President of El Salvador says he won't return mistakenly deported man to U.S. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/president-el-salvador-wont-return-deported-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-rcna201136
President of El Salvador says he won't return mistakenly deported man to U.S. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/president-el-salvador-wont-return-deported-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-rcna201136
REPORTER: You mentioned you're open to deporting individuals that aren't foreign aliens but aren't criminal to El Salvador. Does that include US citizens?
TRUMP: If they are criminals and if they hit people with baseball bats over the head, if they rape 87 year old women, yeah.… pic.twitter.com/JVvdWJjF37 — Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 14, 2025
President of El Salvador says he won't return mistakenly deported man to U.S. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/president-el-salvador-wont-return-deported-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-rcna201136
I am amazed by the bleeping tone deaf shown by those Trumpsters. It is a constitutional crisis that the administration branch defies the supreme court.
I am amazed by the bleeping tone deaf shown by those Trumpsters. It is a constitutional crisis that the administration branch defies the supreme court. percipient64 发表于 2025-04-14 19:37
Then what Trump can do if El Salvador don''t send the guy to US? Can you name any legal way? this exactly showed how ridiculous is the judge''s ruling.
cs5560 发表于 2025-04-14 19:42 Then what Trump can do if El Salvador don''t send the guy to US? Can you name any legal way? this exactly showed how ridiculous is the judge''s ruling.
So you sent a person protected by his legal status illegally but you need to ask for a legal way? The hypocrisy is way off chart.
cs5560 发表于 2025-04-14 19:42 Then what Trump can do if El Salvador don''t send the guy to US? Can you name any legal way? this exactly showed how ridiculous is the judge''s ruling.
回复 1楼 cs5560 的帖子 和萨尔瓦多总统聊天曝光: 你再多建5个? homegrown are next
@nowthisimpact In a chilling Oval Office exchange, Trump told El Salvador’s President Bukele, ‘The homegrowns are next,’ openly threatening to send American citizens to El Salvador’s notorious mega-prisons. This rhetoric signals a terrifying erosion of constitutional protections and due process. If the government can strip citizens of their rights and exile them abroad, no one is safe. ♬ original sound - NowThis Impact - NowThis Impact
@cnn President Trump said he'd like to send American criminals to El Salvador's notorious CECOT prison when he met with Nayib Bukele in the Oval Office. Former US Attorney Harry Litman says that would violate the Constitution. cnn news elsalvador ♬ original sound - CNN
我的理解是每个人都应该有due process 和 basic right 不管是公民还是外国人。 但是美国公民有很多在美国的外国人没有的privilege. 外国人在美国也可以享受一些basic right之外的privilege。合法呆在美国就是一种privilege,所以你可以看到外国人会被取消移民身份直接驱逐出境, state department 就可以这么干。对付非法移民就手段就更多了。
XDKS2023 发表于 2025-04-14 21:53 我的理解是每个人都应该有due process 和 basic right 不管是公民还是外国人。 但是美国公民有很多在美国的外国人没有的privilege. 外国人在美国也可以享受一些basic right之外的privilege。合法呆在美国就是一种privilege,所以你可以看到外国人会被取消移民身份直接驱逐出境, state department 就可以这么干。对付非法移民就手段就更多了。
都是懂爷 Supreme Court gives boost to Trump administration's deportation plans under Alien Enemies Act The ruling said a judge can't block Trump’s plan nationwide but made it clear that people swept up must have a chance to challenge their seizures before they can be deported.
REPORTER: You mentioned you're open to deporting individuals that aren't foreign aliens but aren't criminal to El Salvador. Does that include US citizens?
TRUMP: If they are criminals and if they hit people with baseball bats over the head, if they rape 87 year old women, yeah.… pic.twitter.com/JVvdWJjF37 — Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 14, 2025
这个。。。 Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador who was illegally deported from the United States on March 15, 2025, in what the Trump administration called "an administrative error."
被deport的时候状态是合法的 Abrego Garcia illegally immigrated to the U.S. in 2011 at the age of 16. He had lived and worked in the country legally since 2019, when an immigration judge granted him "withholding of removal" status, a rare alternative to asylum, over the threat to his life from gang violence in El Salvador if deported.
“那些叫嚣due process的,对象是有公民权的人,非法移民在美国没有公民权,更何况还是跟黑帮关联的罪犯”。 https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S1-3/ALDE_00013743/ “The Fourteenth Amendment prohibits states from depriving any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. The Supreme Court has held that this protection extends to all natural persons (i.e., human beings), regardless of race, color, or citizenship.” 原来对于宪法的诠释你比高院还要权威。
President of El Salvador says he won't return mistakenly deported man to U.S. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/president-el-salvador-wont-return-deported-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-rcna201136
突出了美国的人道和萨尔瓦多的不人道啊,虽然人道的美国犯了个小错误...
驱逐的非法移民为啥要回来?
那么萨尔瓦多政府肯定不可能把自己国家的合法公民,强行送往美国啊
根据我看的相关新闻的粗浅理解,那个人倒并不是无辜的路人甲,确实是黑帮成员,只不过deport程序上有什么漏洞所以法官要求米国政府帮助把他捞回来。现在萨尔瓦多那个巨巨的小跟班当然要配合巨巨演戏
最高院那个家伙的亲戚。华人这么热情,难道也是远方亲戚,等不及接到自己家里来了。
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是“ 有informatant 说他是黑帮成员 -- 这个完全没有证实,而且这种一面之词完全可能是诬陷” 一般来说黑帮扎堆, 如果他在马里兰也有活动,那么很好证实。 如果他在马里兰这么多年没有参加黑帮非法活动,那么仅凭一个线人的报告就欠缺公正了。
现在最主要的问题是, 你deport到萨尔瓦多也就罢了,为啥关在监狱里? 他 这么多年在马里兰, 咋违反萨尔瓦多的法律了? 原因只有一个, Trump 跟萨尔瓦多达成的协议是按人头给钱, 所以这个人头必须关着
解啥围?一条人命对床铺都不是个事儿。萨尔瓦多总统那个谄媚的样儿看了让人侧目。
他们俩互夸对方。
美国人道个屁!人道就不会不经审判随便把人送到那个恐怖监狱去了
明白法律上的无罪推定吗?在经过严格法律审判确定是黑帮之前,他不是
你这种人就欠人家说你是黑帮送到萨尔瓦多监狱去,反正不经审判你也认
因为他也许是无辜的。
因为你也可能落到那里,我也可能落到那里
什么叫玩了个寂寞?三权中executive branch 公然违反最高法院的裁决能让您这么皮里阳秋地嘲讽,有意思吗?
瞎扯,这是故意为了设坑,还要把他弄死弄残,然后让大家知道 这可以比当年北京的暂住证 孙志刚还恐怖
人家不给美国怎么办?你的意思是美国总统经美国法官要求可以绑架别国公民到美国?还是美国法官准备长臂管辖其它国家?
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就算黑帮,也不是一定犯罪。就算犯罪也得上庭,法官判决以后再执行判决。不能随便没定罪就给处理了。还是不是法治社会。
总统亲自去街上抓人?你喝高了吧。
你看了报道了吗?Stephen Miller说了,当川普的总统令宣布MS31是恐怖组织的时候,以前法官的命令就已经无效了。 好像你吃了超速的罚单,要求延迟上庭,但警察又发现你是杀人犯,当然可以马上把你抓起来。你不能说因为你要上庭,所以警察不能抓你。
Then what Trump can do if El Salvador don''t send the guy to US? Can you name any legal way?
this exactly showed how ridiculous is the judge''s ruling.
所以高院也是知道的, 有自知之明。 只是说faciliate return, 可没说一定要把他给搞回到美国来。
马里兰的参议员Van Hollen 要求见这个总统,说本周中Garcia 不被释放,他去 El Salvatore 看他
闹大了,希望更多人起来阻止这种野蛮行为
是的,所以我说他帮忙解围了。这样不需要总统和法官争执不下了。
So you sent a person protected by his legal status illegally but you need to ask for a legal way? The hypocrisy is way off chart.
川普能把人送过去,那是花钱买服务,这就是甲方乙方的关系。你告诉我川普这么无能,花了钱了都不能说话算话?
议员自费去,不要浪费纳税人的钱! 那些叫嚣due process的,对象是有公民权的人,非法移民在美国没有公民权,更何况还是跟黑帮关联的罪犯
和萨尔瓦多总统聊天曝光: 你再多建5个? homegrown are next
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你这个整个一法盲。 高院早就有判决, due process 不是仅仅适用于公民。 多读读书
如果美国境内非公民失去了due process 那么其实所有人都是去了due peocess 因为假如你被抓的时候,恰恰需要due proceds 证明你是公民 证明你是无罪。 这么简单的道理你都不懂。
你大概根本不懂为什么高院一次次在这个问题上反复判决 把due process 扩展到所有US person 的原因。 有时候和川粉辩论特别容易因厌蠢症自我激怒,我要学会控制自己
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最新消息是啥,确认了吗? 是不是已经死了? 这不是集中营,这是 death camp
从大街上抓人、快速运走到国外,一旦进去再没出来的机会,连司法制度都彻底失效。
这已经有法西斯手段的雏形了。 一旦走上去,很难回头了
source?
Which president is lying
Due process 是你唯一的机会证明执法系统弄错了
你交几毛税钱了? 明天4/15了,把1040 第二页给人看看?
他什么时候是illegal immigrant了? 他是有绿卡的
美国宪法protect “person”, 你是说他不是人?
但是感觉可以直接剥夺外国人的一些privilege。比如海关可以直接禁止入境哪怕你有有效合法的签证。
但是感觉可以。。。您老赶紧歇着吧。。。
海关可以拒绝外国人入境,但你不能把人随便扔进死亡集中营
呵呵所以美国监狱不用留人了,公民犯法都可以deport, 管你一代移民也好8代移民也好
什么无辜?妥妥的黑帮份子,手上有血债的。他有不受遣返的保护令是因为法官相信他的声称遣返会有生命危险,而其他国家不愿接纳黑帮份子。
Librals宁可相信他无辜,真正无辜被他杀害的美国公民在他们眼里没有非法移民罪犯重要!
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是西裔美国公民,合法度和你一样
问题是,他在美国是非法,现在是在他自己的国家。他国的总统也无法把他送到美国。他现在要么拿到美国签证,要么美国批准他的绿卡。
把他从监狱放出,是一个办法。
非法移民也要走程序送出境。不能扔到一个黑监狱生死不知。这已经有法西斯雏形了。
这个。。。
Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador who was illegally deported from the United States on March 15, 2025, in what the Trump administration called "an administrative error."
被deport的时候状态是合法的
Abrego Garcia illegally immigrated to the U.S. in 2011 at the age of 16. He had lived and worked in the country legally since 2019, when an immigration judge granted him "withholding of removal" status, a rare alternative to asylum, over the threat to his life from gang violence in El Salvador if deported.
稍微google一下就能知道他在米国是合法还是非法了
不是非法移民,是有protected status的,说穿了,是政府承认的真正的难民
再去看看真正的新闻,不要被fake news糊住眼睛,或者散播谣言!把一个非法移民、有犯罪记录的帮派成员洗白成公民!
好歹搜一下,你也是在胡说八道
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Kilmar_Abrego_Garcia
有兴趣的话建议看完,不要听床粉造谣
用谣言把人弄糊涂,就是川粉的目的
看起来华川粉比白maga还凶残。
“那些叫嚣due process的,对象是有公民权的人,非法移民在美国没有公民权,更何况还是跟黑帮关联的罪犯”。
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S1-3/ALDE_00013743/
“The Fourteenth Amendment prohibits states from depriving any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. The Supreme Court has held that this protection extends to all natural persons (i.e., human beings), regardless of race, color, or citizenship.” 原来对于宪法的诠释你比高院还要权威。
感觉就跟当年西伯利亚流放政治犯没啥区别,只要看不顺眼就先流放了
你们家到底多少黑帮成员啊,至于吓成这样? 别人又不是黑帮,当然犯不上担惊受怕
而且大芝加哥人的感受是不能更支持: 在过去四年,由于拜登政府纵容犯罪,“血腥周末”似乎已经成为芝加哥等大城市的惯例,一年有超过30个周末成为“血腥周末”,这一切在川普上任后戛然而止,随着越来越多非法移民帮派成员被驱逐出境,美国的治安开始得到改善。
等到你被当作黑帮被递解到萨尔瓦多的时候,你连说这个话的机会都没有了。
你以为你不是黑帮,人家就不会抹黑你是黑帮?反正他怎么说都有你这种傻子信,说你也就是时间问题
别跟川粉废话了。这人从头到尾就没被证明是黑帮。川皇一干人一口咬定是黑帮的,到现在没有拿出证据。平白无故绑架人的才是黑帮。