美国债台高筑，现在deficit 2 trillion一年。现在一共是36个trillion的debt。 每年收的tax，一个很大的portion（20%)付了debt的interest，注意，不是付debt，是付debt的interest。长此以往，inflation难以控制，到哪一天，美国破产终会发生。等发生了，股市也好，债券也好，都会一文不名。 可以看看Grok的解答 The U.S. national debt has been on a steep upward trajectory for decades, accelerating in recent years due to a combination of increased government spending, tax cuts, and economic challenges. As of today, February 21, 2025, the total national debt exceeds $36 trillion, according to the latest figures from the U.S. Treasury. Here’s a breakdown of the trend: Historically, the debt grew modestly relative to the economy’s size until the 1980s, when it began rising more sharply due to tax cuts under Reagan and increased military spending. It hovered around 30-40% of GDP through the post-World War II boom, dipped to a low of 31.8% in 1981, then climbed steadily. By 2000, it was about $5.6 trillion (55% of GDP). The early 2000s saw spikes from the 9/11 response and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, pushing it to $9 trillion by 2008. The 2008 financial crisis marked a turning point. Massive stimulus and bailouts drove the debt to $16.7 trillion by 2013, surpassing 100% of GDP for the first time since World War II. It kept growing under Obama and Trump, hitting $27.7 trillion by 2020—boosted by tax cuts in 2017 and early COVID-19 relief. The pandemic then supercharged it: between 2020 and now, it’s jumped roughly $11 trillion, fueled by relief packages, infrastructure spending, and ongoing deficits. In 2023 alone, it grew from $31.4 trillion to $34 trillion, and it’s now at $36.2 trillion as of January 2025. The debt-to-GDP ratio, a key measure of sustainability, reflects this climb. It was 98% in 2024 and is projected to hit 116% by 2035, per the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), surpassing the post-WWII peak of 106%. Deficits—averaging 6.3% of GDP over the next decade—are driving this, a level unheard of outside wars or crises. Interest costs are ballooning too, reaching $881 billion in 2024 and forecast to hit $952 billion in 2025, outpacing many budget categories like Medicaid. The trend shows no sign of slowing under current policy. The CBO estimates debt could reach $50 trillion by 2034 if spending and revenue gaps persist. Structural drivers—aging populations, rising healthcare costs (Medicare/Medicaid), and interest payments—outstrip revenue growth, even with a strong economy. Posts on X echo this, with users noting the debt’s 448% increase since 2000 and its compounding at over 9% annually in the last five years. In short, the U.S. debt is on an exponential path, doubling in the past 15 years and projected to keep rising unless major fiscal changes occur. Want me to zoom in on a specific period or factor?
also from Grok: “So, practically speaking, around 20% of all your tax dollars—and nearly 40% of your income tax dollars—are currently going to interest on the debt. ” As of February 21, 2025, the portion of U.S. tax revenue used to pay interest on the national debt has been rising sharply due to growing debt and higher interest rates. In fiscal year 2024 (which ended September 30, 2024), the federal government spent $881 billion on net interest costs, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). For fiscal year 2025, the CBO projects this to increase to $952 billion. To break it down: the federal government collects revenue primarily from individual income taxes, payroll taxes (like Social Security and Medicare), corporate income taxes, and other sources. In fiscal year 2023, total federal revenue was about $4.5 trillion, with individual income taxes making up roughly half—around $2.2 trillion. For 2025, assuming revenue trends hold and adjust for modest growth, total revenue might be closer to $4.7 trillion, with individual income taxes still around $2.3-$2.4 trillion. Using the 2024 figure of $881 billion in interest costs against 2023’s $4.5 trillion in total revenue, interest consumed about 19.6% of all federal revenue. If we narrow it to just individual income taxes ($2.2 trillion), it’s about 40%—meaning 40 cents of every income tax dollar went to interest. For 2025, with $952 billion in projected interest and an estimated $4.7 trillion in total revenue, it’s around 20.3% of total revenue. Against an estimated $2.4 trillion in income taxes, it’s roughly 39.7%. Posts on X and some analyses, like from The Heritage Foundation, have claimed figures as high as 40-75% of income tax revenue going to interest, depending on the month or assumptions about revenue growth. These vary because monthly debt payments fluctuate and revenue isn’t evenly distributed year-round. The CBO’s data, however, provides a more consistent annual view: interest is eating up a growing chunk of the budget, projected to hit 20.2% of total federal revenue in 2025, or about 3.4% of GDP. So, practically speaking, around 20% of all your tax dollars—and nearly 40% of your income tax dollars—are currently going to interest on the debt. That’s a hefty slice, and it’s set to climb unless deficits shrink or rates drop. Want me to run more precise numbers with different assumptions?
ivykaren 发表于 2025-02-21 12:19 美国债台高筑，现在deficit 2 trillion一年。现在一共是36个trillion的debt。 每年收的tax，一个很大的portion（20%)付了debt的interest，注意，不是付debt，是付debt的interest。长此以往，inflation难以控制，到哪一天，美国破产终会发生。等发生了，股市也好，债券也好，都会一文不名。 可以看看Grok的解答 The U.S. national debt has been on a steep upward trajectory for decades, accelerating in recent years due to a combination of increased government spending, tax cuts, and economic challenges. As of today, February 21, 2025, the total national debt exceeds $36 trillion, according to the latest figures from the U.S. Treasury. Here’s a breakdown of the trend: Historically, the debt grew modestly relative to the economy’s size until the 1980s, when it began rising more sharply due to tax cuts under Reagan and increased military spending. It hovered around 30-40% of GDP through the post-World War II boom, dipped to a low of 31.8% in 1981, then climbed steadily. By 2000, it was about $5.6 trillion (55% of GDP). The early 2000s saw spikes from the 9/11 response and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, pushing it to $9 trillion by 2008. The 2008 financial crisis marked a turning point. Massive stimulus and bailouts drove the debt to $16.7 trillion by 2013, surpassing 100% of GDP for the first time since World War II. It kept growing under Obama and Trump, hitting $27.7 trillion by 2020—boosted by tax cuts in 2017 and early COVID-19 relief. The pandemic then supercharged it: between 2020 and now, it’s jumped roughly $11 trillion, fueled by relief packages, infrastructure spending, and ongoing deficits. In 2023 alone, it grew from $31.4 trillion to $34 trillion, and it’s now at $36.2 trillion as of January 2025. The debt-to-GDP ratio, a key measure of sustainability, reflects this climb. It was 98% in 2024 and is projected to hit 116% by 2035, per the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), surpassing the post-WWII peak of 106%. Deficits—averaging 6.3% of GDP over the next decade—are driving this, a level unheard of outside wars or crises. Interest costs are ballooning too, reaching $881 billion in 2024 and forecast to hit $952 billion in 2025, outpacing many budget categories like Medicaid. The trend shows no sign of slowing under current policy. The CBO estimates debt could reach $50 trillion by 2034 if spending and revenue gaps persist. Structural drivers—aging populations, rising healthcare costs (Medicare/Medicaid), and interest payments—outstrip revenue growth, even with a strong economy. Posts on X echo this, with users noting the debt’s 448% increase since 2000 and its compounding at over 9% annually in the last five years. In short, the U.S. debt is on an exponential path, doubling in the past 15 years and projected to keep rising unless major fiscal changes occur. Want me to zoom in on a specific period or factor?
可以看看Ezra Klein show 采访Kara Swisher 总结 权力瘾 自恋 自大 服用药物 未成年 黑暗右翼memes与阴谋论 （Dark enlightenment, 白人种族灭绝论）南非成长背景（另一位右翼大佬Peter Thiel 也曾在南非度过童年）优生学 蔑视规则 破坏一切 “they want to burn it down and start again, democracy does not work" “it is all about destruction" 毁坏一切然后重来，因为他们认为自己最优秀。
回复 21楼 blue2345 的帖子 我问了AI一下你说的trump的tax cut，见下，第一他希望extend2017年的plan，10年一共是4.6个trillion。DOGE的目标我理解是希望在2026年前能cut 2 trillion，注意时间线。并非后者只是前者的冰山一角。 另外，cut tax和cut expense并不矛盾。要看什么tax和什么expense。对吧。 From Grok I assume you’re asking about Donald Trump’s tax cut plan, likely tied to his current administration as of February 21, 2025. Based on the latest available data and his stated priorities, here’s what’s on the table: Trump’s tax cut plan builds on extending the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), his signature first-term legislation, which is set to expire for individuals at the end of 2025. The TCJA slashed the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%, doubled the standard deduction, and lowered individual income tax rates across most brackets—benefits that disproportionately helped middle- and working-class earners in terms of percentage income gains, per IRS data. Extending it fully is estimated to cost $4.6 trillion over 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). Beyond that, Trump’s 2025 agenda, as pitched during his campaign and early second term, includes targeted cuts: - **No tax on tips**: Aimed at service workers, this could save affected households a few hundred to a couple thousand dollars annually, depending on income. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) pegs the 10-year cost at $100-$550 billion. - **No tax on overtime pay**: This would boost take-home pay for hourly workers, especially in manufacturing and retail. Cost estimates range wildly, from $150 billion to $3 trillion over a decade, depending on how it’s defined (income tax only or payroll too). - **No tax on Social Security benefits**: About 40% of recipients currently pay income tax on benefits; exempting them could cut their tax bills significantly. CRFB estimates a $550 billion to $1.5 trillion hit to revenue over 10 years. - **SALT deduction tweak**: Trump’s signaled raising or scrapping the TCJA’s $10,000 cap on state and local tax deductions, a boon for high-tax state residents (e.g., New York, California). Raising it to $20,000 or eliminating it could cost $100 billion to $1 trillion. - **Corporate tax cuts**: He’s floated dropping the rate to 15% for U.S.-made goods, down from 21%, to spur domestic production. No firm cost yet, but a broader 15% rate could reduce revenue by $1-2 trillion over 10 years. The House GOP’s February 2025 budget resolution allocates $4.5 trillion for tax cuts, aligning with Trump’s push, and proposes a $4 trillion debt ceiling hike to cover it. To offset costs, Republicans are eyeing $1.5-$2 trillion in spending cuts—possibly to Medicaid, SNAP, or other safety nets—plus a 10% universal import tariff (projected to raise $1.9 trillion, though consumers would feel it via higher prices). Trump’s also mentioned closing loopholes like carried interest (a tax break for investment managers) and stadium financing perks, but those might yield only $20-$100 billion combined. Total cost? Estimates vary. The CRFB suggests Trump’s full wish list could slash revenue by $5-$11 trillion over a decade, pushing debt-to-GDP from 100% today to 132%-149% by 2035 if unoffset. Critics argue tariffs and growth won’t cover it—2017’s cuts added $2.5 trillion to the debt despite rosy projections. Supporters say it’ll juice the economy, pointing to post-2017 wage gains for lower earners. That’s the gist as of now. Details are still fluid—Congress is haggling over a single bill or phased approach. Want me to drill into any part, like impacts or funding debates?
这张被Musk repost 的图更诡异了。
比如美国修宪归化公民可以做总统？
BTW，Kennedy儿子是飞机失事死的。。。X会有什么下场？
即使没有出生的限制，民主选举，他根本没戏吧。他把川普当成了他的木马吗？现在美国总统究竟是谁？
这图片究竟是黑是吹？看不懂
肯尼迪是最后一任有实权的总统，后面的都是深州操控的傀儡
到处播种！
p2025这窝才是有agenda的
可以看看Grok的解答 The U.S. national debt has been on a steep upward trajectory for decades, accelerating in recent years due to a combination of increased government spending, tax cuts, and economic challenges. As of today, February 21, 2025, the total national debt exceeds $36 trillion, according to the latest figures from the U.S. Treasury. Here’s a breakdown of the trend:
Historically, the debt grew modestly relative to the economy’s size until the 1980s, when it began rising more sharply due to tax cuts under Reagan and increased military spending. It hovered around 30-40% of GDP through the post-World War II boom, dipped to a low of 31.8% in 1981, then climbed steadily. By 2000, it was about $5.6 trillion (55% of GDP). The early 2000s saw spikes from the 9/11 response and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, pushing it to $9 trillion by 2008.
The 2008 financial crisis marked a turning point. Massive stimulus and bailouts drove the debt to $16.7 trillion by 2013, surpassing 100% of GDP for the first time since World War II. It kept growing under Obama and Trump, hitting $27.7 trillion by 2020—boosted by tax cuts in 2017 and early COVID-19 relief. The pandemic then supercharged it: between 2020 and now, it’s jumped roughly $11 trillion, fueled by relief packages, infrastructure spending, and ongoing deficits. In 2023 alone, it grew from $31.4 trillion to $34 trillion, and it’s now at $36.2 trillion as of January 2025.
The debt-to-GDP ratio, a key measure of sustainability, reflects this climb. It was 98% in 2024 and is projected to hit 116% by 2035, per the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), surpassing the post-WWII peak of 106%. Deficits—averaging 6.3% of GDP over the next decade—are driving this, a level unheard of outside wars or crises. Interest costs are ballooning too, reaching $881 billion in 2024 and forecast to hit $952 billion in 2025, outpacing many budget categories like Medicaid.
The trend shows no sign of slowing under current policy. The CBO estimates debt could reach $50 trillion by 2034 if spending and revenue gaps persist. Structural drivers—aging populations, rising healthcare costs (Medicare/Medicaid), and interest payments—outstrip revenue growth, even with a strong economy. Posts on X echo this, with users noting the debt’s 448% increase since 2000 and its compounding at over 9% annually in the last five years.
In short, the U.S. debt is on an exponential path, doubling in the past 15 years and projected to keep rising unless major fiscal changes occur. Want me to zoom in on a specific period or factor?
“So, practically speaking, around 20% of all your tax dollars—and nearly 40% of your income tax dollars—are currently going to interest on the debt. ”
As of February 21, 2025, the portion of U.S. tax revenue used to pay interest on the national debt has been rising sharply due to growing debt and higher interest rates. In fiscal year 2024 (which ended September 30, 2024), the federal government spent $881 billion on net interest costs, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). For fiscal year 2025, the CBO projects this to increase to $952 billion.
To break it down: the federal government collects revenue primarily from individual income taxes, payroll taxes (like Social Security and Medicare), corporate income taxes, and other sources. In fiscal year 2023, total federal revenue was about $4.5 trillion, with individual income taxes making up roughly half—around $2.2 trillion. For 2025, assuming revenue trends hold and adjust for modest growth, total revenue might be closer to $4.7 trillion, with individual income taxes still around $2.3-$2.4 trillion.
Using the 2024 figure of $881 billion in interest costs against 2023’s $4.5 trillion in total revenue, interest consumed about 19.6% of all federal revenue. If we narrow it to just individual income taxes ($2.2 trillion), it’s about 40%—meaning 40 cents of every income tax dollar went to interest. For 2025, with $952 billion in projected interest and an estimated $4.7 trillion in total revenue, it’s around 20.3% of total revenue. Against an estimated $2.4 trillion in income taxes, it’s roughly 39.7%.
Posts on X and some analyses, like from The Heritage Foundation, have claimed figures as high as 40-75% of income tax revenue going to interest, depending on the month or assumptions about revenue growth. These vary because monthly debt payments fluctuate and revenue isn’t evenly distributed year-round. The CBO’s data, however, provides a more consistent annual view: interest is eating up a growing chunk of the budget, projected to hit 20.2% of total federal revenue in 2025, or about 3.4% of GDP.
So, practically speaking, around 20% of all your tax dollars—and nearly 40% of your income tax dollars—are currently going to interest on the debt. That’s a hefty slice, and it’s set to climb unless deficits shrink or rates drop. Want me to run more precise numbers with different assumptions?
胡说，美国只要一天是文明世界领导世人都觉得跟着美国比中俄好，美元资产永远值钱
一旦背弃了西欧，美元才不值钱
你去听一下他在Lex上面那好几个数小时长的采访，就知道他大致想干嘛了。。
这些采访时间跨度好几年，远早于这次选举，还是反应了他真实想法的。。
真心没必要搞这些阴谋论。。
中国人花费小心，西方对借债习以为然，这反映在普通美国人的消费习惯，也反映在国家的消费习惯。个人可以破产，国家破产，会是什么样子？
DOGE做不做得成，能做多少，拭目以待。DOGE的网页据说有所有他们的每一步进展。如果有违规，自然有法律系统的介入。民主党的政客也不会放过他们。
没有灵性的觉醒，现在世界上发生的一切你都没法理解。
实在不行，去读读圣经也行啊。
最好笑的就是居然有人觉得川普和Musk在乎美国的赤字。因为川普的减税法案会造成美国赤字大增，连共和党内都不会被通过。DOGE砍那一点，和减税法案的赤字比，就是个小花生米。
那你讲一件，Musk搞Federal Reserve 和美国黄金储备是为啥？他的Neuralink是要干什么？他在欧洲扶持AfD那种政党是要干什么？
总结 权力瘾 自恋 自大 服用药物 未成年 黑暗右翼memes与阴谋论 （Dark enlightenment, 白人种族灭绝论）南非成长背景（另一位右翼大佬Peter Thiel 也曾在南非度过童年）优生学 蔑视规则 破坏一切 “they want to burn it down and start again, democracy does not work" “it is all about destruction" 毁坏一切然后重来，因为他们认为自己最优秀。
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黄金储备啥的，是政治运作需要，他一个政治素人，需要持续炒作话题热度才能维持民众的支持
Neuralink是他一直关心的前沿科技研发 扶持AfD是因为他反Woke.
Kara Swisher是极左，和马斯克算是有个人恩怨很多年了。。 都别说马斯克了，小札哪怕在跳反前，也是一样被她各种喷。。。
所以除非你是极左，要不然她的东西，听听就算了，立场太偏激了。。
所以政府越大越好 税越多才好？
马斯克在乎，川普不在乎
两人在财政赤字问题上的立场截然不同
你如果多关注一下最近一个月的新闻肯定不会这么想了，我一开始也觉得就像他自己说的他不喜欢政治只是为了帮政府控制开支，但现在看来当时真是天真
这个采访基于她多年对这些人深入采访的背景，没看到喷，只是阐述观点与事实。这叫喷的话马一龙跟大统领叫什么，天天上演歇斯底里吗？白宫精神病院？
我问了AI一下你说的trump的tax cut，见下，第一他希望extend2017年的plan，10年一共是4.6个trillion。DOGE的目标我理解是希望在2026年前能cut 2 trillion，注意时间线。并非后者只是前者的冰山一角。
另外，cut tax和cut expense并不矛盾。要看什么tax和什么expense。对吧。
From Grok
I assume you’re asking about Donald Trump’s tax cut plan, likely tied to his current administration as of February 21, 2025. Based on the latest available data and his stated priorities, here’s what’s on the table:
Trump’s tax cut plan builds on extending the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), his signature first-term legislation, which is set to expire for individuals at the end of 2025. The TCJA slashed the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%, doubled the standard deduction, and lowered individual income tax rates across most brackets—benefits that disproportionately helped middle- and working-class earners in terms of percentage income gains, per IRS data. Extending it fully is estimated to cost $4.6 trillion over 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).
Beyond that, Trump’s 2025 agenda, as pitched during his campaign and early second term, includes targeted cuts: - **No tax on tips**: Aimed at service workers, this could save affected households a few hundred to a couple thousand dollars annually, depending on income. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB) pegs the 10-year cost at $100-$550 billion. - **No tax on overtime pay**: This would boost take-home pay for hourly workers, especially in manufacturing and retail. Cost estimates range wildly, from $150 billion to $3 trillion over a decade, depending on how it’s defined (income tax only or payroll too). - **No tax on Social Security benefits**: About 40% of recipients currently pay income tax on benefits; exempting them could cut their tax bills significantly. CRFB estimates a $550 billion to $1.5 trillion hit to revenue over 10 years. - **SALT deduction tweak**: Trump’s signaled raising or scrapping the TCJA’s $10,000 cap on state and local tax deductions, a boon for high-tax state residents (e.g., New York, California). Raising it to $20,000 or eliminating it could cost $100 billion to $1 trillion. - **Corporate tax cuts**: He’s floated dropping the rate to 15% for U.S.-made goods, down from 21%, to spur domestic production. No firm cost yet, but a broader 15% rate could reduce revenue by $1-2 trillion over 10 years.
The House GOP’s February 2025 budget resolution allocates $4.5 trillion for tax cuts, aligning with Trump’s push, and proposes a $4 trillion debt ceiling hike to cover it. To offset costs, Republicans are eyeing $1.5-$2 trillion in spending cuts—possibly to Medicaid, SNAP, or other safety nets—plus a 10% universal import tariff (projected to raise $1.9 trillion, though consumers would feel it via higher prices). Trump’s also mentioned closing loopholes like carried interest (a tax break for investment managers) and stadium financing perks, but those might yield only $20-$100 billion combined.
Total cost? Estimates vary. The CRFB suggests Trump’s full wish list could slash revenue by $5-$11 trillion over a decade, pushing debt-to-GDP from 100% today to 132%-149% by 2035 if unoffset. Critics argue tariffs and growth won’t cover it—2017’s cuts added $2.5 trillion to the debt despite rosy projections. Supporters say it’ll juice the economy, pointing to post-2017 wage gains for lower earners.
That’s the gist as of now. Details are still fluid—Congress is haggling over a single bill or phased approach. Want me to drill into any part, like impacts or funding debates?
我的意思是，可能你之前Kara Swisher的采访跟的不够多，不知道她的一贯极左立场。。
当然，她在极左人士里面，表达能力写作能力语言能力都是很强的，毕竟是记者，不至于歇斯底里的乱骂。
但这仅仅是表达方式，她的政治立场一直都在极左。。
我不知道你有没有关注过USAID给legacy media的各种巨款。包括路透社，ny times，politico等等。我就想，为什么美国政府要给私人所有的新闻机构这么多钱？
我不是说Musk没问题，毕竟没人是他肚子里的蛔虫。我想说的是，这错综复杂的钱权关系，让人很难相信新闻机构的中立立场。我最近看了一段musk自己说的，和新闻和民主党政客讲的做个比较。
比如，有说他的tsla和政府签的一个合同，被拿出来说他砍政府的钱，是为了自己的腰包。但，我看到的说，这个合同早在去年十二月就定下了，和现在的一字未改。
这只是一个例子。我总体觉得，带节奏无处不在。
确实是觉得，我们交的税钱，一部分在我们不知道的情况下，用来给我们洗脑。That’s how I feel.
不知道你说的极左观点是什么，但是马一龙与大统领正在实行的Project 2025 毫无疑问是极右而且是radically 极右。radicaly 极右加上最有钱的人加上最有权力的人，加上歇斯底里的辱骂霸凌式的表达，这就是现在的美国政府。 在这样的时代，每一个尊重事实，认真工作的新闻人士都值得最大的尊重。 你可以把对新闻业人士的批判用同样的力度关注一下白宫。 同样的标准再看看那些极右podcast 每天都在制造传播谣言与煽动仇恨。
他们一天发好多帖子攻击Elon， Doge，没有利益驱使不合逻辑，哈哈哈
所以说，你明显对Kara Swisher一贯立场没啥了解么。。
你可以回头找找几年前她的那些时事评论文章，BLM, LGBTQ啥的。。就知道为啥说她是极左了。。
她确实比极右不少人强，毕竟是专业媒体和记者从业那么多年了。。
但专业vs专业, 极左 vs 极右，那她分析能力不如Tucker Carlson
如果你觉得作为客观中立的群众， 看Tucker的节目，对他的言论要打个折扣， 那么对Kara的言论自然也需要打个折扣，不能照单全收
诅咒人家稚儿你过分恶毒了
Tucker Carlson 根本不能算journalist, 只不过在传播谣言煽动仇恨而已。拿他类比也真的是无语了。
那么请问不看Kara 的评价，直接看马一龙自己的言论，又如何?随便翻翻，我觉得Kara 对他的评论已经够客气了，未成年，LOL 任何未成年的孩子这样肆无忌惮的撒谎 霸凌，都得好好批评教育
‘The woke mind virus is either defeated or nothing else matters’
TRUMP的亲生儿子呢？
还有WSJ 对他们其中一个agenda 的报道。或许WSJ 也成了极左了？
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这个报道令人恐怖且愤怒。
肯尼迪总统父子俩，跟一龙父子俩，有什么关系吗？
哈哈哈，我太好奇了。🤣
和左右无关，就是一群有反社会人格的怪物。
没看明白，这报导有啥问题吗？
为啥马斯克又是邪恶了？ 这报导里的Sam Altman是民主党大金主，这你不知道吗？
所以我才说，你对美国媒体的了解度不够
Kara Swisher主要是靠报导财经信息，特别是互联网的新闻出名的。 只不过因为她个人的极左立场，才整天跑政治这边来插花。。
而Tucker Carlson是专门搞政治分析出身的。。 20多年前，我就看过他在CNN上的政论节目cross-fire
在政治分析这个话题上，吊打Kara 好几条街无压力。。
如果你觉得Tucker因为他个人右翼立场，所以他的言论需要打个折扣 那么Kara这种并非分析政治出身的人，因为她个人的极左言论，自然更加要打个折扣。。
Kara和马斯克个人恩怨都已经好几年了，远远早于马斯克资助川普竞选。。
希望大家多生孩子，相信多子多福的人是反社会人格？ 特别这报导里还有Sam Altman，民主党大金主，LGBTQ成员。。
你再想想这话背后的逻辑。。。
可能就是照那个2025来
那位不知为什么从中吹变身成马粉
难怪 鸡同鸭讲 说什么极左 上面那段极端且恐怖的是采访的推进 pronatalism 的那对夫妻 且得到马一龙的大力支持 他们有4个五岁以下的孩子还要继续生 男的说女性应该为motherhood sacrifice 女的说男性不需要paternal leave 社会文化导致少子 要改变文化 并且他们还搞什么基因优生学 选择优质基因 那个女的一脸骄傲的说他们有一个胚胎智力优越99.8 percentile 是他们的champion 还有一个镜头 女的背着孩子 墙上挂着AR15 真的是handmaid’s tale 的现实版
lol 这就吹嘘熟悉美国媒体？ 二十多年前我还看过 bill O’reilly 在狐狸台的show 呢 Tucker Carlson 不就是接的他吗 要说所谓政治分析 bill Oreilly 说不定还比Tucker 靠谱点 不过这俩都是吸引眼球的角色而已。journalist 是需要专业素质与行为规范，有个人观点正常，但是个人观点与专业无关。极右propaganda 向来喜欢共沉沦。从混淆个人观点与事实，到攻击专业媒体，到一切都是角度问题，到后真相时代，到谣言统治一切….
任何新闻机构都不是中立的，这是你自己幼稚 狐狸台背后翻开也是一样的，你举个例子全世界哪个新闻机构是中立不受任何资金来源的？
她永远都是站在统治者的立场上说话的，不管对中国还是对美国都一样。说到底就是慕强，成王败寇吧。
Pronatalism 怎么就极端可怕了？ 如果你觉得丁克是可以接受的个人选择，那么有人选择Pronatalism又有啥问题吗？
你要么两个都觉得极端可怕，要么都接受。。
如果你只能接受丁克，但不能接受多子多福， 这本身就代表你的政治立场已经严重偏离中立客观了。。
甚至真要从科学层面上来分析， 那鼓励生育绝对是压倒性的正确，因为生育率太低，人类社会是真的会崩溃的。。
我说了，如果你本身就是极左，那么Kara swisher是你的嘴替，这很正常 就像很多保守人士觉得狐狸台是他们的嘴替 但这时候就别谈啥中立客观的评价了。。这更多是情绪价值