Q In Stoicism, the concept of a "universal law" or "divine law" refers to the fundamental principles that govern the universe and human life, often referred to as the Logos or Nature. This law dictates that the universe operates according to a rational, ordered system, and that humans, as rational beings, should live in accordance with it. Here''''''''s a more detailed explanation: 1. The Cosmic Law: Stoics believed the universe was governed by a universal, rational principle (Logos or Nature) that dictates all things. This law is seen as both a physical law shaping the cosmos and a moral law guiding human actions. The universe is seen as a unified system, with humans as part of this larger whole. 2. Human Reason and the Universal Law: Stoics emphasized the importance of reason in humans, which allows them to understand and align with the universal law. Living in accordance with nature means living a virtuous life, characterized by wisdom, justice, courage, and temperance. By developing their reason and acting in accordance with the universal law, individuals can achieve inner peace and tranquility (eudaimonia). 3. Key Stoic Concepts Related to Universal Law: Logos/Nature: The term for the universal, rational principle that governs the universe. Cosmopolis: The Stoic idea of a universal city, where all rational beings are citizens and share a common bond through their shared reason. Virtue: The ability to live in accordance with the universal law, which leads to eudaimonia. Natural Law: The Stoic understanding of a universal moral law accessible to all rational beings.
4. Stoic Influence: Stoic thought has significantly influenced the development of natural law, human rights, and international law. Their emphasis on reason and universal principles has had a lasting impact on ethical and political thought. UQ
? Q In Stoicism, the concept of God is interwoven with the idea of a universal law governing the cosmos. The Stoic God is not a transcendent deity, but rather is identified with Nature or the Logos, the rational principle that orders the universe. This "God" is immanent, meaning it is present within and animating the universe, rather than separate from it. The universal law is seen as the expression of this divine principle, shaping the natural order and providing a framework for living virtuously. Here's a more detailed look at the relationship between Stoicism, God, and the universal law: Stoic God as Nature/Logos: Stoics believed in a divine presence within the universe, not as a separate, personal God, but as the rational, active principle that governs nature. This divine principle is sometimes referred to as the Logos, or Nature (Phusis), representing the underlying order and purpose of the cosmos. Universal Law: The universal law, often referred to as the law of nature or the law of the Logos, is the framework that governs all things in the universe. It's the principle that ensures the orderly functioning of nature and is seen as a divine law. Living in Accordance with Nature: Stoics believed that true happiness and well-being came from living in accordance with nature, both the external nature of the universe and one's own internal nature. By understanding and aligning oneself with the universal law, one could achieve a state of inner peace and harmony. The Importance of Reason: Stoics emphasized the role of reason in understanding and applying the universal law. They believed that humans possess a rational faculty that allows them to comprehend the principles of nature and live virtuously. Immanence vs. Transcendence: Unlike some religions that posit a transcendent God separate from the world, Stoics believed that the divine was immanent, present within and animating the universe. This idea of God being part of nature, rather than separate from it, is a key aspect of Stoic theology. Virtue and the Divine: Stoics believed that cultivating virtue (wisdom, justice, courage, and temperance) was essential for aligning oneself with the divine and living in accordance with the universal law. By pursuing virtue, individuals could become more attuned to the natural order and live a fulfilling life. UQ
? Q The concept of the Trinity, as it is understood in Christian theology, is not explicitly stated in the Old Testament. However, some scholars and theologians argue that certain passages in the Old Testament can be interpreted as hinting at or foreshadowing the triune nature of God. These interpretations often focus on passages where God''s word, spirit, or wisdom are mentioned, or where God is portrayed as having a plurality of persons. Here''s a more detailed look at the different perspectives:
Arguments for a Trinity in the Old Testament: Plurality of God: Some passages in the Old Testament, particularly in Genesis, use the first-person plural form ("Let us make...") when referring to God''s creation decisions. This has been interpreted by some as suggesting a plurality within the divine nature. God''s Word, Spirit, and Wisdom: The Old Testament often speaks of God''s word (Psalm 33:6), His spirit (Isaiah 61:1), and wisdom (Proverbs 9:1) as distinct entities or aspects of God. Some scholars see these as references to the distinct persons of the Trinity (Son, Holy Spirit, and Wisdom). Theophany: The appearance of the three men to Abraham in Genesis 18 has been interpreted by some as an appearance of the Trinity. Angel of the Lord: Some have identified the "angel of the Lord" in various Old Testament passages with the pre-incarnate Son of God.
Arguments against a Trinity in the Old Testament: Lack of Explicit Doctrine: The Old Testament clearly emphasizes the oneness of God (Deuteronomy 6:4) and does not explicitly state the doctrine of the Trinity. New Testament Revelation: Most Trinitarian Christians believe that the doctrine of the Trinity was fully revealed in the New Testament. Historical Context: The Old Testament was written in a time before the explicit development of the Trinitarian doctrine. In summary: While some scholars and theologians find hints of the Trinity in the Old Testament, the doctrine itself is not explicitly stated. The New Testament is generally considered the primary source for the doctrine of the Trinity. UQ
承认耶稣是救世主的一般都承认三位一体。
犹太教伊斯兰教不承认耶稣是救世主， 认为耶稣只是个先知。
据我所知，“三位一体Trinity ”一词在圣经中并没有明确提及。
以下是我根据斯多葛哲学的推测。
圣父指的是上帝God——宇宙/自然，涵盖万事万物，其中都拥有上帝的灵Spirit，无论是活着的还是其他什么，都是上帝的一部分。
正如万物，包括人类Son、动物、树木、花朵，都与上帝的灵融为一体Trinity，上帝的灵以生物学和隐含的方式提供/遵循宇宙普遍规律unversal law。
仅代表我个人观点。
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In Stoicism, the concept of a "universal law" or "divine law" refers to the fundamental principles that govern the universe and human life, often referred to as the Logos or Nature. This law dictates that the universe operates according to a rational, ordered system, and that humans, as rational beings, should live in accordance with it.
Here''''''''s a more detailed explanation: 1. The Cosmic Law: Stoics believed the universe was governed by a universal, rational principle (Logos or Nature) that dictates all things. This law is seen as both a physical law shaping the cosmos and a moral law guiding human actions. The universe is seen as a unified system, with humans as part of this larger whole.
2. Human Reason and the Universal Law: Stoics emphasized the importance of reason in humans, which allows them to understand and align with the universal law. Living in accordance with nature means living a virtuous life, characterized by wisdom, justice, courage, and temperance. By developing their reason and acting in accordance with the universal law, individuals can achieve inner peace and tranquility (eudaimonia).
3. Key Stoic Concepts Related to Universal Law:
Logos/Nature: The term for the universal, rational principle that governs the universe.
Cosmopolis: The Stoic idea of a universal city, where all rational beings are citizens and share a common bond through their shared reason.
Virtue: The ability to live in accordance with the universal law, which leads to eudaimonia.
Natural Law: The Stoic understanding of a universal moral law accessible to all rational beings.
4. Stoic Influence: Stoic thought has significantly influenced the development of natural law, human rights, and international law. Their emphasis on reason and universal principles has had a lasting impact on ethical and political thought.
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In Stoicism, the concept of God is interwoven with the idea of a universal law governing the cosmos. The Stoic God is not a transcendent deity, but rather is identified with Nature or the Logos, the rational principle that orders the universe. This "God" is immanent, meaning it is present within and animating the universe, rather than separate from it. The universal law is seen as the expression of this divine principle, shaping the natural order and providing a framework for living virtuously.
Here's a more detailed look at the relationship between Stoicism, God, and the universal law:
Stoic God as Nature/Logos: Stoics believed in a divine presence within the universe, not as a separate, personal God, but as the rational, active principle that governs nature. This divine principle is sometimes referred to as the Logos, or Nature (Phusis), representing the underlying order and purpose of the cosmos.
Universal Law: The universal law, often referred to as the law of nature or the law of the Logos, is the framework that governs all things in the universe. It's the principle that ensures the orderly functioning of nature and is seen as a divine law.
Living in Accordance with Nature: Stoics believed that true happiness and well-being came from living in accordance with nature, both the external nature of the universe and one's own internal nature. By understanding and aligning oneself with the universal law, one could achieve a state of inner peace and harmony.
The Importance of Reason: Stoics emphasized the role of reason in understanding and applying the universal law. They believed that humans possess a rational faculty that allows them to comprehend the principles of nature and live virtuously.
Immanence vs. Transcendence: Unlike some religions that posit a transcendent God separate from the world, Stoics believed that the divine was immanent, present within and animating the universe. This idea of God being part of nature, rather than separate from it, is a key aspect of Stoic theology.
Virtue and the Divine: Stoics believed that cultivating virtue (wisdom, justice, courage, and temperance) was essential for aligning oneself with the divine and living in accordance with the universal law. By pursuing virtue, individuals could become more attuned to the natural order and live a fulfilling life. UQ
犹太教不认为耶稣是先知，所以才把他出卖并杀掉的。“旧约”里说将来的某一天，会有一位救世主出现拯救犹太人；突然有一天，耶稣声称自己就是预言中的那个人。可想而知，大多数犹太人都嗤之以鼻。上层的宗教祭司更是视其为异端，这才有后面出卖耶稣给罗马人的事。 我老板是犹太人，他跟我说，“在我们犹太人眼中，耶稣就是一个 crazy person.” 我觉得就像李洪志在我们大多数国人眼中一样吧。
子父灵三位一体，他们三位彼此不是彼此，但他们都是神，主要是历史原因，耶教的起点犹太教是严格的一神教，所以慢慢的就变成这个四不像了LOL， 简单概括一下历史，耶稣本人只是犹太教的一个小异端，自认是弥赛亚（犹太人预言里的拯救犹太人的救世主），游走江湖传教的时候一直说自己是使者，被耶和华差遣来拯救犹太人，外邦人（非犹太人）不在他的拯救范围里（原话是被孩子吃的不能给狗吃），游走了一圈吸引了一些粉丝，认为时机成熟，去了犹太人的圣殿，掀桌子以上帝的儿子名义教训人，被犹太人认为是亵渎上帝，犯了众怒，要求罗马官员把他抓起来吊死了。他死时他的弟子鸟兽散，但是过了一段时间又聚集在一起，猜想是经济原因（弟子基本是底层百姓，赚钱就是靠耶稣行使“神迹”拿捐款），开始往外邦人里传销，因为传给犹太人那条路是绝对走不通的了。如果不是保罗出现的话，这个新兴宗教大概率会默默无闻，耶教严格来说应该是保罗教，耶稣就是他卖的拐，被神化是必须的，因为这个宗教严格围绕在赎罪这个观念，不是神怎么给人类赎罪。首先提出三位一体概念的是代都量，耶稣死后一百多年的事情了，在耶教历史的前三百年里这个概念还是模糊的，耶稣还大致被认为在耶和华之下，直到罗马皇帝君士坦丁发现可以利用这个宗教的力量，召开了尼西亚会议，耶稣被彻底神化，和耶和华同等，三位一体这个概念基本成型。当时另一个主流阿里乌斯派，认为耶稣低于耶和华，就是在会议里被打成异端的，几十年后的罗马皇帝迪奥西多统治下耶教正式被立为国教，召开了大会确认了圣灵的神性，三位一体正式通行，儿子不是爸爸不是灵，儿子是神，爸爸是神，灵也是神，严格来说是三神教，但因为是扎根在犹太人的一神教上面，承认的神是犹太人的耶和华这个大框架下不得不憋屈模糊一下。传统上任何针对这个完全是人造概念的疑问，都会被回复这是神秘，人不懂，LOL
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Q The concept of the Trinity, as it is understood in Christian theology, is not explicitly stated in the Old Testament. However, some scholars and theologians argue that certain passages in the Old Testament can be interpreted as hinting at or foreshadowing the triune nature of God. These interpretations often focus on passages where God''s word, spirit, or wisdom are mentioned, or where God is portrayed as having a plurality of persons.
Here''s a more detailed look at the different perspectives:
Arguments for a Trinity in the Old Testament:
Plurality of God: Some passages in the Old Testament, particularly in Genesis, use the first-person plural form ("Let us make...") when referring to God''s creation decisions. This has been interpreted by some as suggesting a plurality within the divine nature.
God''s Word, Spirit, and Wisdom: The Old Testament often speaks of God''s word (Psalm 33:6), His spirit (Isaiah 61:1), and wisdom (Proverbs 9:1) as distinct entities or aspects of God. Some scholars see these as references to the distinct persons of the Trinity (Son, Holy Spirit, and Wisdom).
Theophany: The appearance of the three men to Abraham in Genesis 18 has been interpreted by some as an appearance of the Trinity. Angel of the Lord: Some have identified the "angel of the Lord" in various Old Testament passages with the pre-incarnate Son of God.
Arguments against a Trinity in the Old Testament:
Lack of Explicit Doctrine: The Old Testament clearly emphasizes the oneness of God (Deuteronomy 6:4) and does not explicitly state the doctrine of the Trinity. New Testament Revelation: Most Trinitarian Christians believe that the doctrine of the Trinity was fully revealed in the New Testament.
Historical Context: The Old Testament was written in a time before the explicit development of the Trinitarian doctrine.
In summary: While some scholars and theologians find hints of the Trinity in the Old Testament, the doctrine itself is not explicitly stated. The New Testament is generally considered the primary source for the doctrine of the Trinity.
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