有两个人证，这二级谋杀的罪名几乎肯定会成立。这几个小孩做的事确实很烦人，但这不是用枪的理由。 美国枪支管的太松。以前还有个案例，有人对小孩开枪，只是因为小孩太吵了。 Butler claimed to detectives that a trio of teens were trying to break into his house, but the wounded teenager insisted they were only recording a prank that would later be shared on TikTok, according to police documents obtained by local outlets. The boy, who suffered a graze wound, said the group was looking for a place to hide when a series of gunshots went off, the Fredericksburg Free Lance Star reported. The third teen, who was not harmed, also reportedly told police they were playing “ding dong ditch” — which involves knocking on a front door or ringing a doorbell and making a run for it, NBC 4 Washington reported.
saison 发表于 2025-05-10 12:45 希望无罪释放。几个人高马大的白人壮汉半夜砸门，凭什么觉得不是变态随机的杀人犯来了？？？而且是白人砸黑人门，也许是maga来杀人了呢，1/6都忘记了么，他们什么做不出来。他们自己说开玩笑，可是有任何一点点行为能让屋主觉得是玩笑么？谁能证明屋主不自卫他们不会冲进去
AI Overview In April 2023, Ralph Yarl, a 16-year-old, was shot after mistakenly going to the wrong house to pick up his younger brothers. Andrew Lester, the homeowner, then 86, opened fire, and Yarl was struck in the head and arm. Lester pleaded guilty to second-degree assault and was sentenced to prison, according to CNN,. Lester died in February 2025, weeks before his scheduled sentencing.
Sometimes we adults are the last to know about social media trends. So, we want to make you aware of a concerning TikTok trend known as the “Chromebook Challenge”. Sadly, this challenge encourages students to intentionally damage school-issued Chromebooks, often by inserting metal objects like paper clips or pencil lead into Chromebook ports, which can cause electrical shorts, sparks, or potential fires. Not only is it unsafe, but it could damage or destroy district property. Thankfully, no incidents have been reported in our district. I know that could change, however, which is why I am asking for your support. Please remind your students that damaging district property will not be tolerated. Please also note that intentionally damaging or destroying Chromebooks is not covered by Chromebook care plans and under California Education Code 48900 (f) can be cause for suspension and even expulsion. There are less than three weeks before the end of the school year, we don't want to see our students miss out on graduations, promotions, celebrations, and culminating activities. 这是我们学区刚发的信
你这真是想多了，是恶作剧又怎么样呢？弗吉尼亚有关使用枪支的法律是这样的，如果你要开枪，只能是为了阻止死亡或重大人身伤害的威胁。 In Virginia, the laws regarding self-defense and the use of deadly (lethal) force are based primarily on the decisions from court cases and are, therefore, common law. In a self-defense situation, Virginia is a “stand-your-ground” state. Here are some of the ways you can defend yourself legally. It is legal to use force to defend yourself against another person in any location, including in your home, in your yard, at work, at a store, or in church. You may use deadly force if: Someone attacks you and… The attack is not the result of your misconduct and… You reasonably fear that you, or another innocent party, are in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm from the attacker. If an attack is a result of your own misconduct, you must retreat and let the attacker know that you do not want to fight. If the attacker continues anyway, you may then use force to stop them. You may use force against a trespasser if the trespasser refuses to leave after being ordered to go. However, the force involved may not endanger human life or cause great bodily harm. It is also illegal to brandish a deadly weapon to defend your personal property.
shenandoah1 发表于 2025-05-10 14:56 你这真是想多了，是恶作剧又怎么样呢？弗吉尼亚有关使用枪支的法律是这样的，如果你要开枪，只能是为了阻止死亡或重大人身伤害的威胁。 In Virginia, the laws regarding self-defense and the use of deadly (lethal) force are based primarily on the decisions from court cases and are, therefore, common law. In a self-defense situation, Virginia is a “stand-your-ground” state. Here are some of the ways you can defend yourself legally. It is legal to use force to defend yourself against another person in any location, including in your home, in your yard, at work, at a store, or in church. You may use deadly force if: Someone attacks you and… The attack is not the result of your misconduct and… You reasonably fear that you, or another innocent party, are in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm from the attacker. If an attack is a result of your own misconduct, you must retreat and let the attacker know that you do not want to fight. If the attacker continues anyway, you may then use force to stop them. You may use force against a trespasser if the trespasser refuses to leave after being ordered to go. However, the force involved may not endanger human life or cause great bodily harm. It is also illegal to brandish a deadly weapon to defend your personal property.
你弄错了吧，那个人被判了25年。 在美国，很多情况下个人不得不用枪支来保护自己，但一定要知道什么时候用枪是合法的，什么时候不能用，否则还不如不买枪。 CNN — A judge strongly admonished a 66-year-old man Friday before sentencing him to 25 years to life in prison for shooting and killing a woman who was a passenger in a car that mistakenly drove up his driveway in rural New York last year. “I think you really could possibly do the same thing again,” Washington County Judge Adam Michelini told Kevin Monahan before imposing his sentence for second-degree murder. “It’s obvious to me that you feel justified. You don’t take any responsibility for the outcome of your actions. You just don’t get it.”
5月3日凌晨，18岁的少年麦可·波斯沃斯（Michael Bosworth Jr.）和两个未成年的朋友潜入佛吉尼亚州弗瑞吉克斯堡（Fredericksburg）社区，准备挑战该游戏。
据史波夕维尼亚郡（Spotsylvania County）警局说明，5月3日凌晨3点左右，他们接到报案称麦肯锡路（Mackenzie Circle）一户人家遭遇“可疑入侵”，屋主“开枪自卫”。警方抵达现场时发现两名青少年中弹，另有一人未受伤。18岁的波斯沃斯送医后伤重不治，另一名中弹的未成年人伤势较轻，已于当日出院。
据悉，三人当时举着手机准备将这段恶作剧拍摄下来，没想到却拍摄到了自己被枪击的画面。
三个少年坚称，他们从未试图闯门或入侵，手机录像显示整个过程只是“玩笑行为”。其中一名幸存者在警方录口供时表示：“我们只是想录段有趣的TikTok视频，没想到竟成了送命游戏。”
屋主、27岁的泰勒·蔡斯·巴特勒（Tyler Chase Butler）开枪后，随即被警方以二级谋杀罪、恶意伤人罪及非法使用枪械等罪名逮捕。根据警方初步陈述，巴特勒声称当晚有人试图“闯入其住宅”，而他是出于自卫才开枪。
悲剧发生后，原本应与他共舞的女友、同校啦啦队员，仍选择带着他生前的蝴蝶领结，绑在手腕上赴会，象征他“精神与她同在”。 她在Instagram上发文悼念：“我不敢相信这是真的，我仿佛活在一场永无止境的梦魇里……但它却是我的现实。你永远是我最爱的人。”她并分享两人过往甜蜜合照，引发网友大量留言哀悼。
这起悲剧也再次点燃了社会各界对社交媒体“挑战文化”（challenge culture）的强烈担忧。以TikTok为代表的平台近年来频频出现所谓“恶作剧”视频，青少年为博取点击率与关注度，不惜模仿极端甚至危险行为。这类内容表面上打着“搞笑”或“挑战”的旗号，实则早已偏离边界，演变成违法甚至暴力行为。
从“叮咚落跑”到“窒息挑战”（blackout challenge），从在课堂上突然攻击老师，到在校园偷盗物品、破坏公物，甚至发起“抢车挑战”（如Kia Challenge）等行为，不仅已经跨越了恶作剧与娱乐的界限，更造成了真实的人员伤害与财产损失。美国校园安全组织警告，这种挑战行为在青少年间形成“病毒式扩散”，一旦模仿效应被激发，难以收拾。 舆论认为，社交媒体平台在内容审核上仍有严重漏洞，算法机制更是助长了“越极端越热门”的畸形传播路径。同时，家长、学校与监管机构对于未成年使用社交媒体的监督和教育，也存在缺口。学者指出，“这是科技、文化、监管三重失守的结果。” 本案也成为一个警钟：在高度互联的社交媒体时代，青少年的一时“玩笑”，可能引发不可挽回的后果；而社会若继续放任此类内容泛滥，类似的悲剧恐怕不会是最后一次。
另外，根据弗吉尼亚州合法使用自卫（包括致命武力）需满足以下条件： 合理信念：防卫者必须真诚且合理地相信，自己或他人正面临非法、迫在眉睫的身体伤害或死亡威胁。 迫在眉睫的威胁：仅当威胁是即时且明显的，使用武力才被视为正当。 合理的武力使用：所使用的武力必须与所面临的威胁相称。 无过错方：防卫者在事件中不得是挑衅者或攻击的发起者。 弗吉尼亚州的“城堡法则”允许居民在家中面对非法入侵者时使用武力，但只有在合理相信入侵者意图造成严重伤害或死亡的情况下，使用致命武力才被视为合法。 需要注意的是，弗吉尼亚州并未明文规定“坚守不退让”（Stand Your Ground），但法院判例支持在特定情况下无需退让即可进行自卫。 在类似弗雷德里克斯堡事件中，若屋主无法证明其面临迫在眉睫的严重威胁，使用致命武力可能被视为过度防卫，面临刑事指控。
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我之前冬天有一晚出门忘记带钥匙自动锁上了 我穿个短袖短裤去按邻居家门铃还好没出事 我当时真挺害怕的
据说这个是踹门.
maga: 吊死
🛋️ 沙发板凳
是深夜按门铃，和白天的普通按门铃可不一样
深夜突然门铃响，太诡异了，正常人当然马上想防备
这也不是开枪的理由。最后肯定会被重判，赔偿也会很高。这种事情发生过多次了。
从年轻人的角度来说，最好也不要这样做。美国持枪的人中，有一些其实不太正常，美国控枪太松了。
有在超市打开冰激凌舔一舔再放回去的
有勒住别人脖子看谁憋气时间长，结果真有人憋S的
每次都得闹大了才收敛，太可恶了
的确死得冤。
但是年轻人根本不应该这样做，而不是“最好也不要这样做”。
反过来可能会轻判，前几年也可能轻判，现在肯定重判
社媒的特点就是传播快，传播广，跟内容好坏没有关系。很多好事也在社媒上大量传播。 以前流行的冰桶挑战是好事吗那么多名人参加? 如果说我们要传播好的不要传播坏的，那么又回到那个问题，谁来定义好坏.谁有这个权力控制定义.
我从来不开门。不管敲多久。就是躲在门后瑟瑟发抖
这要是换个肤色，manslaughter顶天了，说不定直接就不起诉了。现在是起诉二级谋杀。
最近是把学校电脑搞短路引起失火，
疯了吧你，活该被打死？青少年搞恶作剧的确非常的错误，但不到可以自卫为理由开枪杀他们的程度。
门没有开，屋主如果觉得有威胁，持枪准备自卫同时拨打911即可。这杀人绝对不是justified的。
所幸这是VA，杀人的家伙准备坐牢吧。
对呀 18岁了 真不小了
有两个人证，这二级谋杀的罪名几乎肯定会成立。这几个小孩做的事确实很烦人，但这不是用枪的理由。
美国枪支管的太松。以前还有个案例，有人对小孩开枪，只是因为小孩太吵了。
Butler claimed to detectives that a trio of teens were trying to break into his house, but the wounded teenager insisted they were only recording a prank that would later be shared on TikTok, according to police documents obtained by local outlets.
The boy, who suffered a graze wound, said the group was looking for a place to hide when a series of gunshots went off, the Fredericksburg Free Lance Star reported.
The third teen, who was not harmed, also reportedly told police they were playing “ding dong ditch” — which involves knocking on a front door or ringing a doorbell and making a run for it, NBC 4 Washington reported.
如果屋主只一个人，势单力薄的，为了先下手为强而开枪，其实挺情有可原的
毕竟深夜里3个不速之客在门外，谁会不害怕
嗯，还是应该隔着门问一下的。或许是陌生人求助呢
这样做是违法的，铁定要坐牢，只要有人证或视频。
如果真的要拥枪，第一要学的就是法律知识，否则还不如不买枪。
是的 媒体淡化了 他们不是按门铃 是使劲踹门 非常讨厌。要不是住在兰州 真想拿枪吓唬他们一下
你想的太简单了 你太善良了 这些孩子半夜砸门 我吓到以为出什么意外了 一家人都被吵醒了 邻居的狗都狂叫
所以你还是有理智的，知道先吓唬他们一下，甚至warning shot也好，而不是直接开枪爆头
这种有门作为屏障和掩体的情况下，自卫杀人的理由需要过得了陪审团一关。
我也记的这个，我觉得这个黑人不应该比那个老白男判的更重，但现实如何就只能拭目以待了。
真实案例，西雅图有匪徒就是这样想进入房间。房主直接隔着门开枪，匪徒不知道怎么样了。
这不是平台该管的事儿，这是警察应该出手的事儿。
那人认罪了，但在判决之前去世了。
这个案例比较清晰，屋主是不是黑人关系都不大了。
是悲剧，主要责任在少年
他去敲门的时候就没存善心，那不过是恶有恶报他没有资格埋怨
作为成年的我们的确要学一下这件事，想办法万一发生了，尽量保持理智， 但也只能尽量
我就不明白了，凭啥只要求受害者要理智？ 这里的受害者是屋主。
少年就可以完全随心所欲，完全不用考虑理智这件事？大人只能忍了又忍
就因为有你们这种自以为是的“道德标兵”， 所以坏人现在一点都无所惧，还可以反过来责怪受害者这个问题，那没做好的。
现在是法不责，民自保的权利都没有了
谁正常人三点钟去别人家按门铃
违法犯罪的事情，平台当然该管，不信你让毒贩子去平台上公开贩毒看看平台是不是会被判罚
那塊空間已經是私人空間了 構成 transpassing
半夜来敲门而且肯定不是温柔的敲， 三个男的， 成年人体型， 估计还砸门发出怪声吓唬人。被打真是活该自找的。 房主是黑人吧 打死白人了 估计最后如果判刑是吃亏在这里 不知他有没有钱请好律师。
以前黑人少年白天老老实实敲门送货都有被屋主开枪打死的 那才是真的冤枉。
监控视频挂在Nextdoor 上， 也找邻居问谁拍到清晰大头了贴出来，直接网上开骂 ，同时广而告之自己已经报警（要真的报警 把视频上交警察局。
屋主真的冤枉 倒霉。这种就看律师给不给力， 无罪辩护并不难，律师够水平就可以搞定。以及看陪审团的想法。 如果是白人屋主开枪打半夜砸门的三个黑人青年，又会怎么判？ 呵呵。
使劲踹门，这和试图入室抢劫有什么区别？屋主还不能算正当防卫？
那些说屋主要理智的也比较可笑，屋主又不知道这是tiktok 恶作剧。紧急情况，难道不是自己保命最重要？
上次还有比赛吃洗衣服的pod, 真是应了达尔文主义
看清楚，这是恶作剧，很下来的好吧。半夜有人来按门铃，你起了又完全看不到人。多次反复，你睡下，他又来按，按了又躲起来。 这种房主应该被轻判，希望律师能好好帮他辩护。
我也收到学校email，smoking laptop。
说不准真的就是maga来杀人，只不过被屋主反杀了两个，发现占不到便宜，然后才开始哭天抹泪装可怜说自己就是开玩笑。
是啊，开个屁玩笑，张口就来啊，你们说是tiktok教的就应该被采信么。谁知道是不是故意造舆论，赖到tiktok头上，其实是有预谋的仇恨谋杀人家黑人呢。这世界上有人是看了tiktok去搞破坏，那这几个白人壮汉就也是？在现在这环境下，他们这种成群白人壮男半夜砸门的行为，有色人种怎么能觉得不是威胁自己的有组织犯罪行为正在发生呢。希望这位黑人屋主能找个好律师，好好辨清楚这个道理。
AI Overview In April 2023, Ralph Yarl, a 16-year-old, was shot after mistakenly going to the wrong house to pick up his younger brothers. Andrew Lester, the homeowner, then 86, opened fire, and Yarl was struck in the head and arm. Lester pleaded guilty to second-degree assault and was sentenced to prison, according to CNN,. Lester died in February 2025, weeks before his scheduled sentencing.
我记得有个脑残挑战是屏住呼吸的，结果就有脑残孩子死翘翘了
你这真是想多了，是恶作剧又怎么样呢？弗吉尼亚有关使用枪支的法律是这样的，如果你要开枪，只能是为了阻止死亡或重大人身伤害的威胁。
In Virginia, the laws regarding self-defense and the use of deadly (lethal) force are based primarily on the decisions from court cases and are, therefore, common law. In a self-defense situation, Virginia is a “stand-your-ground” state. Here are some of the ways you can defend yourself legally. It is legal to use force to defend yourself against another person in any location, including in your home, in your yard, at work, at a store, or in church. You may use deadly force if: Someone attacks you and… The attack is not the result of your misconduct and… You reasonably fear that you, or another innocent party, are in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm from the attacker.
If an attack is a result of your own misconduct, you must retreat and let the attacker know that you do not want to fight. If the attacker continues anyway, you may then use force to stop them.
You may use force against a trespasser if the trespasser refuses to leave after being ordered to go. However, the force involved may not endanger human life or cause great bodily harm. It is also illegal to brandish a deadly weapon to defend your personal property.
这就是美国的“恶法”呗，青少年堕落放荡作恶， 警察不作为，出门惹是生非被打死了吧，媒体也没有正确的道德引导。 警察和学校真能管事的话 也不需要普通人被迫出手教训小流氓了。 正常情况下 有几个摄像头一拍，警察应该几天内抓到人， 寻衅滋事私闯民宅罪，虽然不会判什么严重罪行， 但最低也应该是罚作社区服务+学校点名通报批评、记大过、或开除学籍 + 受害人可以起诉作恶的学生家长要求民事赔偿。 如果有这样正常的是非观念+法律实施，还需要普通人打流氓吗！
但屋主怎么知道是恶作剧？
3个大男人半夜三更砸门，看着像要break in，一旦他们进来了，有枪都对付不了，想要保命可不就得立马开抢
怎么太过了
并不是所有的州的法律都是这样，德州就不是。所以在德州，一定要小心不要误入别人家的yard，否则真有可能有人开枪。
另外在美国，警察有抓捕犯人和保护大众的责任，但没有保护个人的义务。这是最高法院的裁决。如果有罪犯闯入某人家里犯罪，警察暂时可以不管，等犯罪完成后再去抓捕罪犯。
那种从国内带来的是非观念，在美国就忘了吧。美国是一个法制社会，只要合法，赚一千万也可以只交750元的税。
是啊，还有最近water war。对别人影响太大了，容易出事故。
别拿”美国是法制社会”这种大笑话来忽悠人了 毕竟现在大家都明白怎么回事。知道这社会烂到根子上了、只是改变无望改不了罢了。有色人种移民还装模作样煞有介事的为主子粉饰太平，主子给打赏么？
是啊，你就别说什么“是非观念”了，多看看法律。
从 憋气到昏厥，
然后是 在笔记本电脑的 USB口里 插铅笔芯，冒烟，
然后这个摁门铃，他都门清，
我问他有没有 做这些事情，
他反问我 ”你觉得我会这么dumb吗？”
他说 真的 去做的 都是 少数的一些 很蠢的 学生
我有一次住有门禁的公寓，半夜有人敲门，不知道走错了层还是来找女朋友，醉醺醺的。虽然是公寓我也害怕，坚决不让老公开门，并立刻报警。
好区警察来得很快，询问了觉得没有恶意，给劝走了。
这个人死了是有点极端，但是必须有人反抗才能减少这种令住户恐慌的恶作剧。
你弄错了吧，那个人被判了25年。
在美国，很多情况下个人不得不用枪支来保护自己，但一定要知道什么时候用枪是合法的，什么时候不能用，否则还不如不买枪。
CNN — A judge strongly admonished a 66-year-old man Friday before sentencing him to 25 years to life in prison for shooting and killing a woman who was a passenger in a car that mistakenly drove up his driveway in rural New York last year.
“I think you really could possibly do the same thing again,” Washington County Judge Adam Michelini told Kevin Monahan before imposing his sentence for second-degree murder. “It’s obvious to me that you feel justified. You don’t take any responsibility for the outcome of your actions. You just don’t get it.”