发现不考SAT，ACT就入学的新生普遍缺乏代数，几何，定量分析的中学数学基本技能，哈佛不得不给这些学生补课一年。 Harvard might be America’s most elite university — but now it’s offering remedial math classes. The school’s math department is providing a new scaled-back math class for freshmen who are apparently arriving on campus lacking “foundational skills” in high school math basics like geometry and algebra. Harvard is quick to blame these math gaps on pandemic learning losses — but, in truth, administrators brought this mess on themselves by scrapping standardized testing requirements during the pandemic, all in the name of equity. Without any SAT or ACT scores on their applications, no wonder kids without basic math skills were able to slip through the cracks. The school should have seen this coming. “Students don’t have the skills that we had intended downstream in the curriculum,” Kelly added. “We want to make sure that students are on a path to success starting from their first day.” The new course, called Math MA, is one year long and meets five days a week, compared with the regular two days. According to the department’s website, “extra support will target foundational skills in algebra, geometry, and quantitative reasoning that will help [students] unlock success.” Had these students studied for the SATs — which, according to the College Board website, tests them on four “areas of math that play the biggest role in college and career success: algebra, advanced math, problem solving . . . and geometry” — they wouldn’t need Math MA. Instead, many of them probably bombed on the math SAT or skipped the whole thing altogether, taking advantage of the fact that Harvard scrapped the standardized testing requirement during the pandemic. Perhaps that was reasonable in 2020, when the nation was still effectively in lockdown and in-person testing was logistically challenging, but there’s no excuse for the class of 2030 still reaping the benefit of test-optional admissions. https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/opinion/harvard-univ-the-ivy-league-teaching-remedial-math/ https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/9/3/new-math-intro-course/
哈佛大学屈服于那些坚持认为标准化考试是种族主义遗留的人的压力，并认为彻底废除这一程序将促进平等。 正如 2020 年反种族主义偶像 Ibram X. Kendi 所说：“我们仍然认为孩子们有问题，而不是认识到考试有问题。标准化考试已经成为有史以来最有效的种族主义武器，客观上贬低了黑人和棕色人种的思想，并合法地将他们排除在名校之外。” Harvard was capitulating to the pressure of those who insisted standardized testing is a vestige of racism and argued that scrapping the process altogether would advance equity. As 2020 antiracist icon Ibram X. Kendi put it: “We still think there’s something wrong with the kids rather than recognizing there’s something wrong with the tests. Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade black and brown minds and legally exclude their bodies from prestigious schools.”
SAT其实就是我们中学时候说的“双基”： 基础知识，基本技能。SAT成绩高未必说明学习能力强，但是低分基本可以预见学习能力差。取消SAT的后果就是很多学习能力很差的漏进来了。Boston Globe曾经有一篇长期追踪报道，大波士顿区公立学校高中毕业第一名（Valedictorian)毕业后的表现，有很多三流大学都因为课业问题无法毕业。All Valedictorians are not created equal, standard tests at least tells you how much the title is worth.
SAT 发表于 2025-04-05 16:33 SAT其实就是我们中学时候说的“双基”： 基础知识，基本技能。SAT成绩高未必说明学习能力强，但是低分基本可以预见学习能力差。取消SAT的后果就是很多学习能力很差的漏进来了。Boston Globe曾经有一篇长期追踪报道，大波士顿区公立学校高中毕业第一名（Valedictorian)毕业后的表现，有很多三流大学都因为课业问题无法毕业。All Valedictorians are not created equal, standard tests at least tells you how much the title is worth.
SAT其实就是我们中学时候说的“双基”： 基础知识，基本技能。SAT成绩高未必说明学习能力强，但是低分基本可以预见学习能力差。取消SAT的后果就是很多学习能力很差的漏进来了。Boston Globe曾经有一篇长期追踪报道，大波士顿区公立学校高中毕业第一名（Valedictorian)毕业后的表现，有很多三流大学都因为课业问题无法毕业。All Valedictorians are not created equal, standard tests at least tells you how much the title is worth. SAT 发表于 2025-04-05 16:33
就是这个理。 没有 SAT 水平的数学底子，各种高等数学课程根本学不了，那就得补数学基础课。 除了那些学文科的不需要学各种学高等数学课。那这些文科毕业生将来也就不能做理工科的工作。
wueda 发表于 2025-04-05 16:03 哈佛大学屈服于那些坚持认为标准化考试是种族主义遗留的人的压力，并认为彻底废除这一程序将促进平等。 正如 2020 年反种族主义偶像 Ibram X. Kendi 所说：“我们仍然认为孩子们有问题，而不是认识到考试有问题。标准化考试已经成为有史以来最有效的种族主义武器，客观上贬低了黑人和棕色人种的思想，并合法地将他们排除在名校之外。” Harvard was capitulating to the pressure of those who insisted standardized testing is a vestige of racism and argued that scrapping the process altogether would advance equity. As 2020 antiracist icon Ibram X. Kendi put it: “We still think there’s something wrong with the kids rather than recognizing there’s something wrong with the tests. Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade black and brown minds and legally exclude their bodies from prestigious schools.”
While both equality and equity aim for fairness, equality means treating everyone the same, while equity recognizes that people have different needs and circumstances, requiring tailored solutions for a truly fair outcome. Here's a more detailed breakdown: Equality: Definition: Equality means providing the same resources and opportunities to everyone, regardless of their background or circumstances. Example: Giving everyone the same type of shoes, even if some people need different sizes or types of footwear to be comfortable and successful. Focus: Equal treatment and access. Equity: Definition: Equity recognizes that people start from different places and need different resources and opportunities to achieve the same outcomes. Example: Providing different-sized boxes for people of different heights to see over a fence, ensuring everyone can see, rather than giving everyone the same box. Focus: Fairness and justice by addressing systemic inequalities and providing tailored support.
标题从这句话来的： administrators brought this mess on themselves by scrapping standardized testing requirements during the pandemic, all in the name of equity.
Harvard might be America’s most elite university — but now it’s offering remedial math classes. The school’s math department is providing a new scaled-back math class for freshmen who are apparently arriving on campus lacking “foundational skills” in high school math basics like geometry and algebra. Harvard is quick to blame these math gaps on pandemic learning losses — but, in truth, administrators brought this mess on themselves by scrapping standardized testing requirements during the pandemic, all in the name of equity.
Without any SAT or ACT scores on their applications, no wonder kids without basic math skills were able to slip through the cracks. The school should have seen this coming. “Students don’t have the skills that we had intended downstream in the curriculum,” Kelly added. “We want to make sure that students are on a path to success starting from their first day.” The new course, called Math MA, is one year long and meets five days a week, compared with the regular two days. According to the department’s website, “extra support will target foundational skills in algebra, geometry, and quantitative reasoning that will help [students] unlock success.”
Had these students studied for the SATs — which, according to the College Board website, tests them on four “areas of math that play the biggest role in college and career success: algebra, advanced math, problem solving . . . and geometry” — they wouldn’t need Math MA.
Instead, many of them probably bombed on the math SAT or skipped the whole thing altogether, taking advantage of the fact that Harvard scrapped the standardized testing requirement during the pandemic. Perhaps that was reasonable in 2020, when the nation was still effectively in lockdown and in-person testing was logistically challenging, but there’s no excuse for the class of 2030 still reaping the benefit of test-optional admissions.
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/opinion/harvard-univ-the-ivy-league-teaching-remedial-math/
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/9/3/new-math-intro-course/
正如 2020 年反种族主义偶像 Ibram X. Kendi 所说：“我们仍然认为孩子们有问题，而不是认识到考试有问题。标准化考试已经成为有史以来最有效的种族主义武器，客观上贬低了黑人和棕色人种的思想，并合法地将他们排除在名校之外。”
Harvard was capitulating to the pressure of those who insisted standardized testing is a vestige of racism and argued that scrapping the process altogether would advance equity. As 2020 antiracist icon Ibram X. Kendi put it: “We still think there’s something wrong with the kids rather than recognizing there’s something wrong with the tests. Standardized tests have become the most effective racist weapon ever devised to objectively degrade black and brown minds and legally exclude their bodies from prestigious schools.”
逻辑是：因为不要求SAT，数学不行的学生混入了大学。
这么简单的道理，你居然看不懂？还说什么神逻辑。
SAT其实就是我们中学时候说的“双基”： 基础知识，基本技能。SAT成绩高未必说明学习能力强，但是低分基本可以预见学习能力差。取消SAT的后果就是很多学习能力很差的漏进来了。Boston Globe曾经有一篇长期追踪报道，大波士顿区公立学校高中毕业第一名（Valedictorian)毕业后的表现，有很多三流大学都因为课业问题无法毕业。All Valedictorians are not created equal, standard tests at least tells you how much the title is worth.
哈哈啊，发现你的ID名字是“SAT”
就是这个理。 没有 SAT 水平的数学底子，各种高等数学课程根本学不了，那就得补数学基础课。 除了那些学文科的不需要学各种学高等数学课。那这些文科毕业生将来也就不能做理工科的工作。
深刻怀疑这几年校领导的孩子要上哈佛，校领导取消SAT，就是为了给自己孩子和关系户开道。 真以为校领导是傻子，都是利益驱动的。
学什么都需要花时间精力，不读书，爱好学踢球游泳音乐绘画各种，也一样需要一周4-5天的训练。不刷题就不要考大学呗。 为了给某些特定人群开藤校后门，编造这么多理由虚造声势
好吧，继续维护这样的伪命题，改规则，不SAT不ACT。那些普通学校也是如出一辙。毕业后在各行业，都是同一批人，扰乱秩序的“快乐教育”的延续-达不到标准就改标准，完不成任务就改任务，总是为自己的需要改规则。这些年各行业已经显现后果。 只能等这批人下线，才有新的希望。可惜，低估了这批人的杀伤力，，，补课是小事
那个煞笔玩意儿。。当年被各个大公司请去给讲座，应该捞了不少钱，如同恶霸收保护费一样
好多文科都得学统计， 文科转行数据分析、DS的不少
大段引用而不给出处，说你什么好呢？ 我猜你的标题自己写的？Equity vs Equality？
引用来了，你自己看：
https://nypost.com/2025/04/05/opinion/harvard-univ-the-ivy-league-teaching-remedial-math/
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/9/3/new-math-intro-course/
While both equality and equity aim for fairness, equality means treating everyone the same, while equity recognizes that people have different needs and circumstances, requiring tailored solutions for a truly fair outcome.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Equality: Definition: Equality means providing the same resources and opportunities to everyone, regardless of their background or circumstances. Example: Giving everyone the same type of shoes, even if some people need different sizes or types of footwear to be comfortable and successful. Focus: Equal treatment and access. Equity: Definition: Equity recognizes that people start from different places and need different resources and opportunities to achieve the same outcomes. Example: Providing different-sized boxes for people of different heights to see over a fence, ensuring everyone can see, rather than giving everyone the same box. Focus: Fairness and justice by addressing systemic inequalities and providing tailored support.
标题从这句话来的：
administrators brought this mess on themselves by scrapping standardized testing requirements during the pandemic, all in the name of equity.
说SAT是种族主义。。。其实是哈佛等大学说反话，取消SAT为了方便搞种族主义😂
你不让他们通过，你就是racist！
看了后面的解释明白了。。。
It’s called ‘the soft bigotry of low expectations’.
估计也是不考sat 的
‘the soft bigotry of low expectations’. 就是预料到黑人和棕色人种能力不行，对吧？这才是真正的种族歧视
这么说才是毫无逻辑，出来现眼了
录取看legacy，看八股文，看一个十几岁高中生的“领导力”，看体育好不好，看吹嘘的课外活动…早就对藤校幻灭了，不懂有什么好追捧的
更大可能是给big donor 的孩子 and legacy吧
Equality 吧？跟股权啥关系？
equality vs equity, 看17楼这两个词的定义对比。看18楼的文中例句。
很多人追捧的就是那个名气。不过，这样的招生原则与理念，我们不会让娃削足适履。不值得。
没有任何一个学校，一个工作岗位值得削足适履。
在火星待了多少年哪? 这个equity已经喊了好多年了
SAT math (not SAT II math) is easy. Lots of chinese elementary school kids can do it.
到时候上真家伙的时候，管你什么肤色，算不出来就是算不出来啊。世界法则才不会因为你的肤色，你的种族，让你更有机会获得真理~~或者做出一个产品~~~
有这空，还不如想想怎么全面在小学阶段就帮助这些肤色的人打好基础
哈佛永远是哈佛 悲愤也没用 收SAT，它是哈佛 不收SAT，它还是哈佛
给低收入学生的financial aid是从捐赠基金出的，哈佛有500亿美金的endowment，和你交的税没关系