Medical Debt and Credit Reports: Traditionally, if a medical bill was not paid, it could be sent to a collections agency, and this information would be reported to the credit bureaus. This could negatively impact your credit score. The New Rule: In early 2025, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) finalized a rule to remove medical debt from credit reports and prohibit lenders from using it in credit decisions. The CFPB stated that this rule would remove an estimated $49 billion in medical debt from credit reports for nearly 15 million Americans, according to the American Hospital Association. Temporary Delay: While the rule was scheduled to go into effect, a federal judge in Texas granted a 90-day "stay" in a lawsuit against the CFPB rule, delaying its implementation until June 15, 2025. The court will resume consideration of the case in mid-May. Impact of the Rule: The new rule is intended to prevent medical debt from negatively impacting credit scores and to protect consumers from the stress of having medical bills affect their creditworthiness. Collections Agencies: Even with the new rule, if a medical bill is not paid, the provider may still turn it over to a collections agency. However, the collections agency will no longer be able to report it to the credit bureaus. What to Do: If you have a medical bill, it's best to pay it or work out a payment plan with the provider to avoid having it sent to collections. If you are unable to pay the full amount, you can still pay down the debt below $500 to reduce its impact on your credit.
回复 28楼 yayapig 的帖子 In the most recent report available, the Office of Inspector General (OIG) found Medicare Advantage Organizations overturned 75% of their own pre-authorization and claim denials during a two year period. The report found that very few providers appealed the MAO denials during the study period (1%), but those that did faced favorable odds. The following are five steps to take when your claims are denied for no authorization. 看了几个例子,可以有14天的时间,而且楼主情况特殊,孩子早产,保险公司只规定3天就是恶心人。走小额法庭是最实际的做法。
现在想问下:
(1) 如果我继续不付这9000多的账单,今年8月要进collection。请问进了collection 会怎样? 这个账单是变多还是变少?有些朋友说进了collection,9000多账单会变10000多因为要collection公司要产生一些律师费服务费啥的。而且现在大数据了,人家collection公司会pull bureau的information,比如w2啥的,发现我有能力付这个账单,会把这个账单多加很多服务费。如果我还不付最后说不定要起述我,直接从工资里扣钱,以后影响信用记录和background check。坐标德州,请问德州是否有什么有效追述期,比如超过5年的medical bill可以不用在付了。
(2) 给医院的CEO也写信打了电话,也没用。 也打电话也问了律师,没有律师愿意接我的case,主要是钱不多。请问除了DOI之外还有什么可以申述的地方像我们这种case?或者大家都是怎么处理类似我这种情况的。
平时都交天价保费
贪婪到邪恶
CFPB 已经 Bans medical bills on credit reports。
好好努力,多挣钱,move on。
不要在乎 宁可需要高信用的时候请律师
是呀。而且Aetna还是个大公司
‘’进了Collection很麻烦,以后买房申请信用卡都有问题‘’----这是误解!你试过吗?
还真的不是保险公司的错。这是美国医疗系统的毛病。 没有保持公司,你更惨! 要怪,就怪从医学院开始就学费高的惊人。 最简单的例子,你不买保险试试看啊。 是不是更贵?这说明不是保险公司的罪啊。这个道理能明白不?
纯粹扯淡! 哪一个因为病了而破产的? 你见过吗?
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/11/this-is-the-real-reason-most-americans-file-for-bankruptcy.html
我遇到过 开出租车
人家真的一分不付 还买小船天天玩
怎么不是,为了提高拒保效率还上了AI
不看他们营收怎么一年一年上涨的?
这怎么来的,不是楼主这样的情况的积累么。
我经历过两次. 最后都没搞定, 交了, 弄一个无息payment plan, 每个月慢慢交, 会略略好受些. 和这些机构扯皮, 太耗人, 我们真是斗不过.
恩 out of pocket max=12000.去年我们家一共花了11000多out of pocket。所以如果保险能赔付这笔费用的话,我估计最后账单最多也就是1000不到的样子。
我的保险是住院/急诊24小时内必须自己打电话要pre authorization. 幸好我这些年就没病过, 家人生病我都是第一时间打电话, 生孩子我可以提前要pre authorization. 我觉得我已经是很小心了, 最后还是被保险公司坑过好几次.
她这个情况, 应该告医院billing department. 保险公司已经规定了3天的时间, 拿到法庭上他们是有理的.
我见过 40多岁 慢性肾病 保险公司以pre existing据保 破产 20多年的积蓄归零
我以我的亲身经历告诉你 因为一个没有付的$50 医疗账单,读书搬家没收到,最后去了collection。我买车的利率是十几,买房大家2-3 时候我是5点几
In the most recent report available, the Office of Inspector General (OIG) found Medicare Advantage Organizations overturned 75% of their own pre-authorization and claim denials during a two year period. The report found that very few providers appealed the MAO denials during the study period (1%), but those that did faced favorable odds. The following are five steps to take when your claims are denied for no authorization.
看了几个例子,可以有14天的时间,而且楼主情况特殊,孩子早产,保险公司只规定3天就是恶心人。走小额法庭是最实际的做法。
但是对于这种生孩子进NICU的,pre-auth只是走个形式,保险公司没有理由不批准,因此导致医院并没有很严格地遵从时间规定。如果告到法院,法官会问,如果按照时间来申请的话,你保险公司会不会赔付,答案如果是肯定的话,那保险公司就是拿着很不重要的时间规定,bad faith来拒付保险。bad faith是违法的。
这个事情我觉得保险公司的责任占9成,医院占1成。我觉得你可以继续找department of insurance 让他们施压。不行的话就上法庭告保险公司bad faith。
Mark 感觉这个社会饿死胆小的,撑死胆大的
我也认为医疗系统比保险系统更腐败。 医院bill 两万多刀, 保险公司议价后降到九千刀。 医院凭什么漫天要价,非得等保险公司议价才降到稍微合理的价位? 没有保险的个人就是待宰羔羊。
请问最后你付了没?感谢
对啊,为啥人人都在骂保险公司,明明是医院的责任。 我自己每次遇上这种纠纷基本上都是医院的问题。我每次都是跟医院据理力争。 还有楼主如果不付的话,应该是不影响信用的,最后医院一般会给更多discount
医院也过来,而且保险公司就喜欢拿这种和保险公司paperwork technicality 问题大作文章拒绝你。问题不是大家忘了这忘了那而是这个狗屁系统为什么这么复杂然后个人如此无力还得买单
妈的,医疗系统的错,一起抢劫病人!
worst healthcare system in the galaxy
医院说他们在规定时间交了notice并及时通知了保险。而且医院说我们生娃之前签了consent form,如果保险不赔付,就应该由病人承担费用 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 这种general consent, 没有具体金额,是没有法律效应的。 我以前碰到过保险公司deny 一个测试,问我有没有签过有数额具体的单独合同,并告诉我没有签这样的合同不要去付钱
为啥要先付钱再去小额法庭?
病人的obligation? 保险公司给科普的? 病人怎么知道?
另外,自己都昏昏沉沉,没有医生的medical records, 怎么去 prior authorization?
我也觉得是医院故意的
Mark
看得我瑟瑟发抖
听说是最烂的,比UHC差很多,一个医生对我说的
写在每年发的手册上,hr 也给我们一直强调。就是病人必须先给他们打电话,告诉他们基本情况,在哪个医院什么的, 他们标注后,医院再给他们发材料。 这个规定完全莫名其妙, 但大家也都忍了,一点办法都没有。