方做义工。 这个奖也只是暂停申请，随时都能恢复。

初心是好的，但逐渐的被功利的人abuse了。

义工真的是非常锻炼孩子的。我们从14到现在16，在一个地方300多小时义工，我明显看到他越来越善于跟人交流了。

shubashuba 发表于 2025-05-28 12:30
初心是好的，但逐渐的被功利的人abuse了。

sad

westcampus 发表于 2025-05-28 12:30
义工真的是非常锻炼孩子的。我们从14到现在16，在一个地方300多小时义工，我明显看到他越来越善于跟人交流了。

赞，可以分享一下什么方面的义工吗

呵呵笑 发表于 2025-05-28 12:22
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真心喜欢义工的不会因为停了不做。

你别管人家为了什么而做，做了就是好事啊。子贡赎人的道理。要推广好人好事，不需要什么都不图的圣人做道德楷模，需要的是有效的激励机制。

好在我家娃没有去卷这个玩意儿

这个玩意并没有那么容易卷，需要花大量的时间。时间都被占光了哪里还有时间搞其他的？

早该停了！大部分骗子，玩烂了

挺好的，这个奖被滥用的不行了，已经失去原来的意义了，现在看到哪个孩子有这个奖，只能说明有个推妈

看起来恢复是遥遥无期了，85%的员工下个月就会terminated.
对领福利的美国穷人少了一个资源。

一直不明白这个奖的意义何在，做多少义工不是在申请表上直接填上就行了吗，AO看得见呀，为啥要单发一个奖？

一直不明白这个奖的意义何在，做多少义工不是在申请表上直接填上就行了吗，AO看得见呀，为啥要单发一个奖？
XIAOLI0323 发表于 2025-05-28 12:41

其实就是生意 这个奖需要交钱才能发 虽然很便宜，几块钱而已

这个联邦机构有5,600人，
裁了后就只有100人左右，很多东西都顾不上了。
更正： 是500多个人。中文和美国数字表示方式有点不一样。

2025 U.S. Presidential Scholars 的 semifinalists announced, the final selection 也还没有出来，我女儿还在等，以往早就出来了

Harenough 发表于 2025-05-28 12:45
这个联邦机构有5,600人，
裁了后就只有100人左右，很多东西都顾不上了。

5600？？？ 不得不点赞了

999CAI 发表于 2025-05-28 12:48
5600？？？ 不得不点赞了

sorry， 是500多个人, 600人不到。中文和美国数字表示方式有点不一样。

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要电工、水管工 而不是哈佛LGBTQ研究生。

XIAOLI0323 发表于 2025-05-28 12:41
一直不明白这个奖的意义何在，做多少义工不是在申请表上直接填上就行了吗，AO看得见呀，为啥要单发一个奖？

所谓的“激励机制”吧，很多新手妈妈不懂，看到奖，以为有用
其实有经验的妈妈都知道，华人小孩人手一个义工奖，同质化太高，搞不好还反作用
义工要找well established 组织。图书馆，animal shelter, YMCA, parks… 这些都不发义工奖，没关系，申请时把小时数写上，招生官都明白。
千万不要信那些在微信群里拉人的组织

westcampus 发表于 2025-05-28 12:30
义工真的是非常锻炼孩子的。我们从14到现在16，在一个地方300多小时义工，我明显看到他越来越善于跟人交流了。

做义工不等于申请这个奖啊。我家的义工时间超过那些申请这个奖的人，一次都没申请。

微信上拉小孩进去收钱上培训班，然后找初中，高中生义工上课，许以义工奖
现在还在发帖打广告呢。

CK 发表于 2025-05-28 12:37
这个玩意并没有那么容易卷，需要花大量的时间。时间都被占光了哪里还有时间搞其他的？

我女儿是虽然从来不申请这个奖，但是每年的时间是够了。主要的时间是：假期在summer camp做义工，一个星期40个小时，做三四个星期，包括春假；再平常做中文学校ta，一个星期光是上课时间就2个小时。这些一点都不耽误自己搞其他ec。比起来，感觉更耽误的是春季的体育，跟很多活动，包括ap考试都overlap。

除了义工奖，还有就是自己建立non profit。同样的活动，不愿意在已经有的机构里做事，一定要自己建一个机构，美其名曰leadership。

我们家孩子从小学开始就参加义工，一直坚持到现在快高中毕业了，在高中阶段的义工时间是固定的，但是他服务的组织没有参与办理这个奖项，我们根本无所谓，参加义工有各种其他的益处，咱们送孩子去也不是为了一纸证明。有这个证明挺不错，也是一种奖励，但这不是义工的核心价值。

这个奖本来就没有太大的意义吧，只要孩子实打实的做了义工，有没有这个奖不重要。不过我知道的确有人为了拿这个奖凑义工时间（甚至有的是父母帮忙做事情）。

停就停了。早就变味了。只要还是有义工有小时数就行。关键是义工做了什么。能写出故事和感悟就好。

hiromice 发表于 2025-05-28 12:46
2025 U.S. Presidential Scholars 的 semifinalists announced, the final selection 也还没有出来，我女儿还在等，以往早就出来了

这是两个不同的奖。你家女儿太牛了。

shoon_yee 发表于 2025-05-28 13:17
除了义工奖，还有就是自己建立non profit。同样的活动，不愿意在已经有的机构里做事，一定要自己建一个机构，美其名曰leadership。

自己搞，自己的娃当president，自己的娃的时间随便填呗 所以说玩烂了

从来也不明白这个奖怎么评的

denali 发表于 2025-05-28 13:37
从来也不明白这个奖怎么评的

有个税号就可以，是不是非盈利组织都无所谓 填个时间就好，交几块钱

是没funding被裁员了吗？人手不够了？

Harenough 发表于 2025-05-28 13:11
微信上拉小孩进去收钱上培训班，然后找初中，高中生义工上课，许以义工奖
现在还在发帖打广告呢。

高中生现在都不上当了
只能去骗骗初中生了

挺好的，总算没了

暂停了？我家娃拿过这个奖，对申请大学是有帮助的。

shenandoah1 发表于 2025-05-28 14:27
暂停了？我家娃拿过这个奖，对申请大学是有帮助的。

有用的是孩子做的事，而不是这个奖

取消是好事 让孩子去做自己真正喜欢的事

要是拜登关的，网上肯定一堆批的。哈哈。

ookk 发表于 2025-05-28 12:40
挺好的，这个奖被滥用的不行了，已经失去原来的意义了，现在看到哪个孩子有这个奖，只能说明有个推妈

也有可能是一个信息落后的妈妈

yzhan004 发表于 2025-05-28 12:40
早该停了！大部分骗子，玩烂了

一锅老鼠屎 坏了一锅粥

brownsugar 发表于 2025-05-28 15:22
有用的是孩子做的事，而不是这个奖

这样想是天真了。申请大学的时候，没有空间让你写很多小项的，评估人也没有那么多时间。
义工奖的一个作用，就是把多个小项成就合成一个大项成就，方便评估人来评估。

shenandoah1 发表于 2025-05-28 15:37
这样想是天真了。申请大学的时候，没有空间让你写很多小项的，评估人也没有那么多时间。
义工奖的一个作用，就是把多个小项成就合成一个大项成就，方便评估人来评估。

那如果孩子长期做的义工只有一两项就不会有这个问题了吧。我们本来就打算把孩子的义工放在activities里写。

哪些奖项含金量最高，可以参考这个表。 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score;  USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category;  Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar;  MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal.  NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds),  Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,”  Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Presidential Service Award Volunteering Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless National Honor Roll;  National Society of High School Scholars

到底含金量如何，可以参考一下上面

crystalethan 发表于 2025-05-28 15:41
那如果孩子长期做的义工只有一两项就不会有这个问题了吧。我们本来就打算把孩子的义工放在activities里写。

这种情况是可以的。但也有不少小孩做了很多义工，但分散在不同的活动上，取消义工奖对那样的小孩是不利的。

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的确没有空间写小奖 如果需要写这个奖，只能说没有别的更好的奖 并不能合并什么

90%拿这个奖的人是冲着奖做的义工 我们家娃高中四年也做了几百小时，但不在这个奖的申请范围内

crystalethan 发表于 2025-05-28 15:41
那如果孩子长期做的义工只有一两项就不会有这个问题了吧。我们本来就打算把孩子的义工放在activities里写。

需要纠结这些的话，其实说明这些义工活动不会对录取起太大作用。当然说的是top 大学。义工关键是得有impact.所以说这个奖作用不大。做再多小时，说不出有啥impact也不管用。

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如果说花了时间领不到奖 最着急的就是那些微信里到处拉人的义工组织者了 现在肯定是开始画饼 给国内的娃娃念本英文书都能忽悠出领导力 生怕抬轿子的跑了

云一兰 发表于 2025-05-28 12:14
停就停呗，为了得奖而做的义工卷也该歇歇了。。

是这样的。搞得这种奖太虚伪了

目标T5 的人有这个奖也没地方写。直接写义工活动就行了。不是简单多少小时的问题。

perilea 发表于 2025-05-28 15:46
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的确没有空间写小奖 如果需要写这个奖，只能说没有别的更好的奖 并不能合并什么

如果小孩有IMO金牌级别的大奖，确实是不需要义工奖的。
义工奖比较适合stem成绩优秀，有一些奖项却又没有达到IMO金牌级别，体育方面一般的小孩。它可以证明小孩除了学习，还愿意拿时间关心公益活动，不是只会读书。
说到底，义工奖只是一个加分项。它不能让小孩进T5，但也许可以帮助小孩进T20，或者进入竞争激烈的大公立热门专业。

停就停呗，为了得奖而做的义工卷也该歇歇了。。
云一兰 发表于 2025-05-28 12:14

做好事需要各种形式的鼓励，让人们自觉不自觉地为社会做贡献。要不然为啥富豪们办基金会做慈善，政府给免税。孩子们拿个奖牌都要取消，干吗不把慈善基金会的免税给取消了。一天到晚拿平头老百姓开刀。

perilea 发表于 2025-05-28 15:42
哪些奖项含金量最高，可以参考这个表。 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score;  USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category;  Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar;  MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal.  NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds),  Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,”  Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Presidential Service Award Volunteering Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless National Honor Roll;  National Society of High School Scholars

This information is very helpful!

不是10就是1呀 中间那么多奖都不考虑吗？ 自己的娃100小时花在哪还是要认真想一想

是这样的。搞得这种奖太虚伪了
宝宝宝宝宝 发表于 2025-05-28 16:53

有些历史悠久的大机构搞的义工还是不错的 微信里为了自己娃到处拉人的义工群真是忽悠一个算一个

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前几年玩的人不多，20-21年的娃可能有点用 疫情以后online tutoring开始流行 非盈利都在搞这个，没啥特色了，ao都看吐了

靠义工奖进top20？想多了吧 gpa/sat/ap/research都搞好了吗？

perilea 发表于 2025-05-28 15:42
哪些奖项含金量最高，可以参考这个表。 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score;  USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category;  Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar;  MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal.  NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds),  Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,”  Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Presidential Service Award Volunteering Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless National Honor Roll;  National Society of High School Scholars

我娃同时也是jimmy award nominee, finalist 下个月会出来

hiromice 发表于 2025-05-28 17:24
我娃同时也是jimmy award nominee, finalist 下个月会出来

牛娃👍

lucia 发表于 2025-05-28 17:07
做好事需要各种形式的鼓励，让人们自觉不自觉地为社会做贡献。要不然为啥富豪们办基金会做慈善，政府给免税。孩子们拿个奖牌都要取消，干吗不把慈善基金会的免税给取消了。一天到晚拿平头老百姓开刀。

太多都是父母帮着搞的 做什么贡献 纯粹卷自己卷别人

brownsugar 发表于 2025-05-28 17:21
靠义工奖进top20？想多了吧 gpa/sat/ap/research都搞好了吗？

你别想太多，我家娃已经进了，哈哈。
这是个plus，光靠这个是不行的，也不是说没它不可。说白了，有奥数金牌的不需要，成绩太差的也不需要（反正没用）。
有其它加分项也可以，比如说体育成绩很好也可以，总之不要让人觉得小孩除了读书和stem活动，就没有别的了。

shenandoah1 发表于 2025-05-28 17:43
你别想太多，我家娃已经进了，哈哈。
这是个plus，光靠这个是不行的，也不是说没它不可。说白了，有奥数金牌的不需要，成绩太差的也不需要（反正没用）。
有其它加分项也可以，比如说体育成绩很好也可以，总之不要让人觉得小孩除了读书和stem活动，就没有别的了。

对的 就是这个理

估计朋友圈拉义工会消停一阵

i机器人 发表于 2025-05-28 17:31
太多都是父母帮着搞的 做什么贡献 纯粹卷自己卷别人

反正挺能忽悠的 一套一套的，锻炼什么领导力啥的 做过的家长说点不同意见，就被踢出来

shenandoah1 发表于 2025-05-28 17:43
你别想太多，我家娃已经进了，哈哈。
这是个plus，光靠这个是不行的，也不是说没它不可。说白了，有奥数金牌的不需要，成绩太差的也不需要（反正没用）。
有其它加分项也可以，比如说体育成绩很好也可以，总之不要让人觉得小孩除了读书和stem活动，就没有别的了。

那你娃没这个奖也能进

这奖真是早变味了。大人一通操作，微信群里到处拉人去捡垃圾，去老人院拉琴，算自己家孩子impact。还有什么付费科研，家长也帮着提供数据帮着做，拿奖了就申请selective camp。一通规划，假的不能再假了。藤校就吃这套。

Bigredapple 发表于 2025-05-28 19:42
这奖真是早变味了。大人一通操作，微信群里到处拉人去捡垃圾，去老人院拉琴，算自己家孩子impact。还有什么付费科研，家长也帮着提供数据帮着做，拿奖了就申请selective camp。一通规划，假的不能再假了。藤校就吃这套。

现在吃不吃的真不好说了

不管怎么说，卷义工客观上对社会有贡献。卷体育啥的对社会有毛线贡献？

Harenough 发表于 2025-05-28 12:45
这个联邦机构有5,600人，
裁了后就只有100人左右，很多东西都顾不上了。
更正： 是500多个人。中文和美国数字表示方式有点不一样。

这个机构 5600 人 cut 成 500 人，我认为应该点赞啊！！！

vevehi 发表于 2025-05-28 20:02
这个机构 5600 人 cut 成 500 人，我认为应该点赞啊！！！

500人都太多了。养这么多人就是为了发奖？

500人都太多了。养这么多人就是为了发奖？
MajiaZ 发表于 2025-05-28 20:13

管的活动很多，500个员工平均一个人动员了1万人做义工，我觉得是很值。
学生发这个奖只是其中很小一部分。
一个员工开支30万的话，动员一个人花了$30刀，这个志愿工可能干了好多个小时，还是便宜。

shoon_yee 发表于 2025-05-28 13:17
除了义工奖，还有就是自己建立non profit。同样的活动，不愿意在已经有的机构里做事，一定要自己建一个机构，美其名曰leadership。

都是这个套路 就是有人上当

Harenough 发表于 2025-05-28 20:23
管的活动很多，500个员工平均一个人动员了1万人做义工，我觉得是很值。
学生发这个奖只是其中很小一部分。
一个员工开支30万的话，动员一个人花了$30刀，这个志愿工可能干了好多个小时，还是便宜。

必须得发奖才能做义工的，动员也就是一时只为这个做。有什么意义，培养一堆人什么事情都要这么功利。

perilea 发表于 2025-05-28 15:42
哪些奖项含金量最高，可以参考这个表。 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score;  USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category;  Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar;  MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal.  NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds),  Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,”  Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Presidential Service Award Volunteering Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless National Honor Roll;  National Society of High School Scholars

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MajiaZ 发表于 2025-05-28 20:41
必须得发奖才能做义工的，动员也就是一时只为这个做。有什么意义，培养一堆人什么事情都要这么功利。

不是这个联邦机构的错。这个机构就是打印一张纸，发一个奖。很一些美国成年人拿了个终身奖，几千个小时义工，就是自豪而已。
是大学搞什么holistic approach，把这些leadership 看得太重，让一些家长/机构去钻了空子。
大学看leadership，看科研，看一代低收入，太过了一点，该有所纠正。

perilea 发表于 2025-05-28 15:42
哪些奖项含金量最高，可以参考这个表。 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score;  USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category;  Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar;  MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal.  NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds),  Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,”  Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Presidential Service Award Volunteering Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless National Honor Roll;  National Society of High School Scholars

学习了，好多都没听说过

做了好事做了贡献就应该被奖励，要不要去参加领奖是个人选择，但是鼓励机制还是要有才好

Bigredapple 发表于 2025-05-28 19:42
这奖真是早变味了。大人一通操作，微信群里到处拉人去捡垃圾，去老人院拉琴，算自己家孩子impact。还有什么付费科研，家长也帮着提供数据帮着做，拿奖了就申请selective camp。一通规划，假的不能再假了。藤校就吃这套。

现在已经不吃了

图书馆等一些为人服务的地方将很难找到volunteer了

Harenough 发表于 2025-05-29 10:10
不是这个联邦机构的错。这个机构就是打印一张纸，发一个奖。很一些美国成年人拿了个终身奖，几千个小时义工，就是自豪而已。
是大学搞什么holistic approach，把这些leadership 看得太重，让一些家长/机构去钻了空子。
大学看leadership，看科研，看一代低收入，太过了一点，该有所纠正。

不能只怪大学吧，也得怪什么都为利益钻空子的父母和学生。

perilea 发表于 2025-05-28 15:42
哪些奖项含金量最高，可以参考这个表。 10: Congrats D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score;  USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category;  Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar;  MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal.  NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds),  Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,”  Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Presidential Service Award Volunteering Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless National Honor Roll;  National Society of High School Scholars

收藏。哪些奖项对申请大学有帮助。

shoon_yee 发表于 2025-05-29 11:15
不能只怪大学吧，也得怪什么都为利益钻空子的父母和学生。

怪别人都没有用，远离微信群义工 让孩子选自己喜欢的擅长的事情做

挺好，很多类似的事早就失去了最初设立的意义

hiromice 发表于 2025-05-28 12:46
2025 U.S. Presidential Scholars 的 semifinalists announced, the final selection 也还没有出来，我女儿还在等，以往早就出来了

你说的总统奖和这个帖子说的不是一个奖。你的那个是SAT1590以上才有资格申请的奖，这个是做义工小时到了就可以得的奖。

椰丝球 发表于 2025-05-29 10:59
做了好事做了贡献就应该被奖励，要不要去参加领奖是个人选择，但是鼓励机制还是要有才好

不管动机如何，毕竟还是做了，总比大家都不去做义工强吧。有谁做事情又是完全无私的。

WhereSoulSettle 发表于 2025-05-29 12:43
不管动机如何，毕竟还是做了，总比大家都不去做义工强吧。有谁做事情又是完全无私的。

确实，在这里diss这个奖太功利或者注水的人，按他们的逻辑，那给学生颁发的所有奖项都取消好了 。 因为基本上所有奖项都会有为了得奖而做，为了升学而做的嫌疑。
以偏概全，因为一点问题否认全部，就是这些人的奇葩逻辑。
义工奖至少鼓励孩子们做义工（即使有注水嫌疑），但带来的积极意义比负面意义大多了，孩子在经历中学到东西，对社会有付出贡献，怎么都是应该鼓励的，就算不能100%有效，但水至清无鱼的道理不懂吗。

停就停呗，为了得奖而做的义工卷也该歇歇了。。
云一兰 发表于 2025-05-28 12:14

以前卷义工奖的，估计很快又会找到新的卷方向，比如高中生科研，会多起来吧

horserun 发表于 2025-05-28 19:11
那你娃没这个奖也能进

这个我们也不知道，就是康嫂看到这个说是个加分项。我家娃stem活动多，在学校自己的乐团拉拉大提琴，除此没有什么别的特长。每个小孩的情况都不一样吧，不好以偏概全。

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嗯嗯，的确不能一概而论 很多义工还是挺锻炼小孩子的 那些在微信里家长到处摇人的还是算了吧