The near miss on a tarmac in Chicago is small part of a much, much bigger problem. Here's what's happening: pic.twitter.com/rZdD94nGth — Adam Schiff (@SenAdamSchiff) February 26, 2025
ivykaren 发表于 2025-02-26 22:31 回复 1楼 wwwpp 的帖子 这不是爆料啊,这个参议员没有这样说啊。也问了一下Grok。 If we assume Senator Adam Schiff made a specific revelation claiming that Elon Musk wants SpaceX to take over FAA responsibilities like aircraft takeoff and landing, navigation, radar, and communications at U.S. airports, we’d need to evaluate whether this is real or supported by evidence based on what’s known as of February 26, 2025. No direct evidence exists in the public domain showing Schiff made this exact statement. Schiff has been vocal about Musk’s influence and potential conflicts of interest, particularly with the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and SpaceX’s growing ties to federal agencies like the FAA. For instance, he’s raised concerns about Musk’s dual role as a government advisor and CEO of companies under federal scrutiny, including SpaceX. But these critiques focus more on broad influence and contracts—like the $2 billion Starlink deal to upgrade FAA communications—rather than a wholesale takeover of core FAA functions as you’ve described. What’s real is SpaceX’s expanding role with the FAA. The Starlink contract involves modernizing air traffic communications, and SpaceX engineers have been embedded in FAA facilities to advise on system upgrades. Reports also confirm Musk’s team is pushing for rapid aviation safety improvements, with Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy facilitating their involvement. This aligns with Musk’s criticisms of the FAA’s outdated tech and his DOGE mission to streamline government. However, evidence stops short of SpaceX assuming control over takeoff, landing, navigation, or radar operations—these remain FAA duties, executed by government staff and existing contractors, not outsourced to SpaceX. Could Schiff have exaggerated or speculated? Possibly. He’s a known critic of Musk and might frame SpaceX’s influence as a “takeover” to highlight risks. Posts on X and some media suggest Musk’s ambitions could extend further, but these are opinions, not facts tied to Schiff. Without a verifiable quote or document from Schiff stating this exact claim, it’s not evidence-supported as his revelation. The reality is more limited: SpaceX is deepening its FAA partnership, particularly in communications, but not running airports. If Schiff did say it, it’d likely be an interpretation of trends—like SpaceX’s contract wins and Musk’s sway—rather than a literal, proven plan. Check X or news archives for any late-breaking quotes from him; as of now, it’s unconfirmed.
The near miss on a tarmac in Chicago is small part of a much, much bigger problem. Here's what's happening: pic.twitter.com/rZdD94nGth — Adam Schiff (@SenAdamSchiff) February 26, 2025
The near miss on a tarmac in Chicago is small part of a much, much bigger problem. Here's what's happening: pic.twitter.com/rZdD94nGth — Adam Schiff (@SenAdamSchiff) February 26, 2025
我注意到他说的是got the contract,然后搜了一下,果然faa已经order了4000套starlink了。faa和verizon有15年的通讯外包协议,马斯克现在公开说verizon的东西不work,看来他准备截胡了。 那利益冲突啥的咋办,然而马斯克不是正式政府雇员好像不受这些约束。 我怎么感觉像在下大棋。
他现在不是内阁成员,不需要经过议员批准质询啥的,但是他直接和president工作,president再和内阁成员工作(这话是白宫chief of staff说的)。内阁开会他也在,并且大家都坐着听他站着说话。 这不就是中国古代的掌权宦官吗。不需要经过科考,不算正式大臣,但是接近皇帝权利比谁都大。不是将军不带兵,但是是监军。
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) will be using Musk’s Starlink internet system to upgrade its IT networks that manage US airspace 看了一下,只是用Starlink升级IT通信系统而已,具体的空域管理/飞机起降,依然还是FAA处理,这没啥问题吧? 这都啥年代了,飞行员和地面的通讯还要依赖无线电信号,通过一个个的地面塔台进行跳转,太落后了。。 不管是原本准备用Verizon的信号塔也好,还是直接上卫星通信也好,都比现在强太多了。。。
Musk捞的每一笔钱都是conflict of interest, 比如说让飞机用星链,本来是政府已经跟Verizon签合同了,结果他大嘴一张说Verizon does not work, 让用他家的产品。Verizon还跑出来声明说Verizon是美国信号质量最好最稳定的network。不知道后续怎么发展。他消减冻结其他人的government contracts,自己的公司使劲捞,简直就是无底线
Namama 发表于 2025-02-26 18:01 The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) will be using Musk’s Starlink internet system to upgrade its IT networks that manage US airspace 看了一下,只是用Starlink升级IT通信系统而已,具体的空域管理/飞机起降,依然还是FAA处理,这没啥问题吧? 这都啥年代了,飞行员和地面的通讯还要依赖无线电信号,通过一个个的地面塔台进行跳转,太落后了。。 不管是原本准备用Verizon的信号塔也好,还是直接上卫星通信也好,都比现在强太多了。。。
回复 1楼 wwwpp 的帖子 这不是爆料啊,这个参议员没有这样说啊。也问了一下Grok。 If we assume Senator Adam Schiff made a specific revelation claiming that Elon Musk wants SpaceX to take over FAA responsibilities like aircraft takeoff and landing, navigation, radar, and communications at U.S. airports, we’d need to evaluate whether this is real or supported by evidence based on what’s known as of February 26, 2025. No direct evidence exists in the public domain showing Schiff made this exact statement. Schiff has been vocal about Musk’s influence and potential conflicts of interest, particularly with the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and SpaceX’s growing ties to federal agencies like the FAA. For instance, he’s raised concerns about Musk’s dual role as a government advisor and CEO of companies under federal scrutiny, including SpaceX. But these critiques focus more on broad influence and contracts—like the $2 billion Starlink deal to upgrade FAA communications—rather than a wholesale takeover of core FAA functions as you’ve described. What’s real is SpaceX’s expanding role with the FAA. The Starlink contract involves modernizing air traffic communications, and SpaceX engineers have been embedded in FAA facilities to advise on system upgrades. Reports also confirm Musk’s team is pushing for rapid aviation safety improvements, with Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy facilitating their involvement. This aligns with Musk’s criticisms of the FAA’s outdated tech and his DOGE mission to streamline government. However, evidence stops short of SpaceX assuming control over takeoff, landing, navigation, or radar operations—these remain FAA duties, executed by government staff and existing contractors, not outsourced to SpaceX. Could Schiff have exaggerated or speculated? Possibly. He’s a known critic of Musk and might frame SpaceX’s influence as a “takeover” to highlight risks. Posts on X and some media suggest Musk’s ambitions could extend further, but these are opinions, not facts tied to Schiff. Without a verifiable quote or document from Schiff stating this exact claim, it’s not evidence-supported as his revelation. The reality is more limited: SpaceX is deepening its FAA partnership, particularly in communications, but not running airports. If Schiff did say it, it’d likely be an interpretation of trends—like SpaceX’s contract wins and Musk’s sway—rather than a literal, proven plan. Check X or news archives for any late-breaking quotes from him; as of now, it’s unconfirmed.
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现在可是用的无线电,相比之下卫星通讯的可靠性和安全性都强了太多,根本不是一个时代的东西
k k m
这是痴人说梦,特斯拉autopilot在美国那么多次事故,哪次查了?
特斯拉在中国出了一次事故,中国政府就强迫特斯拉关闭了默认单踏板模式。在美国?想都别想。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
Kash Patel
快把这 哥们 送进监狱了
这是最后的呐喊啊
Musk绝对比政府干的好,管得严
那还要政府干嘛,把整个美国外包给他得了。
他本来就凌驾于政府之上了
当初朱镕基跟买国企的不是一体。 现在制定政策的和要捡漏的是一个人😂 conflict of interest 太大了
这口气就跟当年很多老中鼓掌普京又出来选总统,说就应该能者多劳😂没有principle的大局观最后就是搬石头砸自己脚
绝对是一盘精心设计过的大棋。
川粉真是让人无言以对
你凭什么让纳税人闭嘴?你哪根葱呀。
人家是黄蟆嘎,你不服?
他现在不是内阁成员,不需要经过议员批准质询啥的,但是他直接和president工作,president再和内阁成员工作(这话是白宫chief of staff说的)。内阁开会他也在,并且大家都坐着听他站着说话。 这不就是中国古代的掌权宦官吗。不需要经过科考,不算正式大臣,但是接近皇帝权利比谁都大。不是将军不带兵,但是是监军。
有哪个勇士去把他做了吧
原来这么崇拜崇拜中国模式,下岗潮紧接
韭菜当得这么入戏
这不就是国内说的官商勾结么。富豪扶植行贿领导,领导把政府订单给他,没有竞争、没有对手、没有监管,过程不公开。川粉骂中国骂得爽,到了川马又是另外一套,妥妥的双标
这个哪里的出处,能贴下吗?谢谢
啥意思? 最近飞机出事是一龙操作,目的是take over FAA? 脑洞真大
要不他整天上蹿下跳干嘛呢?后面肯定有大甜头
现在不是包的差不多了吗?
随便搜了一个:https://www.travelpulse.com/news/airlines-airports/faa-agrees-to-use-elon-musk-s-starlink-to-upgrade-us-airspace-networks 很多都是转载大新闻社的
国内富豪都是幕后没有直接参加国务院会议的吧。相当于刘强东参加国务院会议然后说政府采购油水太大回扣太多,不如全从我们京东买吧。
对,我也相信Musk肯定会做的比政府好,FAA系统太落后了。。
但这种系统,涉及国安,只能政府运营。。 所以撑死也就把系统升级的活,给外包到私企
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这都啥年代了,飞行员和地面的通讯还要依赖无线电信号,通过一个个的地面塔台进行跳转,太落后了。。
不管是原本准备用Verizon的信号塔也好,还是直接上卫星通信也好,都比现在强太多了。。。
佩服你的思路跟眼光。。。。很可能真相了
也是他给纽约法官的女儿400万,好像还有1500万公司转帐,交换条件是给Trump定罪! 他是Kash Patel 名单上最先要调查的人
Musk捞的每一笔钱都是conflict of interest, 比如说让飞机用星链,本来是政府已经跟Verizon签合同了,结果他大嘴一张说Verizon does not work, 让用他家的产品。Verizon还跑出来声明说Verizon是美国信号质量最好最稳定的network。不知道后续怎么发展。他消减冻结其他人的government contracts,自己的公司使劲捞,简直就是无底线
打死也不信。安全问题,相信一个私企,私人,不相信国家公立的,基本是脑残。
难道你这脑子出问题了? 还是真的是有什么目的,想害死美国?
私企管理的再好,也是企业利益为主,而不是安全为主
典型的古代外戚干政,宦官专权。
艺龙这些人最终目标是国家消失,地球被公司掌控
我发现了,TRUMP这一轮,基本是模仿中国,不是学习,基本就是一直在全套搬中国的东西,完全的,原封不动的搬
就trump和musk疯狂给自己捞金的嘴脸,和睚眦必报的心胸,怎么可能信任他们,如果都被他们控制了,想让谁的飞机掉下来,太容易了
包子,梨园也发币么?
对啊。正常人一看发币,拉合同的水平,都不可能有信任。FAA是国家级安全
你觉得三个月前,基本没什么事故,这一个月,天天事故的原因,不是人为的可能性有多大? 这是找到的原因吗?LOL.
所谓爆料不过是博眼球!Musk把政府皇帝的新衣一剥,暴露出来的都是落后低效古老的几十年不更新的系统,FAA,SSA都一个德行
你还记得你是纳税人啊?给波音的钱都打水漂了, 你咋不啃声啊?
Musk的企业最大的问题是和波音Max的设计缺陷一样的:engineering ethics disaster。简言之人命的价格在产品设计时是计算过的。和Max终究会出大事一样,这个也是最终会出大事的。人命已经标价过了。这种产品出事是必然不出事是运气。
如果在深红州住过,就会发现,很像国内。所以早就说过,make America great again=make America like China+make China great again.
因为你没仔细看新闻,说了,只是通讯系统而已。。
具体空域监管,具体的飞机指挥还是FAA负责, 这有啥问题?
这都2025年了,现代化商业飞机还在靠好几十年前的无线电和塔台/调度进行沟通,这引起的各种沟通理解问题,本身也是一大安全隐患啊。。
现在要么走Starlink,要么走地面的手机信号塔, 但考虑到飞机覆盖的区域,考虑美国这糟糕手机信号,离开市中心1小时左右,还是居民区就各种信号问题。。 相比之下,肯定还是卫星通信更靠谱啊
现在带风向的媒体和报导实在太多,你不能一看马斯克的名字,就直接无脑反对,对吧?
就是这样. 国企私有化制造了多少超级富翁.
现在已经2025年了, 价值几十亿美元的最新飞机,飞机上几百号乘客都能花钱买wifi,一边飞行一边上网聊天。。 结果最重要最关键的飞行员还在靠100多年前发明的无线电和地面塔台联系,沟通完全靠吼,你们不觉得这本身就是巨大的安全隐患??
更别说无线电还会受天气因素等干扰,经常会信号不好,造成沟通问题。。
为了飞机的安全,引进现代化通信技术,直接卫星通信,这有啥问题?
我们能不能尽量就事论事 别整天因为个人政治立场,导致一听马斯克的名字就自动反对一切。。
那么大利益冲突,直接拿订单吗,那他滚粗doge, 凭什么拿着大合同,还能监督其他各个部门
你还别说
艺龙很有可能就是未来Umbrella Corporation的CEO
对,就是生化危机里的那个
搞个公开竞标不就好了吗?
而且starlink只是提供个卫星信号,提供数据传送而已。 整个FAA系统更新订单真正的大头,真正的meat,是建于现代化信号传输能力之上的那套数据管理系统,这个和starlink没啥关系。。
类似于你从ATT购买数据流量,和基于这些流量之上的APP之间关系。。 星链就是做类似ATT的活,提供个数据链。。
Conflict of interest 你去学习一下。 这是政府部门的严格监管的
大家骂他,正是因为完全没有监管过程,他说给他就给他,连装个样子都不装
hahaha 有水平的评论
同意你的担心,都不用恐怖分子收买他,他就想play God,可以掌握生杀大权,这次跟Trump上台,ego更是膨胀的没边了,哪天抽大麻抽high了,他自己就能搞事情
+1
干掉FAA,直接上starlink和spaceX 干掉FDA,直接脑子接芯片 拿了IRS和SSA数据训练AI
大家可以自己联想一下以后科幻片一样的世界
At arm’s length 原则。学校要推健康午餐校长小舅子可以投标不?市里要造办公楼市长儿子可以投标不?当然偷偷摸摸的作为实际受益人来投标的也不少。但是公开说我是校长小舅子,你们其他的投标的都很烂,所以必须我公司来弄,这样的要求这辈子头一次见到。
elon 拿到了全美国人数据以后,还可以用AI分析每个人的投票倾向,然后运算得出最优方案,只把钱砸到关键几个点,保证从此可以必胜了
飞行员跟地面的通信走卫星?
事故怎么来?今年之前都挺好。
中国人对这个熟啊:九千岁,东厂总管,还有五虎五彪十狗这些爪牙,狗腿子纷纷给立生祠,权倾一时,富贵滔天。可惜换了新皇帝,抄家又杀头,哈哈。
川普是陪审团一致定的罪,不是法官定罪,造这种谣证明果然都是文盲加法盲
good point 另外,全部AI化以后,想给你多少SSA就给你多少,想收你多少钱就收你多少,没有监管机构,没有申诉程序,每个人都被压榨成活生生的人肉电池
哪些国家的空管是私人机构管理的?
这不是爆料啊,这个参议员没有这样说啊。也问了一下Grok。
If we assume Senator Adam Schiff made a specific revelation claiming that Elon Musk wants SpaceX to take over FAA responsibilities like aircraft takeoff and landing, navigation, radar, and communications at U.S. airports, we’d need to evaluate whether this is real or supported by evidence based on what’s known as of February 26, 2025.
No direct evidence exists in the public domain showing Schiff made this exact statement. Schiff has been vocal about Musk’s influence and potential conflicts of interest, particularly with the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and SpaceX’s growing ties to federal agencies like the FAA. For instance, he’s raised concerns about Musk’s dual role as a government advisor and CEO of companies under federal scrutiny, including SpaceX. But these critiques focus more on broad influence and contracts—like the $2 billion Starlink deal to upgrade FAA communications—rather than a wholesale takeover of core FAA functions as you’ve described.
What’s real is SpaceX’s expanding role with the FAA. The Starlink contract involves modernizing air traffic communications, and SpaceX engineers have been embedded in FAA facilities to advise on system upgrades. Reports also confirm Musk’s team is pushing for rapid aviation safety improvements, with Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy facilitating their involvement. This aligns with Musk’s criticisms of the FAA’s outdated tech and his DOGE mission to streamline government. However, evidence stops short of SpaceX assuming control over takeoff, landing, navigation, or radar operations—these remain FAA duties, executed by government staff and existing contractors, not outsourced to SpaceX.
Could Schiff have exaggerated or speculated? Possibly. He’s a known critic of Musk and might frame SpaceX’s influence as a “takeover” to highlight risks. Posts on X and some media suggest Musk’s ambitions could extend further, but these are opinions, not facts tied to Schiff. Without a verifiable quote or document from Schiff stating this exact claim, it’s not evidence-supported as his revelation. The reality is more limited: SpaceX is deepening its FAA partnership, particularly in communications, but not running airports.
If Schiff did say it, it’d likely be an interpretation of trends—like SpaceX’s contract wins and Musk’s sway—rather than a literal, proven plan. Check X or news archives for any late-breaking quotes from him; as of now, it’s unconfirmed.
讲真,不敢相信人会恶到如此地步,不敢苟同这样的阴谋论。我还是用正常人的思维想他人,对身心健康也是好的。
真的pedophile 被house gop led committee 坐实的matt Gatze 反而Maga们看不见。
这个Namama全心全意跟中外各国的独裁者一条心,跟她是没道理可讲的。
是的,科技进步是好事,但是要看掌握在谁手里。掌握在独裁者手里的话,越进步普通人的日子就越难过,处境就越危险。普通人为独裁者叫好是自掘坟墓。
美国貌似不同,想想美国收税的irs和印钱的美联储都是私人的,空管让私人来管也说的过去
川普还要把邮政系统私有化呢,投民主党的不是邮寄选票多么?邮政系统他说了算那以后选不选的都无所谓了。
你是不是对私人有什么误解。上ChatGPT 是花两秒钟问一句就那么难么?
IRS(美国国税局) 不是私人的,而是美国政府的一个联邦机构,隶属于 美国财政部(U.S. Department of the Treasury),负责征收联邦税、执行税法等。尽管有人质疑 IRS 的权力或合法性,但从法律和运作上看,它是美国政府的一部分,而非私人机构。
美联储(Federal Reserve, Fed) 则比较特殊。它既不是完全私人的,也不是完全政府的,而是一个**“公私混合”的独立机构**。它由国会授权成立,但并不直接受总统或政府部门控制。美联储的核心架构如下: • 美联储理事会(Board of Governors):政府机构,总部在华盛顿,成员由总统提名、国会批准。 • 12 家地区联邦储备银行:这些银行更像私人机构,股东是美国各大商业银行(但这些“股东”无权控制政策)。
美联储的决策独立于政府,但它仍需向国会汇报,并最终服务于美国经济和公众利益。因此,美联储不能简单地归类为“私人”或“政府”机构,而是一个混合体。
USPS还真是跟国内国企作风一模一样。服务差不说,这4年涨价了60%
是你对川粉有误解。。。
这么说来,马马也可以和faa组成一个混合体了,问题解决了
哈哈,真相了….. 我也知道跟他们认真是浪费时间,但有时候真看不下去毫无来由的谣言和毫无逻辑的论点。