NASA and JPL co-founded by Chinese Nationals/First Boeing plan designed by Chinese engineer ---- Are these even true? cathybefore 发表于 2025-03-02 18:08
JPL应该是的，我看这个访谈里看到了这么一段（pdf的第41页） 古根海姆基金会决定在普林斯顿和加州理工分别建立喷气推进研究中心，钱学森被从MIT聘任回去当加州理工的喷气推进中心的第一任主任。加州理工的这个中心就是后来的JPL的前身。 https://oralhistories.library.caltech.edu/138/1/Marble_OHO.pdf Well, it turned out that—unbeknownst to me and anybody else at Caltech except Lindvall—the Guggenheim Foundation had decided to finance a couple of Jet PropulsionCenters—one at Princeton and one at Caltech. This was supposed to be a group to develop courses in the propulsion sciences, particularly, since they involved chemistry, gas dynamics and materials. Guggenheim and his group were convinced that a new curriculum of courses was required to address in a unified way all these fields. He was right, and I have reason to believe it was Kármán who convinced him of this. And he had chosen Luigi Crocco, a notable Italian gas dynamicist, to accept the Goddard Chair at Princeton; and he had convinced Tsien to come backto Caltech and accept the Goddard Chair here. So the reason I hadn’t heard from MIT was that Tsien wasn’t going to be there; he was coming here. And he had, in turn, written to Lindvall and said, “By all means, keep Frank Marble there, because I want him to be the first new faculty member at the JP Center.” So Fred Lindvall was a bit over a barrel, and he had to tell me what was happening. So, somewhat sadly in a way, I wrote back to Bill and told him I wasn’t coming—that I was very grateful, but I wasn’t coming— because, as you know, Bill’s personal warmth is something that’s hard to overlook. It was a little less troublesome for me to turn down Johns Hopkins. So that was when Caltech offered me the assistant professorship of jet propulsion and mechanical engineering. So I started off with Tsien here. I wrote to him, we corresponded about the program, and I started teaching the jet propulsion courses, which I developed extensively over the next five or six years.
The claims you mentioned contain a mix of truth and misinformation. Let’s break them down one by one: 1. Was NASA co-founded by Chinese nationals?No, this is false. NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) was founded in 1958 as a successor to the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA). It was established by the U.S. government in response to the Soviet Union's launch of Sputnik. However, JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory), which is managed by NASA today, has historical ties to Qian Xuesen (Tsien Hsue-shen), a Chinese-born scientist. Qian Xuesen was a key figure in American rocketry in the 1940s. He was a co-founder of the Aerojet Corporation, which supplied rockets to JPL. However, in the 1950s, during the Red Scare, he was accused of having Communist sympathies, detained, and eventually deported to China, where he became the "Father of China's Space Program." Bottom line: While a Chinese-born scientist contributed to JPL, he did not co-found NASA. 2. Was the first Boeing plane designed by a Chinese engineer? This claim is partially true but often misunderstood. Wong Tsu, a Chinese-born aeronautical engineer, was hired by Boeing in 1916 as one of its first engineers. He played a crucial role in designing Boeing’s first commercially successful aircraft, the Model C, a seaplane used by the U.S. Navy during World War I. While he did not design Boeing’s first-ever plane (that was the Model 1, designed by William Boeing and Conrad Westervelt), his contributions to Boeing's early aircraft development were significant. Bottom line: Wong Tsu played a major role in Boeing's early success, but the claim that the "first Boeing plane was designed by a Chinese engineer" is an oversimplification. Conclusion: NASA was not co-founded by Chinese nationals, though Qian Xuesen contributed to early American rocketry before being deported to China. A Chinese engineer, Wong Tsu, contributed significantly to Boeing's early aircraft designs, but he was not the sole designer of Boeing’s first plane. Would you like more details or sources for verification?
反正联邦或者州核心实验室的，受联邦和州府资助的top大学的老中科学家们，做好思想准备吧，很可能随时让你卷铺盖卷走人了。
这招太损了，为了避免潜在的麻烦，各大学研究所会尽量少或者干脆就不招华裔faculty
棉花反正把风声放出来了，美国实验室里，中国来的科学家太多了，存在严重的国家安全隐患。
各大学各科研机构看着办吧！
去哪里告？大boss打响歧视第一枪。DEI没了，Diversity被举报
does it matter now?
谁给你区分啊？
DEI 取消了， 涉种族的职场歧视，联邦、劳工部等等，都不再参与调查，不再参与处罚雇主了。
你老中可以自己请律师和大公司大学的强大律师团去单打独斗打官司吧，也可能有胜算的哦！但要有思想准备，三年官司诉讼，律师费最低百万刀。
棉花疯狂反华是因为新疆棉吗？
Chinese exclusion act 2025 starting from doe labs
我们早就这样了，还用现在。让他们自己掉沟里去吧！
肯定了。有些国家实验室，绿卡连参观都不行，必须得是公民。我不认识一个在这些单位工作的人不是公民的。 这些垃圾！
他们连中日韩都不太能分清楚，LOL。
自己查一下或者ChatGPT 聊聊就知道上面这些都是具体指的谁
还不如没有祖国的犹太人呢，梅花是放弃祖国的，人家犹太人是好几代在德国生活了
湾湾可以把护照用订书机订在脑门上去面试
放弃祖国的自恨美华才不担心呢，牺牲小我完成蟆嘠大业
藤校文科毕业的红脖在中国的话属于半文盲。数学相当于中国小学水平，物理化学这些相当于完全不会。除了妖言惑众三寸不烂之舌一无是处。这些红脖跟古代太监没什么两样，就是靠舔和所谓领导船上位的。美国让这些垃圾东西治国不完蛋都没天理了。
你要是问好了就share一下呗，反正我问了deepseek 没什么发现
有啥奇怪的，种族主义和精髓，不就是非我族类，其心必异吗。而且，CIVIL WAR电影不是已经演绎了吗？
https://youtu.be/lgKGIhfKrpY?si=R-fgI-5Wz6i59Spa
当然，钱学森啊
他这么算的话 美国奥数队的奖牌应该给中国啊
特么的中国这个国运来了根本挡不住，这就跟资本积累一样，钱不是赚来的，是大风刮来的
大实话，没啥难听的 美国几十年STEM靠外来移民，各行各业充斥着这种上下两张嘴皮子的，辩论起来靠语速，音量压迫对方的货色
JPL 创始五人组之一：钱学森 波音第一位总工程师：王助
波音有些engineer职位是可以持绿卡的中国籍去干的，洛马不行
这个傻X又蹦出来了，上次一直问TIKTOK 周是不是中国人的也是他。
让棉花把所有未来美国的科学家都赶走吧，让他来代表美国去数学竞赛。
一帮无能无耻的家伙
我们单位去年招的新人（招了6个人，因为疫情后，退休了几个人，去了其他地方几个人），超过一半是印度人，没有一个华裔。
湾湾抹黑中国人就是愚蠢，他们也不看看他们自己的脸长什么样子！
如果不说话，我有时候都分辨不出日本人和韩国人！
他最像中国间谍。
数学还不一定比得上中国的小学生呢！美国的大学生很多背不出九九乘法表！中国你找不出一个小学毕业生，背不出乘法表。
不是他们傻，而是他们这么说在那些州有市场
哈佛毕业的，怎么会傻；一切都是为了选票而已。
你要有点智慧就该知道自己需要想办法找退路了
当然是真的，见识太少了，自己放狗搜不就知道了，西雅图波音博物馆有层列第一位飞机制造的工程师照片，华裔, mit本科毕业。只能说中国人的平均智商估计真的是全球第一
美国把做ai的中国scientist 全部遣返，靠烙印一张嘴，看看美国ai哪里还能抗衡中国ai
JPL应该是的，我看这个访谈里看到了这么一段（pdf的第41页）
古根海姆基金会决定在普林斯顿和加州理工分别建立喷气推进研究中心，钱学森被从MIT聘任回去当加州理工的喷气推进中心的第一任主任。加州理工的这个中心就是后来的JPL的前身。
https://oralhistories.library.caltech.edu/138/1/Marble_OHO.pdf
Well, it turned out that—unbeknownst to me and anybody else at Caltech except Lindvall—the Guggenheim Foundation had decided to finance a couple of Jet Propulsion Centers—one at Princeton and one at Caltech. This was supposed to be a group to develop courses in the propulsion sciences, particularly, since they involved chemistry, gas dynamics and materials. Guggenheim and his group were convinced that a new curriculum of courses was required to address in a unified way all these fields. He was right, and I have reason to believe it was Kármán who convinced him of this. And he had chosen Luigi Crocco, a notable Italian gas dynamicist, to accept the Goddard Chair at Princeton; and he had convinced Tsien to come back to Caltech and accept the Goddard Chair here. So the reason I hadn’t heard from MIT was that Tsien wasn’t going to be there; he was coming here. And he had, in turn, written to Lindvall and said, “By all means, keep Frank Marble there, because I want him to be the first new faculty member at the JP Center.” So Fred Lindvall was a bit over a barrel, and he had to tell me what was happening. So, somewhat sadly in a way, I wrote back to Bill and told him I wasn’t coming—that I was very grateful, but I wasn’t coming— because, as you know, Bill’s personal warmth is something that’s hard to overlook. It was a little less troublesome for me to turn down Johns Hopkins. So that was when Caltech offered me the assistant professorship of jet propulsion and mechanical engineering. So I started off with Tsien here. I wrote to him, we corresponded about the program, and I started teaching the jet propulsion courses, which I developed extensively over the next five or six years.
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update: 加州理工的网站上是这么写的 https://library.caltech.edu/c.php?g=1245983&p=9125566
人家自个儿没觉得丢脸啊。。。
何况政客玩儿的就是民意，不是要宣传真理。
比如，如果老百姓觉得鹿就是马，政客得有多脑残，才非要出来谴责老百姓指鹿为马啊。。。当然是跟着老百姓一起这么说了，最好再推波助澜一把，把那鹿说成是好马，夸老百姓都是伯乐。然后为了避免老百姓觉得丢脸（当然实质目的是免得老百姓丢脸之后怪到自个儿），也要把那些真的马说成是老鼠，统统打死。。。
他是哈佛毕业的，同学中就有华人，当然比他混的差多了，旁边的MIT更多，他清楚的很，只不过是政治需要，更是一个软柿子，随便捏也没有后果。
所以你是支持棉花议员的，是吗？
同学中有华人跟他歧视华人有冲突吗？可能当时他就觉得华人占了白人的位置呢？
你理解能力有问题
您是理解力有问题么？您考过GRE没有？
原帖后面加了一段帖主自己的评论，引出来个老印大骂说是中国的宣传工具。笑死我了
The claims you mentioned contain a mix of truth and misinformation. Let’s break them down one by one: 1. Was NASA co-founded by Chinese nationals? No, this is false. NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration) was founded in 1958 as a successor to the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA). It was established by the U.S. government in response to the Soviet Union's launch of Sputnik. However, JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory), which is managed by NASA today, has historical ties to Qian Xuesen (Tsien Hsue-shen), a Chinese-born scientist. Qian Xuesen was a key figure in American rocketry in the 1940s. He was a co-founder of the Aerojet Corporation, which supplied rockets to JPL. However, in the 1950s, during the Red Scare, he was accused of having Communist sympathies, detained, and eventually deported to China, where he became the "Father of China's Space Program." Bottom line: While a Chinese-born scientist contributed to JPL, he did not co-found NASA. 2. Was the first Boeing plane designed by a Chinese engineer? This claim is partially true but often misunderstood. Wong Tsu, a Chinese-born aeronautical engineer, was hired by Boeing in 1916 as one of its first engineers. He played a crucial role in designing Boeing’s first commercially successful aircraft, the Model C, a seaplane used by the U.S. Navy during World War I. While he did not design Boeing’s first-ever plane (that was the Model 1, designed by William Boeing and Conrad Westervelt), his contributions to Boeing's early aircraft development were significant. Bottom line: Wong Tsu played a major role in Boeing's early success, but the claim that the "first Boeing plane was designed by a Chinese engineer" is an oversimplification. Conclusion: NASA was not co-founded by Chinese nationals, though Qian Xuesen contributed to early American rocketry before being deported to China. A Chinese engineer, Wong Tsu, contributed significantly to Boeing's early aircraft designs, but he was not the sole designer of Boeing’s first plane. Would you like more details or sources for verification?